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Need opinion from skilled architect or structural engineer. Help! (1 Viewer)

Pipe down- he said "skilled" architect.

;)

Still curious what an engineer or builder thinks about my idea for just one N/S beam dying into the corner of the of the garage where it opens up. Then tie the beams framing the long-sides of both openings into that. 1 long beams N/S, 2 long beams E/W, plus two more short beams catching the stair and opening (framing out the landing). 1 column (or cross brace the studs of the wall continuing to the North).

 
That this whole framing fiasco couldn't be solved by a redesign of the plans which made the stairs work with the framing.

I've never had an engineer spec over a triple on anything. Really never over a double without going with an engineered wood beam or steel. Also, why 2x8s if you could go to 12s or engineered joists? Just because there existing is becoming irrelevant when you're talking 5 2x8s m

 
gotcha. totally with you and davinci on the 5x 2x8s (or 2x8s in general here).

the original design had the stairs on the West wall, which is what both you and I thought would make the most sense. OP says there's not enough head room at the landing in that configuration. There are ways of making the stair work so that the landing occurs further back for enough head room, but his architects got design-y, and made what looks like could be a cool layout- just more expensive. :shrug: Without seeing the floor plans for the 1st and 2nd floor, I'm just guessing on this- but in my head, that could be a pretty cool layout. For an ADU? I'd go cheap and easy... but that's just me.

 
Have you talked to a good framing contractor? They might have a idea to make it work with what you have and pass codes.

 
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As you can see, there's not enough room to have the stairs wrap around on the west side to make the headroom work at the landing.

I'm having my architects (the green ones) eliminate the extra space both at the stairs and other opening. Then I'll get the edit back and the calc's will be ran again.

I'll ask why not an engineered beam for that last design.

:kicksrock:

 
gotcha. totally with you and davinci on the 5x 2x8s (or 2x8s in general here).

the original design had the stairs on the West wall, which is what both you and I thought would make the most sense. OP says there's not enough head room at the landing in that configuration. There are ways of making the stair work so that the landing occurs further back for enough head room, but his architects got design-y, and made what looks like could be a cool layout- just more expensive. :shrug: Without seeing the floor plans for the 1st and 2nd floor, I'm just guessing on this- but in my head, that could be a pretty cool layout. For an ADU? I'd go cheap and easy... but that's just me.
We originally had the stairs wrapping from west to south wall, eliminating the clearance issue. But, I decided to move the bathroom into that corner so there could be much more concentrated living space at the other end of the room.

 
gotcha. totally with you and davinci on the 5x 2x8s (or 2x8s in general here).

the original design had the stairs on the West wall, which is what both you and I thought would make the most sense. OP says there's not enough head room at the landing in that configuration. There are ways of making the stair work so that the landing occurs further back for enough head room, but his architects got design-y, and made what looks like could be a cool layout- just more expensive. :shrug: Without seeing the floor plans for the 1st and 2nd floor, I'm just guessing on this- but in my head, that could be a pretty cool layout. For an ADU? I'd go cheap and easy... but that's just me.
We originally had the stairs wrapping from west to south wall, eliminating the clearance issue. But, I decided to move the bathroom into that corner so there could be much more concentrated living space at the other end of the room.
I couldn't see floor 2 (needed permission), but Floor 1 looks good.

 
Pipe down- he said "skilled" architect.

;)

Still curious what an engineer or builder thinks about my idea for just one N/S beam dying into the corner of the of the garage where it opens up. Then tie the beams framing the long-sides of both openings into that. 1 long beams N/S, 2 long beams E/W, plus two more short beams catching the stair and opening (framing out the landing). 1 column (or cross brace the studs of the wall continuing to the North).
I just sent this question to the guy that ran the calc's....

 
gotcha. totally with you and davinci on the 5x 2x8s (or 2x8s in general here).

the original design had the stairs on the West wall, which is what both you and I thought would make the most sense. OP says there's not enough head room at the landing in that configuration. There are ways of making the stair work so that the landing occurs further back for enough head room, but his architects got design-y, and made what looks like could be a cool layout- just more expensive. :shrug: Without seeing the floor plans for the 1st and 2nd floor, I'm just guessing on this- but in my head, that could be a pretty cool layout. For an ADU? I'd go cheap and easy... but that's just me.
We originally had the stairs wrapping from west to south wall, eliminating the clearance issue. But, I decided to move the bathroom into that corner so there could be much more concentrated living space at the other end of the room.
I couldn't see floor 2 (needed permission), but Floor 1 looks good.
Ooops, you should be able to see it now.

 

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