My last mock draft (1 Viewer)

[Blackjacks]

1) Miami - Jake Long

A week to go he is still the leader in the clubhouse. I'm shocked this isn't Chris Long but I think the Dolphins are going to make the LT out of Michigan the #1 overall pick this year.

2) STL - Chris Long

The Rams finally get a stud pass rusher, something they have lacked for a long time. Long is about the most can't miss prospect in the draft and brings an attitude the Rams need. I personally think the Dorsey rumore are to get someone to move up. I really hope they don't go DT again this year.

3) ATL - Glenn Dorsey

As long as he is available he is going to the Falcons. He has a small injury concern but except for that will be a beast in the middle for ATL.

4) Oakland - Vernon Gholston

Oakland has a good defense but they need a pass rusher and Gholston fits the mold. I don't think they go McFadden due to them already being pretty deep at the rb spot. Oakland might turn some heads next year.

5) KC - Matt Ryan

I know they need Oline help but they can address that later. When you get a chance to draft a franchise type QB you take it. That is something KC hasn't had for a long time.

6) NYJ - Leodis McKelvin

And the Jet fan's boo but it's the right pick. I can't believe the Jets are really going to take McFadden after parading him around lately. This pick makes sense cause they'll have 2 young shut down corners, it improves their return game, and you keep the Patriots from getting the guy they want. I know Jet fans would hate it but I really don't think McFadden will be the pick.

7) NE - Branden Albert

Oline needs some help and Albert is the flexable type player the Patriots like. I really don't think they'll be pickinbg here but I'm not predecting trades so this is who I'll put in here.

8) Baltimore - Ryan Clady

Really wanted Ryan but will have to settle with Jonathon Ogden's future replacement. I don't care if you have Boller back there or whoever you need to have a LT and without Ogden Balt just doesn't.

9) Cincy - Sedrick Ellis

Like everyone and their mother I'm going with this pick. It just makes to much sense and Cincy fans sahould be estatic. They missed out on getting Rogers this offseason so you know they are interested in beefing up themiddl;e and this picj helps.

10) New Orleans - Keith Rivers

I think this might be early for him but wow would this LB corp be impressive on paper with Morgan, Vilma and Rivers. With the injury concerns with the before mentioned I could see NO wanting to solidify the position.

11) Buffalo - Dominique Rodgers- Cromartie

The get a replacement a year late on Nate Clemons. I think Buffalo would love to take a WR here but there just isn't a reciever who deserves to be picked that early.

12) Denver - Chris Williams

At this point everyone starts to think about McFadden in Denver but Denver really needs help on the Oline. Willimas has great talent but I think he is thought of as alittle lazy. McFadden will be this years' Brady Quinn as we watch him squirm in the green room. By this time the phones are probbaly getting alot of attention with Dallas on the other line.

13) Carolina - Derrick Harvey

Julius Peppers is in his last year of his contract and this will be his future replacement or pllay aginst Mr. Peppers and form a very nice tandem.

14) Chicago - Darren McFadden

This is offense sucks so why not draft the best offensive player in this draft. Benson might be okay if used in a Deuce reduced role. I know they need Oline but who cares who is on the Oline if Grossman and Benson is what your trying to protect.

15) Detroit - Jeff Otah

Detroit need to build that Oline if they want to be a power running team. If McFadden is there it will be hard to not take him and while Mendenhall is tempting they opt to get a rb later.

16) Arizona - Aqib Talib

You put Aquib back in coverage with Rolle and you have a very talented secondary. I think they might go with Mendenhall here as well but Arizona has to realize that their offense isn't the proble,

17) Minnesota - Calais Campbell

They need a pass rusher and Campbell is a big man coming off the side. I'm sure the Viking fans; hope they don't have this pick and used it to acquire J. Allen from the Chiefs but again not projecting any trades.

18) Houston - Rashard Mendenhall

Great fit for Houston. He will split time with Ahman for a year and then be the man from there. I think in this scenario he would be the #1 dynasty player picked in rookie drafts.

19) Philly - Limas Sweed

They need to upgrade that wr spot and we know they've tried this offseason so we are aware they know they have a need. I think Sweed is the best wr prospect in this class, some will Thomas is but I will trust a guy with a track record of more than one year.

20) TB - Felix Jones

I really think TB is going to shock some people and take Jones before Stewart. Unfortunetly Caddy's career will never be what is could have been. Some might think they are going into the season with Graham, who was respectable and Dunn. I'm not one of those people. Jones would be a great compliment to Graham and this pick would give the TB offense the shot in the arm they need.

