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"I really feel like this is, as far as talent is concerned, the most talented team that I've been a part of as a whole," Favre said Monday morning.
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"I really feel like this is, as far as talent is concerned, the most talented team that I've been a part of as a whole," Favre said Monday morning.
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Nothing to see here. Just a Bears fan trying to stir the pot.“the most unproven, inexperienced team that I've ever played on,"
The article is priceless."I really feel like this is, as far as talent is concerned, the most talented team that I've been a part of as a whole," Favre said Monday morning.
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Hope and delusions spring eternal.Good luck Brett, enjoy the 3-13 season.GREEN BAY, Wis. -- Brett Favre hadn't yet been outside for practice, so you can't blame the following statement on the heat:
"I really feel like this is, as far as talent is concerned, the most talented team that I've been a part of as a whole," Favre said Monday morning.
Say what?
Although it might seem like a far-fetched thing to say about a Green Bay Packers team coming off a 4-12 season -- particularly coming from a guy who spent the offseason wondering whether his team would be good enough to make putting off retirement worthwhile -- Favre is gushing about the wealth of ability he sees on the practice field.
This year's team is even more talented, Favre insists, than the Packers' Super Bowl teams of the mid-1990s.
"If we can somehow put it together, there's a lot of talent out there," Favre said.
Favre said the Packers' dominant teams of the 1990s actually weren't incredibly talented, "but we were very experienced."
There lies the major caveat to Favre's suddenly simmering optimism. He says this is also the most inexperienced team he has played on, and potential doesn't mean much when the pads go on.
But if the Packers' young players, especially on the offensive line and at wide receiver, can play at a high level right away, Favre said it's realistic to expect a major turnaround.
"It can be done," Favre said. "I don't know what to expect, but if the guys play to their level or higher, anything can happen."
That's a different tone than Favre struck for much of the offseason as he waffled about his football future.
Before deciding to return, Favre wondered whether it would be worth risking another possible 4-12 season and questioned the Packers' lack of activity in the free-agent market.
The Packers' biggest offseason additions came on defense, but Favre returned anyway.
Now, Favre said the only time he second-guesses his decision to return is when he feels the wear and tear from previous seasons.
"This morning, I'm like, 'What am I doing?' " Favre said. "It feels like I've got glass in my shoes. But I know from experience, even though every time we practice and every time we play and every season it may get a little worse, once I get on the field, it seems to kind of go away."
Favre seems far less optimistic about the state of his own body than he is about the state of his team.
"Honestly? My arm feels great. The rest of my body feels like I've been playing for 16 years," Favre said. "I probably walk around and run around like an old man. My ankles and my feet and hips all bother me. I can still play. It may take awhile in the morning to walk normal -- if I ever do walk normal -- but that's part of it. I can overcome that."
Favre already has sat out a practice session because of his sore ankle, and he plans to scale back his participation in practices this year to try to conserve his body.
"I don't anticipate feeling better," Favre said. "But by taking maybe mornings off and being careful to a certain extent, it will prolong my playing. I don't think it's anything that tomorrow I say, 'I just can't make it. I can't do it anymore.' It's just something you have to play with."
Just like playing with a new cast of teammates.
"New guys come in, you really can't worry about that," Favre said. "You worry about what you're doing, and I think that's one of the reasons that I'm still here."
Although he acknowledges the interior offensive line, including two rookie guards, is raw, he said the team has plenty of experience and depth at running back and tight end.
"If we had everyone healthy last year, it would have been a different story," Favre said. "How different? I don't know. I would think much different. This year, to me, the question mark is offense. If we stay healthy and our young guys play to par, I don't see any reason why we won't be much better than we were last year."
Favre also singled out rookie receiver Greg Jennings for praise.
"Sometimes size and speed play such a big part in decisions of an NFL team and you overlook the most important thing, intangibles," Favre said. "Can he get open? Can he catch? Can he catch in traffic? And some of those things remain to be seen, but I feel like he's kind of a natural at what he does."
