MLB Trade Deadline Thread (1 Viewer)

[Eephus]

Done deals:

Lee-Smoak

Gonzalez-Escobar

On the block:

Fielder

Oswalt

Hart

Any Diamondback

Dunn

Uggla

Capps

Aardsma

Dotel

All-star John Buck

 

[Smack Tripper]

Lilly on the block and will go to the Yankees.

He replaces Pettite til September, then he takes Hughes place when they transition phil back to the pen to limit innings and contribute in the playoffs. Lilly is then a lefty arm out of the playoff pen. Too much sense not to happen.

 

[r0llin_game]

Kerry Wood to the Reds for a AA LHP such as Matt Fariel maybe or something like that. Wood is on the block and I have seen the Reds are interested. Fariel is a lefty with a fastball around mid 90's with some decent off speed pitches.

 

[Osaurus]

Rays allegedly interested in Hart and the owners are loosening their purse strings (allegedly). I just don't see it. They need another bat big time.

 

[Oh Yes!]

Rays allegedly interested in Hart and the owners are loosening their purse strings (allegedly). I just don't see it. They need another bat big time.

derrek lee?

 

[Gopher State]

Twins looking to trade for either:

AZ Dan Haren

Cub's Ted Lilly

either for prospects

Word is that Twins are out of the Oswalt lottery

 

[Gopher State]

Twins looking to trade for either:

AZ Dan Haren

Cub's Ted Lilly

either for prospects

Word is that Twins are out of the Oswalt lottery

 

[Gopher State]

Twins looking to trade for either:

AZ Dan Haren

Cub's Ted Lilly

either for prospects

Word is that Twins are out of the Oswalt lottery

 

[GreatLakesMike]

Reds might see what they can get for Arroyo. Word is that the organization wants Arroyo to take a pay-cut next year, and Arroyo is not on board. Arroyo is having a nice season, but the Reds do have a lot of depth at starting pitcher. Problem is, most of that depth is young, and "ideally", they'll want to limit their innings.

I'm sure Harang will be shipped out if the Reds can get a bag of peanuts for him.

 

[harryhood]

Heard on MLB radio yesterday the asking price for Roy Oswalt is STILL "4 top prospects". If true, why on earth would ANY team give that up after what Texas just landed Cliff Lee for? If that price is non-negotiable, I have a hard time seeing Roy going anywhere

 

[harryhood]

Reds might see what they can get for Arroyo. Word is that the organization wants Arroyo to take a pay-cut next year, and Arroyo is not on board. Arroyo is having a nice season, but the Reds do have a lot of depth at starting pitcher. Problem is, most of that depth is young, and "ideally", they'll want to limit their innings. I'm sure Harang will be shipped out if the Reds can get a bag of peanuts for him.

It's not the word, that is a fact. Arroyo pointed to the same request he obliged in Boston when they asked him to take a pay cut, only to turn around and trade him right after. He has been a solid option in their rotation and they are in the hunt for the playoffs, so I highly doubt they are going to be sellers right now. If they were to actually have him on the block I do not know what the Mets are waiting for. Lilly or Arroyo would both be tremendous upgrades to their rotation.

 

[Smack Tripper]

Twins looking to trade for either:AZ Dan HarenCub's Ted Lillyeither for prospectsWord is that Twins are out of the Oswalt lottery

Lilly would be a nice fit there in that ballpark, but I think Haren is a tremendous pitcher and is better for them moving forward. As it stands now, Haren-Liriano would be the best 1-2 in the AL until Lee-Sabathia gets reunited next year. But a guy like Haren, even if he hasn't been lights out this year, could win them a world series.

 

[Oh Yes!]

red sox and yankees after scott downs.

 

[Limp Ditka]

Lots of mumblings about Werth tonight now that Moyer went down.

 

[de Tocqueville]

Talks about Oswalt to the Phils

 

[Encyclopedia Brown]

Talks about Oswalt to the Phils

On "Baseball Tonight" Kruk is really taking it to the Phils for not keeping Cliff Lee (in addition to adding Halladay).He thinks they blew that scenario big time.

 

[Smack Tripper]

Talks about Oswalt to the Phils

On "Baseball Tonight" Kruk is really taking it to the Phils for not keeping Cliff Lee (in addition to adding Halladay).He thinks they blew that scenario big time.

I think you can't deny they did. Terrible move.