21) Washington - Devin Thomas

West coast offense needs a taller skiller wr and Thomas could be that guy. I could also see this pick being in Cinncy's possession by draft day as I think the Redskins are going to go after Chad Johnson very hard.

22) Dallas - Mike Jenkins

Dallas would be very happy to pick up Jenkins this late in the draft. They definetly need help in the secondary and get it here. They could go Stewart but he isn't exactly the compliment to Babrer they are looking for. Look for them to give strong consideration to Jamar Charles in the second round.

23) Pittsburgh - Jonathon Stewart

FWP isn't that good...there I said it. Steart give them the big back they offense has been missing since the Bus retired. They can bring Stewart in slow this year and then hand the job to him late on. This would be a great 1-2 punch.

24) Tenn - Antoin Cason

The two wr's they would have been interested in are both gone and while I'm tempted to go with Hardy here I just can't. Cason will replace the void PacMan left and sure up a already good defense.

25) Seattle - James Hardy

Again I think Chad Johnson could be involved with this pick but Seattle needs to do something with their wr's. I just can't see them going into the season with Burleson and Engram as their starters. Hardy gives them the height they lack right now and a great redzone target. I think he will end up being a very good pro.

26) Jacksonville - Jerod Mayo

I tell you this team is deep at every position. When you look at what they need you end up just saying BPA. Mayo is a very good talent and could push his way intot he starting lineup very quickly. I thoguh about going Balmer here sue to the loss of Stroud but I think his stock value is going to drop big time.

27) SD - Quentin Groves

Another team that is extremly deep. Groves adds a very good pass rusher into the mix. I keep hearing about going rb here and I just can't see it. I could see grabbing one in the second or third round due to LT getting up there alittle in age but not a 1st round pick on his back up.

28) Dallas - Malcom Kelly

I know he ran a bad 40 and I know he had a bad interview but I think Dallas is going a wr here and I can't see drafting Desean Jackson before Kelly. Just my opinion. Kelly has extremly good hands and a good NFL body. I think in this situation Kelly has the best upside of all other wr's drafted.

29) San Fran - Kenny Phillps

They are building a nice defense there and with Phillips coach Nolan hoes he got his Ed Reed since he got his Ray Lewis lat year. I don't think Phillips is anywhere near Ed Reed but he is an upgrade at the position and nice player to get here in the draft.

30) GB - Brandon Flowers

GB's corners aren't what I would call young and Flowers plays a nice physical style they would work good in GB. Not a real sexy pick here but a nice depth pick. Pat Kiwan has been calling for Brian Brohm to go here but I don't see it happening. That puts way to much pressure on Rodgers.

31) NE - forfeited

Cheaters never win and Winners never cheat

32) NYG - Dan Connor

I've never waffled off this pick. I think he would be a very nice addition to the defense. He seems like a perfect fit for that defense.

 

[RustyFA]

Nice attempt. I don't think Shannahan could help himself if McFadden fell that far. I also like St. Louis not taking a DT. I wouldn't be happy with the Vikes pick but understand the reason.

 

[{Syrus}]

I like your mock because its different and throws some twists into it...much like what will happen on Saturday. If Darren McFadden begins to fall anywhere near the 8-10 range though get ready for all mocks to be ruined because some team will trade up to get him, wheher it be Denver, Houston, Dallas...somebody will be looking to move up.

 

[Blackjacks]

I like your mock because its different and throws some twists into it...much like what will happen on Saturday. If Darren McFadden begins to fall anywhere near the 8-10 range though get ready for all mocks to be ruined because some team will trade up to get him, wheher it be Denver, Houston, Dallas...somebody will be looking to move up.

Thanks and I agree. If Mcfadden starts to fall, especially to #10 @ New Orleans. I could see them wanting to move down and pick up a 2nd and probably still get Rivers. That 2nd would help them get something going with Shockey probably as well.

 

[Blackjacks]

Nice attempt. I don't think Shannahan could help himself if McFadden fell that far. I also like St. Louis not taking a DT. I wouldn't be happy with the Vikes pick but understand the reason.

Remember Portis was the highest rb he has ever taken and that wasn't

 

[B Maverick]

27) SD - Quentin GrovesAnother team that is extremly deep. Groves adds a very good pass rusher into the mix. I keep hearing about going rb here and I just can't see it. I could see grabbing one in the second or third round due to LT getting up there alittle in age but not a 1st round pick on his back up.

