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Mock draft - Attempt #2. 2 rounds (1 Viewer)

Andy Dufresne

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1. Kansas City - Star Lotulelei DT, - Utah Reid has stated they'll stick with the 3-4. The GM has come out and said they'll take BPA. Jackson and Dorsey aren't very good. The math adds up.2. Jacksonville - Bjoern Werner, DE - Florida State Jags had the fewest sack in the league last year.3. Oakland - Damontre Moore, DE - Texas A&M2nd to Jacksonville in sacks. Opinions on Moore are varied. Some see him this high, others as a 2nd rounder.4. Philadelphia - Luke Joeckel, OT - Texas A&MWho knows if Peters will be able to come back from injury?5. Detroit - Eric Fisher, OT - Central Michigan They need to get some turnover on the line and protect their fragile but talented Qb.6. Cleveland - Jarvis Jones, OLB - Georgia Chud has said they'll run an attacking, hybrid style defense which is a great fit for Jones. Horton likes the 3-4.7. Arizona - QB1A brand new GM has the leeway to take a chance on what the team thinks is the best QB. I have no idea who that will be.8. Buffalo - QB2They're clearly not going to go into the season with Fitzpatrick. 9. NY Jets - Barkevious Mingo, OLB - LSU I wanted to put Keenan Allen here, but their WR contracts have them in a bind. They could instead get the pass rushing talent they've needed for a while10. Tennessee - Dee Milliner, CB - Alabama They really need an upgrade at safety, but selecting Milliner would give them a lot of flexibility in their d-backfield. Plus he'd be the BPA at this point.11. San Diego - Chance Warmack, OG - Alabama12. Miami - Keenan Allen, WR - Cal 13. Tampa Bay - Johnthan Banks, CB - Mississippi State 14. Carolina - Sheldon Richardson, DT - Missouri 15. New Orleans - Sam Montgomery, DE - LSU16. St. Louis - Kenny Vaccaro, FS - Texas 17. Pittsburgh - Dion Jordan, DE - Oregon18. Dallas - Jonathan Cooper, OG - North Carolina 19. NY Giants - Alec Ogeltree, OLB - Gerogia 20. Chicago - Tyler Eifert, TE - Notre Dame21. Cincinnati - Kevin Minter, ILB - LSU 22. St. Louis (from Washington) - Zach Ertz, TE - Stanford 23. Minnesota - Manti Te'o, ILB - Notre Dame 24. Indianapolis - D.J. Fluker - OT - Alabama25. Seattle - Ezekiel Ansah, DE - BYU 26. Green Bay - Alex Okafor, OLB - Texas 27. Houston - Cordarrelle Patterson, WR - Tennessee 28. Denver - Jesse Williams, DT - Alabama29. New England - Lane Johnson, OT - Oklahoma 30. Atlanta - Desmond Trufant, CB - Washington31. Baltimore - Barrett Jones, C - Alabama 32. San Francisco - Eddy Lacy, RB - Alabama2nd Round33. Jacksonville - QB334. Kansas City - QB435. Philadelphia - Xavier Rhodes, CB - Florida State 36. Detroit - Terrance Williams, WR - Baylor 37. Cincinnati (from Oakland) - Giovani Bernard, RB - UNC38. Arizona - Kyle Long, OT - Oregon 39. Cleveland - Josh Gordon/supplimental pick39. NY Jets - Justin Hunter, WR - Tennessee40. Tennessee - Matt Elam, S - Florida 41. Buffalo - DeAndre Hopkins, WR - Clemson 42. Miami - Robert Woods, WR - USC43. Tampa Bay - Corey Lemonier, OLB - Auburn44. Carolina - Johnathan Hankins, DT - Ohio State 45. New Orleans - forfeited/stolen45. San Diego - Oday Aboushi, OT - Virginia46. St. Louis - Da'rick Rogers, WR - Tenn Tech47. Dallas - John Jenkins, DT - Georgia 48. Pittsburgh - Quinton Patton, WR - La. Tech49. NY Giants - Kwann Short, DT - Purdue50. Chicago - Arthur Brown, LB - Kansas St.51. Washington - Eric Reid, S - LSU52. Minnesota - Sharrif Floyd, DT - Florida53. Cincinnati - Tavon Austin, WR - West Virginia54. Miami (from Indianapolis) - Logan Ryan, CB - Rutgers55. Green Bay - Christine Michael, RB - Texas A&M56. Seattle - Markus Wheaton, WR - Oregon St.57. Houston - Dallas Thomas, OT - Tennessee58. Denver - Jordan Poyer, CB - Oregon St.59. New England - Stedman Bailey, WR - West Virginia60. Atlanta - Kasheem Green, LB - Rutgers 61. Baltimore - Datone Jones, DE - UCLA62. San Francisco - Tony Jeffeerson, S - Oklahoma

 
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1. Kansas City - Star Lotulelei DT, - Utah Reid has stated they'll stick with the 3-4. The GM has come out and said they'll take BPA. Jackson and Dorsey aren't very good. The math adds up.
Aren't Jackson and Dorsey spectacular arguments for not taking 3-4 D-linemen in the top 10?
 
1. Kansas City - Star Lotulelei DT, - Utah Reid has stated they'll stick with the 3-4. The GM has come out and said they'll take BPA. Jackson and Dorsey aren't very good. The math adds up.
Aren't Jackson and Dorsey spectacular arguments for not taking 3-4 D-linemen in the top 10?
They're spectacular arguments for not taking a poor one. Dorsey is an excusable pick but Jackson is not.
re: Packers and Okafor - is he a 3/4 DE ? 268 seems light and better suited to a 4/3 defense.
That should have been as an OLB.
 
