Meachem more confident and determined (1 Viewer)

[az_prof]

Saints | Meachem showing more confidence and determination Published Sun May 18 7:03:00 p.m. ET 2008

(KFFL) Mike Triplett, of the New Orleans Times-Picayune, reports New Orleans Saints WR Robert Meachem has been earning rave reviews for his progress the past few months. Meachem is healthy after a knee injury slowed him down for much of the 2007 season. He is also showing more confident determination.

While you have to take offseason and mini-camp news with a grain of salt, this is certainly better news than we heard last year in the summer about Meachem.

 

[Michael Fox Fan]

Saints | Meachem showing more confidence and determination Published Sun May 18 7:03:00 p.m. ET 2008 (KFFL) Mike Triplett, of the New Orleans Times-Picayune, reports New Orleans Saints WR Robert Meachem has been earning rave reviews for his progress the past few months. Meachem is healthy after a knee injury slowed him down for much of the 2007 season. He is also showing more confident determination. While you have to take offseason and mini-camp news with a grain of salt, this is certainly better news than we heard last year in the summer about Meachem.

What is "confident determination"?

 

[Cookiemonster]

Saints | Meachem showing more confidence and determination Published Sun May 18 7:03:00 p.m. ET 2008 (KFFL) Mike Triplett, of the New Orleans Times-Picayune, reports New Orleans Saints WR Robert Meachem has been earning rave reviews for his progress the past few months. Meachem is healthy after a knee injury slowed him down for much of the 2007 season. He is also showing more confident determination. While you have to take offseason and mini-camp news with a grain of salt, this is certainly better news than we heard last year in the summer about Meachem.

What is "confident determination"?

"The Eye of the Tiger, man."

 

[{Syrus}]

What is "confident determination"?

Like Marion Barber within 15 yards of the goaline.

 

[motor guy]

Saints | Meachem showing more confidence and determination Published Sun May 18 7:03:00 p.m. ET 2008

(KFFL) Mike Triplett, of the New Orleans Times-Picayune, reports New Orleans Saints WR Robert Meachem has been earning rave reviews for his progress the past few months. Meachem is healthy after a knee injury slowed him down for much of the 2007 season. He is also showing more confident determination.

While you have to take offseason and mini-camp news with a grain of salt, this is certainly better news than we heard last year in the summer about Meachem.

What is "confident determination"?

An awkward paraphrase. Triplett reported that Meachem is "more confident and determined" in today's Times Picayune.http://www.nola.com/saints/t-p/index.ssf?/....xml&coll=1

 

[msommer]

I thought the next word would be appetite

 

[King of the Jungle]

This guy still can be had for the cheap in dynasty (I picked him off waivers). Decent talent on a high powered offense is worth the risk IMO.

 

[ATC1]

This guy still can be had for the cheap in dynasty (I picked him off waivers). Decent talent on a high powered offense is worth the risk IMO.

And there is not much competition at all. D. PattenT. CopperD. HendersonL. MooreA. Allison (I think he will make the roster as a rookie project. they can not put this guy on PS.)I actually think Henderson is the odd man out to be cut.

 

[Bri]

This guy still can be had for the cheap in dynasty (I picked him off waivers). Decent talent on a high powered offense is worth the risk IMO.

And there is not much competition at all. D. PattenT. CopperD. HendersonL. MooreA. Allison (I think he will make the roster as a rookie project. they can not put this guy on PS.)I actually think Henderson is the odd man out to be cut.

Allison the Vikings guy last year? That name's not ringing a bellI'd guess when push comes to shove Devery edges out CopperAs for Meachem, or any 2nd year guy that did nothing, I want to see some production. I can draft Chad Jackson if all I wanted was hope.

 

[King of the Jungle]

This guy still can be had for the cheap in dynasty (I picked him off waivers). Decent talent on a high powered offense is worth the risk IMO.

And there is not much competition at all.

D. Patten

T. Copper

D. Henderson

L. Moore

A. Allison (I think he will make the roster as a rookie project. they can not put this guy on PS.)

I actually think Henderson is the odd man out to be cut.

Adrian Arrington is what I think you meant, Allison plays for Minny. Good point in regards to the competition.

 

[King of the Jungle]

This guy still can be had for the cheap in dynasty (I picked him off waivers). Decent talent on a high powered offense is worth the risk IMO.

And there is not much competition at all.

D. Patten

T. Copper

D. Henderson

L. Moore

A. Allison (I think he will make the roster as a rookie project. they can not put this guy on PS.)

I actually think Henderson is the odd man out to be cut.