Interesting new choice for SD. Where do you project him to play in the 3-4, DE or OLB and do you see him as a better option then Igor Olshansky, Castillo, Phillips or Merriman?Not trying to be harsh, but the pick makes no sense. Also keep in mind that SD has no picks until the 5th rd, so picking up a RB in the 2nd or 3rd requires a trade down and IMO they need an impact player. Groves wont impact as much as an OT (Cherilus?), CB (Flowers, Cason?), and maybe a DT (Blamer?) to provide help/depth behind an aging williams (who had 2 minor knee surgeries this offseason.) Safety and RB is also needed for depth.BPA is a good strategy but this doesnt make sense.All in all good effort, I esp like McFadden falling to Chicago! Love Mendenhall in Houston but I dont think Houston takes a back that high.

 

[TheFanatic]

I like your mock because its different and throws some twists into it...much like what will happen on Saturday. If Darren McFadden begins to fall anywhere near the 8-10 range though get ready for all mocks to be ruined because some team will trade up to get him, wheher it be Denver, Houston, Dallas...somebody will be looking to move up.

I was thinking the same thing. There has got to be a trade if McFadden drops that far.

 

[dotman]

Solid but I really don't see the Eagles going with a WR at 19. Just doesn't fill a short term need, looking long term tackle is probably more important, and WR probably won't be the BPA at that spot in the draft either.

 

[TheFanatic]

Solid but I really don't see the Eagles going with a WR at 19. Just doesn't fill a short term need, looking long term tackle is probably more important, and WR probably won't be the BPA at that spot in the draft either.

I can see them going WR. I thought I heard that the draft was thick at tackle. That could be a second round pick...

 

[dotman]

Solid but I really don't see the Eagles going with a WR at 19. Just doesn't fill a short term need, looking long term tackle is probably more important, and WR probably won't be the BPA at that spot in the draft either.

I can see them going WR. I thought I heard that the draft was thick at tackle. That could be a second round pick...

Well I guess it will come down to how they feel about this year's WR draft class. IMO, the only WR worth a look at 1.19 is DeSean Jackson, for help in the return game. We shall see very soon!

 

[TheFanatic]

Solid but I really don't see the Eagles going with a WR at 19. Just doesn't fill a short term need, looking long term tackle is probably more important, and WR probably won't be the BPA at that spot in the draft either.

I can see them going WR. I thought I heard that the draft was thick at tackle. That could be a second round pick...

Well I guess it will come down to how they feel about this year's WR draft class. IMO, the only WR worth a look at 1.19 is DeSean Jackson, for help in the return game. We shall see very soon!

Not soon enough!!!

 

[Donnybrook]

17) Minnesota - Calais CampbellThey need a pass rusher and Campbell is a big man coming off the side. I'm sure the Viking fans; hope they don't have this pick and used it to acquire J. Allen from the Chiefs but again not projecting any trades.

I will be surprised if he get drafted in the first and won't be shocked if does not get taken on the first day.

 

[Texasmouth]

1. No way Dallas lets McFadden fall that far. If he makes it past the Jets, he will be a Cowboy. I dont think Jerry Jones will trade up further than 7-10 but if McFadden is still sitting there at that spot, he will be a Cowboy.

2. No way Dallas reaches for Malcom Kelly either. The guys stock has plummeted, no way the Cowboys reach on him when they have bigger needs. I am fully confident that if the Cowboys come out of the first round with a WR, it will be Roy Williams from Detroit, not a rookie.

 

[sholditch]

Nice work bucking the trend. I also don't think there is any way Run-DMC falls to the bears, and I kinda hope he doesn't since we desperately need OT there, but on the other hand I would be overjoyed to see a real offensive threat (other than Hester) on our team again.

 

[Blackjacks]

1. No way Dallas lets McFadden fall that far. If he makes it past the Jets, he will be a Cowboy. I dont think Jerry Jones will trade up further than 7-10 but if McFadden is still sitting there at that spot, he will be a Cowboy. 2. No way Dallas reaches for Malcom Kelly either. The guys stock has plummeted, no way the Cowboys reach on him when they have bigger needs. I am fully confident that if the Cowboys come out of the first round with a WR, it will be Roy Williams from Detroit, not a rookie.

