My top 10 at each positon (1 Viewer)

[doowain]

I appreciate your sometimes contrarian viewpoints. It helps spurn discussion (see above) which allows us all to clarify our own thoughts. I haven't begun my own redraft lists yet but thanks for kicking off the discussion. As I recall you were very high on Schaub last year as well (against the grain)...I remember because I was too. Props on that one.

Being high on Schaub last year was against the grain? I don't think so.....unless he had him ranked in the Top 3.

 

[saintfool]

I think there is a new sheriff in town for NO and his name is Bobby Meachem.

Kind of a bold statement.

 

[doowain]

I think there is a new sheriff in town for NO and his name is Bobby Meachem.

Kind of a bold statement.

These types of statements usually have an "I own Meachem in multiple leagues" undertone to them. This one is no different.

 

[heidbrink]

Not picking on you specifically doowain, nor am I jumping to blackjacks defense. But, let me ask a question: Are footballguys high on a player because they own him or do they own him because they're high on him?

Sure there is some rationalization that occurs. Its only human to try to reconcile our actions with our thoughts. But I think moreover we tend to own players we like rather than like players we own.

 

[doowain]

Not picking on you specifically doowain, nor am I jumping to blackjacks defense. But, let me ask a question: Are footballguys high on a player because they own him or do they own him because they're high on him? Sure there is some rationalization that occurs. Its only human to try to reconcile our actions with our thoughts. But I think moreover we tend to own players we like rather than like players we own.

Sure, there is some truth to that, but it's certainly not a blanket statement. Specifically, I don't think it covers "out there" claims like Meachem unseating Colston. You usually only make claims like that when you have the underdog in the fight.

 

[TheFanatic]

Maybe....if the reasons were justifiable.The real reason you should be trading Brady/Moss is their dynasty value inevitably falling off a cliff this year due to age. Not the reasons given by the OP.

Look at his roster and look at these lists:

QB M. Schuab, D. McNabb and Jay CutlerRB DeAngelo Williams, Chris "Beannie" Wells, Jonathon Stewart, Tashard Choice and J. HarrisonWR Calvin Johnson, A. Boldin, Vincent Jackson and Percy HarvinTE J. Finley and Owen DanielsK Kaeding and S. GrahamDef/ST New York Jets and Washington

All three of his QB's are in the top 10. Two of which were not there last year, and one changed teams and lost his stud WR's and has a ####ty line. The other got Mike Martz and if he can handle being hung out to dry and hit almost every play should do well, but if he can't get rid of the ball immediately then he won't.His two main running games are in the top 10 (Carolina and Wells) yet no rookie is listed in the top 10. What's the likelihood that Harrison would've been on the list if Cleveland had not drafted a RB?I'm really surprised that only two of his WR's are in the top 10. Why no Vincent Jackson? That's some remarkable restraint, Timmy. As for Calvin and Boldin, neither is in an ideal situation. Stafford still has a lot of learning to do and Boldin switched teams to a very much run first team with a stout D. His two TE's are in the top 10, which I actually understand and would probably put them higher up the list. You could say it's a chicken and the egg, and these are his projections so he went out and got all these guys, but I say there's a lot of homer bias to his fantasy team. No comment on the Cooley thing and no acknowledgment of the Moss injury contributing to the "body language." And the whole talk of "end of an era" and "body language" in NE are not even worth discussing as valid arguments. They have no logical or statistical backing that can be discussed. They can't be argued. Edelman filled in extremely well when Welker was out as if it was Welker himself playing in the offense but "welker is the glue to the offense?" Might as well argue that blue is a better color than green because your highschool football team had really cool blue helmets...

 

[Mr.Underhill]

Why is it you are so down on the NE offense, Welker? Seriously, that's the only reason? Welker is a beneficiary of the offense, not the glue holding it together IMO. With Brady having a full year under his belt after the surgery (he was far from 100% the 1st half the year at least) I just don't see how there is going to be such a significant drop.

I think Welker is what makes that offense go.Brady wasn't the dominant fantasy player we are use to without McDaniels.

Add in the fact that Randy Moss is starting to act like the Moss from 2007 and I'm just not really liking what I am seeing.

As I mentioned, you are entitled to your opinion and can project/predict whatever you want. But . . .Brady had his second best fantasty scoring season last year. 2007 was the year that didn't mix with the rest of his career. The reason why it LOOKED like he wasn't a high scoring QB is that there were a ton of other equally high scroing QBs last year.