Allison the Vikings guy last year? That name's not ringing a bellI'd guess when push comes to shove Devery edges out Copper

As for Meachem, or any 2nd year guy that did nothing, I want to see some production. I can draft Chad Jackson if all I wanted was hope.

The point is taking a chance on these guys when their value is low. They may never pan out, but once the potential is there the price will not be discounted.

 

[Bri]

As for Meachem, or any 2nd year guy that did nothing, I want to see some production. I can draft Chad Jackson if all I wanted was hope.

The point is taking a chance on these guys when their value is low. They may never pan out, but once the potential is there the price will not be discounted.

I hear ya and I've had my share of Chad Jackson's over the years doing that. I've since shifted to waiting til TC or week 1 of preseason to make a move. I guess maybe if there's a bunch of overwhelming praise for him out of OTAs that would do. Along with this early thinking-what's your sign he's worth a pickup vs being another flop? What are you waiting for til you pick him up?I have Lance Moore sitting deep on my roster because he hustled got something done(if just 2-3 catches a game). I had Stuckey of the Jets on my roster because he was fairly good in preseason and got some nice press. I've waived him but I'm still liking that production rationale vs where they were drafted. I'd love to replace Moore with Meachem, trying to be more practical or patient or somesuch now I guess.

 

[King of the Jungle]

As for Meachem, or any 2nd year guy that did nothing, I want to see some production. I can draft Chad Jackson if all I wanted was hope.

The point is taking a chance on these guys when their value is low. They may never pan out, but once the potential is there the price will not be discounted.

I hear ya and I've had my share of Chad Jackson's over the years doing that. I've since shifted to waiting til TC or week 1 of preseason to make a move. I guess maybe if there's a bunch of overwhelming praise for him out of OTAs that would do. Along with this early thinking-what's your sign he's worth a pickup vs being another flop? What are you waiting for til you pick him up?I have Lance Moore sitting deep on my roster because he hustled got something done(if just 2-3 catches a game). I had Stuckey of the Jets on my roster because he was fairly good in preseason and got some nice press. I've waived him but I'm still liking that production rationale vs where they were drafted. I'd love to replace Moore with Meachem, trying to be more practical or patient or somesuch now I guess.

I think there were multiple reasons why last year was a bad year for Meachem. He came to camp overweight, injured his knee, and never truly grasped the offense. Over the offseason I start by looking for guys who have been overlooked the previous that have talent and positive situations. Meachem made that list. A couple months back I read were he was humbled by his rookie year and sought out David Patten to teach him the ropes on what it takes to become a professional (an extremely mature move by a young man). I immediately picked him up because I had roster space to burn. I am not counting on him for production, but the risk/reward is there. I think those that hesitate and wait until there is overwhelming evidence of good play will miss out on some low cost production for their squads. I would rather pickup too early or gamble by trading while value is low than sitting on the sidelines.

 

[az_prof]

Good news continues to come out of camp about Meachem. While it is fluff it is certainly better than the bad news that was coming out of camp last year. I will be surprised if he doesn't win the third spot coming out of preseason.

Saints continue to rave about Meachem Published Thu May 22 11:47:00 a.m. ET 2008

(Rotoworld) The Saints are continuing to rave about Robert Meachem's offseason progress.

Impact: Meachem reportedly appeared "healthy, fluid and comfortable" running routes at Wednesday's OTA. The 2007 first-round pick is battling Devery Henderson to be New Orleans' third receiver behind David Patten and Marques Colston, although Patten's job isn't guaranteed. This is a positive sign after last offseason's problems, but ultimately it's offseason fluff until he shows something on the field.

 

[EBF]

David Patten is actually a decent WR, but obviously the team has a lot invested in Meachem. He'll be given every opportunity to earn some PT.

 

[jurb26]

Well, here's to hoping this guy turns things around. I just traded for him in one of my dynasty leagues a few days ago.

 

[King of the Jungle]

Well, here's to hoping this guy turns things around. I just traded for him in one of my dynasty leagues a few days ago.

I just grabbed him off waivers...curious on what you paid?Thanks

 

[gianmarco]

Good news continues to come out of camp about Meachem. While it is fluff it is certainly better than the bad news that was coming out of camp last year. I will be surprised if he doesn't win the third second spot coming out of preseason.

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[Afro Samurai]

Good news continues to come out of camp about Meachem. While it is fluff it is certainly better than the bad news that was coming out of camp last year. I will be surprised if he doesn't win the third second spot coming out of preseason.