I said in my original post that the phone would be ringing off the hook from the Cowboys if McFadden fell that far but I also said I wasn't doing any trades. I actually think Kelly is exactly the kind of guy the Cowboys would love fall to them. He is a sure handed guy (they need that) with a big body. TO only has one or two years left and they need to draft a future replacement go to guy.As for the Roy Williams thing....don't see it happening. I could see Chad before Roy. I do think after this season when Roy is a FA and if the Cowboys let go of TO (end of contract) then I could see Roy but not now.

 

[Blackjacks]

Solid but I really don't see the Eagles going with a WR at 19. Just doesn't fill a short term need, looking long term tackle is probably more important, and WR probably won't be the BPA at that spot in the draft either.

I will tell you right now that if a wr hasn't been draft yet, like in my mock there hadn't, and Philly has the pick of the litter they will draft a wr.

 

[Blackjacks]

27) SD - Quentin GrovesAnother team that is extremly deep. Groves adds a very good pass rusher into the mix. I keep hearing about going rb here and I just can't see it. I could see grabbing one in the second or third round due to LT getting up there alittle in age but not a 1st round pick on his back up.

Interesting new choice for SD. Where do you project him to play in the 3-4, DE or OLB and do you see him as a better option then Igor Olshansky, Castillo, Phillips or Merriman?Not trying to be harsh, but the pick makes no sense. Also keep in mind that SD has no picks until the 5th rd, so picking up a RB in the 2nd or 3rd requires a trade down and IMO they need an impact player. Groves wont impact as much as an OT (Cherilus?), CB (Flowers, Cason?), and maybe a DT (Blamer?) to provide help/depth behind an aging williams (who had 2 minor knee surgeries this offseason.) Safety and RB is also needed for depth.BPA is a good strategy but this doesnt make sense.All in all good effort, I esp like McFadden falling to Chicago! Love Mendenhall in Houston but I dont think Houston takes a back that high.

I do mention that SD is very deep. I will admit I wasn't aware of not having a pick in the 2nd, 3rd or fourth..my bad on that, but I do think depth is a great thing for them on the D side of the ball. There is no guarantee on all 4 of those players staying healthy and Groves is a very nice talent.

 

[ChrisCooleyFan]

Skins WILL NOT TAKE A WR in the 1st rd. If Allen and Williams are gone, they'll trade down.

 

[B Maverick]

27) SD - Quentin GrovesAnother team that is extremly deep. Groves adds a very good pass rusher into the mix. I keep hearing about going rb here and I just can't see it. I could see grabbing one in the second or third round due to LT getting up there alittle in age but not a 1st round pick on his back up.

Interesting new choice for SD. Where do you project him to play in the 3-4, DE or OLB and do you see him as a better option then Igor Olshansky, Castillo, Phillips or Merriman?Not trying to be harsh, but the pick makes no sense. Also keep in mind that SD has no picks until the 5th rd, so picking up a RB in the 2nd or 3rd requires a trade down and IMO they need an impact player. Groves wont impact as much as an OT (Cherilus?), CB (Flowers, Cason?), and maybe a DT (Blamer?) to provide help/depth behind an aging williams (who had 2 minor knee surgeries this offseason.) Safety and RB is also needed for depth.BPA is a good strategy but this doesnt make sense.All in all good effort, I esp like McFadden falling to Chicago! Love Mendenhall in Houston but I dont think Houston takes a back that high.

I do mention that SD is very deep. I will admit I wasn't aware of not having a pick in the 2nd, 3rd or fourth..my bad on that, but I do think depth is a great thing for them on the D side of the ball. There is no guarantee on all 4 of those players staying healthy and Groves is a very nice talent.

I agree they are deep which minimizes NEED picks, so he could go there. But with Jamal on the downside, a need at CB and OT, there are better options IMO.

 

[TheFanatic]

Skins WILL NOT TAKE A WR in the 1st rd. If Allen and Williams are gone, they'll trade down.

It's very easy to say things like this, but much harder for it to actually happen on draft day.

 

[TLEF316]

interesting thought with the Jets taking McKelvin. If the board breaks that way, I'd be in favor of the pick. I don't like Mcfadden.

However, the Jets don't really need help in the return game. Leon Washington was almost a pro-bowler last year and Justin Miller, who is coming back from injury, has already been there. Speaking of Miller, the Jets really need to find out if he can make it at any corner spot (looks like a nickle at best at this point.) Otherwise, they need to give him a shot at safety next to Rhodes. Miller is far too gifted physically to just give up on.