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1. Kansas City - Star Lotulelei DT, - Utah Reid has stated they'll stick with the 3-4. The GM has come out and said they'll take BPA. Jackson and Dorsey aren't very good. The math adds up.
Aren't Jackson and Dorsey spectacular arguments for not taking 3-4 D-linemen in the top 10?
They're spectacular arguments for not taking a poor one. Dorsey is an excusable pick but Jackson is not.
re: Packers and Okafor - is he a 3/4 DE ? 268 seems light and better suited to a 4/3 defense.
That should have been as an OLB.
Don't see it. All signs indicate the Pack still like Nick Perry. If they go LB it will be a middle backer, not an olb. I think Okafor can be a real good DE - very athletic, worth a 1st round pick. Just don't see that for the Packers
 
Dallas going big lugs in round 1 (OL) and 2 (DL) sounds good to me. Along with safety, I can see these three locations for the first 3 picks.

 
I will not be a happy Pats fan if they go offense with their top two picks...if Vollmer re-signs I don't see anyway the Pats use a #1 on a Tackle as they will have he and Solder entrenched as a starters...if Vollmer goes elsewhere T would be in play...they need help at WR and would not be surprised if they add something there...the issue overall is if they are going to win another title an improved defense has to be priority #1...

 
I will not be a happy Pats fan if they go offense with their top two picks...if Vollmer re-signs I don't see anyway the Pats use a #1 on a Tackle as they will have he and Solder entrenched as a starters...if Vollmer goes elsewhere T would be in play...they need help at WR and would not be surprised if they add something there...the issue overall is if they are going to win another title an improved defense has to be priority #1...
Understandable, and the Lane Johnson thing wasn't as much of a prediction as it was that I just wanted to find somewhere for him to go in the 1st. I thought about putting him all the way up at San Diego at #11 - supply/demand being what it is.Where do the Pats need the most on defense? Front three? OLB?
 
i have to think that chicago is looking at addressing their O-line. it's been a sore spot for some time now. local sports radio talked about how woeful those players have been. one, if not both, picks would be spent here (assuming FA doesn't help them).

 
i have to think that chicago is looking at addressing their O-line. it's been a sore spot for some time now. local sports radio talked about how woeful those players have been. one, if not both, picks would be spent here (assuming FA doesn't help them).
Yes and no. Webb improved as the year progressed so it's the interior and right side that they need more. Definitely a possibility though.It would be a good landing spot for Lane Johnson.
 
No way does Joeckel slip past #3. This would be ideal because the Raiders would have multiple trade offers on the table if that were the case. Actually I am hoping your mock is right. :thumbup:

 
I will not be a happy Pats fan if they go offense with their top two picks...if Vollmer re-signs I don't see anyway the Pats use a #1 on a Tackle as they will have he and Solder entrenched as a starters...if Vollmer goes elsewhere T would be in play...they need help at WR and would not be surprised if they add something there...the issue overall is if they are going to win another title an improved defense has to be priority #1...
Understandable, and the Lane Johnson thing wasn't as much of a prediction as it was that I just wanted to find somewhere for him to go in the 1st. I thought about putting him all the way up at San Diego at #11 - supply/demand being what it is.Where do the Pats need the most on defense? Front three? OLB?
They need a lot of things, but the main need is for guys who can produce immediately. That means secondary, pass rush, and offensive line. I wouldnt be surprised to see them draft a project for the d line to groom behind wilfork, if there's someone out there with size and crappy technique/wortk ethic who they can coach up. I like the idea of going o line with either of their first two picks if there's a quality guy.The one pick that stood out to me was jacksonville taking a qb at the top of the second. I don't think they do that. I think they're much more likely to stick with blaine for another year, or take qb1 at the top of the draft, than take the third qb off the board at the top of the second. If they love someone, they will reach with their first pick. If they don't, they wont risk gabberts already fragile development with a qb controversy. taking a guy at the top of the second is basically an acknowledgement that this is your qb of the future. Once in a rare while, it works out... maybe russell wilson is the closest example recently? But otherwise, I think they stock up everywhere else. If I were them, I would take a good d and work on making it dominant. Then as gabbart develops along with blackmon and lewis, and hopefully they can squeeze another year or two out of mjd, they try to make a run. The main thing is getting a respectable season under way, and soon. A dominant d is the fastest route for them imo.
 
I will not be a happy Pats fan if they go offense with their top two picks...if Vollmer re-signs I don't see anyway the Pats use a #1 on a Tackle as they will have he and Solder entrenched as a starters...if Vollmer goes elsewhere T would be in play...they need help at WR and would not be surprised if they add something there...the issue overall is if they are going to win another title an improved defense has to be priority #1...
Understandable, and the Lane Johnson thing wasn't as much of a prediction as it was that I just wanted to find somewhere for him to go in the 1st. I thought about putting him all the way up at San Diego at #11 - supply/demand being what it is.Where do the Pats need the most on defense? Front three? OLB?
The biggest area they need help is a general one...they need playmakers and defenders with an edge on D...specifically they need more help with the pass-rush especially from the interior (they just signed the USC kid from the CFL who some are saying is like getting a high-round pick)and a Safety that punishes receivers...Talib is a free agent and what happens with him is huge...he's not a Revis but he's a #1 with the Pats and if they lose him it will leave a large hole (and the fact is that outside of Dennard drafting CBs has not been a strength of there's)...so if I had my wish-list it would be:*Best pass-rusher available regardless of the position and regardless of any other skills...until the Pats improve their pass-rush they will not win another title...*Interior lineman with pass-rushing skills to go along with Wilfork and Love...as stated above I would love to know how they view this kid they just signed...*A Rodney Harrisonesque Safety (those do not grow on trees)...no one fears going over the middle on the Pats... *Cornerback...a slot guy to go along with Talib and Dennard would really bolster this D...
 
Can't see SF going with Eddie Lacey after spending high picks the last two drafts on Hunter and LMJ.A 2 gap DT would be a great fit with Sopogoa and RJFrancois as FAs. I think Hankins or Jenkins are better fits here for SF.I could also see a WR (Moss retire, Manningham hurt) like Robert Woods. Perhaps even a CB (not sure who).eta--I'd soil myself adding Robert Woods. wow.Nice job, Andy.

