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Mother in law might go to jail (1 Viewer)

ghostguy123

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So my MIL sucks, bad, in every way.  My wife is nothing like here, thank the lord.  This lady has a messed up addiction issue.  Was on drugs a long long time ago, but the past 20 years or so it has been gambling.  On top of it she is the worst kind of gambler, a DUMB gambler.  She has never done anything +EV in her life.  She has probably blown over 100 grand on instant scratch offs in her life, maybe more.  Not even REAL gambling.  The stupid crap like scratch offs and the occasional slots.  She also has generally zero concept of any sort of financial responsibility.  Plus she just has a terrible personality.  She is nice most of the time, but just sucks so bad in general. 

Anyway, my wife's brother had a diamond ring go missing.  It was the ring he had given his ex-fiance who had given it back.  They have a kid together and have been off and on about working things out.  Whether they did or not doesn't even matter, it's like a $3,000 diamond ring.

Well, my wife's brother is a cop.  He was awfully suspicious of his mother and did a little digging around.  It took maybe an hour or two total of his time.  Turns out his mother had taken the ring to a pawn shop about 10 miles away and pawned off the ring for a whopping total of $123.  Yep, one hundred twenty three dollars. 

This all went down yesterday.  Very much to be determined about how far my brother in law is going to take this.  As of yesterday he had already filed a police report.  My wife's head has been spinning for the past 24 hours. 

:coffee:

 
Things have been kinda boring.  Got a 6 month old baby at home so pretty much just going to work and taking care of the little one. 

This adds some spice.  Maybe too much spice.  We hall see

 
Oh, hahah, forgot to mention.  He got the ring back from the pawn shop. 

That and the "again" part got me cause he has never been married. 

 
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Apparently it was such a low price because my MIL had until a certain date to come back and get it for a buy back price that was pretty much the same as what they gave her for it.

If she failed to come back to get it by that date, then it meant she would have surrendered it to the pawn shop.

I don't know if that is some sort of standard thing.  I dont know much about pawn shops.

 
Apparently it was such a low price because my MIL had until a certain date to come back and get it for a buy back price that was pretty much the same as what they gave her for it.

If she failed to come back to get it by that date, then it meant she would have surrendered it to the pawn shop.

I don't know if that is some sort of standard thing.  I dont know much about pawn shops.
That's what they do.

 
Apparently it was such a low price because my MIL had until a certain date to come back and get it for a buy back price that was pretty much the same as what they gave her for it.

If she failed to come back to get it by that date, then it meant she would have surrendered it to the pawn shop.

I don't know if that is some sort of standard thing.  I dont know much about pawn shops.
She pawned the ring for a loan, which is not like what they show on pawn stars at all

 
I've dealt with drug addicted family members and subsequent stealing. I've never got the cops involved but I have a general rule of never getting cops involved unless my life is in danger.

 
She pawned the ring for a loan, which is not like what they show on pawn stars at all


They may never show it, but that's probably where I learned that's what pawn shops actually are.   Every person who comes in with something they ask them if they want to pawn it or if they're looking to sell it. 

I can't imagine someone in-family pressing charges over this, especially not to an elderly person.

 
Boy there's a thread title that grabs your attention. Should normally be a Friday thread, but the Masters starts tomorrow. I applaud you sir.

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False information to a pawnbroker is a felony in Colorado.

When she pawned the ring she had to sign an affidavit She owned the ring. 

 
FYI, the cops always get back the victim's stuff when the thief pawns it.  Every time.  Exactly the way it happened here.

 
She pawned the ring for a loan, which is not like what they show on pawn stars at all
Yep. True "pawn" shops are HIGHLY regulated, because they act like banks. You provide collateral (diamond ring), they loan you money. If you can pay back the money within 30 days, then the shop is legally required to give your collateral back. But many places don't even bother calling themselves "pawn shops" anymore because the lending regulations are too much of a hassle to deal with. It's easier to just call themselves a "Used Jewelry" shop or whatever.

 
cockroach said:
I can't imagine someone in-family pressing charges over this, especially not to an elderly person.
I can't imagine my mother stealing my wife's wedding ring for a 123 dollar loan. .

