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Britney Spears
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If you have the roster space, hold him for injury handcuff. Nobody will give anything for him currently.
Isn't this completely obvious?
Isn't this completely obvious?
dickey moe
Fingerpicker
Hold him and hope he gets traded.
harryhood
Footballguy
This one is a head scratcher. Care to explain this? Did you watch the game today?
thatguythere
Footballguy
I missed it. Did Felix Jones carry them to victory?
switz
Footballguy
Really? Not sure how anyone could say that after today. Felix was a far better running threat, better blocker, just overall better. There is nothing in Barber's game that makes me think the Cowboys would be better off sticking with him. Sorry, not trying to be a jerk, but today was the first time the Boys running game clicked, and it was due to keeping Jones involved.
harryhood
Footballguy
LOL. No, neither of them did. But I can tell you that the Dallas Cowboys are not going ANYWHERE without Tony Romo. Marion Barber was embarrassing in pass protection today and a team like the Giants, Steelers, Jets, Vikings, Titans, ect will absolutely have a field day if that is the protection they are going to provide him.
switz
Footballguy
People can't really think the Cowboys lost due to anything Jones did, right? I mean, I didn't see him force Romo to throw those INTs, or Witten to drop those passes. The Cowboys scored 27 points, tied for their highest point total of the season. The other game the Cowboys won. Of course, the Cowboys couldn't have lost because the defense allowed 34 points, right?The loss had NOTHING to do with which RB saw more carries.
switz
Footballguy
Guess you didn't read the OP, I don't think the thread was hijacked. Every comment is directly related to the OP.
harryhood
Footballguy
Until further developments with a Felix injury or benching, I would think 60/TD is the best you could expect from Barber, week in and week out. And that is his ceiling. Bye week fill-in at best.
candymanvandyfan
Footballguy
Here's what the Cowboys should do: Trade Choice, Barber and Martellus Bennett for some picks. Then use those picks on offensive linemen and secondary help.
Get what you can for them.
Get what you can for them.
Ketamine Dreams
Footballguy
I'm probably dropping him in a redraft. What are you guys thinking about him in a dynasty?
RenegadeGM
Footballguy
I think your only shot is to see if the Felix Jones owner wants him for something for insurance... maybe you get a bye-week fill in elsewhere? A useful defense? A handcuff to one of your own RBs?
Mr. Know-It-All
Footballguy
Correct answer. Earlier in the year I was trying to trade FOR Felix Jones because I had Barber. Now I am trying to trade Barber to the Jones owner but he wants no part of him.Now I am offering him for bye week backups at DL or LB.
thriftyrocker
Footballguy
Dropped him last week to get Brandon Tate in a 10/23 dynasty league. Was going to drop either him or Blount - not sure I made the right choice.
5-ish Finkle
Footballguy
He still has Philly, Arizona, Detroit, Indianapolis and the Saints on his docket. Jacksonville and Washington are on there as well, and neither are exactly a prize vs. the run either. His only really tough matchups left, on paper, are Green Bay(and they're down to their 44th string LB at this point), and Minnesota. Giants could be too any given week, but you never know with them.
I wouldn't be cutting the guy outright unless injuries are forcing your hand. It's not like Felix Jones has ever proven to be a pillar of health. Seems like a lot of folks are acting like there's zero chance Barber ever sees meaningful touches again. I'm not buying that....yet.
If I couldn't deal him, I'd hold. Hell, based on this thread I may even be convinced to buy him. Apparently, I could get him for a pack of used condoms right now. As an end of the bench type RB, with that schedule, why not?
I wouldn't be cutting the guy outright unless injuries are forcing your hand. It's not like Felix Jones has ever proven to be a pillar of health. Seems like a lot of folks are acting like there's zero chance Barber ever sees meaningful touches again. I'm not buying that....yet.
If I couldn't deal him, I'd hold. Hell, based on this thread I may even be convinced to buy him. Apparently, I could get him for a pack of used condoms right now. As an end of the bench type RB, with that schedule, why not?
thecardiackid
Footballguy
i bet it felt really good to finally be able to type that.switz said:
switz
Footballguy
i bet it felt really good to finally be able to type that.switz said:
Clifford
Footballguy
This. Deadline is October 19 so that's just one more week on my bench.