 
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Can't see SF going with Eddie Lacey after spending high picks the last two drafts on Hunter and LMJ.A 2 gap DT would be a great fit with Sopogoa and RJFrancois as FAs. I think Hankins or Jenkins are better fits here for SF.I could also see a WR (Moss retire, Manningham hurt) like Robert Woods. Perhaps even a CB (not sure who).
I see where you're going with the DT angle. But I disagree that they wouldn't take a RB because they have Hunter and James. Neither of those guys fits the Gore mold but Lacy does. If they're going to continue using the offense they have been - and why wouldn't they - it's going to require a back with a bit more heft than those two.
 
Some interesting picks. I'll comment on the teams I follow: I have a hard time seeing T'eo dropping to MIN. With Urlacher possibly gone, I think CHI be a good spot for him as long as no OL prospects grade out high enough at the pick. I do agree TE is a need though, just not sure they'll take one in the 1st.I gotta believe that'd be a dream first two picks for the Eagles.

 
'Andy Dufresne said:
'5Rings said:
Can't see SF going with Eddie Lacey after spending high picks the last two drafts on Hunter and LMJ.A 2 gap DT would be a great fit with Sopogoa and RJFrancois as FAs. I think Hankins or Jenkins are better fits here for SF.I could also see a WR (Moss retire, Manningham hurt) like Robert Woods. Perhaps even a CB (not sure who).
I see where you're going with the DT angle. But I disagree that they wouldn't take a RB because they have Hunter and James. Neither of those guys fits the Gore mold but Lacy does. If they're going to continue using the offense they have been - and why wouldn't they - it's going to require a back with a bit more heft than those two.
I think Lacey would fall into the Brandon Jacobs roster void area. A Lacey pick would, IMO, tell me that Gore is gone, or Hunter is not healthy. Do you see Lacey as the BPA?
 
'Deranged Hermit said:
Some interesting picks. I'll comment on the teams I follow: I have a hard time seeing T'eo dropping to MIN. With Urlacher possibly gone, I think CHI be a good spot for him as long as no OL prospects grade out high enough at the pick. I do agree TE is a need though, just not sure they'll take one in the 1st.I gotta believe that'd be a dream first two picks for the Eagles.
I almost left Teo out completely becuase of how crazy the whole thing is. But in the end, he's still a pretty good player and I think the situation will be chalked up to extreme gullibility. And Vikes GM Spielman loves his Golden Domers.
I think Lacey would fall into the Brandon Jacobs roster void area. A Lacey pick would, IMO, tell me that Gore is gone, or Hunter is not healthy. Do you see Lacey as the BPA?
Gore will soon be gone even though he's still playing lights out. Yes, Lacy is a bit of BPA there. Who would have thought the 49ers would take Jenkins?
 
30. Atlanta - Desmond Trufant, CB - Washingtoni am hearing great things about about his coverage at the senior Bowl but I watched a few game highlights and I wonder if he tackles well enough to be a 1st round pick. I think Xavier Rhodes will go before him.

 
'Andy Dufresne said:
I take it as a given that Packer and Cowboy fans will inevitably disagree with whatever player I choose for their team. :lol:
Was actually going to say I could live with your Dallas picks at this early point.You've always stated that Dallas was hard to mock for because of so many needs. The Homers have just been more passionate about what "needs" are/were the priority.As always, appreciate the effort to do these Mocks.Well done.
 
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'Andy Dufresne said:
'Boston said:
I will not be a happy Pats fan if they go offense with their top two picks...if Vollmer re-signs I don't see anyway the Pats use a #1 on a Tackle as they will have he and Solder entrenched as a starters...if Vollmer goes elsewhere T would be in play...they need help at WR and would not be surprised if they add something there...the issue overall is if they are going to win another title an improved defense has to be priority #1...
Understandable, and the Lane Johnson thing wasn't as much of a prediction as it was that I just wanted to find somewhere for him to go in the 1st. I thought about putting him all the way up at San Diego at #11 - supply/demand being what it is.Where do the Pats need the most on defense? Front three? OLB?
it has to be db.people always cry for more pass rush, and more pass rush would be great, but they moved up to get chandler jones this past year and he basically missed the baltimore game, kyle love (dt) got knocked out in the first series, and they just signed that dude from the cfl.edit: and I forgot marcus benardbear in mind, they only have 3 picks in the first 6 rounds this year, and 2 of their top 3 corners are fa, with the 3rd just off his rookie year.they need corners and a ss more than anything.if they have to move mccourty back to corner, they might need 2 safeties, as all they'd have back there would be 2nd year tavon wilson and steve gregory.rt is probably the other hotspot, as we don't know what's up with fa vollmer.they've got a couple possible fill ins in the pipe, but I can't say if they'd be able to do the job every week.also, they signed guys like crazy last off-season, so it's not like all of this needs to come from the draft, and you never know what they might scrounge in the 7th or as udfa.it's pretty hard to blame the defense for all our troubles when the 'unstoppable' offense scores 13 points, and while gronk will be back next year, so will love and jones, with 5 or 6 guys on defense coming off their rookie year.
 
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I think I might be way off on Sharrif Floyd. Sounds like he could be considered in the top half of the 1st.
According to CBS the DTs are ranked like this right now:
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9	Star Lotulelei	DT	1	Utah	Sr	6-3	320	110	*Sheldon Richardson	DT	2	Missouri	rJr	6-3	295	122	*Johnathan Hankins	DT	3	Ohio State	Jr	6-3	320	124	Jesse Williams	DT	4	Alabama	Sr	6-3	320	1[b]26	*Sharrif Floyd	DT	5	Florida	Jr	6-3	303	1-2[/b]36	John Jenkins	DT	6	Georgia	Sr	6-4	359	1-246	Kawann Short	DT	7	Purdue	rSr	6-3	308	274	Sylvester Williams	DT	8	North Carolina	Sr	6-3	313	2-389	*Akeem Spence	DT	9	Illinois	rJr	6-1	305	3100	Brandon Williams	DT	10	Missouri Southern State	rSr	6-2	341	3-4
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings/2013/DT26th overall and the 5th DT on their board.I do like him but if the Vikings look at DT in the 2nd round they will more likely be looking at Sylvester Williams or perhaps somewhere else.2nd round seems like a good spot to get WR. The DT will be picked over by then.
 
