More Americans would vote for a Muslim than for an atheist (1 Viewer)

[timschochet]

http://www.gallup.com/poll/155285/Atheists-Muslims-Bias-Presidential-Candidates.aspx

Only 54% of Americans would vote for a atheist for President.

58% would vote for a Muslim.

68% would vote for a gay or a lesbian.

Maybe this is an improvement? But it's still stunning to me that atheists are at the bottom of the list, even below Muslims.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

I don't blame them. Without a sociopathic, abusive, baby murdering, rape and slavery sympathizing god to follow the example of, how can one have morals?

 

[jon_mx]

Where do transgendered former-Olympians rank?

 

[Henry Ford]

Where do transgendered former-Olympians rank?

The only one I know of ranked first in the decathlon.

 

[jon_mx]

I don't blame them. Without a sociopathic, abusive, baby murdering, rape and slavery sympathizing god to follow the example of, how can one have morals?

Yeah. That is the winning campaign right there that explains the poll.

 

[rockaction]

This is from 2012.

Also, more Republicans would vote for an atheist than they would a Muslim, 48-47 or something like that, which are both levels that are ten points below Democrats or Independents.

 

[urbanhack]

you are obsessed with polling and poll numbers.

 

[Scoresman]

Kick the South out of the union.

 

[timschochet]

you are obsessed with polling and poll numbers.

And?

 

[Buckfast 1]

I take some solace in knowing that the American public recently elected an atheist to two terms in office, although I'm dismayed that Obama had to put up a religious charade to do so.

 

[Godsbrother]

That's okay cause I wouldn't vote for a president to be an atheist either.

 

[Fennis]

I take some solace in knowing that the American public recently elected a Muslim to two terms in office, although I'm dismayed that Obama had to put up a Christian charade to do so.

 

[Harris]

dont you have your own thread for this kind of drivel?

 

[IvanKaramazov]

I take some solace in knowing that the American public recently elected a Muslim to two terms in office, although I'm dismayed that Obama had to put up a Christian charade to do so.

I came in here to make a joke along these lines. Too slow. :(

 

[Cjw_55106]

you are obsessed with polling and poll numbers.

And?

Polls are worthless.

 

[The General]

By my calculations this means a Lesbian Muslim is pretty much a lock.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Do I laugh or cry that Catholics and Jewish are lumped in with blacks, hispanics and women, and roughly the same numbers - 4-6% - would not vote for same for president. These must be the same people saying 'no' to all of the above.

 

[timschochet]

I don't think I could vote for a Scientologist.

 

[sublimeone]

Atheists are more annoying

 

[TripItUp]

murica!!

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

So uh Romney was Mormon, right? The number for Mormons is 18%. Does that mean that prejudice / discrimination kept Romney out of the White House?

 

[TripItUp]

So uh Romney was Mormon, right? The number for Mormons is 18%. Does that mean that prejudice / discrimination kept Romney out of the White House?

you better believe it was a huge factor.

Best Republican candidate in our lifetime...that includes Reagan.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

I take some solace in knowing that the American public recently elected an atheist to two terms in office, although I'm dismayed that Obama had to put up a religious charade to do so.

True but he had enough on his plate just being black and the antichrist.

 

[Jayrod]

I don't blame them. Without a sociopathic, abusive, baby murdering, rape and slavery sympathizing god to follow the example of, how can one have morals?

Bing!! Right out of the gate!

 

[roadkill1292]

So uh Romney was Mormon, right? The number for Mormons is 18%. Does that mean that prejudice / discrimination kept Romney out of the White House?

you better believe it was a huge factor.

Best Republican candidate in our lifetime...that includes Reagan.

Low bar there.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

I don't blame them. Without a sociopathic, abusive, baby murdering, rape and slavery sympathizing god to follow the example of, how can one have morals?

Bing!! Right out of the gate!

Is he wrong?

 

[Jayrod]

I don't blame them. Without a sociopathic, abusive, baby murdering, rape and slavery sympathizing god to follow the example of, how can one have morals?

