Meach is a Charger (1 Viewer)

[Monkeyface Prickleback]

His name is MEACH, fool.

Meachem hasn't done anything to earn a nickname or shortened name.

 

[Nero]

After seeing some the contracts offered to WR3 candidates, I guess Meachem's contract is ok. Someone said Meachem has good hands. He does not, they are ok at best. He is definitely more likely to get two steps beyond the defense than would VJax, but he is no where near him in jump ball situations. With the increase in targets, you can expect his catch% to drop to the norm or lower(56%). Even though he has decent size, he has never been particularly good in the red zone. So if he gets all of Jackson's targets, I'd expect 62 950 7.

 

[cstu]

After seeing some the contracts offered to WR3 candidates, I guess Meachem's contract is ok. Someone said Meachem has good hands. He does not, they are ok at best. He is definitely more likely to get two steps beyond the defense than would VJax, but he is no where near him in jump ball situations. With the increase in targets, you can expect his catch% to drop to the norm or lower(56%). Even though he has decent size, he has never been particularly good in the red zone. So if he gets all of Jackson's targets, I'd expect 62 950 7.

I don't think he gets close to VJax's targets and a sub-60 catch season won't surprise me.

 

[az_prof]

After seeing some the contracts offered to WR3 candidates, I guess Meachem's contract is ok. Someone said Meachem has good hands. He does not, they are ok at best. He is definitely more likely to get two steps beyond the defense than would VJax, but he is no where near him in jump ball situations. With the increase in targets, you can expect his catch% to drop to the norm or lower(56%). Even though he has decent size, he has never been particularly good in the red zone. So if he gets all of Jackson's targets, I'd expect 62 950 7.

I am curious what evidence you base this claim on?Here is what I base my claim that he has goods upon. Catch % over the past several years.

2011: 66%

2010: 67%

2009: 70%

Over that same period of time:

Colston has averaged: 73; 65; 66

Colston's 73% in 2011 was the highest of any WR. Meachen's 66% was 21st, right in there with AJ and Maclin.

In 2010, Meachem's 67% was 10th best. In 2009 Meachen's 70% was 7th best in NFL.

Now, you could say catch% is not the best metric for "hands." There ARE other variables. But when a guy consistently puts up 65 plus % while running long routes, which typically generate lower catch percentages, I would say he is better than average. Every player will drop some now and then but I believe this statisical evidence shows that Meachem has above average catching ability.

Incidentally, Vincent Brown's catch % last season was 47%, give you some relative context. he caught 19 passes on 40 attempts.

 

[Nero]

I live in New Orleans. I watch every game. I've seen him fight the enough to know that he does not have good hands.

 

[Hoosier16]

Pro Football Focus tracks drop percentage.. Out of approximately 90-100 WRs each year, here are Meachem's stats for the last 3 years (drop % - rank):

2009: 0.00% - 1st

2010: 8.33% - 39th

2011: 9.09% - 45th

For 3 years, his total drop rate is 5.84%, which would rank him in the top 3rd. For comparison, Colston was 7.90%, VJ was 7.28%, and Calvin was 6.98%.

 

[Nero]

<br />Pro Football Focus tracks drop percentage.. Out of approximately 90-100 WRs each year, here are Meachem's stats for the last 3 years (drop % - rank):<br /><br />2009: 0.00% - 1st<br />2010: 8.33% - 39th<br />2011: 9.09% - 45th<br /><br />For 3 years, his total drop rate is 5.84%, which would rank him in the top 3rd. For comparison, Colston was 7.90%, VJ was 7.28%, and Calvin was 6.98%.<br />

;Sooooooo.....you posted that Meachem is 42nd over the past two years to ....nvm. I don't need the stats to tell me what I see.

 

[cstu]

Pro Football Focus tracks drop percentage.. Out of approximately 90-100 WRs each year, here are Meachem's stats for the last 3 years (drop % - rank):2009: 0.00% - 1st2010: 8.33% - 39th2011: 9.09% - 45thFor 3 years, his total drop rate is 5.84%, which would rank him in the top 3rd. For comparison, Colston was 7.90%, VJ was 7.28%, and Calvin was 6.98%.

Call me skeptical, but we're expected to believe Meachem didn't drop a pass in 2009?

 

[cstu]

Incidentally, Vincent Brown's catch % last season was 47%, give you some relative context. he caught 19 passes on 40 attempts.