 

[Oh Yes!]

any chance aramis gets moved? big salary, but hes heating up in the 2nd half here. 3 hr's last night.

 

[Darth Cheney]

Werth and Tampa Bay are getting pop. Haren and Oswalt have been mentioned for the Phils....but that makes no sense at all given their reluctance to not keep Lee this year.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

any chance aramis gets moved? big salary, but hes heating up in the 2nd half here. 3 hr's last night.

tigers lost inge, not sure if they will be buyers or sellers though.

 

[Frostillicus]

Twins looking to trade for either:AZ Dan HarenCub's Ted Lillyeither for prospectsWord is that Twins are out of the Oswalt lottery

Lilly would be a nice fit there in that ballpark, but I think Haren is a tremendous pitcher and is better for them moving forward. As it stands now, Haren-Liriano would be the best 1-2 in the AL until Lee-Sabathia gets reunited next year. But a guy like Haren, even if he hasn't been lights out this year, could win them a world series.

I'm really hoping the Twins can figure out a way to get Haren, but I'm not remotely optimistic. Plus it sounds like the D-Backs are looking to get a lot back.

 

[Please See Mine]

Werth and Tampa Bay are getting pop. Haren and Oswalt have been mentioned for the Phils....but that makes no sense at all given their reluctance to not keep Lee this year.

Unless Ruben is man enough to admit that he screwed up and the organization now realizes what it needs to do in order to turn this season around.

 

[pollardsvision]

Werth and Tampa Bay are getting pop. Haren and Oswalt have been mentioned for the Phils....but that makes no sense at all given their reluctance to not keep Lee this year.

Unless Ruben is man enough to admit that he screwed up and the organization now realizes what it needs to do in order to turn this season around.

Don't know there's any "admit" about it. There's no way to deny it.I think this is a huge moment for the Phillies. If they get Oswalt, it better work b/c I think they are set up for a miserable next decade. They keep getting older and more expensive, meanwhile they are looking up, 7 games behind a team that's 5-7 years younger then they are across the board.

 

[Darth Cheney]

Werth and Tampa Bay are getting pop. Haren and Oswalt have been mentioned for the Phils....but that makes no sense at all given their reluctance to not keep Lee this year.

Unless Ruben is man enough to admit that he screwed up and the organization now realizes what it needs to do in order to turn this season around.

Yeah but then that gets into the question as to why Lee was dealt. Ruben first said it was for prospects. Later, he kind of dismissed that and said it was payroll...that they couldn't keep Lee's salary for this year. Plus, they've made a point to say that they'd have trouble affording Werth next year. With Oswalt and Haren under contract next year and making money this year...he really would have a lot of explaining to do.....particularly to a fan base that loves Cliff Lee.

 

[JaxBill]

What do the Phils give up for Oswalt if Werth goes to Tampa? They can't deal Dom Brown because he better be Werth's replacement. All of their other top prospects are down in the single-A range. Happ? Wasn't he going to take Kendrick's starting spot after Kendrick went down?

 

[Balco]

What do the Phils give up for Oswalt if Werth goes to Tampa? They can't deal Dom Brown because he better be Werth's replacement. All of their other top prospects are down in the single-A range. Happ? Wasn't he going to take Kendrick's starting spot after Kendrick went down?

I just can't see Oswalt costing too much. He is due alot of $$$$ and is pretty old in baseball terms. I would think a MLB ready pitcher and a single A prospect.

 

[JaxBill]

Werth and Tampa Bay are getting pop. Haren and Oswalt have been mentioned for the Phils....but that makes no sense at all given their reluctance to not keep Lee this year.

Unless Ruben is man enough to admit that he screwed up and the organization now realizes what it needs to do in order to turn this season around.

Yeah but then that gets into the question as to why Lee was dealt. Ruben first said it was for prospects. Later, he kind of dismissed that and said it was payroll...that they couldn't keep Lee's salary for this year. Plus, they've made a point to say that they'd have trouble affording Werth next year. With Oswalt and Haren under contract next year and making money this year...he really would have a lot of explaining to do.....particularly to a fan base that loves Cliff Lee.

I'm no supporter of the Lee trade but supposedly one of the sticking points was that the Phils expected Lee to ask for a 5 year deal. They don't want to sign pitchers to long-term deals for fear of injury.But either way you look at the Lee deal, with the prospects they got back vs the prospects traded away, it was a disaster.