'Andy Dufresne said:
1. Kansas City - Star Lotulelei DT, - Utah Reid has stated they'll stick with the 3-4. The GM has come out and said they'll take BPA. Jackson and Dorsey aren't very good. The math adds up.2. Jacksonville - Bjoern Werner, DE - Florida State Jags had the fewest sack in the league last year.3. Oakland - Damontre Moore, DE - Texas A&M2nd to Jacksonville in sacks. Opinions on Moore are varied. Some see him this high, others as a 2nd rounder.4. Philadelphia - Luke Joeckel, OT - Texas A&MWho knows if Peters will be able to come back from injury?5. Detroit - Eric Fisher, OT - Central Michigan They need to get some turnover on the line and protect their fragile but talented Qb.
I think its time to start taking a peek at the draft and a very good mock for Jan.I am still a bit unsure of the top five whereas last year it seemed pretty easy to make that projection.The big question is whether or not a QB will emerge from the pack to tempt KC. Its happened many times in the past and even last year it seemed like Miami was over a barrell and took Tannenhill before many other teams had him projected to go due to need. The year previous it happened with Jake Locker and Christian Ponder, the year before that Tebow seemed like a reach albeit much later in the first round, and then in 2009 the Jets moved up to take Mark Sanchez so we've seen how QBs seem to get pushed up due to need. The guy I've seen consistently ranked as the top player from this draft is OT Luke Joeckel but KC has Brandon Albert and he's solid so the top pick is really hard to figure out.I would agree that Star Lotulelei at the top is hard to swallow but he's got a really high rating and if no QB gets puches it looks like Stat could be thee guy by default. Yuck.If Star is the top pick then I really like how you have the other guys falling in place 2 thru 5 but I can see CB Dee Miller going to Detroit or Philly shocking everyone by taking a QB if Chip Kelly thinks their is a guy who is a good fit for his system.
 
'Andy Dufresne said:
5. Detroit - Eric Fisher, OT - Central Michigan They need to get some turnover on the line and protect their fragile but talented Qb. 36. Detroit - Terrance Williams, WR - Baylor
That start would be as sweet as a virgin's honeypot for the Lions. Fisher is legit.
 
Kansas City....depending on what happens with Branden Albert...free agent....I think Joeckel is in the conversation for #1....he may be the BPA in this draft...even if Albert is signed I still think they may take a strong look at him...

 
'Andy Dufresne said:
1. Kansas City - Star Lotulelei DT, - Utah

Reid has stated they'll stick with the 3-4. The GM has come out and said they'll take BPA. Jackson and Dorsey aren't very good. The math adds up.

2. Jacksonville - Bjoern Werner, DE - Florida State

Jags had the fewest sack in the league last year.

3. Oakland - Damontre Moore, DE - Texas A&M

2nd to Jacksonville in sacks. Opinions on Moore are varied. Some see him this high, others as a 2nd rounder.

4. Philadelphia - Luke Joeckel, OT - Texas A&M

Who knows if Peters will be able to come back from injury?

5. Detroit - Eric Fisher, OT - Central Michigan

They need to get some turnover on the line and protect their fragile but talented Qb.
I think its time to start taking a peek at the draft and a very good mock for Jan.I am still a bit unsure of the top five whereas last year it seemed pretty easy to make that projection.

The big question is whether or not a QB will emerge from the pack to tempt KC. Its happened many times in the past and even last year it seemed like Miami was over a barrell and took Tannenhill before many other teams had him projected to go due to need. The year previous it happened with Jake Locker and Christian Ponder, the year before that Tebow seemed like a reach albeit much later in the first round, and then in 2009 the Jets moved up to take Mark Sanchez so we've seen how QBs seem to get pushed up due to need.

The guy I've seen consistently ranked as the top player from this draft is OT Luke Joeckel but KC has Brandon Albert and he's solid so the top pick is really hard to figure out.

I would agree that Star Lotulelei at the top is hard to swallow but he's got a really high rating and if no QB gets puches it looks like Stat could be thee guy by default. Yuck.

If Star is the top pick then I really like how you have the other guys falling in place 2 thru 5 but I can see CB Dee Miller going to Detroit or Philly shocking everyone by taking a QB if Chip Kelly thinks their is a guy who is a good fit for his system.
Albert is a free agent.......
 
25. Seattle - Ezekiel Ansah, DE - BYU 56. Seattle - Markus Wheaton, WR - Oregon St.That would be a dream come true and I think you are pretty accurate as far as the positions they are going to be looking at.

 
'Andy Dufresne said:
'Raiderfan32904 said:
No way does Joeckel slip past #3. This would be ideal because the Raiders would have multiple trade offers on the table if that were the case. Actually I am hoping your mock is right. :thumbup:
Congratulations. You're first.
:excited: Oh goody! what'd I win? what'd I win?

 
'Andy Dufresne said:
1. Kansas City - Star Lotulelei DT, - Utah

Reid has stated they'll stick with the 3-4. The GM has come out and said they'll take BPA. Jackson and Dorsey aren't very good. The math adds up.

2. Jacksonville - Bjoern Werner, DE - Florida State

Jags had the fewest sack in the league last year.

3. Oakland - Damontre Moore, DE - Texas A&M

2nd to Jacksonville in sacks. Opinions on Moore are varied. Some see him this high, others as a 2nd rounder.