#### her, she needs jail if she and any of us every expect her to become a person we ever want to be around again. 

Chances are she will not end up in jail over this because the rest of the family are a bunch of enablers and are trying to talk my BIL out of pressing charges. 

But, she needs jail.

 
ghostguy123 said:
Turns out his mother had taken the ring to a pawn shop about 10 miles away and pawned off the ring for a whopping total of $123.  Yep, one hundred twenty three dollars. 
Not surprising.  I bought my first fiancee a $3,000 ring and when things ended, I wound up looking to sell it.  First place I took it was a pawn shop.  Was offered $30.  I'd rather throw it in the river than take only $30.  At least that one was mine to sell.

 
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Not surprising.  I bought my first fiance a $3,000 ring and when things ended, I wound up looking to sell it.  First place I took it was a pawn shop.  Was offered $30.  I'd rather throw it in the river than take only $30.  At least that one was mine to sell.
I woulda punched the guy.

The thing about the 123 dollars is, you are stealing his eventual wife's wedding ring for 123 bucks. Sad on a multitude of levels.  She likely took that 123 dollars and bought 123 dollars worth of instant lottery tickets.  Took the 50 bucks in winning from that and bought 50 dollar more.  Took the 20 dollars in winning and bought 20 dollars more, winning zero dollars, walking away with nothing.  Yep, steal your kids wedding ring, risking your relationship with him, risking jail, risking losing her nursing license..................for literally the thrill of scratching off enough lottery tickets to be able to walk way with zero dollars.

 
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I woulda punched the guy.

The thing about the 123 dollars is, you are stealing his eventual wife's wedding ring for 123 bucks. Sad on a multitude of levels.  She likely took that 123 dollars and bought 123 dollars worth of instant lottery tickets.  Took the 50 bucks in winning from that and bought 50 dollar more.  Took the 20 dollars in winning and bought 20 dollars more, winning zero dollars, walking away with nothing.  Yep, steal your kids wedding ring, risking your relationship with him, risking jail, risking losing her nursing license..................for literally the thrill of scratching off enough lottery tickets to be able to walk way with zero dollars.
What have her kids done to help her with her addictions?

 
Is this woman not their mother? I'm asking you an honest question. What has her family done to help her? You mentioned a drug addictiona nd now gambling. What's been done to help this woman save herself?

Have no idea what your outburst is over.
She is no longer addicted to any sort of drug and hasn't been for 20+ years. 

Let's put it this way.  TOO MUCH has been done by a dozen or more family members.  Her problems are beyond fixable by her family members and have been for decades.  

I have no idea why you are even asking such a stupid ####### question in the first place, hence my "outburst".  If you want to start a thread about helping people with addictions go right ahead. 

 
Wow, sounds like this lady need a quick dose of reality.  Good thing is that she only stole $123 at the end of the day.  Bad thing is that I am sure it is just the start.  By the way, how in the world did he notice it missing?   Does not seem like that is something you would look at ever.  Put it away in a drawer and forget about it.

 
I have no idea why you are even asking such a stupid ####### question in the first place, hence my "outburst".  If you want to start a thread about helping people with addictions go right ahead. 
Let's see... you started a thread about a mother who, as you said, has addiction issues.

You said she pawned her son's ring and her son found out and wants to throw her in jail. 

Why am I asking if anyone has tried to get her help? REALLY? Let me put it this way, if she's had these issues, and her family did NOTHING to help her throughout her life, would you agree that her son should be tossing her in jail? Or would the kids have some sort of fault in never tending to the woman that birthed them?

Drop your tough guy act, bro. You want to start a thread like this, get prepared for questions. legitimate ones. 