 

[guru_007]

What do the Phils give up for Oswalt if Werth goes to Tampa? They can't deal Dom Brown because he better be Werth's replacement. All of their other top prospects are down in the single-A range. Happ? Wasn't he going to take Kendrick's starting spot after Kendrick went down?

I just can't see Oswalt costing too much. He is due alot of $$$$ and is pretty old in baseball terms. I would think a MLB ready pitcher and a single A prospect.

yeah, I think the Astros painted themselves into a corner here by waiting so long and asking for way too much.I always thought two top prospects would have been a fine haul. I really don't think Philly has what it takes to make this deal a good one for the Astros, but that this point the Astros need to move that contract. Between Oswalt/Lee and Berkman, you're shelling out like $50mil/year for a crap team.

 

[Balco]

What do the Phils give up for Oswalt if Werth goes to Tampa? They can't deal Dom Brown because he better be Werth's replacement. All of their other top prospects are down in the single-A range. Happ? Wasn't he going to take Kendrick's starting spot after Kendrick went down?

I just can't see Oswalt costing too much. He is due alot of $$$$ and is pretty old in baseball terms. I would think a MLB ready pitcher and a single A prospect.

yeah, I think the Astros painted themselves into a corner here by waiting so long and asking for way too much.I always thought two top prospects would have been a fine haul. I really don't think Philly has what it takes to make this deal a good one for the Astros, but that this point the Astros need to move that contract. Between Oswalt/Lee and Berkman, you're shelling out like $50mil/year for a crap team.

We discussed this in another thread. Lee's salary is untradeable. I believe Berkman is a free agent after this year. And Oswalt has 2 years left. The AStros farm system is barren, they need to implode that roster and get whatever value they can for their veterans. I would think a potential # 3 starter and a high upside Single A prospect can get Oswalt.

 

[Darth Cheney]

What do the Phils give up for Oswalt if Werth goes to Tampa? They can't deal Dom Brown because he better be Werth's replacement. All of their other top prospects are down in the single-A range. Happ? Wasn't he going to take Kendrick's starting spot after Kendrick went down?

I just can't see Oswalt costing too much. He is due alot of $$ and is pretty old in baseball terms. I would think a MLB ready pitcher and a single A prospect.

yeah, I think the Astros painted themselves into a corner here by waiting so long and asking for way too much.I always thought two top prospects would have been a fine haul. I really don't think Philly has what it takes to make this deal a good one for the Astros, but that this point the Astros need to move that contract. Between Oswalt/Lee and Berkman, you're shelling out like $50mil/year for a crap team.

Werth to Tampa....prospects from Tampa to Houston.....Oswalt to Philly.... That's how I think they are talking...

 

[Polecat]

What do the Phils give up for Oswalt if Werth goes to Tampa? They can't deal Dom Brown because he better be Werth's replacement. All of their other top prospects are down in the single-A range. Happ? Wasn't he going to take Kendrick's starting spot after Kendrick went down?

I just can't see Oswalt costing too much. He is due alot of $$ and is pretty old in baseball terms. I would think a MLB ready pitcher and a single A prospect.

yeah, I think the Astros painted themselves into a corner here by waiting so long and asking for way too much.I always thought two top prospects would have been a fine haul. I really don't think Philly has what it takes to make this deal a good one for the Astros, but that this point the Astros need to move that contract. Between Oswalt/Lee and Berkman, you're shelling out like $50mil/year for a crap team.

Werth to Tampa....prospects from Tampa to Houston.....Oswalt to Philly.... That's how I think they are talking...

This is what I am hearing locally. However, the Astros front office is so grossly inept, that I am sure that they will find a a way to screw this up.

 

[guru_007]

What do the Phils give up for Oswalt if Werth goes to Tampa? They can't deal Dom Brown because he better be Werth's replacement. All of their other top prospects are down in the single-A range. Happ? Wasn't he going to take Kendrick's starting spot after Kendrick went down?

I just can't see Oswalt costing too much. He is due alot of $$$$ and is pretty old in baseball terms. I would think a MLB ready pitcher and a single A prospect.

yeah, I think the Astros painted themselves into a corner here by waiting so long and asking for way too much.I always thought two top prospects would have been a fine haul. I really don't think Philly has what it takes to make this deal a good one for the Astros, but that this point the Astros need to move that contract. Between Oswalt/Lee and Berkman, you're shelling out like $50mil/year for a crap team.