Favre knows outsiders aren't nearly as optimistic about the Packers.
"I really believe that we're going to be better than people think we will," Favre said.
Fixed.Grid should work for the New York Times.Spin in full effect.
-- Favre Picked Five Times --Tue Aug 1, 2006 --from FFMastermind.comThe Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reports the new Green Bay Packers coaching staff is a bit miffed after QB Brett Favre fired an incredible five interceptions Monday afternoon in practice. Just as he does after almost every play, HC Mike McCarthy spoke with Favre immediately after the interceptions. "What do you want me to say?" OC Jeff Jagodzinski said. "No, that's not acceptable. And let me tell you. We're going to get it corrected." Favre is coming off a season in which he had 29 interceptions, most by any quarterback in the National Football League since 1988. To have their veteran leader fire five on a day when he was splitting time at the position and practices were shortened because of the heat was far from what McCarthy wanted to see. Both Jagodzinski and wide receivers coach Jimmy Robinson said they wouldn't be able to tell exactly what happened until they reviewed tape. However, Robinson said he didn't notice a blown route on any of the five. "Here's the big thing," Jagodzinski said. "You can't throw down the middle late. You just can't do that. And I think a couple of them were down the middle late." CB Charles Woodson picked off Favre three times. "It's not just Brett," Woodson said. "It's the fact I've been doing it a long time and I can still do it. "There's been a lot of things written about me the past couple years as far as me being hurt and I've lost a step and this and that. It's really a bunch of nonsense. There's no question, if you go back and look at the games, I can play for anybody."
In a year where someone claimed to be misquoted in their own autobiography, this is the "most priceless quote so far"?
I don't think so.
Fixed.DeCleater said:Fixed.CowboyFan said:Grid should work for Fox News.Spin in full effect.
Fixed.CowboyFan said:Grid should work for the Democrat Party and CNN.Spin in full effect.
Are you submitting the Charles Woodson portion of this quote for "most priceless"?Chaos Commish said:-- Favre Picked Five Times --
Tue Aug 1, 2006 --from FFMastermind.com
The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reports the new Green Bay Packers coaching staff is a bit miffed after QB Brett Favre fired an incredible five interceptions Monday afternoon in practice. Just as he does after almost every play, HC Mike McCarthy spoke with Favre immediately after the interceptions. "What do you want me to say?" OC Jeff Jagodzinski said. "No, that's not acceptable. And let me tell you. We're going to get it corrected." Favre is coming off a season in which he had 29 interceptions, most by any quarterback in the National Football League since 1988. To have their veteran leader fire five on a day when he was splitting time at the position and practices were shortened because of the heat was far from what McCarthy wanted to see. Both Jagodzinski and wide receivers coach Jimmy Robinson said they wouldn't be able to tell exactly what happened until they reviewed tape. However, Robinson said he didn't notice a blown route on any of the five. "Here's the big thing," Jagodzinski said. "You can't throw down the middle late. You just can't do that. And I think a couple of them were down the middle late." CB Charles Woodson picked off Favre three times. "It's not just Brett," Woodson said. "It's the fact I've been doing it a long time and I can still do it. "There's been a lot of things written about me the past couple years as far as me being hurt and I've lost a step and this and that. It's really a bunch of nonsense. There's no question, if you go back and look at the games, I can play for anybody."
Well, the real problem is gonna be if he really believes that! lol"I really feel like this is, as far as talent is concerned, the most talented team that I've been a part of as a whole," Favre said Monday morning.
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Call me a Dolphin hater, but that is a 6 win team at best.And even so, you're still looking at about an 8 win floor.That's a far cry from the 4-5 wins most people are penciling them in for.MLBrandow,That's a good point on the schedule, but I can easily see Week 1 (Chicago) and especially Week 7 (at Miami) going in the "L" column.
At worst they are a 9 win teamAt worst, this is a 9 win team, and they'll make damn sure to win the opener, so you're looking at probably 10 for the Pack.
