Michael Bush in 2012 (1 Viewer)

[mikel0254]

Detroit?

 

[Raider Nation]

Detroit?

They'll have Leshoure back.

 

[footballguy#1]

Tampa? Are they going to keep rolling the Blount?

 

[Boston]

Bush will be real interesting to watch this offseason...this maybe his only opportunity to earn real good money so following the big contract could be his goal...that being said he's the type of quality RB that could really push a good team that much closer to a title so maybe he goes that route..he probably won't get real big money but he will have his suitors...he's an intriguing RB as he can get the tough yards as well as being active in the passing game...two teams that he could really help are Green Bay (a big time O gets another high quality player) and the Jets (is Shonn Greene really the answer here)...as a Pats fan this guy would be a great fit in Foxboro but my guess is Ridley and Vereen are the focus next year...

 

[mikel0254]

Detroit?

They'll have Leshoure back.

Coming off an Achilles...don't know how comfortable they'll be with Best and Leshoure as their two backs. Too many injuries/concussions with Best, and not a long track record of RB's coming back from Achilles and performing well.

 

[noneother]

Detroit?

They'll have Leshoure back.

Coming off an Achilles...don't know how comfortable they'll be with Best and Leshoure as their two backs. Too many injuries/concussions with Best, and not a long track record of RB's coming back from Achilles and performing well.

This. I know nothing of leshore. Other than I wouldn't want him my all time back in 2012. I don't like the rest in DET either. Find a true number one Ala Bush. Let leshore be #2. Let the rest scramble for 3 or situational.

 

[quickhands]

Why Seattle? Lynch is 2 years younger than Bush and has a better skillset. Can you imagine Bush running behind that terrible O-Line doing any better than Lynch does?

If you consider going down after contact and no push a better skill set than yes, you are correct. Bush routinely pushing piles for 3 or 4 extra yards must suck for Oakland.

Revisit?

Guys....its not now and never has been about age. For NFL rbs its about #of Carries.

 

[Jedimaster21]

Actually you are wrong here. It has been shown time and time again, along with specific study done on footballguys, that total touches mean nothing. Age is everything.

As for going to Seattle, I see no reason that they would sign him. Beast mode is playing great football like the 12th overall pick he was.

 

[hines]

are we still sure he is a legit #1 back? since that Thursday night vs Denver when the Raiders line was just opening truck-sized holes Bush has been awful. he's averaged 3.2 YPC during the last 5 games and is under 4 YPC on the year. he is a good grinder but has little burst and some of the worst open field speed of any back in the NFL. he can play a role but not as the main back if you want a dynamic running game

 

[djmich]

are we still sure he is a legit #1 back? since that Thursday night vs Denver when the Raiders line was just opening truck-sized holes Bush has been awful. he's averaged 3.2 YPC during the last 5 games and is under 4 YPC on the year. he is a good grinder but has little burst and some of the worst open field speed of any back in the NFL. he can play a role but not as the main back if you want a dynamic running game

Depends on what you mean by #1, should he be the lead back on a NFL team for 2 years, yes I think so. He's a workhorse and can catch, but I don't think he's good enough to create his own yards. If the team gives, he will take it and then some. I don't think it's coincidence that his ypc have gone down as the entire WR corps has been banged up and the passing game has suffered.

 

[squistion]

Actually you are wrong here. It has been shown time and time again, along with specific study done on footballguys, that total touches mean nothing. Age is everything.

As for going to Seattle, I see no reason that they would sign him. Beast mode is playing great football like the 12th overall pick he was.

Actually it isn't.RBs do tend to fall off a cliff around the time they approach and then hit the age of 30, but that is not set in stone as you seem to imply. As with every rule, there are exceptions - Fred Jackson did well the first 10 weeks of the season until he was injured (even though he had turned the tender age of 30 in February). And there are other examples of RBs who remained productive into their early 30s (not many but some others have also defied the age is everything meme).

 

[fantasizing]

Given DMac's injury history, I doubt the Raiders would do part with Bush.

Bush is good for those 1-yard plunges, and they'll probably want that role to continue to avoid exposing DMac to unncessary injury.

 

[biju]

Given DMac's injury history, I doubt the Raiders would do part with Bush.Bush is good for those 1-yard plunges, and they'll probably want that role to continue to avoid exposing DMac to unncessary injury.