What was Meachem catch percentage his rookie year?

 

[KellysHeroes]

after reading this thread I'm going to throw some offers out for the kid

 

[Hoosier16]

Pro Football Focus tracks drop percentage.. Out of approximately 90-100 WRs each year, here are Meachem's stats for the last 3 years (drop % - rank):2009: 0.00% - 1st2010: 8.33% - 39th2011: 9.09% - 45thFor 3 years, his total drop rate is 5.84%, which would rank him in the top 3rd. For comparison, Colston was 7.90%, VJ was 7.28%, and Calvin was 6.98%.

Call me skeptical, but we're expected to believe Meachem didn't drop a pass in 2009?

Why would you expect them to be wrong?

 

[inzanitee]

Incidentally, Vincent Brown's catch % last season was 47%, give you some relative context. he caught 19 passes on 40 attempts.

What was Meachem catch percentage his rookie year?

0 catches for 0 yds and 0 TDs I believe.

 

[cstu]

Pro Football Focus tracks drop percentage.. Out of approximately 90-100 WRs each year, here are Meachem's stats for the last 3 years (drop % - rank):2009: 0.00% - 1st2010: 8.33% - 39th2011: 9.09% - 45thFor 3 years, his total drop rate is 5.84%, which would rank him in the top 3rd. For comparison, Colston was 7.90%, VJ was 7.28%, and Calvin was 6.98%.

Call me skeptical, but we're expected to believe Meachem didn't drop a pass in 2009?

Why would you expect them to be wrong?

I'm just surprised since he's always had an issue dropping passes (going back to Tenn).

 

[cstu]

I know A.J. Smith is a guru and all, but Meach and Jared Gaither?

 

[Doug B]

Why did everyone think Meachem was so good? He's got some skills, but will never carry a receiving corps.

 

[cstu]

Why did everyone think Meachem was so good? He's got some skills, but will never carry a receiving corps.

I never expected to be their #1 but I thought he was good enough to be a deep threat. He had one good game against a bad Saints defense but otherwise was absolutely horrible.

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

ESPN.com's Bill Williamson "highly doubts" the Chargers could find a trade partner for Robert Meachem.
Meachem's $5 million salary is fully guaranteed, making him impossible to trade and unlikely to be cut. Meachem is getting a fresh start under the Bolts' new braintrust, but the fact that he couldn't make himself a factor as a deep threat under vertically-obsessed former coach Norval Turner bodes very poorly for his 2013. Meachem is entirely off the fantasy radar.


Source: ESPN.com

 

[Beerguzzler]

I hope Meachum blows up in the preseason so some sucker of a team takes him off our books.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

The Chargers could probably trade Meachem and a third in return for a sixth, but I wouldn't want to do that.

The Chargers can cut him in 2014. Until then, at least two of Alexander, Floyd, Brown, Allen, and Royal are likely to be injured at any given time, so Meachem may actually prove useful.

 

[Sweet Love]

The Chargers could probably trade Meachem and a third in return for a sixth, but I wouldn't want to do that.

The Chargers can cut him in 2014. Until then, at least two of Alexander, Floyd, Brown, Allen, and Royal are likely to be injured at any given time, so Meachem may actually prove useful.

Has two of that group ever been healthy at the same time?? Good call, it is like the finalist list of "Most Likely to be Injured" in the NFL at WR.

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

CBS Sports' Clark Judge reports that a source close to the Chargers is convinced that Robert Meachem "won't be a factor" this season.
Meachem would almost certainly be released if not for his guaranteed $5 million salary. Barring an unexpected trade, the Chargers will be forced to carry him as their No. 5 receiver.


Source: CBSSports.com

 

[cstu]

What would you give in a rookie pick for him? Late 2nd?

I'd give up an early 2nd for Meachem at this point.

I can't imagine any Meachem owner would take that. An early second round pick is going to get you a WR who is either a second or third rounc pick. The odds that they will ever be the featured WR in an offense, as Meachem is likely to be this coming season, is not very good. At a minimum, I would think it would take a middle first round pick. Personally, I think he is going to produce as a WR2, and so I can't imagine trading him for less than a 1.5. But if the Meachem owner doesn't believe in him, you might get him for 1.8-1.10.