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I don't know, it's gonna be really hard to beat out Patten as the #2. Meachem would have to prove himself to be really reliable and consistent, something along the lines of Colston's preseason in 06.

 

[cstu]

While Meachem owners are happy to hear any good news, I get a chuckle out of the title because I don't think it's possible for him not to be "more confident and determined" without being sent to a psychiatric facility as clinically depressed..

 

[saintfool]

Good news continues to come out of camp about Meachem. While it is fluff it is certainly better than the bad news that was coming out of camp last year. I will be surprised if he doesn't win the third second spot coming out of preseason.

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I don't know, it's gonna be really hard to beat out Patten as the #2. Meachem would have to prove himself to be really reliable and consistent, something along the lines of Colston's preseason in 06.

Patten has another year on his contract, I think. Henderson, though, is on a 1-year. I think reasonable expectations would be for him to overtake Henderson this year.

 

[jurb26]

Well, here's to hoping this guy turns things around. I just traded for him in one of my dynasty leagues a few days ago.

I just grabbed him off waivers...curious on what you paid?Thanks

# 501 Squad gave up Ainge, Erik NYJ QB;Nelson, Jordy GBP WR; Year 2009 Round 5 Draft Pick from 501 Squad# Snuffs' Solid Rock Snipers gave up Meachem, Robert NOS WR; Year 2009 Round 3 Draft Pick from Snuffs' Solid Rock SnipersIn this league you can start up to 5 WRs if you so choose.

 

[T Bell]

I've gotta be honest, on that TD catch in the preseason game where all of the 3rd string paraplegics on the Cards defense couldn't tackle him, Meachem was not impressing me by displaying any sort of speed or athleticism. He looked big, slow, stiff and unathletic. The name on the back of the jersey said "Meachem", but what I saw was Mike Williams.

 

[EBF]

I've gotta be honest, on that TD catch in the preseason game where all of the 3rd string paraplegics on the Cards defense couldn't tackle him, Meachem was not impressing me by displaying any sort of speed or athleticism. He looked big, slow, stiff and unathletic. The name on the back of the jersey said "Meachem", but what I saw was Mike Williams.

I wouldn't go so far as calling him Mike Williams, but I mostly agree with your general point.

 

[mcintyre1]

I love how he can put up a 4 catch 129 yard 1 TD performance and people are still saying "Eh, he kinda sucks."

You expecting the second coming of Rice or something?

 

[mcintyre1]

I've gotta be honest, on that TD catch in the preseason game where all of the 3rd string paraplegics on the Cards defense couldn't tackle him, Meachem was not impressing me by displaying any sort of speed or athleticism. He looked big, slow, stiff and unathletic. The name on the back of the jersey said "Meachem", but what I saw was Mike Williams.

I don't agree at all. Right after making the catch he showed great speed and athleticism to get away from the defenders and set up his blocks. By the time he got to the last guy, it looked like he decided "Well, I can just stiff-arm this punk to the ground and waltz in." So yeah, he slowed down a bit after he punked the last guy into the ground... big deal.

 

[T Bell]

I love how he can put up a 4 catch 129 yard 1 TD performance and people are still saying "Eh, he kinda sucks." You expecting the second coming of Rice or something?

Why bother watching games when you can get all the important information from the stat line, right?

 

[BigSteelThrill]

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d809d6aa8

1:30 Meech's catch & run.

nice, but not dazzling a all. workman style.

 

[EBF]

I love how he can put up a 4 catch 129 yard 1 TD performance and people are still saying "Eh, he kinda sucks." You expecting the second coming of Rice or something?

I'd say the same thing about Clowney. He had two 70+ yard TD catches and neither one looked exceptional to me. Braylon's short TD was a more freakish play than anything I saw from Clowney or Meachem tonight. That doesn't mean Meachem didn't have a good game, but that long TD catch didn't leave me with a "How did he do that?" sort of vibe like a great play would.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

I love how he can put up a 4 catch 129 yard 1 TD performance and people are still saying "Eh, he kinda sucks." You expecting the second coming of Rice or something?

Yeah, because no one has ever put up a 130/1 type performance and not turned into a total stud Seriously, do people repeatedly beat themselves on the head until they get amnesia during the offseason? Guys put up these types of performances ALL THE TIME and amount to nothing, and that's even in the REGULAR SEASON.I'm not talking about Meachem in particular because I do like him as a player, but to say that a 130/1 performance in a preseason game means you can't say that you still think a guy is not a good player is completely and utterly asinine, otherwise 90% of the players in the league would be putting up pro bowl numbers.