How many people are going to eat crow when the Packers take the division with their cookie-dough schedule?At worst, this is a 9 win team, and they'll make damn sure to win the opener, so you're looking at probably 10 for the Pack.
I know this is about the Packers, but Miami getting only 6 wins? You can already hand them 4 from the Bills and Jets, their defense is pretty decent and their offense has some serious weapons, not to mention a very good coach who knows how to win. I see them getting in the playoffs this year. If they don't beat out New England, at least as a wildcard.P.S. Favre is still the man and the Pack has a good shot at that sorry division. I think his comment was more for his teammates sake than what he actually believes.Call me a Dolphin hater, but that is a 6 win team at best.And even so, you're still looking at about an 8 win floor.MLBrandow,
That's a good point on the schedule, but I can easily see Week 1 (Chicago) and especially Week 7 (at Miami) going in the "L" column.
That's a far cry from the 4-5 wins most people are penciling them in for.
At worst they are a 9 win teamAt worst, this is a 9 win team, and they'll make damn sure to win the opener, so you're looking at probably 10 for the Pack.the only away game I see them winning is against san fran myself.
Haven't looked at the Bears schedule I see:How many people are going to eat crow when the Packers take the division with their cookie-dough schedule?
Date Opponent Time/Result
Sep 10 Chicago 4:15pm
Sep 17 New Orleans 1:00pm
Sep 24 @Detroit 1:00pm
Oct 2 @Philadelphia 8:30pm
Oct 8 St. Louis 1:00pm
Week 6 BYE
Oct 22 @Miami 1:00pm
Oct 29 Arizona 1:00pm
Nov 5 @Buffalo 1:00pm
Nov 12 @Minnesota 1:00pm
Nov 19 New England 1:00pm
Nov 27 @Seattle 8:30pm
Dec 3 N.Y. Jets 1:00pm
Dec 10 @San Francisco 4:05pm
Dec 17 Detroit 1:00pm
Dec 21 Minnesota 8:00pm
Dec 31 @Chicago 1:00pm
Date Opponent Time/ResultSep 10 @Green Bay 4:15pmSep 17 Detroit 1:00pmSep 24 @Minnesota 1:00pmOct 1 Seattle 8:15pmOct 8 Buffalo 1:00pmOct 16 @Arizona 8:30pmWeek 7 BYE Oct 29 San Francisco 1:00pmNov 5 Miami 1:00pmNov 12 @N.Y. Giants 1:00pmNov 19 @N.Y. Jets 1:00pmNov 26 @New England 1:00pmDec 3 Minnesota 1:00pmDec 11 @St. Louis 8:30pmDec 17 Tampa Bay 1:00pmDec 24 @Detroit 1:00pmDec 31 Green Bay 1:00pm
Date Opponent Time/ResultSep 11 @Washington 7:00pmSep 17 Carolina 1:00pmSep 24 Chicago 1:00pmOct 1 @Buffalo 1:00pmOct 8 Detroit 1:00pmWeek 6 BYE Oct 22 @Seattle 4:15pmOct 30 New England 8:30pmNov 5 @San Francisco 4:05pmNov 12 Green Bay 1:00pmNov 19 @Miami 1:00pmNov 26 Arizona 1:00pmDec 3 @Chicago 1:00pmDec 10 @Detroit 1:00pmDec 17 N.Y. Jets 1:00pmDec 21 @Green Bay 8:00pmDec 31 St. Louis 1:00pm
Date Opponent Time/ResultSep 10 Seattle 1:00pmSep 17 @Chicago 1:00pmSep 24 Green Bay 1:00pmOct 1 @St. Louis 4:05pmOct 8 @Minnesota 1:00pmOct 15 Buffalo 1:00pmOct 22 @N.Y. Jets 1:00pmWeek 8 BYE Nov 5 Atlanta 1:00pmNov 12 San Francisco 1:00pmNov 19 @Arizona 4:05pmNov 23 Miami 12:30pmDec 3 @New England 1:00pmDec 10 Minnesota 1:00pmDec 17 @Green Bay 1:00pmDec 24 Chicago 1:00pmDec 31 @Dallas 1:00pm
DeCleater said:Fixed.Grid should work for Rush and the White House.