Meachem has been way too inconsistent to invest anything other than a 2nd rd pick on in dynasty leagues. Why do you think he all of a sudden is going to be good when he just came from one of the best offenses in the league and couldn't put it together?No way in hell I trade a 1st rd rookie pick on that guy.

You might want to read the whole thread. Why will he be at a minimum a WR3 and quite possibly a WR2?1) He was just paid to be a WR1 for SD. He stands to gets the looks the previous WR1 got. If you do the math, he could post 80/1200/10 very easily.

2) The NO offense is potent but it is designed to spread the ball around to as many as 5 or 6 receivers. Thus, he will have a lot more targets. Rivers is nearly as good a QB as Brees so no big drop off there.

3) He has done well with his targets in the past, both in terms of catch % and in terms of TDs and yardage.

4) He has sub 4.4 speed and good height and size.

5) He has good hands.

6) Former first round pick who was never given the chance to be a featured, starting WR and now is getting it. Opportunity equals gold.

Except that he did have that chance when Colston and Moore were injured and didn't do anything to show that he deserves more playing time. The Saints also chose to re-sign Lance Moore and let Meachem walk rather than pay Meachem a $1M more a season. Meachem fits very well into the Chargers system and I think he'll help the team more than fantasy players.

Not even that.

 

[Shutout]

Meach will put up career numbers in SD this year, nice move for Bolts.

That shouldn't be to hard to dverall i can see people being happy about it but I think they may be kidding themselves if they think he will bring to the table what VJAX did.

There is more than one comment here about how "VJAX was an average WR playing with a great QB". I think the truth may be more on the other side. Rivers, and I love him, but I think its become more and more obvious that he's not in that same group of upper echelon QBs.

he has had the luxury of playing with LT, Gates, and at times a defense that can really heat things up. And then you have a 6'5" WR that can run like VJAX does. You can't teach speed and height. So, you have a very good QB that has played with two HOF'ers and a guy that is quite a physical matchup problem. After watching the Chargers pretty closely all last season, I am more of the opinion that he grossly under utilized VJAX.

Yes, I know VJAX gets the negative attention sometimes but there were a lot of plays in games where it seemed like Rivers refused to look at VJAX or take advantage of him near the goal line. And overall it is really hard to deny what VJAX CAN DO at times.

Some people point to that and say that is on VJAX; being focussed, but its been pretty obvious that when Rivers has been willing to lock on to VJAX (like Brees and Brady does Graham and Gronk, or Cutler used to do Marshall, etc), that he puts up MONSTER games. If you look at the games, there were a good handful when VJAX was targeted 3-6 times a game, and a couple of those "targets" each game were the very low percentage 50 yard chucks in situations at the end. In short, he wasn't really used like a veteran mismatch receiver. 115 targets on the year is in the AJ Green range and 45 or so less than the Calvins and Roddy's. For a team that we think of as a team that airs it out all day, 115 isn't much when you think of a team like the Bengals that run it a lot can get 115 targets to a rookie (with a rookie QB). But then when you look at the games when VJAX does get 8-9 targets and you see the dominant games. I don't think Tampa was the place to go to increase his targets but I do think that he is a very good player that, if his team will throw the ball to him and treat him like a #1, will do fine. For that same reason, I think Meachum will be limited much like he was in New Orleans.

I know I'm probably of the minority but I think the Chargers will miss VJAX more than VJAX misses the Chargers.

I think what I said was true a year and a half ago and is still true now.

 

[lod01]

What I said about this bum was true when he came out and is still true. When he said he was 'cashing in' by leaving early for the NFL, that response caused me to cross his name off my dynasty draft board. I predicted a massive bust. He didn't disappoint.

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

Love reading the Bob threads when he signed with the Bolts. Truly astonishing people thought he'd be a threat as a #1 WR.

 

[Beerguzzler]

I really wish he blows up in preseason so some sucker team will accept him.

 

[cstu]

(Rotoworld) A person familiar with Robert Meachem's situation told the Union-Tribune San Diego that Meachem's body has "broken down" and isn't what it once was. Analysis: Meachem is only 28 years old. He battled a hamstring injury for a brief period last year and had a knee scope in the 2012 offseason, but otherwise he's stayed off the shelf in recent seasons. Columnist Kevin Acee says Meachem can no longer separate, runs bad routes, has unreliable hands, and "has no business being on the field." Acee believes the Chargers should cut Meachem.