David, I really respect your opinion, really I do, especially when it comes to your Patriots. However watching that team closely last year I saw the end of an era in NE last year. If Welker can't make it back I'm doubting they make the playoffs and wouldn't be shocked at all if they weren't even .500The creativity just isn't there on the offensive side at all. They are counting on 2 rookie TE's. They are majorly lacking anything that resembles a running game.

If they I will absolutely shocked if they are any better than 3-4 heading into week 9 @ Cle and if they lose that game you can count out Moss for the rest of the year.

I know my ranking aren't typical, and that's fine. I wanted to be alittle different.

I was OK with your rankings up until you said that.Wanting to be different isn't any better than wanting to be the same.

Do your rankings. If they look like everyone else's, so what? If they look like no one else's, so what?

Now it's starting to look like your deviations are intentionally calculated and maybe even exaggerated to stir up attention or controversy. What are you, a shock jock?

 

[MJD_Mafia]

My top 3 RBs are

1. LenDale White

2. Kevin Smith

3. Marshawn Lynch

There. I'll be famous now!

 

[Blackjacks]

I think there is a new sheriff in town for NO and his name is Bobby Meachem.

Kind of a bold statement.

These types of statements usually have an "I own Meachem in multiple leagues" undertone to them. This one is no different.

I actually just traded him but it hurt. I see him having a very good year next year

 

[Blackjacks]

Why is it you are so down on the NE offense, Welker? Seriously, that's the only reason? Welker is a beneficiary of the offense, not the glue holding it together IMO. With Brady having a full year under his belt after the surgery (he was far from 100% the 1st half the year at least) I just don't see how there is going to be such a significant drop.

I think Welker is what makes that offense go.Brady wasn't the dominant fantasy player we are use to without McDaniels.

Add in the fact that Randy Moss is starting to act like the Moss from 2007 and I'm just not really liking what I am seeing.

As I mentioned, you are entitled to your opinion and can project/predict whatever you want. But . . .Brady had his second best fantasty scoring season last year. 2007 was the year that didn't mix with the rest of his career. The reason why it LOOKED like he wasn't a high scoring QB is that there were a ton of other equally high scroing QBs last year.

waDavid, I re

ally respect your opinion, really I do, especially when it comes to your Patriots. However watching that team closely last year I saw the end of an era in NE last year. If Welker can't make it back I'm doubting they make the playoffs and wouldn't be shocked at all if they weren't even .500+

The creativity just isn't there on the offensive side at all. They are counting on 2 rookie TE's. They are majorly lacking anything that resembles a running game.

If they I will absolutely shocked if they are any better than 3-4 heading into week 9 @ Cle and if they lose that game you can count out Moss for the rest of the year.

I know my ranking aren't typical, and that's fine. I wanted to be alittle different.

I was OK with your rankings up until you said that.Wanting to be different isn't any better than wanting to be the same.

Do your rankings. If they look like everyone else's, so what? If they look like no one else's, so what?

Now it's starting to look like your deviations are intentionally calculated and maybe even exaggerated to stir up attention or controversy. What are you, a shock jock?

I think I meant I didn't just want to say I like this guy or I think this guy might be good. I wanted to actually put on paper where I rank these guys and go back next yea and brag or take the punishment I deserve. I see where your coming from though with the way I said that.

 

[Blackjacks]

Maybe....if the reasons were justifiable.The real reason you should be trading Brady/Moss is their dynasty value inevitably falling off a cliff this year due to age. Not the reasons given by the OP.

Look at his roster and look at these lists:

QB M. Schuab, D. McNabb and Jay CutlerRB DeAngelo Williams, Chris "Beannie" Wells, Jonathon Stewart, Tashard Choice and J. HarrisonWR Calvin Johnson, A. Boldin, Vincent Jackson and Percy HarvinTE J. Finley and Owen DanielsK Kaeding and S. GrahamDef/ST New York Jets and Washington