 

[Blackjacks]

interesting thought with the Jets taking McKelvin. If the board breaks that way, I'd be in favor of the pick. I don't like Mcfadden.However, the Jets don't really need help in the return game. Leon Washington was almost a pro-bowler last year and Justin Miller, who is coming back from injury, has already been there. Speaking of Miller, the Jets really need to find out if he can make it at any corner spot (looks like a nickle at best at this point.) Otherwise, they need to give him a shot at safety next to Rhodes. Miller is far too gifted physically to just give up on.

Good points but I will only say this. There is no comparision at kick returning skills with Justin Miller/L. Washington to McKelvin. I know it was only college but this guy is regarded as being a better returner than Ginn or Hester coming out of school. Also the big part of that pick was keeping him from the Patriots. A pick that helps them and hurts the best team in their division is the way to go. It's no that I really don't like McFadden. I just don't believe they are going that way with all the PUBLIC attention the Jets have shown hium in the last 2 weeks. You don't let everyone know who you want if you really want him. I also think putting McFadden in New York might be a bad idea with his extra baggage.(I do like Miller and Washington in the return game but good or very good doesn't = excellent)

 

[Blackjacks]

Skins WILL NOT TAKE A WR in the 1st rd. If Allen and Williams are gone, they'll trade down.

The team is switching to the westcoast offense this year and they have Santana Moss (a below avg. #1 wr) and ????? A. Randell El and you don't think they need a wr? I would like to hear some logic behind this guarantee. It isn't like they are loaded or even above avg at the position and the new offense they are running really relies on good, usually tall, wr's are you have neither. I personally will be shocked if they don't upgrade the position but I won't guarantee that cause unlike you I don't have good friends in the front office of the Redskins.

 

[Sidewinder16]

Skins WILL NOT TAKE A WR in the 1st rd. If Allen and Williams are gone, they'll trade down.

The team is switching to the westcoast offense this year and they have Santana Moss (a below avg. #1 wr) and ????? A. Randell El and you don't think they need a wr? I would like to hear some logic behind this guarantee. It isn't like they are loaded or even above avg at the position and the new offense they are running really relies on good, usually tall, wr's are you have neither. I personally will be shocked if they don't upgrade the position but I won't guarantee that cause unlike you I don't have good friends in the front office of the Redskins.

Which rookie WR is going to be able to learn Zorn's WCO and start in week 1?I have no doubts they will upgrade the position during the draft. But they can make much greater improvements to the team by drafting OL or DL in the first round than they can by drafting WR in the first.Despite the commonly held notion that neither Moss nor Randle El are sufficient WRs 1 and 2, they were not the problem with the offense last year. OL depth (or lack thereof) was by far the biggest problem last year.

 

[Blackjacks]

Skins WILL NOT TAKE A WR in the 1st rd. If Allen and Williams are gone, they'll trade down.

The team is switching to the westcoast offense this year and they have Santana Moss (a below avg. #1 wr) and ????? A. Randell El and you don't think they need a wr? I would like to hear some logic behind this guarantee. It isn't like they are loaded or even above avg at the position and the new offense they are running really relies on good, usually tall, wr's are you have neither. I personally will be shocked if they don't upgrade the position but I won't guarantee that cause unlike you I don't have good friends in the front office of the Redskins.

Which rookie WR is going to be able to learn Zorn's WCO and start in week 1?I have no doubts they will upgrade the position during the draft. But they can make much greater improvements to the team by drafting OL or DL in the first round than they can by drafting WR in the first.

Despite the commonly held notion that neither Moss nor Randle El are sufficient WRs 1 and 2, they were not the problem with the offense last year. OL depth (or lack thereof) was by far the biggest problem last year.

I doubt every NFL team is expecting their #1 picks in the draft to start week 1. You try to build a team for the future.

 

[TheFanatic]

Skins WILL NOT TAKE A WR in the 1st rd. If Allen and Williams are gone, they'll trade down.

The team is switching to the westcoast offense this year and they have Santana Moss (a below avg. #1 wr) and ????? A. Randell El and you don't think they need a wr? I would like to hear some logic behind this guarantee. It isn't like they are loaded or even above avg at the position and the new offense they are running really relies on good, usually tall, wr's are you have neither. I personally will be shocked if they don't upgrade the position but I won't guarantee that cause unlike you I don't have good friends in the front office of the Redskins.