Lying is his forte.
Obviously notDeCleater said:Fixed.Grid should work for Rush and the White House.Lying is his forte.
I'm glad somebody else mentioned this. On paper, the Pack has the #2 easiest schedule in the league. The #1? That would be the Bears, my friend. And you're supposed to win our division? Pshaw.Haven't looked at the Bears schedule I see:How many people are going to eat crow when the Packers take the division with their cookie-dough schedule?
Date Opponent Time/Result
Sep 10 Chicago 4:15pm
Sep 17 New Orleans 1:00pm
Sep 24 @Detroit 1:00pm
Oct 2 @Philadelphia 8:30pm
Oct 8 St. Louis 1:00pm
Week 6 BYE
Oct 22 @Miami 1:00pm
Oct 29 Arizona 1:00pm
Nov 5 @Buffalo 1:00pm
Nov 12 @Minnesota 1:00pm
Nov 19 New England 1:00pm
Nov 27 @Seattle 8:30pm
Dec 3 N.Y. Jets 1:00pm
Dec 10 @San Francisco 4:05pm
Dec 17 Detroit 1:00pm
Dec 21 Minnesota 8:00pm
Dec 31 @Chicago 1:00pm
Date Opponent Time/ResultSep 10 @Green Bay 4:15pmSep 17 Detroit 1:00pmSep 24 @Minnesota 1:00pmOct 1 Seattle 8:15pmOct 8 Buffalo 1:00pmOct 16 @Arizona 8:30pmWeek 7 BYE Oct 29 San Francisco 1:00pmNov 5 Miami 1:00pmNov 12 @N.Y. Giants 1:00pmNov 19 @N.Y. Jets 1:00pmNov 26 @New England 1:00pmDec 3 Minnesota 1:00pmDec 11 @St. Louis 8:30pmDec 17 Tampa Bay 1:00pmDec 24 @Detroit 1:00pmDec 31 Green Bay 1:00pmOr the Vikes:
Or the Lions:Code:Date Opponent Time/ResultSep 11 @Washington 7:00pmSep 17 Carolina 1:00pmSep 24 Chicago 1:00pmOct 1 @Buffalo 1:00pmOct 8 Detroit 1:00pmWeek 6 BYE Oct 22 @Seattle 4:15pmOct 30 New England 8:30pmNov 5 @San Francisco 4:05pmNov 12 Green Bay 1:00pmNov 19 @Miami 1:00pmNov 26 Arizona 1:00pmDec 3 @Chicago 1:00pmDec 10 @Detroit 1:00pmDec 17 N.Y. Jets 1:00pmDec 21 @Green Bay 8:00pmDec 31 St. Louis 1:00pm
I'm not seeing how that Pack schedule is any better than these and I see them a a worse team.Code:Date Opponent Time/ResultSep 10 Seattle 1:00pmSep 17 @Chicago 1:00pmSep 24 Green Bay 1:00pmOct 1 @St. Louis 4:05pmOct 8 @Minnesota 1:00pmOct 15 Buffalo 1:00pmOct 22 @N.Y. Jets 1:00pmWeek 8 BYE Nov 5 Atlanta 1:00pmNov 12 San Francisco 1:00pmNov 19 @Arizona 4:05pmNov 23 Miami 12:30pmDec 3 @New England 1:00pmDec 10 Minnesota 1:00pmDec 17 @Green Bay 1:00pmDec 24 Chicago 1:00pmDec 31 @Dallas 1:00pm
Yes, but he's surrounded by the most talented group of players in his career.It's not easy to win double digit games if your QB throws 29 INTs.