All three of his QB's are in the top 10. Two of which were not there last year, and one changed teams and lost his stud WR's and has a ####ty line. The other got Mike Martz and if he can handle being hung out to dry and hit almost every play should do well, but if he can't get rid of the ball immediately then he won't.His two main running games are in the top 10 (Carolina and Wells) yet no rookie is listed in the top 10. What's the likelihood that Harrison would've been on the list if Cleveland had not drafted a RB?I'm really surprised that only two of his WR's are in the top 10. Why no Vincent Jackson? That's some remarkable restraint, Timmy. As for Calvin and Boldin, neither is in an ideal situation. Stafford still has a lot of learning to do and Boldin switched teams to a very much run first team with a stout D. His two TE's are in the top 10, which I actually understand and would probably put them higher up the list. You could say it's a chicken and the egg, and these are his projections so he went out and got all these guys, but I say there's a lot of homer bias to his fantasy team. No comment on the Cooley thing and no acknowledgment of the Moss injury contributing to the "body language." And the whole talk of "end of an era" and "body language" in NE are not even worth discussing as valid arguments. They have no logical or statistical backing that can be discussed. They can't be argued. Edelman filled in extremely well when Welker was out as if it was Welker himself playing in the offense but "welker is the glue to the offense?" Might as well argue that blue is a better color than green because your highschool football team had really cool blue helmets...

I think some people like to acquire people they are high on going into the year.Like last year, I was really high on Ray Rice unlike you. I acquired Rice due to seeing great ability and a very good situation. You on the otherhand were pimping some fullback on the team and making fun of others that were getting on the Rice bandwagon. I personally am glad I went out in the offseason and saw what I did in Rice because he led me to a championship. I don't think McClain did to good for you but that's okay. Keep saying I'm a homer. I have rebuild half my team on people I think are going to have big years and got rid of people that I think are ready to take a dip.

 

[towney]

Good list but I'd move Vernon Davis up to top 5 TE.

 

[Donnybrook]

Why is it you are so down on the NE offense, Welker? Seriously, that's the only reason? Welker is a beneficiary of the offense, not the glue holding it together IMO. With Brady having a full year under his belt after the surgery (he was far from 100% the 1st half the year at least) I just don't see how there is going to be such a significant drop.

I think Welker is what makes that offense go.Brady wasn't the dominant fantasy player we are use to without McDaniels.

Add in the fact that Randy Moss is starting to act like the Moss from 2007 and I'm just not really liking what I am seeing.

You mean the Moss who set the all time record for TD catches in a season? That Randy Moss?

According to Blackjacks, Moss had a bad year but he still managed to score 9 more TDs than Boldin who just so happens to be in his top 10 and on his fantasy roster. Quite the coincidence.

 

[Blackjacks]

Why is it you are so down on the NE offense, Welker? Seriously, that's the only reason? Welker is a beneficiary of the offense, not the glue holding it together IMO. With Brady having a full year under his belt after the surgery (he was far from 100% the 1st half the year at least) I just don't see how there is going to be such a significant drop.

I think Welker is what makes that offense go.Brady wasn't the dominant fantasy player we are use to without McDaniels.

Add in the fact that Randy Moss is starting to act like the Moss from 2007 and I'm just not really liking what I am seeing.

You mean the Moss who set the all time record for TD catches in a season? That Randy Moss?

According to Blackjacks, Moss had a bad year but he still managed to score 9 more TDs than Boldin who just so happens to be in his top 10 and on his fantasy roster. Quite the coincidence.

Moss was the #2 wr last year and led me to a championship. Please find where I said he had a bad year last year.........please find it and get back to me.

 

[Donnybrook]

Why is it you are so down on the NE offense, Welker? Seriously, that's the only reason? Welker is a beneficiary of the offense, not the glue holding it together IMO. With Brady having a full year under his belt after the surgery (he was far from 100% the 1st half the year at least) I just don't see how there is going to be such a significant drop.

I think Welker is what makes that offense go.Brady wasn't the dominant fantasy player we are use to without McDaniels.

Add in the fact that Randy Moss is starting to act like the Moss from 2007 and I'm just not really liking what I am seeing.

You mean the Moss who set the all time record for TD catches in a season? That Randy Moss?

According to Blackjacks, Moss had a bad year but he still managed to score 9 more TDs than Boldin who just so happens to be in his top 10 and on his fantasy roster. Quite the coincidence.

Moss was the #2 wr last year and led me to a championship. Please find where I said he had a bad year last year.........please find it and get back to me.

"Randy Moss is starting to act like the Moss from 2007" . Please tell me how am I supposed to interpret that? Don't bother answering I could careless about your opinion.

