MFL Position Changes (1 Viewer)

[thatguy]

* SF : Justin Smith from DE to LB - really really stinks.* NYJ: Vernon Gholston from DE to LB - knew it was comingAre these Final?

MFL is making these changes tomorrow. Your league commissioner can always override them if your league chooses to do so.

How do you override the changes?

 

[Rozelle]

* SF : Justin Smith from DE to LB - really really stinks.

* NYJ: Vernon Gholston from DE to LB - knew it was coming

Are these Final?

MFL is making these changes tomorrow. Your league commissioner can always override them if your league chooses to do so.

How do you override the changes?

For CommissionersSetup

Players and Rosters

Change Player Position

select player, then select position you wish to change him to.

click on Change Player Position button to save changes

 

[thatguy]

* SF : Justin Smith from DE to LB - really really stinks.

* NYJ: Vernon Gholston from DE to LB - knew it was coming

Are these Final?

MFL is making these changes tomorrow. Your league commissioner can always override them if your league chooses to do so.

How do you override the changes?

For CommissionersSetup

Players and Rosters

Change Player Position

select player, then select position you wish to change him to.

click on Change Player Position button to save changes

Thanks for the help.

 

[KellysHeroes]

I opened up a support ticket with MFL about Smith. Will report back with any response.

Hi Aaron,Thanks for the feedback. We use Rotoworld.com as our official source for player positions, but you can definitely change him to whatever position your league wants if needed. Just contact your commissioner about doing that if he needs assistance. We don't plan to change player positions during the season -- that is left up to each individual league. Like last year, we update them during the preseason and keep them updated to match the Rotoworold designations for the last couple of weeks until opening day. For guys like this that play multiple positions, we really do strongly recommend that each IDP league determine their own official source and use the Custom Player Position screen as needed. Hopefully that makes sense.I'll go ahead and contact Rotoworld to see if they have anything to add as far as guidance on how/why they have him on their depth charts as a LB. I'll let you know if that results in anything.ThanksMike

:IBTL:maybe Rotoworld will have something to add. I understand why they'd list him at LB, I just think it's premature to change his designation at MFL.

Thanks for the info...

 

[Biabreakable]

Oh, and no move for Terrell Suggs.

I was worried the axe would fall on Suggs.

 

[obxlegends]

Have we won the Justin Smith battle? A look at my roster this morning shows the following...

Edwards, Ray MIN DE - 8 21.01

Smith, Justin SFO DE - 9 11.03 <---- not moved

Smith, Will NOS DE - 9 10.07

Sopoaga, Isaac SFO DE - 9 24.08 <----- MOVED

Tuck, Justin NYG DE - 4 7.03

Bell, Beau CLE LB ® - 5 4 FA

Brooks, Derrick TBB LB - 10 21.03

Davis, Andra CLE LB - 5 FA

Harris, David NYJ LB - 5 3 FA

Lofton, Curtis ATL LB ® - 7 4 FA

Vilma, Jonathan NOS LB - 9 6.06

Williams, DJ DEN LB - 8 1 FA

Willis, Patrick SFO LB - 9 3 FA

Bennett, Fred HOU CB - 8 17.09

Bly, Dre' DEN CB - 8 26.06

Finnegan, Cortland TEN CB - 6 17.03

Bullocks, Josh NOS S - 9 FA

Knight, Sammy NYG S - 4 13.10

Rhodes, Kerry NYJ S - 5 1 FA

Rolle, Antrel ARI S - 7 16.08 <----- MOVED

Williams, Brian JAC S - 7 30.08 <----- MOVED

I know my Commish didn't override the position. Or will the axe still fall later today?

 

[Anthony Borbely]

Justin Smith was not moved in my league either.

 

[KellysHeroes]

Justin Smith was not moved in my league either.

Same.. they must be reviewing it since they got a ton of requests not to.

 

[KellysHeroes]

Have we won the Justin Smith battle? A look at my roster this morning shows the following...