We discussed this in another thread. Lee's salary is untradeable. I believe Berkman is a free agent after this year. And Oswalt has 2 years left. The AStros farm system is barren, they need to implode that roster and get whatever value they can for their veterans. I would think a potential # 3 starter and a high upside Single A prospect can get Oswalt.

Actually, the Astros farm system is no longer barren. Don't get me wrong, it's not plentiful, but there are at least 2-3 mlb players down there now, and hopefully this year's draft pans out for them. I have to think they get better than a potential 3 starter and single a prospect .....especially since I can almost be slotted in at the #3 slot in the Astros rotation right now.

 

[Balco]

What do the Phils give up for Oswalt if Werth goes to Tampa? They can't deal Dom Brown because he better be Werth's replacement. All of their other top prospects are down in the single-A range. Happ? Wasn't he going to take Kendrick's starting spot after Kendrick went down?

I just can't see Oswalt costing too much. He is due alot of $$$$ and is pretty old in baseball terms. I would think a MLB ready pitcher and a single A prospect.

yeah, I think the Astros painted themselves into a corner here by waiting so long and asking for way too much.I always thought two top prospects would have been a fine haul. I really don't think Philly has what it takes to make this deal a good one for the Astros, but that this point the Astros need to move that contract. Between Oswalt/Lee and Berkman, you're shelling out like $50mil/year for a crap team.

We discussed this in another thread. Lee's salary is untradeable. I believe Berkman is a free agent after this year. And Oswalt has 2 years left. The AStros farm system is barren, they need to implode that roster and get whatever value they can for their veterans. I would think a potential # 3 starter and a high upside Single A prospect can get Oswalt.

Actually, the Astros farm system is no longer barren. Don't get me wrong, it's not plentiful, but there are at least 2-3 mlb players down there now, and hopefully this year's draft pans out for them. I have to think they get better than a potential 3 starter and single a prospect .....especially since I can almost be slotted in at the #3 slot in the Astros rotation right now.

Who are the prospects? Jason Castro is a solid defensive catcher with no pop, who will likely be a .275 hitter in the majors at his peak (which is actually good). He is struggling badly since his call up, though. Jiovanni Mier looks completely lost at the plate in Single A. Jordan Lyles is looking good. But I can't think of many worse farm systems than the Astros right now.

 

[guru_007]

Who are the prospects? Jason Castro is a solid defensive catcher with no pop, who will likely be a .275 hitter in the majors at his peak (which is actually good). He is struggling badly since his call up, though. Jiovanni Mier looks completely lost at the plate in Single A. Jordan Lyles is looking good. But I can't think of many worse farm systems than the Astros right now.

As i mentioned, it is still not plentiful down there, but compared to the past 3 years, it is showing signs of hope.Castro is a legitimate ml catcher. Compared to who the Astros have had back there for the past 10 years, Castro is Mauer-like offensively. Mier is young, and Jordan Lyles has a ton of upside. Both have major league potential. They have a number of arms that may develop and the last two years of drafts have resulted in at least some signed players with their early picks. Again, this is not a system flush with talent, but considering what they ahve produced the past 4-5 years, this is a step in the right direction.

 

[Billy Bats]

What do the Phils give up for Oswalt if Werth goes to Tampa? They can't deal Dom Brown because he better be Werth's replacement. All of their other top prospects are down in the single-A range. Happ? Wasn't he going to take Kendrick's starting spot after Kendrick went down?

I just can't see Oswalt costing too much. He is due alot of $$ and is pretty old in baseball terms. I would think a MLB ready pitcher and a single A prospect.

yeah, I think the Astros painted themselves into a corner here by waiting so long and asking for way too much.I always thought two top prospects would have been a fine haul. I really don't think Philly has what it takes to make this deal a good one for the Astros, but that this point the Astros need to move that contract. Between Oswalt/Lee and Berkman, you're shelling out like $50mil/year for a crap team.

Werth to Tampa....prospects from Tampa to Houston.....Oswalt to Philly.... That's how I think they are talking...

The way Amaro is talking and listening to sports radio this afternoon, alot of them seem to think something can happen as soon as today. Any Tampa people out here with rumors on acquiring Werth and who you might be giving up?

 

[Balco]

What do the Phils give up for Oswalt if Werth goes to Tampa? They can't deal Dom Brown because he better be Werth's replacement. All of their other top prospects are down in the single-A range. Happ? Wasn't he going to take Kendrick's starting spot after Kendrick went down?