They aren't exactly going to have a choice as he's a UFA after this season. They can bid for him, but this is this guy's last chance at a payday so I suspect he'll take the highest bidder and/or the most guaranteed money in the offseason.I've got him in a dynasty and I pretty much agree that he's unlikely to have anything more than RB2 value and the news of a full time gig might be enough to sell on and get good value. Hopefully he goes somewhere with a promising O-line and I can sell high.

 

[Chaka]

I have watched him play a lot this season and while I was a big fan of his going into this season he sure goes down easy for a 245lb back. He gets turned away in short yardage situations with regularity too.

 

[da_budman]

I think Bush is going to be one of the most interesting players to track this offseason. He has potential to be a very good lead back for a team. From what I've seen, I think he could easily be a 3 down back. But that doesn't mean a team has to have a dire need a RB to sign him. These days, teams pay top dollar for a RBBC.

Anyhow, these are the landing spots I see as most likely:

Oakland - he's bound to have grown some roots here. He's been here for a long time. Plus, the team actually looks capable this year. Maybe he has bought into the team and believe he can win a championship here. But I'm sure he doesn't like playing second fiddle. Al Davis is playing with Monopoly money, though, so I won't be surprised if he makes Bush an offer he can't refuse.

Denver - it looks like Moreno is on his way out and McGahee hasn't exactly been lighting it up. It seems to me like Bush would be a good John Fox type of RB. Stephen Davis-esque.

Cincy - Benson is not the answer and they don't seem to like Scott for whatever reason. They will be looking to upgrade the position this offseason and Bush is a great candidate.

Dallas - Felix is always hurt. Choice just hasn't been able to step up. Murray is a 3rd down back. They will be in the market for a starter.

Detroit - Bush would fill the LeShoure role well and players just don't come back well from achilles injuries.

Atlanta - They can't go into 2012 planning to lean on Turner again. I'm not saying he's done, but that team is in win now mode and it would be foolish to put all their eggs in the Turner basket.

St.Louis - Bush would fill in nicely for SJax. I love watching SJax play, but they've got to be considering hedging their bets there with all his mileage and injuries.

49ers - I know Gore just got a decent contract, but if he can't finish this season then they have to start looking for a replacement or at least a tandem piece. Also depends on how they feel about Hunter/Dixon. Plus, it has to be geographically appealing to Bush if he enjoys the bay area.

These are fine teams and all but Bush wants to be a lead back.Unless something happens in Oakland with Mcfadden or he cant find a spot where he will be the starter he will not be resigning there. Even then I dont see him staying there.

St Louis, Atlanta, again a backup. Maybe their RB's are old and near the end of their careers but Bush wont go there unless he is the starter.

Dallas, Im pretty sure with what murray has done calling him a 3rd down Back is a mistake. Either way with murray/felix I dont see him going there.

SF not seeing it again a crowded backfield. I think they like what they have there.

That leaves Cincy/Seattle/detroit (if best doesnt come back) on your list. Those are possibilities.

One team I would add..... Cleveland. If they decide not to resign Hillis I would think Bush would fit in real nicey there.

Oh, sweet, you guys are tight and he told you that? Great insider information.

He signed a 1 year deal last year during the lockout for this reason...he wants to be a lead back somewhere but this offseason was not the year to change teams with all the uncertainty surrounding it. If he wanted to be a career backup, he would have signed for longer.Maybe my bias is coming into play, but I think DET will really go after him. He's everything we need. We have to be the worst running team in the league (or close to it). He's Turner with better hands. Put him in there on 1st and 2nd, and throw Best in on 3rds and special packages. We can't rely on the backs on our roster right now, and we can't afford to draft another (we'll need to spend at least one early pick on OL and one either LB or CB).

Not tight but yeah we have connections. Not saying it will happen but yes he told me that.

 

[RavenLunatic]

Started like gangbusters and then looked mediocre over the last several weeks.

Over rated FA or a value play for 2012?

Obviously his landing spot will determine alot but I think he will end up a solid RB2 next year. His receiving skills keep him relevant even when the running yards drop off. If he finds the end zone with regularity then he could end up top 10 again.