Edwards, Ray MIN DE - 8 21.01

Smith, Justin SFO DE - 9 11.03 <---- not moved

Smith, Will NOS DE - 9 10.07

Sopoaga, Isaac SFO DE - 9 24.08 <----- MOVED

Tuck, Justin NYG DE - 4 7.03

Bell, Beau CLE LB ® - 5 4 FA

Brooks, Derrick TBB LB - 10 21.03

Davis, Andra CLE LB - 5 FA

Harris, David NYJ LB - 5 3 FA

Lofton, Curtis ATL LB ® - 7 4 FA

Vilma, Jonathan NOS LB - 9 6.06

Williams, DJ DEN LB - 8 1 FA

Willis, Patrick SFO LB - 9 3 FA

Bennett, Fred HOU CB - 8 17.09

Bly, Dre' DEN CB - 8 26.06

Finnegan, Cortland TEN CB - 6 17.03

Bullocks, Josh NOS S - 9 FA

Knight, Sammy NYG S - 4 13.10

Rhodes, Kerry NYJ S - 5 1 FA

Rolle, Antrel ARI S - 7 16.08 <----- MOVED

Williams, Brian JAC S - 7 30.08 <----- MOVED

I know my Commish didn't override the position. Or will the axe still fall later today?

JS in the 11th Round.. u must of been flipping when u heard he was going to be changed... nice Line-up

 

[bcr8f]

Justin Smith was not moved in my league either.

Not yet but they said they are updating in stages.

 

[obxlegends]

JS in the 11th Round.. u must of been flipping when u heard he was going to be changed... nice Line-up

I was telling myself I had bye week issues to soften the blow. Has anyone noticed another player on the list not updated as of yet?

 

[treat88]

Here's another answer to a MFL support ticket I submitted about Justin Smith.

Hi,For this particular player, we contacted Rotoworld and they are doing more research, so we didn't implement the position change for Justin Smith at this time.- Mike

 

[lord_helmet]

That Mike guy is awesome. He told me they were adding a 'TBD' designation for certain rookies, to next years wishlist.

 

[obxlegends]

Here's another answer to a MFL support ticket I submitted about Justin Smith.

Hi,For this particular player, we contacted Rotoworld and they are doing more research, so we didn't implement the position change for Justin Smith at this time.- Mike

Good follow up.

 

[Jene Bramel]

Got my and pencil ready. With a little luck here, the Bears will keep it vanilla enough that we'll get an idea of how hybrid the Niners might be this season.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

Smith tally for first drive:

1st and 10: LDE

2nd and 7: ROLB

1st and 10: LDE

2nd and 8: ROLB

3rd and 8: RDT

I think the TD pass on 3rd and 8 was the only time the 49ers were in a nickel package.

 

[UnderRated]

Why would Suggs be a LB on NFL.com and a DE on Rotoworld's depth chart? Where do they get the info?

Same with Justin Smith... LB on Rotoworld but a DE on NFL.com

We use NFL.com's depth chart for our league on August 27th and have to use those positions all year long.

Hmmmmm

I have Suggs and wanna play him at DE... Dang! Any chance it'll change?

 

[Jene Bramel]

Smith tally for first drive:1st and 10: LDE2nd and 7: ROLB1st and 10: LDE2nd and 8: ROLB3rd and 8: RDTI think the TD pass on 3rd and 8 was the only time the 49ers were in a nickel package.

Agreed. Looked an awful lot like the hybrid schemes that Baltimore likes to run. Very strong argument that Smith should stay at end. Also worth noting that Smith did nothing other than occupy a blocker from any of the spots he played.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

Why would Suggs be a LB on NFL.com and a DE on Rotoworld's depth chart? Where do they get the info?

Check the NFL gamebooks at NFL.com for the '08 preseason games.http://www.nfl.com/liveupdate/gamecenter/2...NE_Gamebook.pdf

Thats a 3-4 with Suggs spot (he didnt play) as an OLB.

http://www.nfl.com/liveupdate/gamecenter/2...LT_Gamebook.pdf

Again, thats a 3-4 with Suggs spot (he didnt play) as an OLB.

Now I think common sense was applied.

