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I forgot how sick he is until I saw this video on youtube reminding me

http://youtube.com/watch?v=k-OGF28Phnw

Ive waited two years to get some results on him and am I excited :lmao:

Look at that SPEED can you believe this guy is 235 lbs? He outran Pac Man Jones

 
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mdog1967 said:
NorrisB said:
I forgot how sick he is until I saw this video on youtube reminding me

http://youtube.com/watch?v=k-OGF28Phnw

Ive waited two years to get some results on him and am I excited :unsure:

Look at that SPEED can you believe this guy is 235 lbs? He outran Pac Man Jones
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Im on board, but with some reservations untill we get a look at Atlantas Draft and O-Line scheme.
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very :confused: this will ultimately determine Turner's numbers this year. Decent enough QB/WR, me hoping they take Jake Long in the first round !!!!

 
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For the record, Atlanta and Turner needed each other.

Tough market for a RB to land a big deal, but Atlanta needed to turn the page on 2007 and re-brand themselves. Getting a new face for the organization in Turner is a good step.

Now if they land a good QB in the 1st or 2nd round, that could do it as well - but I doubt the rookie gets thrown in to start right away.

 
Jeff Pasquino said:
For the record, Atlanta and Turner needed each other.Tough market for a RB to land a big deal, but Atlanta needed to turn the page on 2007 and re-brand themselves. Getting a new face for the organization in Turner is a good step.Now if they land a good QB in the 1st or 2nd round, that could do it as well - but I doubt the rookie gets thrown in to start right away.
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Turner may have needed someone to offer him that much $, but ATL is just a mess. If they still had Mora and the offense from two years ago it would have been a great fit. I'm a big Turner fan but it would take a HOF RB to have a good year behind that OL. Now add in Redman/rookie QB to keep defenses honest and it's going to be a long year for him in ATL.
 
BoltBacker said:
Jeff Pasquino said:
For the record, Atlanta and Turner needed each other.Tough market for a RB to land a big deal, but Atlanta needed to turn the page on 2007 and re-brand themselves. Getting a new face for the organization in Turner is a good step.Now if they land a good QB in the 1st or 2nd round, that could do it as well - but I doubt the rookie gets thrown in to start right away.
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Turner may have needed someone to offer him that much $, but ATL is just a mess. If they still had Mora and the offense from two years ago it would have been a great fit. I'm a big Turner fan but it would take a HOF RB to have a good year behind that OL. Now add in Redman/rookie QB to keep defenses honest and it's going to be a long year for him in ATL.
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Turner is a big talent, he'll still produce.
 
when it's 17-0 for the other team by the 2nd quarter....doubt Turner sees the ball.

I'd still slot him for about 275 carries...1300 yards....6-8 tds

Norwood likely gets about 100 carries.

 
switz said:
BoltBacker said:
Jeff Pasquino said:
For the record, Atlanta and Turner needed each other.Tough market for a RB to land a big deal, but Atlanta needed to turn the page on 2007 and re-brand themselves. Getting a new face for the organization in Turner is a good step.Now if they land a good QB in the 1st or 2nd round, that could do it as well - but I doubt the rookie gets thrown in to start right away.
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Turner may have needed someone to offer him that much $, but ATL is just a mess. If they still had Mora and the offense from two years ago it would have been a great fit. I'm a big Turner fan but it would take a HOF RB to have a good year behind that OL. Now add in Redman/rookie QB to keep defenses honest and it's going to be a long year for him in ATL.
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Turner is a big talent, he'll still produce.
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I just wish we could have seen him play on that Mora team from a year or two ago. He would have been a lock for 1500+/15+ on that team. My expectations for this ATL team is pretty low as a whole.
 
Is there a way to throw a spike strip down on a bandwagon with wooden wheels??

He will need a greatly improved O-Line, and solid QB play before he gets a rollin' , I say give him another year to get situated, learn the offense, and improve the Offense and then Turner will start to hit the potential he has. He is only 26 right now, I say magic number 27 is when he gets going.

 
I'm on the bandwagon...and I'm bringing a year and a half of baggage with me.