4. Philadelphia - Luke Joeckel, OT - Texas A&M

Who knows if Peters will be able to come back from injury?

5. Detroit - Eric Fisher, OT - Central Michigan

They need to get some turnover on the line and protect their fragile but talented Qb.
I think its time to start taking a peek at the draft and a very good mock for Jan.I am still a bit unsure of the top five whereas last year it seemed pretty easy to make that projection.

The big question is whether or not a QB will emerge from the pack to tempt KC. Its happened many times in the past and even last year it seemed like Miami was over a barrell and took Tannenhill before many other teams had him projected to go due to need. The year previous it happened with Jake Locker and Christian Ponder, the year before that Tebow seemed like a reach albeit much later in the first round, and then in 2009 the Jets moved up to take Mark Sanchez so we've seen how QBs seem to get pushed up due to need.

The guy I've seen consistently ranked as the top player from this draft is OT Luke Joeckel but KC has Brandon Albert and he's solid so the top pick is really hard to figure out.

I would agree that Star Lotulelei at the top is hard to swallow but he's got a really high rating and if no QB gets puches it looks like Stat could be thee guy by default. Yuck.

If Star is the top pick then I really like how you have the other guys falling in place 2 thru 5 but I can see CB Dee Miller going to Detroit or Philly shocking everyone by taking a QB if Chip Kelly thinks their is a guy who is a good fit for his system.
Albert is a free agent.......
I've seen this but the logic that KC would create a hole on their team by not-signing Brandon Albert just so they can blow their top pick to fill that hole with Luke Joeckel makes no sense to me. Why would a team purposely create a hole on their team instead of resigning the player and ACTUALLY ADDING MORE TALENT TO THEIR TEAM?

To create a hole and then come away with the top pick in the draft NO BETTER than how you came into the draft makes zero sense to me.

KC's biggest hole on their team is at quarterback, its not even close in terms of need and impact.

This is my very early and probably very innacurate top-five projection of the NFL draft:

1. Kansas City - QB Mike Glennon - North Carolina State

Its happened time and time again where a QB rises up the ranks and get taken first. I think Glennon is a very interesting guy. He’s getting solid ups for his work at the Senior Bowl and is turning heads. Pretty early to call this one but I’m going out there and have him leaping over the more well known names such as Matt Barkley and Tyler Wilson and Geno Smith.

2. Jacksonville - DE Bjoern Werner- Florida State

Love this kid and he’s a great fit for the Jags.

3. Oakland - OT Luke Joeckel - Texas A&M

BPA and their left tackle Jared Veldheer is huge ( 6' 8", 321 lbs) and young (only 25 yrs old) and their right tackle is decent in Kalif Barnes so this may not be a dire need but it makes sense because its an upgrade and a long term upgrade.

4. Philadelphia - QB Geno Smith - West Virginia

Top three picks last year were all on defense. Two of the top three were defenders in 2011 and the top five were all on defense in 2010. The Eagles have Foles but they broke the bank to get Chip Kelly and his offensive system. Chip Kelly needs a guy to run his system. They’ve got all of the other skill positions in place and I think they’ve devoted a heck of a lot of draft ordinance to the defense and quite frankly last year’s defensive collapse was widely seen as a coaching issue so they have talent on that side of the ball, it just needs to get coached up but Chip Kelly doesn’t have a guy to run his offense so Geno seems like the proper fit to me.

5. Detroit - CB Dee Milliner - Alabama

Its been a broken record of the defensive backs in Detroit being a problem. A big solid CB could do wonders to change that tune.

 
'Deranged Hermit said:
Some interesting picks. I'll comment on the teams I follow: I have a hard time seeing T'eo dropping to MIN. With Urlacher possibly gone, I think CHI be a good spot for him as long as no OL prospects grade out high enough at the pick. I do agree TE is a need though, just not sure they'll take one in the 1st.I gotta believe that'd be a dream first two picks for the Eagles.
I almost left Teo out completely becuase of how crazy the whole thing is. But in the end, he's still a pretty good player and I think the situation will be chalked up to extreme gullibility. And Vikes GM Spielman loves his Golden Domers.
I think Lacey would fall into the Brandon Jacobs roster void area. A Lacey pick would, IMO, tell me that Gore is gone, or Hunter is not healthy. Do you see Lacey as the BPA?
Gore will soon be gone even though he's still playing lights out. Yes, Lacy is a bit of BPA there. Who would have thought the 49ers would take Jenkins?
Jenkins, no. WR position, hell yes. That was our biggest position of need.
 
I came across this when doing some research on the 2013 rookie crop. These are rankings made April 30th so just after the 2012 draft was completed.