 

[Blackjacks]

That's what I thought Donnybrook. I never said he had a bad year, thanks.

I know I have gone out on a ledge here but please don't put words in my mouth.

Saying a guy is starting to act like a problem again and saying he had a bad year last year are totally different

 

[TheFanatic]

Maybe....if the reasons were justifiable.

The real reason you should be trading Brady/Moss is their dynasty value inevitably falling off a cliff this year due to age. Not the reasons given by the OP.

Look at his roster and look at these lists:

QB M. Schuab, D. McNabb and Jay Cutler

RB DeAngelo Williams, Chris "Beannie" Wells, Jonathon Stewart, Tashard Choice and J. Harrison

WR Calvin Johnson, A. Boldin, Vincent Jackson and Percy Harvin

TE J. Finley and Owen Daniels

K Kaeding and S. Graham

Def/ST New York Jets and Washington

All three of his QB's are in the top 10. Two of which were not there last year, and one changed teams and lost his stud WR's and has a ####ty line. The other got Mike Martz and if he can handle being hung out to dry and hit almost every play should do well, but if he can't get rid of the ball immediately then he won't.His two main running games are in the top 10 (Carolina and Wells) yet no rookie is listed in the top 10. What's the likelihood that Harrison would've been on the list if Cleveland had not drafted a RB?

I'm really surprised that only two of his WR's are in the top 10. Why no Vincent Jackson? That's some remarkable restraint, Timmy. As for Calvin and Boldin, neither is in an ideal situation. Stafford still has a lot of learning to do and Boldin switched teams to a very much run first team with a stout D.

His two TE's are in the top 10, which I actually understand and would probably put them higher up the list.

You could say it's a chicken and the egg, and these are his projections so he went out and got all these guys, but I say there's a lot of homer bias to his fantasy team. No comment on the Cooley thing and no acknowledgment of the Moss injury contributing to the "body language." And the whole talk of "end of an era" and "body language" in NE are not even worth discussing as valid arguments. They have no logical or statistical backing that can be discussed. They can't be argued. Edelman filled in extremely well when Welker was out as if it was Welker himself playing in the offense but "welker is the glue to the offense?"

Might as well argue that blue is a better color than green because your highschool football team had really cool blue helmets...

I think some people like to acquire people they are high on going into the year.

Like last year, I was really high on Ray Rice unlike you. I acquired Rice due to seeing great ability and a very good situation. You on the otherhand were pimping some fullback on the team and making fun of others that were getting on the Rice bandwagon. I personally am glad I went out in the offseason and saw what I did in Rice because he led me to a championship. I don't think McClain did to good for you but that's okay. Keep saying I'm a homer. I have rebuild half my team on people I think are going to have big years and got rid of people that I think are ready to take a dip.

You mean the guy I cut after I couldn't get a pick out of you for him? There's pimping a guy to up his value in the trade market and there's riding the guy all year. You should no the difference.But keep going on about how Moss shouldn't be on the list because he's looking like he did in 2007, but Boldin, whom you just traded Moss for, is destined to be top 10 with Flacco in Baltimore. Or how Beanie Wells should be top 10 without Warner or Boldin taking heat off of Fitz and the run game? Or disregard the Cooley comments entirely.

This is nothing more than, "I think my team is so good and here are my rankings to prove it."

 

[Blackjacks]

I'll stop right there with the arguement with the Fanatic. Someone who admits he just puts stuff out here to pimp his own guys for trade purposes.

Everyone remember that for now on when reading his posts.

Back to the rankings, hopefully some agreements since we have heard alot of disagreements in earlier posts.

 

[ArcticEdge]

You want to be in my fantasy football league?

I knew someone would come up with this highly thought out response.

It's a money league, you could win money.

 

[TheFanatic]

I'll stop right there with the arguement with the Fanatic. Someone who admits he just puts stuff out here to pimp his own guys for trade purposes.Everyone remember that for now on when reading his posts.Back to the rankings, hopefully some agreements since we have heard alot of disagreements in earlier posts.

Another solid post. More sound logic and statistic defending your cheer leading of your squad with your rankings. Oh, wait...Time to put this thread to bed.

 

[Jayrod]

You want to be in my fantasy football league?

I knew someone would come up with this highly thought out response.

It's a money league, you could win money.