Which rookie WR is going to be able to learn Zorn's WCO and start in week 1?I have no doubts they will upgrade the position during the draft. But they can make much greater improvements to the team by drafting OL or DL in the first round than they can by drafting WR in the first.

Despite the commonly held notion that neither Moss nor Randle El are sufficient WRs 1 and 2, they were not the problem with the offense last year. OL depth (or lack thereof) was by far the biggest problem last year.

I doubt every NFL team is expecting their #1 picks in the draft to start week 1. You try to build a team for the future.

Teams drafting in the top 10 are hoping to have a day 1 starter. If it's a QB, maybe not. But teams picking 21st aren't putting game 1 starter at the top of their list of things they want in a player. It would be nice, but not required. Particularly at WR which is another hard position to play as learning the playbook is a lot more intense than say a RB or a lineman.

 

[Blackjacks]

Skins WILL NOT TAKE A WR in the 1st rd. If Allen and Williams are gone, they'll trade down.

The team is switching to the westcoast offense this year and they have Santana Moss (a below avg. #1 wr) and ????? A. Randell El and you don't think they need a wr? I would like to hear some logic behind this guarantee. It isn't like they are loaded or even above avg at the position and the new offense they are running really relies on good, usually tall, wr's are you have neither. I personally will be shocked if they don't upgrade the position but I won't guarantee that cause unlike you I don't have good friends in the front office of the Redskins.

Which rookie WR is going to be able to learn Zorn's WCO and start in week 1?I have no doubts they will upgrade the position during the draft. But they can make much greater improvements to the team by drafting OL or DL in the first round than they can by drafting WR in the first.

Despite the commonly held notion that neither Moss nor Randle El are sufficient WRs 1 and 2, they were not the problem with the offense last year. OL depth (or lack thereof) was by far the biggest problem last year.

I doubt every NFL team is expecting their #1 picks in the draft to start week 1. You try to build a team for the future.

Teams drafting in the top 10 are hoping to have a day 1 starter. If it's a QB, maybe not. But teams picking 21st aren't putting game 1 starter at the top of their list of things they want in a player. It would be nice, but not required. Particularly at WR which is another hard position to play as learning the playbook is a lot more intense than say a RB or a lineman.

Wow!!! It actually seems like your agreeing with me way too much today. Are you feeling okay?

 

[TLEF316]

interesting thought with the Jets taking McKelvin. If the board breaks that way, I'd be in favor of the pick. I don't like Mcfadden.However, the Jets don't really need help in the return game. Leon Washington was almost a pro-bowler last year and Justin Miller, who is coming back from injury, has already been there. Speaking of Miller, the Jets really need to find out if he can make it at any corner spot (looks like a nickle at best at this point.) Otherwise, they need to give him a shot at safety next to Rhodes. Miller is far too gifted physically to just give up on.

Good points but I will only say this. There is no comparision at kick returning skills with Justin Miller/L. Washington to McKelvin. I know it was only college but this guy is regarded as being a better returner than Ginn or Hester coming out of school. Also the big part of that pick was keeping him from the Patriots. A pick that helps them and hurts the best team in their division is the way to go. It's no that I really don't like McFadden. I just don't believe they are going that way with all the PUBLIC attention the Jets have shown hium in the last 2 weeks. You don't let everyone know who you want if you really want him. I also think putting McFadden in New York might be a bad idea with his extra baggage.(I do like Miller and Washington in the return game but good or very good doesn't = excellent)

is mckelvin really that good? i hadn't heard all that. That being said, Leon brought back multiple TD's last year and Miller has made the pro-bowl. Unless you know this kid is gonna be the level of Hester (highly unlikely) you don't take him unless he's the best corner on the board.Like the mock overall. Any one that doesn't have mcfadden's skinny legs running in NY is ok by me.

 

[Blackjacks]

interesting thought with the Jets taking McKelvin. If the board breaks that way, I'd be in favor of the pick. I don't like Mcfadden.However, the Jets don't really need help in the return game. Leon Washington was almost a pro-bowler last year and Justin Miller, who is coming back from injury, has already been there. Speaking of Miller, the Jets really need to find out if he can make it at any corner spot (looks like a nickle at best at this point.) Otherwise, they need to give him a shot at safety next to Rhodes. Miller is far too gifted physically to just give up on.