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1. Matt Barkley, QB, USC (6-2, 230)While he might get knocked for his overall lack of height — he is generously listed at 6-2 — there is no better passer of the football than Barkley. He is the picture-perfect face of a franchise off the field and in the locker room. Barring a horrific injury, the Trojans will once again have a quarterback selected at No. 12. Sam Montgomery, DE, LSU (6-4, 245)*As only a redshirt sophomoe, Montgomery landed on multiple All-American teams after leading his team to the SEC title. He is a freakish off-the-edge prospect who will be a premiere pass rusher this fall for LSU. The Tigers' leading sackmaster (9.0) also posted 49 tackles and 13.5 tackles for a loss in 2011.3. Robert Woods, WR, USC (6-1, 190)*He may not have the freakish measurables of Megatron or Larry Fitzgerald, but there is no more explosive (draft eligible) wide receiver in the nation. He already owns multiple USC and Pac-12 receiving records and is only a junior. In two years, he has 176 catches, 2,084 yards, 21 touchdowns and is a dangerous return man as well.4. Jarvis Jones, OLB, Georgia (6-3, 241)*This do-everything hybrid was a Butkus finalist a year ago after leading the SEC with 13.5 sacks. The former USC transfer found a home in Todd Grantham's NFL-style 3-4 scheme and is poised for another huge season blitzing the passer. He is the most talented, most explosive hybrid player in this class as of today.5. Marcus Lattimore, RB, South Carolina (6-0, 220)*There is a running back who stands above all on the college gridiron and his last name is Lattimore. There is no more talented, no more complete player at this position than this Gamecock. He is the only "first round" back in the college game today as it takes a truly special talent to deserve a first-round pick. If he can prove this year that the ACL injury was simply a one-time thing, he will easily be the top back off the board next fall.6. Tyler Bray, QB, Tennessee (6-6, 213)*He has the NFL frame. He has the NFL arm. He simply needs to mature into the leader Vols fans need this fall to land in the first round. He can make every throw on the field and was on pace to challenge some Tennessee school records (1,328 yards and 14 TDs in four games) before breaking his thumb last fall. Should he stay healthy and lead Big Orange nation to a bowl game, he will grade out higher than names like Jones, Wilson, Smith or Thomas.7. David Amerson, CB, NC State (6-2, 194)*This guy is the complete package: Length, height, speed, instincts, play-making ability and scheme versatility. He led the nation with 13 interceptions last fall, and while he shouldn't come close to that number in 2012, he is all but locked in as the top coverman in next year's draft.8. Alex Okafor, DE, Texas (6-4, 260)Enters his senior season with 21 starts under his belt and there simply aren't many players with his skill set. He is powerful, athletic, quick and productive. He can play the run with ease on early downs and will terrorize passers on third down. A tireless worker, Okafor is a sure-fire first-rounder next fall.9. Keenan Allen, WR, Cal (6-3, 206)*This is a freakish athlete. The No. 1 player in the nation at his position as a recruit has lived up to the hype at Cal. He brings elite speed, agility, ball skills, competitive edge and leaping ability. Do yourself a favor and watch No. 21 for Cal — jaw-dropping is the only word that comes to mind when watching him play. He has 135 catches for 1,751 yards and 11 scores in only 19 starts.10. Ricky Wagner, OT, Wisconsin (6-6, 322)Gabe Carimi, Kevin Zeitler, Peter Konz, John Moffitt, Kraig Urbik, and Bill Nagy are the Badgers' offensive lineman who have been drafted since 2009. Wagner is the next in a long line of bookend tackles from Madison.11. Jackson Jeffcoat, DE, Texas (6-5, 250)*The son of NFLer Jim Jeffcoat, Jackson exhibits extreme polish and high football IQ for a player of his age. In his first full season as the starter, he posted 54 tackles, 16.5 tackles for a loss and 7.5 sacks as only a sophomore. He and Okafor should give Texas the top defense in the Big 12. 12. Corey Lemonier, DE, Auburn (6-4, 240)*An elite recruit coming out of high school, Lemonier broke out on a bad defense as only a sophomore. He posted 13.5 tackles for a loss and 9.5 sacks and forced five fumbles. He can get to the passer in a hurry and NFL scouts will love his measurables. He should fit extremely well into new coordinator Brian VanGorder's NFL scheme, which should only help his draft stock.13. Manti Te'o, LB, Notre Dame (6-2, 255)This position, like safety or guard, generally isn't a top ten overall position. But Te'o is the best option in this class and he will likely finish his career with incredible statistics. He has the sideline-to-sideline ability needed to stay on the field all three downs and is a natural leader. A truly great year in South Bend will solidify Te'o as this class' top linebacker.14. Barrett Jones, OL, Alabama (6-5, 302)Jones has been an All-SEC-type performer at literally every position on the offensive line. He has already excelled as a guard, won the Outland Trophy at left tackle and will be an All-American candidate at center this season. While he won't get drafted this highly if he lands at guard or center, he could go even higher if he eventually projects as a tackle. There may not be a better all-around football player in the nation than Jones this fall.15. Tony Jefferson, S, Oklahoma (5-10, 200)*This stellar athlete has played a hybrid S/OLB role for the first two years of his career in Norman. Now, with new coordinators Tim Kish and Mike Stoops calling the shots, scouts should expect a huge season from the Sooners safety. He is a freakish athlete who has as much range as any player in the nation. He is physical, a leader and simply makes plays. He has six interceptions, 6.5 sacks, 139 total tackles and 14.5 tackles for a loss — as a defensive back. Expect huge things from Jefferson this fall.16. Geno Smith, QB, West Virginia (6-3, 215)The first thing scouts will notice about Smith will be his arm. He has a massive arm that is lightning