CravenM
Footballguy
Dallas has an embarrassment of riches at RB - Reminds me of a fellow owner who has both Peyton Manning and Aaron Rodgers (12 team dynasty) who doesn't know how to trade one away for a better RB.
I've got MB3 and I think he's strong, fast, talented and simply stuck behind Felix Jones. You don't sell players when their value is down so I'm just going to hold on to him. I'm not wishing for an injury to FJ but I think MB3 has always done very well when he's the featured RB at Dallas. He's also a very mature professional who doesn't get into trouble and seems to always be healthy - that should spell a relatively long career.
Redraft wise, he's not worth much right now.
I've got MB3 and I think he's strong, fast, talented and simply stuck behind Felix Jones. You don't sell players when their value is down so I'm just going to hold on to him. I'm not wishing for an injury to FJ but I think MB3 has always done very well when he's the featured RB at Dallas. He's also a very mature professional who doesn't get into trouble and seems to always be healthy - that should spell a relatively long career.
Redraft wise, he's not worth much right now.
buck naked
Footballguy
Hold, but not because of the trading deadline. It is far more likely Jones gets hurt based on his history.
creeps1313
Footballguy
AmI the only person that remembers a first and goal from the three that consisted of a Felix run for 1 yard....Felix run for -1 yard...Felix catch for no yards....final result...FG? Hopefully Dallas will see that inside the 10 they need to use Barber...
the spanker
Footballguy
thecardiackid
Footballguy
re: your well documented felixi bet it felt really good to finally be able to type that.switz said:
the stars are finally aligning. 
I Just don't understand, why Dallas would say that there going to feature F Jones last week then actually do it, I thought it was smoke screen... but i guess they really are that dumb to give out a game plain like that. Also just goes to show that Wade has no power to Jones, don't even know why Jones doesn't just hit the sidelines with a headset and call the plays too instead of using a puppet. Felix is the better back in between then 20 because of his big play ability but Jones did get stuffed at the GL, I think if they used these backs like they did with Julius jones in between the 20s and barber as the red zone they would be more effective.
Wolfpacker
Footballguy
I remember this happening to MBIII as well. Maybe its not the RB.creeps1313 said:
Tenacious
Footballguy
Both good postings...
Just what I was goingto type. Personally I think Choice is better than Barber and Felix.
switz
Footballguy
BTW, here's the actual chain of eventsit's not like Jones got stuffed on three consecutive tries from the one. The false start was the issue on that drive.
In a 16-teamer with the best WW RBs being Rashad Jennings, Goodson, Reece, Sellers and JHester, I'm forced to hold I think. I'm not sure I get what's going on. Jones looked decent last week, but he definitely seemed fatter and much less explosive than last year. I can't see him being the more than a low-end RB2 going forward. Maybe he's lost a little of his edge, but MBIII still looks mostly like MBIII to me.
Dallas has 1 rushing TD so far through 4 games after finishing with 14, 12 and 14 the last 3 years. In addition to the fact that *I* think Felix will be unable to stay healthy with more than 10 carries/gm, I have to think the 'Boys end up with 10-12 rushing scores this year and MBIII ends up with at least half of those. Even if he's getting 30-40 yds and a TD, he's got value as a flex with upside, tho that's obviously been a stretch to this point.
On top of that, as nice as the big passing #s are, they aren't translating to wins, so I have to wonder if they won't be forced to switch to a more ground-oriented attack at some point ( soon ), if only because the aerial pyrotechnics aren't working for whatever reason.
That said, one would be crazy to pay anything for him at this point. I think he's a drop in 10-team and shallow 12-teamers, but other than that I think we have to wait.
Dallas has 1 rushing TD so far through 4 games after finishing with 14, 12 and 14 the last 3 years. In addition to the fact that *I* think Felix will be unable to stay healthy with more than 10 carries/gm, I have to think the 'Boys end up with 10-12 rushing scores this year and MBIII ends up with at least half of those. Even if he's getting 30-40 yds and a TD, he's got value as a flex with upside, tho that's obviously been a stretch to this point.