Good points but I will only say this. There is no comparision at kick returning skills with Justin Miller/L. Washington to McKelvin. I know it was only college but this guy is regarded as being a better returner than Ginn or Hester coming out of school. Also the big part of that pick was keeping him from the Patriots. A pick that helps them and hurts the best team in their division is the way to go. It's no that I really don't like McFadden. I just don't believe they are going that way with all the PUBLIC attention the Jets have shown hium in the last 2 weeks. You don't let everyone know who you want if you really want him. I also think putting McFadden in New York might be a bad idea with his extra baggage.(I do like Miller and Washington in the return game but good or very good doesn't = excellent)

is mckelvin really that good? i hadn't heard all that. That being said, Leon brought back multiple TD's last year and Miller has made the pro-bowl. Unless you know this kid is gonna be the level of Hester (highly unlikely) you don't take him unless he's the best corner on the board.Like the mock overall. Any one that doesn't have mcfadden's skinny legs running in NY is ok by me.

McLevin is considered a highly elite return and a great shutdown corner but you always have to worry about the level of competition he faced. Also I agree. if I was a Jetys fan I don't want McFadden!!!!!!!

 

[Sidewinder16]

Skins WILL NOT TAKE A WR in the 1st rd. If Allen and Williams are gone, they'll trade down.

The team is switching to the westcoast offense this year and they have Santana Moss (a below avg. #1 wr) and ????? A. Randell El and you don't think they need a wr? I would like to hear some logic behind this guarantee. It isn't like they are loaded or even above avg at the position and the new offense they are running really relies on good, usually tall, wr's are you have neither. I personally will be shocked if they don't upgrade the position but I won't guarantee that cause unlike you I don't have good friends in the front office of the Redskins.

Which rookie WR is going to be able to learn Zorn's WCO and start in week 1?I have no doubts they will upgrade the position during the draft. But they can make much greater improvements to the team by drafting OL or DL in the first round than they can by drafting WR in the first.

Despite the commonly held notion that neither Moss nor Randle El are sufficient WRs 1 and 2, they were not the problem with the offense last year. OL depth (or lack thereof) was by far the biggest problem last year.

I doubt every NFL team is expecting their #1 picks in the draft to start week 1. You try to build a team for the future.

Link

It's looking more and more obvious that their dream scenario, where a tackle like Williams or Albert slips to 21, is out the window. And the ability to trade down out of the pick is largely out of their control, and there might not be a team willing to give up enough to trade up.

[Kelly] is leading the group of receivers Washington might end up considering at 21, but, again, they'd prefer to pick from this bunch somewhere in the second round instead.

...the team's attention has turned away from DT - which Greg Blache considered to be a strong position of need - to DE in recent days, again due to factors beyond the club's control.

If they go WR it's not because they want to and it's not because WR is at the top of the "Needs" list.People can ignore that if they want, but I stand by the belief that OL and DL top the list of needs, that the team believes that OL and DL top the list of needs, and that the team wants to come out of the first round with OL or DL.

 

[Blackjacks]

Skins WILL NOT TAKE A WR in the 1st rd. If Allen and Williams are gone, they'll trade down.

The team is switching to the westcoast offense this year and they have Santana Moss (a below avg. #1 wr) and ????? A. Randell El and you don't think they need a wr? I would like to hear some logic behind this guarantee. It isn't like they are loaded or even above avg at the position and the new offense they are running really relies on good, usually tall, wr's are you have neither. I personally will be shocked if they don't upgrade the position but I won't guarantee that cause unlike you I don't have good friends in the front office of the Redskins.

Which rookie WR is going to be able to learn Zorn's WCO and start in week 1?I have no doubts they will upgrade the position during the draft. But they can make much greater improvements to the team by drafting OL or DL in the first round than they can by drafting WR in the first.

Despite the commonly held notion that neither Moss nor Randle El are sufficient WRs 1 and 2, they were not the problem with the offense last year. OL depth (or lack thereof) was by far the biggest problem last year.

I doubt every NFL team is expecting their #1 picks in the draft to start week 1. You try to build a team for the future.

Link

It's looking more and more obvious that their dream scenario, where a tackle like Williams or Albert slips to 21, is out the window. And the ability to trade down out of the pick is largely out of their control, and there might not be a team willing to give up enough to trade up.

[Kelly] is leading the group of receivers Washington might end up considering at 21, but, again, they'd prefer to pick from this bunch somewhere in the second round instead.