We can check the game book after week 3.

 

[UnderRated]

If I'm understanding... U r saying that NFL.com gets the info from the gamebook. The ravens are lining up in a 3-4. Is the gamebook just how they start the game?

Why would Rotoworld have him be a DE still with the Depth Chart as a 4-3?

 

[bcr8f]

Oh, and no move for Terrell Suggs.

I was worried the axe would fall on Suggs.

It still may. This was MFL's first round of updates.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

If I'm understanding... U r saying that NFL.com gets the info from the gamebook. The ravens are lining up in a 3-4. Is the gamebook just how they start the game?Why would Rotoworld have him be a DE still with the Depth Chart as a 4-3?

The player page may not be updated next to his name and picture.They usually do that for all players at the start of the regular season.Occasionaly when a new deal/draft/freeagent move is made.And almost all teams play some variations of different defensive packages.Usually what you are playing on each initial 1st&10 over several games, is what you are.I can't really speak on rotoworld listings.

 

[KellysHeroes]

anyone have a total count on Smiths snaps last night?

 

[bcr8f]

anyone have a total count on Smiths snaps last night?

20 not counting handoffs

 

[KellysHeroes]

anyone have a total count on Smiths snaps last night?

20 not counting handoffs

and the positions he played during those snaps? Thanks

 

[Jayrod]

anyone have a total count on Smiths snaps last night?

20 not counting handoffs

and the positions he played during those snaps? Thanks

I'm guessing he was at QB the whole time.

 

[Jene Bramel]

Tracking Justin Smith...

Series 1

1st and 10 -- 4-3 LDE

2nd and 7 -- 3-4 ROLB

1st and 10 -- 4-3 LDE

2nd and 9 -- 3-4 ROLB

3rd and 9 -- 4-1-6 RDT

Series 2

1st and 10 -- 4-3 LDE

1st and 9 -- 4-3 LDE

2nd and 8 -- 4-3 LDE

3rd and 8 -- 4-1-6 RDT

Series 3

1st and 10 -- 4-3 LDE (weak side)

2nd and 6 -- 3-4 ROLB

1st and 10 -- 4-3 LDE

2nd and 7 -- 3-4 LOLB

3rd and 2 -- 4-1-6 RDT

4th and 1 -- 5-3 RE

1st and 2 -- GL LE

1st and 7 -- 4-3 RDE

2nd and 5 -- 4-1-6 RDT

3rd and 7 -- 4-1-6 RDT (NT)

Series 4

1st and 10 -- 4-3 RDE

2nd and 10 -- 4-3 LDE

1st and 10 -- 4-3 RDE

2nd and 3 -- 4-3 RDE

1st and 10 -- 4-3 RDE

1st and 10 -- 3-4 ROLB

2nd and 2 -- 4-3 LDE

1st and 10 -- 4-3 RDE

2nd and 10 -- 4-1-6 RDT

3rd and 3 -- 4-1-6 RDT

Series 5

1st and 10 -- 4-3 RDE

1st and 10 -- 4-3 LDE

2nd and 9 -- 4-3 RDE

3rd and 9 -- 4-1-6 RDT

I'd say that the speculation we made about the Niners becoming a 4-3 defense again after Justin Smith's signing looks pretty good. Five of 23 base defensive snaps as a 3-4 OLB. More than the usual "change-up" 4-3 business, but two straight games of 25% 3-4 OLB (against two totally different offenses) should be enough to keep Smith as a DL on web hosting sites.

 

[Jayrod]

I'd say that the speculation we made about the Niners becoming a 4-3 defense again after Justin Smith's signing looks pretty good. Five of 23 base defensive snaps as a 3-4 OLB. More than the usual "change-up" 4-3 business, but two straight games of 25% 3-4 OLB (against two totally different offenses) should be enough to keep Smith as a DL on web hosting sites.

So Patrick Willis even is a more solid pick since he'll be a MLB 75% of the time?That's just ridiculous.