 

[gehazi]

mcnabb and f davis in the top 10 is crazy. mcnabb has never put up good numbers with his TEs. was he even a top 10 qb last year with an amazing offense? that line in washington is so awful.

Your thoughts are welcomedI think McNabb has worked very well with his TE's in the pastChad Lewis top 10 back to back years (#4 in 2000)LJ Smith back to back top 10Brent Celek was #4 last yearEvery season McNabb has played in all 16 games he has been in the top 10New coach who has an excelent reputation with Olines and just spent the #4 overall pick on a left tackleAs for Davis he really started to "get it" the 2nd half of the season last year

So do you just see Cooley disappearing?

 

[doowain]

mcnabb and f davis in the top 10 is crazy. mcnabb has never put up good numbers with his TEs. was he even a top 10 qb last year with an amazing offense? that line in washington is so awful.

Your thoughts are welcomedI think McNabb has worked very well with his TE's in the pastChad Lewis top 10 back to back years (#4 in 2000)LJ Smith back to back top 10Brent Celek was #4 last yearEvery season McNabb has played in all 16 games he has been in the top 10New coach who has an excelent reputation with Olines and just spent the #4 overall pick on a left tackleAs for Davis he really started to "get it" the 2nd half of the season last year

So do you just see Cooley disappearing?

You won't get a straight answer on that. I've already brought that up. My guess is that he didn't realize how good Cooley has been the last 5 years. And he's still fairly young.

 

[griff321]

I'd have Shiancoe on that list before I'd put Davis on it.

 

[Blackjacks]

mcnabb and f davis in the top 10 is crazy. mcnabb has never put up good numbers with his TEs. was he even a top 10 qb last year with an amazing offense? that line in washington is so awful.

Your thoughts are welcomedI think McNabb has worked very well with his TE's in the past

Chad Lewis top 10 back to back years (#4 in 2000)

LJ Smith back to back top 10

Brent Celek was #4 last year

Every season McNabb has played in all 16 games he has been in the top 10

New coach who has an excelent reputation with Olines and just spent the #4 overall pick on a left tackle

As for Davis he really started to "get it" the 2nd half of the season last year

So do you just see Cooley disappearing?

You won't get a straight answer on that. I've already brought that up. My guess is that he didn't realize how good Cooley has been the last 5 years. And he's still fairly young.

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I watched Davis play and I watched Cooley and I see Davis getting alot more catches than Cooley this year.

No scientific reason except he is more talented.

If you wanting some form of logic I guess it would be that Cooley is a better blocker and might help stay in while in 2 te sets and Davis would go out into a pattern.

I shouldn't have downgraded Cooley as much as promote Davis earlier.

I'm sure Cooley while still be a good te this year I just won't be drafting him

seems pretty straight forward here bro

 

[Blackjacks]

I'd have Shiancoe on that list before I'd put Davis on it.

Is that with Favre or without?If Favre plays I could see Shiancoe in the top 10 at te and I could see Rice in the top 10 at wr but without Favre I see neither.Since we don't know at this time what heis going to do I kept them off. However, I agree, with Favre he should be in or close to the top 10.

 

[TheFanatic]

Now I know why no Vincent Jackson on the list. You had a deal set up to trade the guy. More confirmation of rah, rah, rah, your team is so good based on your projections you should win the SB no problem this year....

 

[karmarooster]

Not picking on you specifically doowain, nor am I jumping to blackjacks defense. But, let me ask a question: Are footballguys high on a player because they own him or do they own him because they're high on him? Sure there is some rationalization that occurs. Its only human to try to reconcile our actions with our thoughts. But I think moreover we tend to own players we like rather than like players we own.