...the team's attention has turned away from DT - which Greg Blache considered to be a strong position of need - to DE in recent days, again due to factors beyond the club's control.

If they go WR it's not because they want to and it's not because WR is at the top of the "Needs" list.People can ignore that if they want, but I stand by the belief that OL and DL top the list of needs, that the team believes that OL and DL top the list of needs, and that the team wants to come out of the first round with OL or DL.

I guess that's why the offered their #1 this year and a 3rd next year for Chad Johnson then.....Wait I thoguht they didn't need a wr. Crazy to think they won't spend a #1 this year on one but they'll spend a #1 and a #3 on a wr.

 

[Sidewinder16]

I guess that's why the offered their #1 this year and a 3rd next year for Chad Johnson then.....Wait I thoguht they didn't need a wr. Crazy to think they won't spend a #1 this year on one but they'll spend a #1 and a #3 on a wr.

You can still ignore the 'Skins views on the rookie WRs. I can't stop you.But, since you want to talk CJ...

Chad Johnson <> [insert rookie WR here]

In fact, Chad Johnson >>>>> [insert rookie WR here], and it's not even close. Everyone knows exactly what Chad Johnson is capable of doing in the NFL. Chad Johnson, if acquired, would without a doubt be on the field for the first snap of the regular season. There is no way you can you can say that for any WR in this rookie class.

 

[Blackjacks]

I guess that's why the offered their #1 this year and a 3rd next year for Chad Johnson then.....Wait I thoguht they didn't need a wr. Crazy to think they won't spend a #1 this year on one but they'll spend a #1 and a #3 on a wr.

You can still ignore the 'Skins views on the rookie WRs. I can't stop you.But, since you want to talk CJ...

Chad Johnson <> [insert rookie WR here]

In fact, Chad Johnson >>>>> [insert rookie WR here], and it's not even close. Everyone knows exactly what Chad Johnson is capable of doing in the NFL. Chad Johnson, if acquired, would without a doubt be on the field for the first snap of the regular season. There is no way you can you can say that for any WR in this rookie class.

While I agree with your obvious statement why don't you think the Skins' are talking to KC about Allen if DE is such a big need?The fact is Washington needs recieving help and they are going to do it with a vetern or a rookie.

 

[Sidewinder16]

I guess that's why the offered their #1 this year and a 3rd next year for Chad Johnson then.....Wait I thoguht they didn't need a wr. Crazy to think they won't spend a #1 this year on one but they'll spend a #1 and a #3 on a wr.

You can still ignore the 'Skins views on the rookie WRs. I can't stop you.But, since you want to talk CJ...

Chad Johnson <> [insert rookie WR here]

In fact, Chad Johnson >>>>> [insert rookie WR here], and it's not even close. Everyone knows exactly what Chad Johnson is capable of doing in the NFL. Chad Johnson, if acquired, would without a doubt be on the field for the first snap of the regular season. There is no way you can you can say that for any WR in this rookie class.

While I agree with your obvious statement why don't you think the Skins' are talking to KC about Allen if DE is such a big need?

I've never said that I don't think they are talking to KC. It's been speculated recently and IIRC, they were sniffing around him some last year. I think it's highly likely that they've had some sort of contact with KC (I have my doubts, though, that KC wants to move down that far). But again, acquiring a vet, at any position, with that 1st round pick is very different from using that pick on a rookie.

The fact is Washington needs recieving help and they are going to do it with a vetern or a rookie.

I don't disagree with that at all, as stated. What I disagree with is the thought that the team is best served using their #21 pick on a rookie WR.

 

[Nate]

Interesting mock... Houston really would not pass on Jenkins though, IMO.

 

[shader]

Any mock that has Mcfadden going at 14 is ridiculous.

 

[Tabasco Red]

8) Baltimore - Ryan Clady

Really wanted Ryan but will have to settle with Jonathon Ogden's future replacement. I don't care if you have Boller back there or whoever you need to have a LT and without Ogden Balt just doesn't.

This statement just isn't true. Adam Terry has played much better at LT than he had at RT and played very well last year. They also invested this years 5th in the supplemental draft last year and picked up Jared Gaither, who in limited playing time has looked promising, and it has been speculated would have been a first day pick this year if he hadn't failed out of MD.I seriously doubt Ozzie goes OLine early this year. We need DE, DT, CB, and QB. Expect 2 of the 4 on day 1.