On top of that, as nice as the big passing #s are, they aren't translating to wins, so I have to wonder if they won't be forced to switch to a more ground-oriented attack at some point ( soon ), if only because the aerial pyrotechnics aren't working for whatever reason.
That said, one would be crazy to pay anything for him at this point. I think he's a drop in 10-team and shallow 12-teamers, but other than that I think we have to wait.
switz
Footballguy
Really?Jones this year
Jones last year
Jones at Arkansas
Can anyone really say he looks "fatter"? He averaged over 6 YPC last week, there's no way he's "slower" - this nonsense has to stop.
As for MBIII looking like MBIII - only if you mean the MBIII that was playing with a torn quad last year at the end... this year's MBIII still looks like that.
I'm not trying to bash on Barber or be a Felix-fanboy, or whatever - as you guys will accuse me of....
There's just no logic in saying Felix looks fat and slow and MBII looks great. NOTHING supports that conclusion.
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Well, I have no empirical data to back it up, and I'm not a Cowboys fan, so I don't watch every game. I just know that for the last couple years it seems like Felix was 2 steps quicker than anyone on the field, almost CJ2K-quick. 6 ypc practically meant he busted 6-8 yards on every carry. Maybe he was just so fast I couldn't see how big he was.
He had some nice runs last weekend, but I saw a lot zeroes, 2s and 3s in his play-by-play, also. He just looks slower to me. I've read elsewhere that he packed on some pounds, but again, no data to back that up.As for MBIII, all I know is that up until last week's game, the experts were all saying "the Cowboys need to run more, Barber still looks like Barber banging away inside, running with toughness and passion, blah, blah, blah". 6 carries, 17 yards and 3 days later he's "worn down and slow" and not worth a roster spot. It seems a little extreme to be packing this guy away in mothballs, just yet. I need to give him another couple weeks, not that I have huge hopes against MINN and NYG.redskins08
Footballguy
Seems silly to drop Barber for guys like Blount and Snelling...
Topes
Footballguy
I'm in a leagus that allows an owner to start a max of 2 RB. (There's a flex spot, but only one RB slot, so pretty much everybody goes 2 RB.)In such a league, I'm finding it difficult to hold onto Barber.Obviously, the answer to "What to do with Marion Barber?" depends on league depth and team roster depth/composition. How likely is it he will ever start, given the team's depth?For me, I'm finding it pretty unlikely he'll start for me. But possible. Might still like to use his slot on another upside player, rather than Barber. I also have Snelling. I like Snelling near the end of my bench more than I do Barber, as Snelling may be a UFA next season (5-keeper league), and reminds me of Turner. I probably wouldn't drop Barber to grab Shelling off the wire. Both are on my team. I own Chris Johnson, and do not own Michael Turner. Though not a handcuff fan (preferring to rely on my bench, when necessary), I'm starting to feel it'd be a real good idea to roster Ringer. (Thinking out loud.) But am wrestlying with whether to jettison Barber or Snelling to grab him.As I said, the answer to "What to do with Marion Barber?" depends on league depth and team roster depth/composition. How likely is it he will ever start, given the team's depth?Though any of us could come up with a BUY/HOLD/SELL on a player, it's little more than an upgrade or downgrade, and is often made in ignorance of the OP's situation.More generally, as a former Barber fan (football, not fantasy), the guy is really bumming me out to watch. What happened?
Breesisdaman
Footballguy
I am dropping Barber tonight on waivers in my 12 man league for one of the following in order:
Felix Jones (There because I dropped him last week for Fred Jackson) oof!
Beanie Wells
Kenny Britt
Michael Crabtree
Michael Bush
hopefully Jerry Jones doesnt screw around and make Barber the lead back next week and make me live to regret it yet again.
Felix Jones (There because I dropped him last week for Fred Jackson) oof!
Beanie Wells
Kenny Britt
Michael Crabtree
Michael Bush
hopefully Jerry Jones doesnt screw around and make Barber the lead back next week and make me live to regret it yet again.
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