I just can't see Oswalt costing too much. He is due alot of $$ and is pretty old in baseball terms. I would think a MLB ready pitcher and a single A prospect.

yeah, I think the Astros painted themselves into a corner here by waiting so long and asking for way too much.I always thought two top prospects would have been a fine haul. I really don't think Philly has what it takes to make this deal a good one for the Astros, but that this point the Astros need to move that contract. Between Oswalt/Lee and Berkman, you're shelling out like $50mil/year for a crap team.

Werth to Tampa....prospects from Tampa to Houston.....Oswalt to Philly.... That's how I think they are talking...

The way Amaro is talking and listening to sports radio this afternoon, alot of them seem to think something can happen as soon as today. Any Tampa people out here with rumors on acquiring Werth and who you might be giving up?

Werth is a free agent after this year, right? Can't see them getting a blue chip prospect. But Tampa bay has a ton of prospects.

 

[Frostillicus]

Anybdoy have a clue what it would take to get Haren?

 

[Premier]

Any Tampa people out here with rumors on acquiring Werth and who you might be giving up?

It won't be Hellickson or Jennings, I can assure you of that. The Rays are pretty notorious for holding their prospects close to the vest, and I wouldn't expect that to change here. If I had to guess, it would be a lower-level arm (probably in A ball) with a lot of upside. Maybe a Nick Barnese-type.

 

[Darth Cheney]

Any Tampa people out here with rumors on acquiring Werth and who you might be giving up?

It won't be Hellickson or Jennings, I can assure you of that. The Rays are pretty notorious for holding their prospects close to the vest, and I wouldn't expect that to change here. If I had to guess, it would be a lower-level arm (probably in A ball) with a lot of upside. Maybe a Nick Barnese-type.

What about an Upton?

 

[Darth Cheney]

Anybdoy have a clue what it would take to get Haren?

I forget which baseball guy was on 610WIP today..( it was a national guy)....but he said that the likeliness of Haren getting moved went down when the D-Backs canned their manager and GM.

 

[Premier]

Any Tampa people out here with rumors on acquiring Werth and who you might be giving up?

It won't be Hellickson or Jennings, I can assure you of that. The Rays are pretty notorious for holding their prospects close to the vest, and I wouldn't expect that to change here. If I had to guess, it would be a lower-level arm (probably in A ball) with a lot of upside. Maybe a Nick Barnese-type.

What about an Upton?

More likely than the other two mentioned, but as bad as he has been offensively...if you take Upton's defense off the team, I'm not sure how much Werth really improves you.

 

[fasteddie_21]

Kerry Wood to the Reds for a AA LHP such as Matt Fariel maybe or something like that. Wood is on the block and I have seen the Reds are interested. Fariel is a lefty with a fastball around mid 90's with some decent off speed pitches.

Zero chance the Reds want Wood.

 

[fasteddie_21]

Reds might see what they can get for Arroyo. Word is that the organization wants Arroyo to take a pay-cut next year, and Arroyo is not on board. Arroyo is having a nice season, but the Reds do have a lot of depth at starting pitcher. Problem is, most of that depth is young, and "ideally", they'll want to limit their innings. I'm sure Harang will be shipped out if the Reds can get a bag of peanuts for him.

The Reds won't pick up Harang's option for next season, but will pickup Arroyo's. Zero chance he's moved this year.

 

[Please See Mine]

Any Tampa people out here with rumors on acquiring Werth and who you might be giving up?

It won't be Hellickson or Jennings, I can assure you of that. The Rays are pretty notorious for holding their prospects close to the vest, and I wouldn't expect that to change here. If I had to guess, it would be a lower-level arm (probably in A ball) with a lot of upside. Maybe a Nick Barnese-type.

What about an Upton?

More likely than the other two mentioned, but as bad as he has been offensively...if you take Upton's defense off the team, I'm not sure how much Werth really improves you.

Wade Davis or Upton were mentioned on philly sports radio as coming back for Werth.At 6:00 the word was that that would be a separate deal from the Astros, with that deal centering on J.A. Happ and at least 1 of the Phillies top single-A prospects for Oswalt. Supposedly the Phillies have the most prospects in single-A of any team. Whoopee.

 

[Premier]

Any Tampa people out here with rumors on acquiring Werth and who you might be giving up?