 

[homer jay]

I'm the commish of 4 leagues these will impact... i also state from day 1; if the Software changes the position... u need to take it up w/ them.

i think you do one thing right, and one thing wrong.you are correct to have a rule in place ahead of time - but having it be "caveat emptor" isn't right and compromises the integrity of the draft process.the correct rule is to say that a player is eligible for that season at the position he is listed at on draft day. if Justin Smith is listed as a DL and drafted as such, then he is a DL.MFL lists the position changes they make so information can be easily verified, and their steps for changing the player position are simple.

 

[Novice2]

I'm the commish of 4 leagues these will impact... i also state from day 1; if the Software changes the position... u need to take it up w/ them.

the correct rule is to say that a player is eligible for that season at the position he is listed at on draft day. if Justin Smith is listed as a DL and drafted as such, then he is a DL.

MFL's positions don't get updated untill late so any players that move to a diff team or has a diff def scheme will not be changed untill this late in 2009 ( unless MFL decides to update it earlier whch they haven't done in the past ) So whatever a position a player is listed @ week 1-16 this season is what the player will be listed @ any draft pre late August 2009.Either way a league handles it doing a lil homework you will know where a player will be playing. Gems for ''listed @ draft DE will play entire season DE'' and avoiding geting burnt going the ''whatever the software lists them'' route.

 

[bonscott]

My league's rule for this is simple: You take the risk drafting these types of guys as their position can change. If the software changes it then it's changed and you'll need to make whatever moves needed to get yourself back in roster requirements. You can of course log a protest for a player's position. I think after one year where this position change was a big mess the whole league voted to just do it this way. Nice and simple and you really have no excuse unless you didn't do your homework.

 

[bcr8f]

My league's rule for this is simple: You take the risk drafting these types of guys as their position can change. If the software changes it then it's changed and you'll need to make whatever moves needed to get yourself back in roster requirements. You can of course log a protest for a player's position. I think after one year where this position change was a big mess the whole league voted to just do it this way. Nice and simple and you really have no excuse unless you didn't do your homework.

Except I was in a league with strict drafting restrictions where you have to have 2 CB's, 3 S, 2 DT's and 3 DE's. When I drafted Jason Allen I ended up with only 1 CB because the league commissioner wouldn't give me a waiver or make the adjustment. He has been a safety since the bye week last season and MFL didn't make the change.It's a very CB friendly league. 1. 40. McGee, Terrence BUF CB 224.02 18.98 12.80 13.40 28.26 B 20.14 14.54 12.28 17.84 13.88 20.72 18.52 11.52 12.72 8.42 2. 66. Clements, Nate SFO CB 203.56 5.50 16.00 11.50 11.00 16.00 B 9.00 13.50 10.00 14.50 20.64 21.50 21.64 13.28 6.00 13.50 3. 74. Bodden, Leigh CLE CB 195.50 10.00 13.50 9.00 19.00 10.00 14.50 B 21.00 16.00 9.00 8.00 17.50 7.00 11.50 12.00 17.50 4. 76. Trufant, Marcus SEA CB 195.50 7.00 11.50 17.00 16.00 10.50 14.00 15.00 B 12.00 5.50 13.50 13.50 9.50 26.50 18.00 6.00 5. 81. Finnegan, Cortland TEN CB 191.94 12.50 15.50 12.50 B 15.50 7.50 13.50 12.00 10.00 10.00 3.50 18.00 13.94 16.00 17.50 14.00

 

[stugnut]

I see that MFL has Bryan Scott still listed at safety even though he was moved to WLB. Rotoworld now has him listed at WLB but it looks like MFL doesn't update player changes during the season. I knew that MFL used Rotoworld as the "offical guide" on player position but I didn't realize that they don't update players during the season. That seems odd.

 

[Ysatnaf_Gnik]

I see that MFL has Bryan Scott still listed at safety even though he was moved to WLB. Rotoworld now has him listed at WLB but it looks like MFL doesn't update player changes during the season. I knew that MFL used Rotoworld as the "offical guide" on player position but I didn't realize that they don't update players during the season. That seems odd.

This is great. As a Scott owner I hope they do not change....he should be great during playoffs!!!