I am tempering my expectations for 2008 (RB2), but 2009 and beyond I expect him to be a strong #1. (top8)

 
i am hoping he is no worse then LenWhale numbers for Tenn and expect him to be better. Redman moved the ball last year at QB and White showed the WRs werent as bad as Vick made them to be. A new blocking TE and the pieces are there.

Now if their Def and Oline improves we will see a great year.

 
i've seen the highlights, but i still forgot what an electric initial first step he has... just a SICK burst, as was said...

it probable that a lot of people haven't seen him much and have underestimated & misunderstood his shockingly fast top end speed (i'm guessing they already have a pretty fair semblance of appreciating just how powerful he is)... also, just like a pitcher with a wicked fast ball is more effective if he has a nasty change up, & the ability to mix speeds so the hitters can't get a bead on him, a few of those highlights reveal he has the ability to change speeds, and he absolutely has a second & even third gear in the open field, which i had forgotten...

i agree with one of other posts upthread, i'm cautiously optimistic with tempered enthusiasm...

275-300 carries, 1,200-1,300 yards, 6-8 TDs about right, with potential boost from receiving numbers...

i also am more excited about his prospects going forward, for this could be a difficult year...

unapologetic michael "the burner" turner bandwagon member... :unsure:

 
I remember reading something about ATL having to change blocking schemes for the best utilization of the type of runner Turner is. Enthusiasm should always be tempered with realism. Will Turner be good I think he absolutely will? Will he be the next top 5 RB, I doubt it. ATL has so many needs and is going through so many changes. I am just happy they have someone now they can get excited about watching football again. Mr HOME DEPOT needed some more brand names for his franchise:)

 
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Woulda been on the bangwagon but the Atlanta offense is going to be such a mess this year i don't see him cracking the top 20.

Chris Redmon or Matt Ryan leading the way, shoot they might just throw 11 in the box vs em.

 
projections:

275 touches, 1150 yards 5 tds

These numbers will improve if the birds find a QB, otherwise Turner will be seeing 8 faces in the box a lot

 
I traded B. Marshall for MT at the start of last season, I need to see a significant return on my investment.

Choooooo Chooooo!

 
Gordon Keith said:
Domination said:
What kind of predictions do people have for Turner this year?
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I'll go out on a limb....he will have some good games and probably some bad games. There is no way of knowing if the good will outweigh the bad enough for him to be worth his draft slot..
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:thumbdown: Way to say....absolutely nothing. That's no limb dude, it's a redwood's trunk.
 
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Bob Magaw said:
i've seen the highlights, but i still forgot what an electric initial first step he has... just a SICK burst, as was said...it probable that a lot of people haven't seen him much and have underestimated & misunderstood his shockingly fast top end speed (i'm guessing they already have a pretty fair semblance of appreciating just how powerful he is)... also, just like a pitcher with a wicked fast ball is more effective if he has a nasty change up, & the ability to mix speeds so the hitters can't get a bead on him, a few of those highlights reveal he has the ability to change speeds, and he absolutely has a second & even third gear in the open field, which i had forgotten...i agree with one of other posts upthread, i'm cautiously optimistic with tempered enthusiasm...275-300 carries, 1,200-1,300 yards, 6-8 TDs about right, with potential boost from receiving numbers...i also am more excited about his prospects going forward, for this could be a difficult year...unapologetic michael "the burner" turner bandwagon member... :loco:
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:goodposting:
 
man oh man, i'm going to have a tough time deciding between him and ronnie brown to keep as my #2RB next season behind ADP. i have to drop one of them.

 
I dont see it. He was given the opportunity to basically play the entire game twice this year and he had 34 carries, 136 yards and 0 TDs. The times when he was successful was when he came in during the 4th quarter when he was fresh and the defense was beat up. In a draft, whether it be redraft or dynasty, i would let someone else draft him as he has a lot of hype which will increase his ADP to where it doesnt belong.

 
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I dont see it. He was given the opportunity to basically play the entire game twice this year and he had 34 carries, 136 yards and 0 TDs. The times when he was successful was when he came in during the 4th corner when he was fresh and the defense was beat up. In a draft, whether it be redraft or dynasty, i would let someone else draft him as he has a lot of hype which will increase his ADP to where it doesnt belong.
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4th corner? what do you mean?
 