If her family have tried countless time to save her, as you've said... The story changes. She needs a "time out" - If they've left her to rot without any guidance or support in the past, the kids would be scumbags for throwing her in prison.

How's that?

 
Wow, sounds like this lady need a quick dose of reality.  Good thing is that she only stole $123 at the end of the day.  Bad thing is that I am sure it is just the start.  By the way, how in the world did he notice it missing?   Does not seem like that is something you would look at ever.  Put it away in a drawer and forget about it.
Well, no, she stole a $3,000 diamond engagement ring.  Probably a felony. 

 
Thanks Soul, but the princess you are looking for is in another castle. 

The woman can not be helped by her kids.  Her problems are too deep, and they are not close to being able to help them. 

On a side note, with all the BS this woman has put her kids through in their lifetime, I would be fine with them sending her to jail even if they had never bothered to try and help her. 

 
Well, no, she stole a $3,000 diamond engagement ring.  Probably a felony. 
Yes but it only cost your BIL $123 to get it back right?  So the actual lost was $123 unless I am missing something.  Point is that it could have been worse.  At the end of the day it does not matter if it was a $20 bill, stealing is still stealing.  Sounds like she needs a dose of reality. 

By the way, that 3k ring is probably worth $300-$400 total

 
Yes but it only cost your BIL $123 to get it back right?  So the actual lost was $123 unless I am missing something.  Point is that it could have been worse.  At the end of the day it does not matter if it was a $20 bill, stealing is still stealing.  Sounds like she needs a dose of reality. 

By the way, that 3k ring is probably worth $300-$400 total
No, it didnt cost him anything to get it back. 

My wife just talked to her and she said "god, you guys act like I robbed a bank or something".  She doesnt even think she did anything wrong. She even took it the day before pay day. 

She needs jail. 

 
Because the world is filled with success stories of petty criminals going to jail and being rehabilitated. 

You just don't like this lady and want her to suffer, admit it.

 
Because the world is filled with success stories of petty criminals going to jail and being rehabilitated. 

You just don't like this lady and want her to suffer, admit it.
:goodposting:    Has the family talked too her about her behavior and how it is affecting their relationship?  I know it sounds stupid but she obviously has no clue.  I am sure that she was just "borrowing" the collateral in her mind and was going to pay it back when she got paid.  This type of thought process will be much worse as she is not able to pay it back.  No skin off my back, but don't let her into your house.

 
Only daily for about 20 years.  Not enough???
Oh, I was under the impression that she was being handled with kid gloves.  Time for some tough love then ie: you are not allowed at my home.  I will meet you at a restaurant or for a coffee but I don't trust you here. 

 
A couple years ago my MIL stayed the night at our house watching our daughter while we went out for then night for our anniversary.  A couple different times that night I mentioned to my wife that I bet her mother is going through all our drawers and stuff.  Not even necessarily to steal.  She is just nosy and always in peoples business.  To that point I never knew of he stealing stuff to pawn, but I knew how nosy and inconsiderate she was. 

My wife said there was no way she would do that.  My ###.  I would bet anything she was doing it.  We just don't have anything of any value that wouldn't be  noticed right away if it went missing. 

 
Oh, I was under the impression that she was being handled with kid gloves.  Time for some tough love then ie: you are not allowed at my home.  I will meet you at a restaurant or for a coffee but I don't trust you here. 
No, no kid gloves.  In fact her husband just divorced her like two years ago.  Basically, enough was enough for him. 

 
Because the world is filled with success stories of petty criminals going to jail and being rehabilitated. 

You just don't like this lady and want her to suffer, admit it.
Success???  Success would be getting her stupid ### away from people so their s### stops going missing.

And hell no I don't like the lady.  There is nothing to like and lots to hate

 
Wow, this thread is enlightening.  This lady has made life miserable for everyone in her family for multiple decades, yet somehow they have not done enough to help her, and having her face long overdue consequences is some sort of disgusting idea. 

No wonder why this country is imploding 

 
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