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More Terrorism in France, or Something else? (1 Viewer)
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TobiasFunke
Footballguy
So your policy would be "no fundamentalists"? Is that all religions or just Muslim?
And does the fact that you can't even retrofit an immigration policy to effectively stop a particular incident tell you something?
T J
Footballguy
C'mon dude - what do you want from me? I'm not going to sit here and engage you in every "what if" you bring up. I want radicalized Muslims out. Period. That's all I've said. You take from that what you will.
bueno
In a class by himself
sho nuff
Footballguy
Ilov80s
Footballguy
I saw another report that his family member described him as a POS who was abusive to his wife, drank, smoked pot, was always in trouble and had no participation or interest in Islam. He lost his job as a trucker driver because he fell asleep at the wheel and hit a bunch of people, also was involved in a bar brawl. A lot of these ISIS attackers aren't even very religious. They are just demented, angry, bitter and violent people. I still content that the closest comp to ISIS are Latin drug cartels. They are young criminal delinquents looking easy money, thrills and suffer from serious bloodlust.badmojo1006 said:
Captain Cranks
Footballguy
This is key. Everyone wants "radicalized" Muslims out of this country. It's identifying them and extracting them that's the problem.sho nuff said:
FishTacoTuesday
Footballguy
I think I would support stripping any American of their citizenship who has left the country and now is waging war against us.
But any thought of deporting citizens who are radicalized is a silly idea (and deport to where?). We'd have to deport a quarter of Idaho and then anyone with a "Don't tread on me" bumper sticker.
There are a lot of radicalized people in this country, and an overwhelming majority of them have nothing to do with Islam.
But any thought of deporting citizens who are radicalized is a silly idea (and deport to where?). We'd have to deport a quarter of Idaho and then anyone with a "Don't tread on me" bumper sticker.
There are a lot of radicalized people in this country, and an overwhelming majority of them have nothing to do with Islam.
T J
Footballguy
No it isn't. Edit to add that I was referring to radicalized Islamists only. They are enemies of the state.
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Dinsy Ejotuz
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No but I am pretty sure someone already chimed in with "If you outlaw trucks, only outlaws will deliver your stuff"
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TobiasFunke
Footballguy
I'm guessing you've never been to the Middle East.
The people doing this stuff, and those supportive of their actions, are a very small minority of Muslims and residents of Middle Eastern countries.
It will. I'm sure there are rebels that oppose both Assad and ISIS. I don't trust us to tell the difference based on the prior support of rebels that became ISIS...bueno said:
We should still work towards a transition away from Assad, but unrealistic to expect Russia to loosen its political grip on the country...no matter what the outcome
timschochet
Footballguy
The few Muslims who are radical Islamist terrorists in this country don't exactly announce themselves...this discussion of deporting them is kind of useless. Most times we don't even know who they are until they strike.
matuski
Footballguy
This level of ignorance is mind boggling. Travel a bit, it will fix this problem for you.
The average person, anywhere in this world, wants the same things we do.
“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.”
timschochet
Footballguy
A few months back I proposed what I thought was a reasonable compromise on the issue of Syrian refugees, and last night I heard Hillary hint she might be for something like it:
for the time being, delay letting in men and women between 16 and 40- put them through a longer, more extensive screening period (even more than the one we have now!) Let in children and middle aged people especially the ones with retail business experience- store owners, etc.
for the time being, delay letting in men and women between 16 and 40- put them through a longer, more extensive screening period (even more than the one we have now!) Let in children and middle aged people especially the ones with retail business experience- store owners, etc.
ArbyMelt
Footballguy
I think I'll trust the Pew Research poll before Matuski's personal travels. The majority of muslims in the Middle east and Africa support Sharia law. I doubt that is the same things we want.
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SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
boots11234
Footballguy
Deportation is silly however so is Hillary saying last week she wants to allow 65k Syrians into the US after vetting them. There is no way to do this safely. If Trump were smart he'd just play that clip of her saying that over and over.
I I believe profiling people along with better NSA is a reasonable approach.
I I believe profiling people along with better NSA is a reasonable approach.
shadrap
Footballguy
matuski
Footballguy
A shame.. you should try talking to some muslims from the Middle East or Africa. They aren't so scary.
Give it a try before you make these stupid mistakes.
eta - that isn't to say of course that they don't have different religious beliefs. You yourself would share those beliefs had you been raised there.