 

[stbugs]

are we still sure he is a legit #1 back? since that Thursday night vs Denver when the Raiders line was just opening truck-sized holes Bush has been awful. he's averaged 3.2 YPC during the last 5 games and is under 4 YPC on the year. he is a good grinder but has little burst and some of the worst open field speed of any back in the NFL. he can play a role but not as the main back if you want a dynamic running game

He started out well, but man he came down to earth. I saw someone above mention Detroit and how Bush was a good receiver. If I were Detroit, I would rather have Kevin Smith. He seemed dynamic in the games I watched, even when his ankle was tweaked and is a very good receiver. If Best comes back or LeShoure and with many other decent backups available, I wouldn't spend any money on Bush if I am Detroit. Lot's more to fix on defense.I thought Bush was looking great, but IMHO, I am not sure he is going to get any sort of a guaranteed starting job like some folks in here think. I would definitely not think of him in terms of Michael Turner backup to starting RB potential.

 

[jonboltz]

I still think his best chance at meaningful playing time will be in KC.

 

[Ilov80s]

are we still sure he is a legit #1 back? since that Thursday night vs Denver when the Raiders line was just opening truck-sized holes Bush has been awful. he's averaged 3.2 YPC during the last 5 games and is under 4 YPC on the year. he is a good grinder but has little burst and some of the worst open field speed of any back in the NFL. he can play a role but not as the main back if you want a dynamic running game

He started out well, but man he came down to earth. I saw someone above mention Detroit and how Bush was a good receiver. If I were Detroit, I would rather have Kevin Smith. He seemed dynamic in the games I watched, even when his ankle was tweaked and is a very good receiver. If Best comes back or LeShoure and with many other decent backups available, I wouldn't spend any money on Bush if I am Detroit. Lot's more to fix on defense.I thought Bush was looking great, but IMHO, I am not sure he is going to get any sort of a guaranteed starting job like some folks in here think. I would definitely not think of him in terms of Michael Turner backup to starting RB potential.

With medical advances, I think Detroit has a lot of confidence that LeShoure is ready to go next year. Look at 2 recent Achilles tears amongst pro athletes: Piston Jonas Jerebko tore his on October 2010. He was ready for the NBA season and is averaging 34 minutes, 12 points and 8 boards which are career best numbers. Demaryius Thomas tore his after the 2010 season. He was ready by October and ended the year with 5 solid games: 25 catches, 448 yards, 3 TDs Bolton's Sam Ricketts ruptured his achiles in February, 2011 and returned this past weekend. Young athletes are recovered, rehabbed, and returning in <12 months. I'm not sure Best is back due to his health. We are in agreement that the Lions are likely to roll with Smith, LeShoure, and a cheap FA or late round pick.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Hey thanks for posting the recent NBA/EPL achilles recoveries - much appreciated. I was thinking about Dem Thomas recently and it made me wonder just what injuries aren't able to be fixed today. It seems like pretty much anything that involves soft tissue can be rehabbed today for young players. It's pretty amazing. Concussions and neck/spine injuries seem to be about the only thing that can keep good young players down.

 

[qimqam]

Giants

Bradshaw looks done ... his feet are destroyed (can't cut anymore) and Jacobs is an Ahole and I believe a free agent.

I'd rather have Beast mode {isn't he a FA)

But they giants would never make a big move like that ... it's not their style

 

[qimqam]

Giants

Bradshaw looks done ... his feet are destroyed (can't cut anymore) and Jacobs is an Ahole and I believe a free agent.

I'd rather have Beast mode {isn't he a FA)

But they giants would never make a big move like that ... it's not their style

 

[Ilov80s]

Hey thanks for posting the recent NBA/EPL achilles recoveries - much appreciated. I was thinking about Dem Thomas recently and it made me wonder just what injuries aren't able to be fixed today. It seems like pretty much anything that involves soft tissue can be rehabbed today for young players. It's pretty amazing. Concussions and neck/spine injuries seem to be about the only thing that can keep good young players down.

NP. Glad you could make sense of it. I fixed it.

 

[Xue]

When the Raiders O-line is clicking, Bush blows up. When they aren't, he's just average. Doesn't break enough tackles like Turner does.

 

[sihaokills]

Giants Bradshaw looks done ... his feet are destroyed (can't cut anymore) and Jacobs is an Ahole and I believe a free agent.I'd rather have Beast mode {isn't he a FA)But they giants would never make a big move like that ... it's not their style

Did you see Bradshaw last night? Cant make cuts?

 

[The Hank]

I know its been mentioned before but I think Cincinnati is probably front runner for his services.

I wouldnt be shocked if NYG or CLE went after him as well.