Probably the only intelligent/constructive thing said on the 2nd page of this thread. The rest looks rather petty by FBGs standards...However I wanted to add to the discussion that I recently went out and acquired Felix Jones in my dynasty league. I was rather high on him, and then read the news about him being promoted to first team, and then read that he practiced as the starting RB at the recent OTAs. I figure now is the time to get him on the relative cheap, because I'm expecting him to blow up this year. If I were to make a top 10 for myself, I would probably put him somewhere 8-10. Part of that would probably be to justify the high price I paid to get him (rather ego driven, but at least I'm honest). I wouldn't have gone out to get him if I didn't think he had a good shot at becoming the next stud RB. Consider, last year the only RBs to average 5.9 ypc were Chris Johnson and Felix Jones. Only small problem is that CJ carried the ball about 200 more times...Anyone care to comment? The usual suspects will offer usual responses about his injury propensity. That is of course deserved, so lets just get it out of the way now. It may be that his injuries were simply a result of bad luck. It could also be that he's just now 23 years old and still growing into his body, and thus will be healthier in the future. Or he could be "injury prone" (something I don't really buy into unless your Yao Ming). I understand gambling on Felix to stay healthy is a risk. But I also think the reward for 16 healthy games is great enough to justify the cost. IF he were to play in all 16 games how well could he do as the starter in Dallas?In the interest of disclosure here's what I gave up to get him: gave up Ray Rice for Felix and Dez Bryant, then I flipped Bryant, Schilens, and draft picks for Andre Johnson.

 

[Blackjacks]

Now I know why no Vincent Jackson on the list. You had a deal set up to trade the guy. More confirmation of rah, rah, rah, your team is so good based on your projections you should win the SB no problem this year....

I traded him cause I didn't see him as a top 10 player. Considering I finished 1st last year and you finished last maybe you should take notes instead of trying to find loop holes. If I didn't like a guy wouldn't I want to trade him......is it really that hard of a concept to get????????

 

[baldbird]

I think we all know how fantasy football works fellas The list dont stay the same year after year players fall and players rise. There is nothing wrong with his list .This is how he sees it and hell he may be spot on . I see a few changes I would make but that dont make me right . So whoever has a crystal ball please step up and give us the perfect list

 

[Blackjacks]

I think we all know how fantasy football works fellas The list dont stay the same year after year players fall and players rise. There is nothing wrong with his list .This is how he sees it and hell he may be spot on . I see a few changes I would make but that dont make me right . So whoever has a crystal ball please step up and give us the perfect list

 

[doowain]

Not picking on you specifically doowain, nor am I jumping to blackjacks defense. But, let me ask a question: Are footballguys high on a player because they own him or do they own him because they're high on him?

Sure there is some rationalization that occurs. Its only human to try to reconcile our actions with our thoughts. But I think moreover we tend to own players we like rather than like players we own.

Probably the only intelligent/constructive thing said on the 2nd page of this thread. The rest looks rather petty by FBGs standards...However I wanted to add to the discussion that I recently went out and acquired Felix Jones in my dynasty league. I was rather high on him, and then read the news about him being promoted to first team, and then read that he practiced as the starting RB at the recent OTAs. I figure now is the time to get him on the relative cheap, because I'm expecting him to blow up this year. If I were to make a top 10 for myself, I would probably put him somewhere 8-10. Part of that would probably be to justify the high price I paid to get him (rather ego driven, but at least I'm honest). I wouldn't have gone out to get him if I didn't think he had a good shot at becoming the next stud RB.

Consider, last year the only RBs to average 5.9 ypc were Chris Johnson and Felix Jones. Only small problem is that CJ carried the ball about 200 more times...

Anyone care to comment? The usual suspects will offer usual responses about his injury propensity. That is of course deserved, so lets just get it out of the way now. It may be that his injuries were simply a result of bad luck. It could also be that he's just now 23 years old and still growing into his body, and thus will be healthier in the future. Or he could be "injury prone" (something I don't really buy into unless your Yao Ming). I understand gambling on Felix to stay healthy is a risk. But I also think the reward for 16 healthy games is great enough to justify the cost. IF he were to play in all 16 games how well could he do as the starter in Dallas?

In the interest of disclosure here's what I gave up to get him: gave up Ray Rice for Felix and Dez Bryant, then I flipped Bryant, Schilens, and draft picks for Andre Johnson.

He posted his rankings and we have voiced our disagreements on them. Should he have expected us all to agree with him and pat him on the back for a job well done? Going out on a limb and posting your own personal rankings promotes disagreement. I'm not sure how you can be "constructive" and disagree at the same time."I disagree with where you ranked CJ3. He should be higher. Because he's good."

If those are the responses you expect and want for threads like this.....then threads like this will die and buried on page 2 about as quickly as it takes to post them.

 

[doowain]

You won't get a straight answer on that. I've already brought that up. My guess is that he didn't realize how good Cooley has been the last 5 years. And he's still fairly young.

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I watched Davis play and I watched Cooley and I see Davis getting alot more catches than Cooley this year.