quick and powerful enough to make every throw. He has the size to grade out as a first-rounder and has been incredibly productive in the same system that just produced Brandon Weeden. He will likely break most major West Virginia passing records this season.17. Johnathan Hankins, DT, Ohio State (6-4, 317)*As only a sophomore, Hankins emerged as one of the Buckeyes' most talented D-Liners. The massive tackle was all over the field with 67 tackles, 11 tackles for a loss and three sacks last fall. Hankins will be the first of many Urban Meyer first-round defensive lineman, something he was known for at Florida. This big fella will be one of two potential OSU first-round defensive lineman, along with John Simon, in next year's draft. This is one stock that could sky-rocket over the next six months.18. D.J. Fluker, OT, Alabama (6-6, 335)*The measurables are off the charts for big Fluker. He will need to prove his talents this season and he will get knocked for playing alongside so many talented blockers. But he will wow scouts at the combine and his team is a lock for success in 2012. There is still much to be proven for Fluker, but his raw talents are obvious.19. T.J. McDonald, S, USC (6-3, 205)The long-time stabilizing force of the Trojan defense will finally have to depart USC's secondary after 2012. But his resume, after enduring two sanction-riddled seasons, should be as complete as possible (especially, if USC plays for the national title). He has the size, physicality, speed, intangibles and statistics. He has posted 146 tackles and six interceptions over the last two seasons.20. Tyler Wilson, QB, Arkansas (6-3, 220)In his first season as the starter, Wilson finished second in the SEC in passing efficiency and posted an incredible 24:6 touchdown-to-interception rate. He has a solid arm, solid size and solid all-around skill set for the next level. However, he needs to prove his talents against the best defenses college has to offer — LSU and Alabama. He threw for 196.0 yards per game, with two touchdowns and two interceptions in the Razorbacks' 77-31 combined losses to the Tigers and Tide last year. He has the skills needed to succeed in the NFL, but proving his mettle without Bobby Petrino on the sideline will go a long way to securing a first round pick.21. Star Lotulelei, DT, Utah (6-4, 325)This monstrosity is one name that could land in the top ten with a soild year in Salt Lake City. He claimed the Morris Trophy, given to the Pac-12's top defensive lineman, a year ago after collecting 44 tackles and 9.0 tackles for a loss. He is impossible to double team and can play in either a 4-3 or 3-4 scheme.22. Barkevious Mingo, OLB/DE, LSU (6-5, 240)*Mingo doesn't get the same pub his teammate Montgomery gets, but his talents aren't too far behind. He is a bit bigger than Montgomery but not quite as explosive. Otherwise, their skill sets are very similar. He has the ability to play in a 3-4 as that coveted hybrid OLB/DE position. He won't have the same grade as the best player at his position (Jarvis Jones) but has first-round talent.23. John Simon, DE, Ohio State (6-2, 260)He is a bit undersized and will likely have to play outisde rush backer in a 3-4 or a more traditional end role in a 4-3. But there may not be a stronger player in this draft than Simon. He is an extremely physical, powerful player whose motor never shuts off. He is an all-around football player who should play a long time in the NFL.24. Johnthan Banks, CB, Mississippi State (6-2, 185)Banks, like Amerson, has excellent size and toughness for the cornerback position. He is a sure tackler, has excellent open space agility and led his team in interceptions a year ago with five. He posted eight tackles for a loss, a rarity for a coverman.25. Eric Reid, S, LSU (6-2, 210)*This superstar not only made the biggest play of the regular season last year but has more superior athletic ability than nearly every player at his position. He is a monster factor at the backend of the Bayou defense as he led this loaded roster in tackles a year ago (76). He has the size, speed, range, instincts and tackling skill to easily land in the first round.26. Johnny Adams, CB, Michigan State (5-11, 175)A fixture in the Spartans' Big Ten-leading defense, Adams has played in 42 games and started 28 before the start of his final season. His has adequate size, is extremely well coached, and, as corners have risen into the first round more often of late, should hear his name called in round one next spring.27. Matt Elam, S, Florida (5-10, 210)*This electric athlete was a well-known commodity as a high schooler when he came to Florida as the top safety prospect in the nation. He emerged as a sophomore as the Gators' team leader in tackles for a loss (11.0), forced fumbles (2) and pass breakups (7). With a good year under former safety Will Muschamp, it will be hard to keep him out of the first round.28. Oday Aboushi, OL, Virginia (6-6, 310)Mike London has reestablished the UVa brand name in football circles and Aboushi, with another stellar season along the line, will hear his name called very early in the 2013 draft. He will be packaged with fellow NFL prospect Morgan Moses on one of the ACC's top blocking units in 2012.29. Devin Taylor, DE, South Carolina (6-8, 267)His measurables are off the charts (if not a bit overzealous on the official school site), and the NFL scouts will love him when he gets to the combine. He is a play-maker with ideal size for the NFL defensive line. He has started 32 games in the SEC heading into his final year and has 15.5 career sacks.30. Alex Hurst, OT, LSU (6-6, 340)This big fella will lead what could be the natin's best team in 2012. He has the size, coaching, experience and overall athleticism to be a first-round pick. He should finish his career with nearly 50 games of experience and potentially 36 starts against the best NCAA football defensive lines have to offer in the SEC.31. Kwame Geathers, DT, Georgia (6-6, 350)*He is huge. He is powerful. He plays for an NFL 3-4 scheme. Geathers could easily find his way into the top ten if he plays as well as expected this fall. He will be one of the