Bing!! Right out of the gate!

Is he wrong?

Yes. But you already knew that.

 

[TripItUp]

So uh Romney was Mormon, right? The number for Mormons is 18%. Does that mean that prejudice / discrimination kept Romney out of the White House?

you better believe it was a huge factor.

Best Republican candidate in our lifetime...that includes Reagan.

Low bar there.

No argument there.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

I don't blame them. Without a sociopathic, abusive, baby murdering, rape and slavery sympathizing god to follow the example of, how can one have morals?

Bing!! Right out of the gate!

Is he wrong?

Yes. But you already knew that.

Well he is wrong since there really isn't a god.

BUT all of those traits have been ascribed to "God" over the years. Don't blame me or other atheists. Blame the people that wrote the holy books.

 

[Jayrod]

I don't blame them. Without a sociopathic, abusive, baby murdering, rape and slavery sympathizing god to follow the example of, how can one have morals?

Bing!! Right out of the gate!

Is he wrong?

Yes. But you already knew that.

Well he is wrong since there really isn't a god.

BUT all of those traits have been ascribed to "God" over the years. Don't blame me or other atheists. Blame the people that wrote the holy books.

You seem like a smart guy for the most part. I know you like to poke fun and get a rise out of people, so maybe that's all this is, but if you use your brain a little on this subject you may understand it a bit better.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

What about the victims in Charleston? Any thoughts on their placing their faith in God?

 

[EYLive]

I thought you had your own thread to post this kind of crap. Why are you out of your pen?

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

I don't blame them. Without a sociopathic, abusive, baby murdering, rape and slavery sympathizing god to follow the example of, how can one have morals?

Bing!! Right out of the gate!

Is he wrong?

Yes. But you already knew that.

Well he is wrong since there really isn't a god.

BUT all of those traits have been ascribed to "God" over the years. Don't blame me or other atheists. Blame the people that wrote the holy books.

You seem like a smart guy for the most part. I know you like to poke fun and get a rise out of people, so maybe that's all this is, but if you use your brain a little on this subject you may understand it a bit better.

 

[Jayrod]

What about the victims in Charleston? Any thoughts on their placing their faith in God?

They are likely in heaven with God. I'm super stoked they had their faith in God.

 

[EYLive]

I don't blame them. Without a sociopathic, abusive, baby murdering, rape and slavery sympathizing god to follow the example of, how can one have morals?

So much anger.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

What about the victims in Charleston? Any thoughts on their placing their faith in God?

They are likely in heaven with God. I'm super stoked they had their faith in God.

Right. They were also the best that America has to offer, people talk about income inequality, we look at the riots in Baltimore and Ferguson, and here we have 9 Americans who happen to be black, and they were professional, educated, loving, loved, just what we want Americans to be. Sorry, Tim speaks of Pres. Obama and what he did getting elected, these nine were the black American experience and they found their way out of the turmoil that their prior generations had been through through religion. I'm guessing they would not agree with this. Their lives possibly disprove it.

 

[Jayrod]

What about the victims in Charleston? Any thoughts on their placing their faith in God?

They are likely in heaven with God. I'm super stoked they had their faith in God.

Right. They were also the best that America has to offer, people talk about income inequality, we look at the riots in Baltimore and Ferguson, and here we have 9 Americans who happen to be black, and they were professional, educated, loving, loved, just what we want Americans to be. Sorry, Tim speaks of Pres. Obama and what he did getting elected, these nine were the black American experience and they found their way out of the turmoil that their prior generations had been through through religion. I'm guessing they would not agree with this. Their lives possibly disprove it.

Not sure I follow your stream of consciousness rant there.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

What about the victims in Charleston? Any thoughts on their placing their faith in God?

They are likely in heaven with God. I'm super stoked they had their faith in God.