 

[Vicktimized]

Bottom line on Meachem is, he got dominated last year by these same 2nd and third team scrubs. This year, he dominated them in his first shot.

At the very least, it's encouraging.

 

[doubletrouble]

Why bother watching games when you can get all the important information from the stat line, right?

That's really I care about, if he can do this in the regular season he can look like my grand-ma!

 

[Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll]

That's really I care about, if he can do this in the regular season he can look like my grand-ma!

 

[Afro Samurai]

I've gotta be honest, on that TD catch in the preseason game where all of the 3rd string paraplegics on the Cards defense couldn't tackle him, Meachem was not impressing me by displaying any sort of speed or athleticism. He looked big, slow, stiff and unathletic. The name on the back of the jersey said "Meachem", but what I saw was Mike Williams.

Can't agree at all. That was an impressive run, shoddy tackling or not. You make it sound like he's a 280-pound tight end who got lucky because he fell down 7 times on his way to the end zone and nobody was there to touch him.

 

[metoo]

I've gotta be honest, on that TD catch in the preseason game where all of the 3rd string paraplegics on the Cards defense couldn't tackle him, Meachem was not impressing me by displaying any sort of speed or athleticism. He looked big, slow, stiff and unathletic. The name on the back of the jersey said "Meachem", but what I saw was Mike Williams.

Can't agree at all. That was an impressive run, shoddy tackling or not. You make it sound like he's a 280-pound tight end who got lucky because he fell down 7 times on his way to the end zone and nobody was there to touch him.

What I liked more was Bress reaction on the sideline. Something tells me, we are going to see plenty of Meachem this year.

 

[Ted Lange as your Bartender]

His first long catch where he laid out for it around the 5 yard line was pretty impressive

 

[Todem]

Meecham looks for real. He is has all the physical talent. It is obvious. Now let's see him stay healthy which has been a struggle for him thus far and put it together in the regular season.

He had a good game last night....but the real test comes during the regular season. Pre-season can be a place you find some diamonds in the rough. Breaston is an example of that. He was running first team and looked impressive. Meecham IMO will end up playing a significant role in that dynamic Saints offense.

 

[Tanner9919]

I've gotta be honest, on that TD catch in the preseason game where all of the 3rd string paraplegics on the Cards defense couldn't tackle him, Meachem was not impressing me by displaying any sort of speed or athleticism. He looked big, slow, stiff and unathletic. The name on the back of the jersey said "Meachem", but what I saw was Mike Williams.

I agree 100%, I thought the same thing myself. Admittedly, I don't know Meachem from Adam and Eve, didn't watch much of him in college either..but when I saw that highlight of him running across the field last night - against mason laborers and tractor-trailer drivers posing as 3rd string NFL players - I was not impressed at all..Big Mike Williams, v2.0...he looked as if he was running in mud...

 

[blackjack23]

I've gotta be honest, on that TD catch in the preseason game where all of the 3rd string paraplegics on the Cards defense couldn't tackle him, Meachem was not impressing me by displaying any sort of speed or athleticism. He looked big, slow, stiff and unathletic. The name on the back of the jersey said "Meachem", but what I saw was Mike Williams.

That catch that he made on the bomb from Brunell was pretty damn impressive. All I know is a guy who wasnt even on my radar just become an option for a late round flyer.

 

[Afro Samurai]

That catch that he made on the bomb from Brunell was pretty damn impressive. All I know is a guy who wasnt even on my radar just become an option for a late round flyer.

If half the stuff we've been hearing about him in camp is true, he's pretty much a lock to be at least the #3 WR on the passing-est team in the NFL. And likely the #2.

 

[Zigg]

I've gotta be honest, on that TD catch in the preseason game where all of the 3rd string paraplegics on the Cards defense couldn't tackle him, Meachem was not impressing me by displaying any sort of speed or athleticism. He looked big, slow, stiff and unathletic. The name on the back of the jersey said "Meachem", but what I saw was Mike Williams.

I agree 100%, I thought the same thing myself. Admittedly, I don't know Meachem from Adam and Eve, didn't watch much of him in college either..but when I saw that highlight of him running across the field last night - against mason laborers and tractor-trailer drivers posing as 3rd string NFL players - I was not impressed at all..Big Mike Williams, v2.0...he looked as if he was running in mud...