country's biggest prospects at 6-6 and 350 pounds. He is immovable at times and NFL scouts tend to like that. Fellow tackle John Jenkins might also be good enough to play his way onto this list as well. Good luck trying to move the interior of the UGA line this fall.32. Tyrann Mathieu, CB, LSU (5-9, 175)*The Honey Bagder is one of the more controversial propects in the nation. He is small. He isn't a truly great coverman. But he makes big plays on special teams and plays extremely hard. It will be very interesting to see if he lands in the first round.The Best of the Rest:33. Tyler Eifert, TE, Notre Dame34. Kawann Short, DT, Purdue35. Marquess Wilson, WR, Washington State*36. Jelani Jenkins, LB, Florida*37. Khaled Holmes, C, USC38. Montee Ball, RB, Wisconsin39. Ray-Ray Armstrong, S, Miami40. Justin Hunter, WR, Tennessee*41. Jonathan Cooper, OG, North Carolina42. Alvin Bailey, OG, Arkansas*43. Landry Jones, QB, Oklahoma44. Joseph Fauria, TE, UCLA45. Sean Porter, OLB, Texas A&M46. Tavon Austin, WR, West Virginia47. Taylor Lewan, OT, Michigan48. Jake Matthews, OT, Texas A&M49. Jordan Poyer, CB, Oregon State50. Dion Jordan, DE, Oregon
http://www.athlonsports.com/college-football/early-2013-nfl-draft-rankingsHere is CBS top 50:
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1	*Luke Joeckel	OT	1	Texas A&M	Jr	6-6	310	12	*Bjoern Werner	DE	1	Florida State	Jr	6-4	256	13	Chance Warmack	OG	1	Alabama	Sr	6-2	322	14	*Damontre Moore	DE	2	Texas A&M	Jr	6-4	250	15	*Dee Milliner	CB	1	Alabama	Jr	6-1	198	16	Eric Fisher	OT	2	Central Michigan	Sr	6-7	305	17	*Jarvis Jones	OLB	1	Georgia	rJr	6-2	242	18	*Barkevious Mingo	DE	3	LSU	rJr	6-4	240	19	Star Lotulelei	DT	1	Utah	Sr	6-3	320	110	*Sheldon Richardson	DT	2	Missouri	rJr	6-3	295	111	Lane Johnson	OT	3	Oklahoma	Sr	6-6	302	112	*Keenan Allen	WR	1	California	Jr	6-3	210	113	Kenny Vaccaro	FS	1	Texas	Sr	6-1	218	114	Geno Smith	QB	1	West Virginia	Sr	6-3	220	115	Dion Jordan	DE	4	Oregon	rSr	6-6	243	116	Jonathan Cooper	OG	2	North Carolina	rSr	6-3	310	117	*Sam Montgomery	DE	5	LSU	rJr	6-5	260	118	*Xavier Rhodes	CB	2	Florida State	rJr	6-1	217	119	Matt Barkley	QB	2	Southern California	Sr	6-2	230	120	*Cordarrelle Patterson	WR	2	Tennessee	Jr	6-3	205	121	Ezekiel Ansah	DE	6	Brigham Young	Sr	6-5	270	122	*Johnathan Hankins	DT	3	Ohio State	Jr	6-3	320	123	*Alec Ogletree	OLB	2	Georgia	Jr	6-3	234	124	Jesse Williams	DT	4	Alabama	Sr	6-3	320	125	*Zach Ertz	TE	1	Stanford	rJr	6-6	252	126	*Sharrif Floyd	DT	5	Florida	Jr	6-3	303	1-227	Alex Okafor	DE	7	Texas	Sr	6-5	261	1-228	*D.J. Fluker	OT	4	Alabama	rJr	6-5	355	1-229	Datone Jones	DE	8	UCLA	rSr	6-4	280	1-230	Tyler Wilson	QB	3	Arkansas	rSr	6-2	218	1-231	*Kevin Minter	ILB	1	LSU	rJr	6-1	245	1-232	Mike Glennon	QB	4	North Carolina State	rSr	6-7	220	1-233	Manti Te'o	ILB	2	Notre Dame	Sr	6-2	255	1-234	*DeAndre Hopkins	WR	3	Clemson	Jr	6-1	200	1-235	Johnthan Banks	CB	3	Mississippi State	Sr	6-1	185	1-236	John Jenkins	DT	6	Georgia	Sr	6-4	359	1-237	Tavon Austin	WR	4	West Virginia	Sr	5-09	175	1-238	*Tyler Eifert	TE	2	Notre Dame	rJr	6-5	252	1-239	*Robert Woods	WR	5	Southern California	Jr	6-1	190	1-240	*Eric Reid	FS	2	LSU	Jr	6-2	212	1-241	Margus Hunt	DE	9	Southern Methodist	rSr	6-8	277	242	*Matt Elam	SS	1	Florida	Jr	5-10	202	243	*Eddie Lacy	RB	1	Alabama	rJr	5-10	220	244	Oday Aboushi	OT	5	Virginia	Sr	6-5	310	245	Ryan Nassib	QB	5	Syracuse	rSr	6-2	223	246	Kawann Short	DT	7	Purdue	rSr	6-3	308	247	Barrett Jones	C	1	Alabama	rSr	6-4	305	248	Jordan Poyer	CB	4	Oregon State	Sr	6-0	182	249	*Justin Pugh	OT	6	Syracuse	rJr	6-5	301	250	Kyle Long	OT	7	Oregon	Sr	6-6	304	2
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings/2013/allNow obviously the more recent CBS rankings are better as they are based more on how players performed in the most recent college season. However I do like to look at which players were ranked highly the previous year and then look at the players who are on both lists. This tells me which players have been consistently rated highly and which players improved on their rankings with more recent play.I am wondering why Tyler Bray fell from 6th overall to out of the top 50? CBS has Bray ranked 58th overall.Marcus Lattimore is injured so that explains why people are not ranking him right now. However he was ranked top 5 before the injury. As Goat Herders was suggesting in another thread he may be the best RB in this draft class who will fall to later in the draft because of the injury. If Lattimore is drafted in the 1st round even while injured it could be a McGahee type situation. I doubt Lattimore is the 1st RB taken but what if he is?Woods was ranked top 3 in the early mock and the only knock on this guy I hear is that his team mate Lee is a better WR than Woods is. Seems like very nice value at 39.Sam Montgomery was the top rated pass rusher in the early mock. CBS has him at 29 now and 7th DE overall.David Amerson who was ranked 7th in the early mock is now 68th in the CBS mock.Now I trust CBS a lot more than Anthon. I just think it is interesting to look at who was ranked highly and then fell as there may be some very good value there. Or there may be very good reasons why these players have fallen that I am not aware of. Particularly for the above players.
 
'Andy Dufresne said:
28. Denver - Jesse Williams, DT - Alabama58. Denver - Jordan Poyer, CB - Oregon St.
:thumbup: Would like to see Minter somehow make it to Denver at 28, but I'll trust Williams is a decent consolation prize esp considering team needs. I'm not so sure Poyer makes it to 58, but if he's there it could be an easy pick.
 
'Andy Dufresne said:
I take it as a given that Packer and Cowboy fans will inevitably disagree with whatever player I choose for their team. :lol:
Well, when you manage to make a decent prediction.....I Joke, I Joke! It's a decent take. Personally I think the Pack go DT for the line - they have to replace PickettAnd then it's the MLB that is the big need. So the first two rounds will be 1 of each or two MLBI could see going RB early, but I doubt it.Somewhere along the line they will take a WR with both Jennings and Driver gone. I could see another TE, especially if JFin is cut loose.
 

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