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shadrap
Footballguy
The majority in the middle east support sharia as the law of the land. I don't share those arcane beliefs & I'm not a scaredy cat of Muslims. Sharia law is not even close to the principles that established this country.
The General
Footballguy
So the guy isn't a radical Muslim? Just a depressed loser?
Gary Coal Man
Footballguy
Speaking of public opinion polls, this 2014 poll of Share of people with a positive attitude toward ISIS looks downright frightening for France...
Up to 15 percent of French people said they have a positive attitude toward the Islamic State, formerly known as the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant. The share of ISIS supporters is largest among France’s younger generation, a new poll says.
Twice as many French people expressed a positive reaction to Islamic State (IS) militants than in Britain, where the number of people favorably disposed to the IS stands at 7 percent, and Germany, where a meager 2 percent of the respondents sided with the IS, according to a poll carried out in July among 1,000 people aged over 15 years (over 18 in Britain) in each country. The poll was conducted by ICM Research for the Russian news agency Rossiya Segodnya.
Broken down by age (Bar Graph), the poll looks even more frightening for France.
How's that assimilation working out?
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spider321
Footballguy
That's the liberal media's twist, but sure, you keep believing that.
The fact that Muslims commit the vast majority of mass murders in the world today is surely a coincidence, right?
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The General
Footballguy
Relax. I was just asking, been busy all day and just reading some headlines.
This is from liberal rag FOX news: French terrorist not overtly religious
Gary Coal Man
Footballguy
It must hurt you that the French Prime Minister's own words are driving the French people toward the National Front. C'est la vie!
‘Thanks, M. Valls’: Social media furious over PM’s ‘France will have to live with terrorism’ comment
Social media reacted with anger to French Prime Minister Manuel Valls’ assertion that France “will have to live with terrorism.” Users shamed the PM, saying that more people apparently need to be killed in terror attacks to wake up the French government.
Valls made the statement following the attack in Nice that killed at least 84 people and injured dozens.
“Times have changed, and France is going to have to live with terrorism, and we must face this together and show our collective sang-froid,” he said. “France is a great country and a great democracy and we will not allow ourselves to be destabilized.”
However, Valls’ assumption that “France-is-going-to-have-to-live-with-terrorism” hasn’t amused French social media, and possibly bolstered France’s reputation as a country that surrenders at the drop of a hat. Users are apparently livid, taking the PM’s remarks to mean that the French government doesn’t plan to take on the extremists, but simply call on its citizens to learn to live with the threat.
The government is “unable to protect French people,” @DamienLcc wrote on Twitter, while @lazgougeon added that the nation doesn’t have “to get used to the incompetence of our leaders!”
spider321
Footballguy
Not surprising. Fox is the only major news outlet that will present spin from both the left and the right. They do lean to the heavily to the right, but usually, the other side will be presented.
Honestly, when I first noticed your Costas pic a few weeks or so ago, I though it was as a joke; because the guy is an idiot.
Please tell me I was right.
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The General
Footballguy
Thanks for noticing my avatar, weirdo.
We are just moving past the liberal media question I suppose?
spider321
Footballguy
spider321
Footballguy
They will usually have a libtarded panel member, or guest, to present the left's spin on the news.
Rarely, does the right get any representation on MSDNC, ABC, or the other large news outlets.
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The General
Footballguy
You keep adding to your posts. Again, was asking a simple question. I have since read more about it and sounds like not much is known about this guy right now. Not sure why you are taking it this direction, you seem to be disappointed or something.
Since you are so inquisitive about my avatar, it was from when Costas had pink eye during the Olympics and they kept putting him in front of the camera grossing out the audience. My wife had pinkeye at the same time so it was funny at the time to me.
Your FOX commentary is pretty funny as well.
The General
Footballguy
Ok.
The General
Footballguy
CBS's "Face The Nation", NBC's "Meet The Press" always have conservatives on. Can't think of ABC's news shows.
MSNBC rolls out some right winger occasionally, as does FOX with a lefty. Generally, both those networks pick an oddball from the opposing side IMO.
squistion
Footballguy
Bill Maher @billmaher 50m50 minutes ago
The NRA says what happened in Nice, France could have been stopped if everyone in the crowd also had a truck
The NRA says what happened in Nice, France could have been stopped if everyone in the crowd also had a truck
dickey moe
Fingerpicker
And some lefty gets butthurt when a righty sarcastically suggests that we ban trucks.
spider321
Footballguy
sho nuff
Footballguy
FishTacoTuesday
Footballguy
:toosoon:
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
- Possibly did not act alone.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
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