Horses Mouth said:
man oh man, i'm going to have a tough time deciding between him and ronnie brown to keep as my #2RB next season behind ADP. i have to drop one of them.
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I am not on the M. Turner bandwagon, but even I will say go with Turner because I'm definately not on the Ronnie Brown bandwagon.For Turner bandwagon members, what in your mind would NOT be a successful season in terms of numbers and assuming the guy plays the full season.Of course if he gets injured along the way, that won't make anyone happy. What numbers would be kind of meh, not really what I thought.Would 1050 yards and 6 Td's be on the low side for you?
 
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TaxMan said:
awesomeness said:
I dont see it. He was given the opportunity to basically play the entire game twice this year and he had 34 carries, 136 yards and 0 TDs. The times when he was successful was when he came in during the 4th corner when he was fresh and the defense was beat up. In a draft, whether it be redraft or dynasty, i would let someone else draft him as he has a lot of hype which will increase his ADP to where it doesnt belong.
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4th corner? what do you mean?
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:missing: fixed
 
Iwannabeacowboybaby! said:
Horses Mouth said:
man oh man, i'm going to have a tough time deciding between him and ronnie brown to keep as my #2RB next season behind ADP. i have to drop one of them.
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I am not on the M. Turner bandwagon, but even I will say go with Turner because I'm definately not on the Ronnie Brown bandwagon.For Turner bandwagon members, what in your mind would NOT be a successful season in terms of numbers and assuming the guy plays the full season.Of course if he gets injured along the way, that won't make anyone happy. What numbers wouldn't be kind of meh, not really what I thought.Would 1050 yards and 6 Td's be on the low side for you?
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Turner's floor assuming he plays all 16 games would be comparable to Lendale White's number last year1100 rushing yards, 150 rec yards and 7 TDs.And no, i'm not comparing Turner's running style/abilities to Lendale, i'm just talking numbers.
 
renesauz said:
Gordon Keith said:
Domination said:
What kind of predictions do people have for Turner this year?
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I'll go out on a limb....he will have some good games and probably some bad games. There is no way of knowing if the good will outweigh the bad enough for him to be worth his draft slot..
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:rolleyes: Way to say....absolutely nothing. That's no limb dude, it's a redwood's trunk.
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I guess I was too lazy to find a sarcasm smiley...sorry to those who didnt get it. :confused: .
 
Iwannabeacowboybaby! said:
Horses Mouth said:
man oh man, i'm going to have a tough time deciding between him and ronnie brown to keep as my #2RB next season behind ADP. i have to drop one of them.
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I am not on the M. Turner bandwagon, but even I will say go with Turner because I'm definately not on the Ronnie Brown bandwagon.For Turner bandwagon members, what in your mind would NOT be a successful season in terms of numbers and assuming the guy plays the full season.Of course if he gets injured along the way, that won't make anyone happy. What numbers would be kind of meh, not really what I thought.Would 1050 yards and 6 Td's be on the low side for you?
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Turner is fourth in my stable he'll see field during injuries and bye weeks. I will judge him only buy how he performs agianst B. Marshall since I traded him for Turner.
 
i also forgot to mention, more from the underappreciated, misunderstood department...

i think he has a little more wiggle, shiftiness & make-you-miss ability than many realize...

my favorite highlight was play against colts starting around 1:12... not sure if defenders are beat up or otherwise tired, but what stood out is that he gets on top of defenders in second level almost instantly, & then explodes past them in the open field... the safety (doss?) should have had the angle on him but got blown away...

turner is a freakin bridge troll with wheels...

 
ATL should push hard for Pennington. I also thikn that Leftwich is an upgrade over Redman. Sage Rosenfelds might be decent.

If I am ATL - I am pushing hard to land one of the followig in this order - Pennington, Quinn Gray, Kurt Warner, and Brad Johnson with Charlie Batch in the mix there somewhere. Definatly this team needs a veteran QB starting for them though.