He clearly stumbled turning the corner after abusing a couple DBs. So instead of outrunning the last man, he threw him to the ground like he was an infant. Obviously this dosn't make him a star, but the two posted quotes are ridiculous.

 

[chook]

I've gotta be honest, on that TD catch in the preseason game where all of the 3rd string paraplegics on the Cards defense couldn't tackle him, Meachem was not impressing me by displaying any sort of speed or athleticism. He looked big, slow, stiff and unathletic. The name on the back of the jersey said "Meachem", but what I saw was Mike Williams.

I agree 100%, I thought the same thing myself. Admittedly, I don't know Meachem from Adam and Eve, didn't watch much of him in college either..but when I saw that highlight of him running across the field last night - against mason laborers and tractor-trailer drivers posing as 3rd string NFL players - I was not impressed at all..Big Mike Williams, v2.0...he looked as if he was running in mud...

Both of these posts are complete garbage. His earlier big catch was brilliant and he did everything that was asked of him, no matter who it was against.

 

[gman8343]

He looked great to me. Ready to take a big step forward and seize a starting gig.

 

[T Bell]

I love how he can put up a 4 catch 129 yard 1 TD performance and people are still saying "Eh, he kinda sucks." You expecting the second coming of Rice or something?

I'd say the same thing about Clowney. He had two 70+ yard TD catches and neither one looked exceptional to me. Braylon's short TD was a more freakish play than anything I saw from Clowney or Meachem tonight. That doesn't mean Meachem didn't have a good game, but that long TD catch didn't leave me with a "How did he do that?" sort of vibe like a great play would.

 

[Mister CIA]

I think the operative word when talking about whether or not Meachem will succeed is ... confidence. Last night's game was certainly a big boost to his confidence and we should expect to see him build upon that heading into the regular season. Also, if I remember correctly, the field seemed kind of slick last night, sort of slowing down the speed of the game. Artificial turf might enhance the Meachem viewing experience.

 

[T Bell]

His first long catch where he laid out for it around the 5 yard line was pretty impressive

I certainly thought that was more impressive than the catch and run.

 

[mcintyre1]

I love how he can put up a 4 catch 129 yard 1 TD performance and people are still saying "Eh, he kinda sucks." You expecting the second coming of Rice or something?

Yeah, because no one has ever put up a 130/1 type performance and not turned into a total stud Seriously, do people repeatedly beat themselves on the head until they get amnesia during the offseason? Guys put up these types of performances ALL THE TIME and amount to nothing, and that's even in the REGULAR SEASON.I'm not talking about Meachem in particular because I do like him as a player, but to say that a 130/1 performance in a preseason game means you can't say that you still think a guy is not a good player is completely and utterly asinine, otherwise 90% of the players in the league would be putting up pro bowl numbers.

When did I EVER say he would be a stud? Jesus Christ people... did you all burn an early 1st round rookie pick on him or something? Why all the hate? Here's what we know for now: In Meachem's first pre-season game of his "non-redshirt" year, he put up great numbers and had two very good plays. Sure, he could do jack #### the rest of his life, but he at least shows promise at this point in time.

 

[Bizkiteer]

I've gotta be honest, on that TD catch in the preseason game where all of the 3rd string paraplegics on the Cards defense couldn't tackle him, Meachem was not impressing me by displaying any sort of speed or athleticism. He looked big, slow, stiff and unathletic. The name on the back of the jersey said "Meachem", but what I saw was Mike Williams.

Agree and disagree here. I think what he did earlier one was very impressive in avoiding defenders. He showed that he has vision and some open field ability. I agree in that he looked like he ran out of gas of sorts. In defense of him, he also looked difficult to take down. He didn't blaze down the sidelines, but he took a normal over the middle route and turned it into far more.I think someone put it in the right perspective, these 2nd and 3rd strings were the guys that dominated him last year...it looks like the tables might have turned this year. That within itself is a very good sign for him and the Saints. Of course, it also a nice sign for any of the FF owners that have him too.

 

[Afro Samurai]

I will say that he does look stiff when he runs. But he's also working off a lot of rust and the lingering effects of hip/knee injuries.

He's never going to "look" as quick as a smaller guy but who cares? Colston gets labled as "big and slow" too but you don't see a lot of people catching him from behind.

 

[Bizkiteer]

His first long catch where he laid out for it around the 5 yard line was pretty impressive

It was an awesome catch! Who knew that Brunell could throw it farther than 5 yards, huh?