No scientific reason except he is more talented.

If you wanting some form of logic I guess it would be that Cooley is a better blocker and might help stay in while in 2 te sets and Davis would go out into a pattern.

I shouldn't have downgraded Cooley as much as promote Davis earlier.

I'm sure Cooley while still be a good te this year I just won't be drafting him

seems pretty straight forward here bro

They upgraded the o-line via the draft, so Cooley shouldn't be asked to sit in the trenches as much this year. Even though you addressed my question, you still skirted Cooley's production in the past 4-5 years. I disagree on Davis being more talented. More athletically gifted? Probably. More talented? I don't think so....at least not at this point. Unless you think Davis is capable of multiple Top 5 finishes in a row.Here's a blurb that came out recently, BRO....

(FFChamps) Washington Redskins Tight End, Chris Cooley, will have a larger role in the passing game according to Offensive Coordinator, Kyle Shanahan. Quarterback-Donovan McNabb also indicated Cooley will be heavily involved in 2010.

Analysis: Shanahan was the Texans Offensive Coordinator in 2009 and helped TE Owen Daniels score five TDs and gain nearly 600 yards in eight games. Cooley is already one of the leagues most talented Tight Ends and Shanahans system will help him remain on the Elite level.

 

[David Yudkin]

I don't mind when people put together a list that is off the beaten track, and many times it can be refreshing. My only concern is when people seem to pull stuff out of left field but give no reason or justification for it.

I still think that a huge component of year end player rankings is health and injury. IMO, that includes the individual player but also other skill position players and linemen. I believe that that accounts for a huge chunk of the annual turnover in the rankings.

That's where I think it is next to impossible to predict everything that happens over the course of a season. Which left tackle will go on IR after Week 1? Which primadonna is going to get suspended for lewd and lascivious behavior? Which running back is going to roll an ankle and be hobbled all season? Which receiver is going to pull a hammy the week before the season starts? Who's going to be the next victim to an ACL tear? Who is going to be the upstart youngster that takes over and does gangbuster? Which all pro QB will get seriously hurt and take his receivers down with him? Which team is going to cruise to the playoffs and start benching their starters during the fanatasy playoffs?

Most of those are not very predictable. In 2008, anyone that left Tom Brady off of the QB rankings after throwing 50 TD passes would have been humiliated on these very boards and anyone that had Matt Cassel down instead would have been the laughing stock of the Shark Pool. Clearly anything can happen. But some explanation as to why someone would do that is pretty much required or else it looks like someone pulled names out of a hat. I'm guessing not many people had Brent Celek, Miles Austin, and Jamal Charles on their radar and in their rankings when the season started.

 

[road warrior]

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[TheFanatic]

I don't mind when people put together a list that is off the beaten track, and many times it can be refreshing. My only concern is when people seem to pull stuff out of left field but give no reason or justification for it.

I still think that a huge component of year end player rankings is health and injury. IMO, that includes the individual player but also other skill position players and linemen. I believe that that accounts for a huge chunk of the annual turnover in the rankings.

That's where I think it is next to impossible to predict everything that happens over the course of a season. Which left tackle will go on IR after Week 1? Which primadonna is going to get suspended for lewd and lascivious behavior? Which running back is going to roll an ankle and be hobbled all season? Which receiver is going to pull a hammy the week before the season starts? Who's going to be the next victim to an ACL tear? Who is going to be the upstart youngster that takes over and does gangbuster? Which all pro QB will get seriously hurt and take his receivers down with him? Which team is going to cruise to the playoffs and start benching their starters during the fanatasy playoffs?

Most of those are not very predictable. In 2008, anyone that left Tom Brady off of the QB rankings after throwing 50 TD passes would have been humiliated on these very boards and anyone that had Matt Cassel down instead would have been the laughing stock of the Shark Pool. Clearly anything can happen. But some explanation as to why someone would do that is pretty much required or else it looks like someone pulled names out of a hat. I'm guessing not many people had Brent Celek, Miles Austin, and Jamal Charles on their radar and in their rankings when the season started.

Or tried to justify why they think their team will win. This is a rah rah homer piece and nothing more. Nobody can honestly put Wells in the top 10 and then take out Moss whom he just traded "because he looks like he did in 2007 with body language?" WTF is that? It's comical.... Sometime we trade away top 10 players and some have can't accept that this may happen....