 
BigTex said:
Moe Green said:
This one's better.
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He's a monster but he has no break away speed. That's the only knock on him.
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You're right that he doesn't have that break away speed. However, I don't think that's necessary for every RB to have. The things I like about Barber---Has a nose for the endzone. He's very much like Shaun Alexander of a few years ago in this respect.

---Almost always seems to get positive yardage, especially when it counts or when it seems there's nothing there. This is what sustains drives and why I think Dallas would bring him in later on in the games when it mattered most.

---He runs hard with determination and energy. You almost get a sense that his teammates get energized when he's in there. At the same time, I think this is also a weakness of his as he expends so much energy on every run that I don't think he can handle the full load by himself. This past year, in the couple games where he got a full workload, he seemed less effective at the end of the game and definitely more winded. He works best when he's fresh

---It's amazing if you look at his game logs how many 10+ yd runs this guy has on so many limited touches.

Those are the things I like about Marion Barber. I think he's a fantastic fantasy #2 RB, but I don't know if I could count on him as a #1. We'll see what happens this year and if he's given the full load and what he does with it if he is given it. It's always bugged me that two different coaching staffs decided that J. Jones was the starter over Barber and limited his touches despite his consistent outperformance of Jones on the field. I think that they all realized that he wears down too easily if his touches aren't limited. I'm not sure.

 
BigTex said:
Iwannabeacowboybaby! said:
Horses Mouth said:
man oh man, i'm going to have a tough time deciding between him and ronnie brown to keep as my #2RB next season behind ADP. i have to drop one of them.
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I am not on the M. Turner bandwagon, but even I will say go with Turner because I'm definately not on the Ronnie Brown bandwagon.For Turner bandwagon members, what in your mind would NOT be a successful season in terms of numbers and assuming the guy plays the full season.Of course if he gets injured along the way, that won't make anyone happy. What numbers would be kind of meh, not really what I thought.Would 1050 yards and 6 Td's be on the low side for you?
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Turner is fourth in my stable he'll see field during injuries and bye weeks. I will judge him only buy how he performs agianst B. Marshall since I traded him for Turner.
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That's an interesting trade. Like many people are, I'm very high on Marshall and partly due to Bloom I guess as he pointed him out very early. I had Marshall on most of my teams last year, drafting him in about the 12th and 13th rounds when many people in early drafts didn't really know who he was. (Not talking about peopel on this board.)I think Marshall's in for another big year but that trade you made still could be good for you, as Turner could let loose, really depends on what else you have on your team to fill into your starting lineups.My guess is that Marshall will have more yardage and the TD's will be about the same.
 
awesomeness said:
I dont see it. He was given the opportunity to basically play the entire game twice this year and he had 34 carries, 136 yards and 0 TDs. The times when he was successful was when he came in during the 4th quarter when he was fresh and the defense was beat up. In a draft, whether it be redraft or dynasty, i would let someone else draft him as he has a lot of hype which will increase his ADP to where it doesnt belong.
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Fair point!I do believe Turner will be somewhat like Lamont Jordan, during his first season in Oakland. i.e, 50+ catches and barely 1000 yards rushing, maybe 8-10 tds.the offense will be built around him, so he'll see plenty of action and many passes come his way, but the line is so shaky, that its hard to imagine him grinding out more than ,say, 1050 yards rushing. I think his fantasy value jumps in RB PPR leaguesor leagues that award points for RB reception yardage..
 
awesomeness said:
I dont see it. He was given the opportunity to basically play the entire game twice this year and he had 34 carries, 136 yards and 0 TDs. The times when he was successful was when he came in during the 4th quarter when he was fresh and the defense was beat up. In a draft, whether it be redraft or dynasty, i would let someone else draft him as he has a lot of hype which will increase his ADP to where it doesnt belong.
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carries   yards  average 1st Quarter	 20	   158	 7.9 2nd Quarter	 40	   210	 5.3 3rd Quarter	 51	   239	 4.7 4th Quarter	117	   650	 5.6 1st Half		60	   368	 6.1 2nd Half	   168	   889	 5.3
 
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