Right. They were also the best that America has to offer, people talk about income inequality, we look at the riots in Baltimore and Ferguson, and here we have 9 Americans who happen to be black, and they were professional, educated, loving, loved, just what we want Americans to be. Sorry, Tim speaks of Pres. Obama and what he did getting elected, these nine were the black American experience and they found their way out of the turmoil that their prior generations had been through through religion. I'm guessing they would not agree with this. Their lives possibly disprove it.

Not sure I follow your stream of consciousness rant there.

That's ok, sorry. I should have stopped at "Right, thanks." I was just saying that religion obviously can do people a lot of good.

 

[Galileo]

The poll results you link are from 2012...here is 2015: http://www.gallup.com/poll/183713/socialist-presidential-candidates-least-appealing.aspx

Atheists are no longer at the bottom since "socialist" has been added as a category

 

[GoFishTN]

Kick the South out of the union.

NOW you want us to go.

 

[timschochet]

Jayrod, you're one of the more openly religious people in this forum. Would you hesitate to vote for an atheist, if he or she shared your political viewpoint?

 

[Jayrod]

Jayrod, you're one of the more openly religious people in this forum. Would you hesitate to vote for an atheist, if he or she shared your political viewpoint?

Since I doubt the majority of politicians are actually practicing Christians, yes. But I'd be shocked to find an open atheist who is also pro-life.

 

[timschochet]

Jayrod, you're one of the more openly religious people in this forum. Would you hesitate to vote for an atheist, if he or she shared your political viewpoint?

Since I doubt the majority of politicians are actually practicing Christians, yes. But I'd be shocked to find an open atheist who is also pro-life.

That's interesting. I've never thought of it before, but I don't know why an atheist couldn't be pro-life.

 

[timschochet]

I just googled it and came up with Pro-Life Humanism.org:

http://www.prolifehumanists.org/

So yeah, I guess they're out there.

 

[Jayrod]

Jayrod, you're one of the more openly religious people in this forum. Would you hesitate to vote for an atheist, if he or she shared your political viewpoint?

Since I doubt the majority of politicians are actually practicing Christians, yes. But I'd be shocked to find an open atheist who is also pro-life.

That's interesting. I've never thought of it before, but I don't know why an atheist couldn't be pro-life.

I guess, I see atheism is generally a liberal mindset and that goes hand in hand with being pro-choice...usually.

 

[Jayrod]

I just googled it and came up with Pro-Life Humanism.org:

http://www.prolifehumanists.org/

So yeah, I guess they're out there.

huh

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Jayrod, you're one of the more openly religious people in this forum. Would you hesitate to vote for an atheist, if he or she shared your political viewpoint?

Since I doubt the majority of politicians are actually practicing Christians, yes. But I'd be shocked to find an open atheist who is also pro-life.

That's interesting. I've never thought of it before, but I don't know why an atheist couldn't be pro-life.

An atheist could be pro-life, especially if you follow Roe v Wade which states that the "quickening" is one definition of when life could be considered to begin. It's certainly reasonable.

I think an atheist could also look at a test tube with a fetus (or egg or something) and decide it would be objectionable to crush it under heel.

 

[TripItUp]

Jayrod, you're one of the more openly religious people in this forum. Would you hesitate to vote for an atheist, if he or she shared your political viewpoint?

Since I doubt the majority of politicians are actually practicing Christians, yes. But I'd be shocked to find an open atheist who is also pro-life.

That's interesting. I've never thought of it before, but I don't know why an atheist couldn't be pro-life.

I guess, I see atheism is generally a liberal mindset and that goes hand in hand with being pro-choice...usually.

I would venture to guess a large percentage of atheists are fiscally conservative, socially liberal.

This is me, except I'm agnostic.

 

[FlapJacks]

Some of the disparity may be African Americans that I'm guessing may be more tolerant of Muslims than of Atheists...

 

[FlapJacks]

The poll results you link are from 2012...here is 2015: http://www.gallup.com/poll/183713/socialist-presidential-candidates-least-appealing.aspx

Atheists are no longer at the bottom since "socialist" has been added as a category

Bernie Sanders enters the race...they add Socialist to the poll....coincidence?