The thing is, that #1 WR was traded, that 4th string RB might still be the starter, and the holes on the o-line have been filled with 2nd and 3rd round rookies. The Pack's offensive starters really don't look a whole helluva lot better than they did at the end of last season.I think that MLBRANDOW has a great point about how fast the Packers have been written off. They were injury plagued on the O-line and they were down to there 4th string RB. Their #1 wr was out for the season, can it get worse??? The defense has a lot of room to improve but they are improving. I think Favre is going to lead this team to a decent record especially compared to last year. Favre isnt used to loosing, this year he turns the team back around to be competable and no longer a mocking point of the NFL.
Nice sig btw.At worst they are a 9 win teamAt worst, this is a 9 win team, and they'll make damn sure to win the opener, so you're looking at probably 10 for the Pack.the only away game I see them winning is against san fran myself.
This is not your Father's Favre.
The thing is, that #1 WR was traded, that 4th string RB might still be the starter, and the holes on the o-line have been filled with 2nd and 3rd round rookies. The Pack's offensive starters really don't look a whole helluva lot better than they did at the end of last season.
Nice sig btw.At worst they are a 9 win teamAt worst, this is a 9 win team, and they'll make damn sure to win the opener, so you're looking at probably 10 for the Pack.the only away game I see them winning is against san fran myself.
This is not your Father's Favre.
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Much as I hate the collective NFC north, I got a smile out of Brandow's brazen prediction. 'Mow down the Vikings and Lions'?Nice sig btw.At worst they are a 9 win teamAt worst, this is a 9 win team, and they'll make damn sure to win the opener, so you're looking at probably 10 for the Pack.the only away game I see them winning is against san fran myself.
This is not your Father's Favre.
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I'll keep it just for you. Feel free to bump my threads as the year goes on, although I doubt you'll want to.
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According to the Packers depth chart, Coston is ahead of Spitz so there is only one rookie penciled in at the moment. This could change, but from what I've seen and heard, Coston had a good offseason staying in Green Bay to workout and better prepare himself with the new zone blocking scheme, and has looked decent thus far. And even as a rookie, Colledge is an upgrade at the position. Don't for second think he isn't. If the Oline gets hit with injury it could be real ugly, especially if Tauscher or Clifton miss some games. They do lack depth right now, and I'm really losing all of my optomism about William Whitaker.The thing is, that #1 WR was traded, that 4th string RB might still be the starter, and the holes on the o-line have been filled with 2nd and 3rd round rookies. The Pack's offensive starters really don't look a whole helluva lot better than they did at the end of last season.The 2 rooks penciled in on the OL will be ugly, even w/ the cake schedule. 4-5 wins (due to Lambeau alone more than anything else) seems about right.
Aren't you that same guy predicting the Vikings will be 10-6?Did you ever take my bet?nshelat1 said:Much as I hate the collective NFC north, I got a smile out of Brandow's brazen prediction. 'Mow down the Vikings and Lions'?The only thing that stinks more than the Pack is their ####### cheese.
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I can't disagree here. I wasn't watching real close the whole time so help me out here, but on some of those plays I thought he looked more lost than just being over dominated. Could just be my wishful thinking, and I'm hoping he was just lost and can get it together with time and more experience.Sabertooth said:Coston sucked in the scrimmage. He gotrepeatedly.
Just out of curiousity...what is he supposed to say when he's asked about his teams chances? Should he have said we have a bunch of rookies and no real talent? I'm sure that would be a great motivator for the team. Also, as others have pointed out, the comment is only half of what he said. He followed it up with all the talent in the world doesn't mean much if you can't put it all together, and this is a very young, inexperienced team, so we'll have to see if we can put it all together.(yes, this is a paraphrase, but from listening to the actual interview, it sounds a bit more accurate than the article). Boy, that really sounds delusional to me."I really feel like this is, as far as talent is concerned, the most talented team that I've been a part of as a whole," Favre said Monday morning.
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Yes, if you include the defensive backs catching his passes.Yes, but he's surrounded by the most talented group of players in his career.It's not easy to win double digit games if your QB throws 29 INTs.