It won't be Hellickson or Jennings, I can assure you of that. The Rays are pretty notorious for holding their prospects close to the vest, and I wouldn't expect that to change here. If I had to guess, it would be a lower-level arm (probably in A ball) with a lot of upside. Maybe a Nick Barnese-type.

What about an Upton?

More likely than the other two mentioned, but as bad as he has been offensively...if you take Upton's defense off the team, I'm not sure how much Werth really improves you.

Wade Davis or Upton were mentioned on philly sports radio as coming back for Werth.At 6:00 the word was that that would be a separate deal from the Astros, with that deal centering on J.A. Happ and at least 1 of the Phillies top single-A prospects for Oswalt. Supposedly the Phillies have the most prospects in single-A of any team. Whoopee.

Nah. The Rays aren't likely to give up 5 years of cheap Wade Davis for two months of Jayson Werth. Doesn't really make sense.

 

[Please See Mine]

I know, it definitely seemed strange to me when I heard it unless they've really soured on him.

I guess that's what Amaro is asking for anyway. http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2010/07/oswa...rade-talks.html

 

[Premier]

I know, it definitely seemed strange to me when I heard it unless they've really soured on him.

I guess that's what Amaro is asking for anyway. http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2010/07/oswa...rade-talks.html

Davis is the type of pitching prospect you trade in the off-season for a young, good cost-controlled hitter. Friedman typically doesn't get hosed either. I'd be surprised if he gave up anything more than a B-level prospect. He'll just walk away from it.

 

[Billy Bats]

I know, it definitely seemed strange to me when I heard it unless they've really soured on him.

I guess that's what Amaro is asking for anyway. http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2010/07/oswa...rade-talks.html

Davis is the type of pitching prospect you trade in the off-season for a young, good cost-controlled hitter. Friedman typically doesn't get hosed either. I'd be surprised if he gave up anything more than a B-level prospect. He'll just walk away from it.

Well I've actually read that he's close to being pulled from the rotation for Hellickson, so if that's the case why not deal him for Werth and get something for him?

 

[Premier]

I know, it definitely seemed strange to me when I heard it unless they've really soured on him.

I guess that's what Amaro is asking for anyway. http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2010/07/oswa...rade-talks.html

Davis is the type of pitching prospect you trade in the off-season for a young, good cost-controlled hitter. Friedman typically doesn't get hosed either. I'd be surprised if he gave up anything more than a B-level prospect. He'll just walk away from it.

Well I've actually read that he's close to being pulled from the rotation for Hellickson, so if that's the case why not deal him for Werth and get something for him?

Just because Hellickson is better doesn't mean you trade Davis.The Rays obviously have a budget. Going into next year they will likely lose Crawford and Pena. They have a homemade Crawford replacement in Jennings, and I would bet Pena gets replaced by trading a starter now (likely Garza) for a young power-hitting first baseman, or positional player. That way next year, both Davis and Hellickson are in the rotation.

The Rays have to cost-control players. They can't afford to trade stud prospects for two-month rentals. But they will trade lower-level guys who are a few years away.

 

[Billy Bats]

I know, it definitely seemed strange to me when I heard it unless they've really soured on him.

I guess that's what Amaro is asking for anyway. http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2010/07/oswa...rade-talks.html

Davis is the type of pitching prospect you trade in the off-season for a young, good cost-controlled hitter. Friedman typically doesn't get hosed either. I'd be surprised if he gave up anything more than a B-level prospect. He'll just walk away from it.

Well I've actually read that he's close to being pulled from the rotation for Hellickson, so if that's the case why not deal him for Werth and get something for him?

Just because Hellickson is better doesn't mean you trade Davis.The Rays obviously have a budget. Going into next year they will likely lose Crawford and Pena. They have a homemade Crawford replacement in Jennings, and I would bet Pena gets replaced by trading a starter now (likely Garza) for a young power-hitting first baseman, or positional player. That way next year, both Davis and Hellickson are in the rotation.

The Rays have to cost-control players. They can't afford to trade stud prospects for two-month rentals. But they will trade lower-level guys who are a few years away.

Is Davis still considered a stud prospect? You can also look at it like they're trading Davis for Werth and Hellickson. If Davis doesn't have a spot might as well get a bat that you need and get the draft picks that thy love if Werth winds up walking in the off season. I know I'm probably not looking at it logically, but just another point of view.