Let's be clear about something. The issue with net neutrality has nothing to do with monthly caps on consumers. Some ISP's already do that. Net neutrality is about allowing ISP's to prioritize one type of traffic over another. So, they could offer offer Netflix priority over Amazon streaming. For a price. This kills competition because a new, up and coming service won't be able to pay ISP's. And it will cause the cost of services like Netflix to rise to cover the payment to the ISP.
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Net Neutrality Dealt A Blow (1 Viewer)
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matttyl
Footballguy
matttyl
Footballguy
Jim11
Footballguy
Don't know...I don't see it on my Comcast account either. Possibly because they're not enforcing a limit currently?
culdeus
Footballguy
You know how torrents work? Everyone has a little bit of a file on their computer and uploads it because upload bandwith capacity is by all accounts 200x of d/l capacity. That's "peering".
Sooooo, in exchange for a netflix account you could host lets say House of Cards on your system. A tiny amount of your upstream would be serving it to hundreds of other people. If they could isolate it geographically, even better.
Now they magically, and I'm not joking, just increased their capacity by hundreds of times over.
But by all means legislate this #### to the dark ages.
NutterButter
Footballguy
I thought net neutrality was about throttling of certain content providers and not bandwidth caps? Cablevision has had a bandwidth limit clause in their usage policy for years.
And once Fios came to my neighborhood, my internet with Cablevision improved dramatically with no extra cost so even though its just the 2 providers, that extra competition has been very beneficial to me.
And once Fios came to my neighborhood, my internet with Cablevision improved dramatically with no extra cost so even though its just the 2 providers, that extra competition has been very beneficial to me.
Josie Maran
Footballguy
Bogeys
Footballguy
ETA: Just read back through, that tangent started when Matttyl was asking why his 2 person household should pay the same as a 4 person household. Didn't really have anything to do with net neutrality so still
for me for helping to take it on the tangent.
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None_More_Black
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Google comcast usage meter andyou will find it. I am using 1.5 tb a month and I don't even watch movies. It's all from seeding like 20 torrents. (most of which are less then 500 mb) amazing.
Jim11
Footballguy
top dog
Footballguy
Wow. Seeding is bumping you up that much? The wife and I generally watch at least an hour of netflix or amazon prime every day. Some days more. Plus my son is constantly streaming some stupid youtube video and playing on XBOX live. On Time Warner Xtreme plan (30 mbps). Our average usage over the last 4 months was only 180.5GB per month with a peak of 247 GB in April.
AhrnCityPahnder
Yinz-o-riffic
stiffles innovation.
Telcos get to double dip on payments (one payment from you, one from the company that wants to get you content (ex, netflix, hulu, pandora, etc).
What these stupid, shortsighted ISPs don't understand is that the moar internet they build framework for, the moar content can be delivered on it, and the MOAR people will subscribe for a fat pipe (paging wetdream). They are seeing a golden goose they can run to the bank with to kill it and deposit the profits, rather than realizing that riding out this wave of whats happening now and trending higher is good for EVERYONE ... Content providers, ISPs, consumers, start ups with cool new stuff. ISPs want to take the good away from everyone else and keep it all themselves.
####in' Idiots.
Telcos get to double dip on payments (one payment from you, one from the company that wants to get you content (ex, netflix, hulu, pandora, etc).
What these stupid, shortsighted ISPs don't understand is that the moar internet they build framework for, the moar content can be delivered on it, and the MOAR people will subscribe for a fat pipe (paging wetdream). They are seeing a golden goose they can run to the bank with to kill it and deposit the profits, rather than realizing that riding out this wave of whats happening now and trending higher is good for EVERYONE ... Content providers, ISPs, consumers, start ups with cool new stuff. ISPs want to take the good away from everyone else and keep it all themselves.
####in' Idiots.
Mister CIA
Footballguy
Sounds like Comcast has built a great broadband infrastructure and "bundled" it with crapping marketing and a variety of poor business decisions - and now they want a congressional handout to make amends for the latter.
None_More_Black
Footballguy
I leave my computer on 24/7 so that may be a big part of it. I am seeding a couple 8 gig games and that adds up. Still shocked as I do no movie streaming and very little youtube or music. My network is protected so no freeloaders either.
Norman Paperman
Footballguy
I don't know if we are average or not - but we are using about 300 GB a month - streaming mostly netflix and hulu+, TV(s) are streaming something maybe a total of 4 hours a day on average.Bucky86 said:How many GB's does the average cord cutter use?matttyl said:While I'd be totally opposed to any cap, it doesn't seem like it would affect many people:mquinnjr said:Literally just saw this link on Google finance after posting the above re:Comcast charging for data overages like cell phone carriers: http://money.cnn.com/2014/05/15/technology/comcast-data-limits/
"He speculated that the limit might be set at 350 gigabytes or 500 gigabytes per month."
Norman Paperman
Footballguy
thisJosie Maran said:Sometimes more than one person can live in a house and use the Internet for streaming content.matttyl said:Hmm, maybe I was thinking DVD quality video being 1 GB/hr. Sorry for the mixup. Even so, that's still 4-5.5 hours of HD quality video being streamed each day. Still wouldn't affect most people.MattFancy said:That was from help.netflix.com. Said SD video can be up tp 1 GB/hr and HD can be up to 3GB/hr.matttyl said:Is it really that high? Or is that the new 4k video quality or whatever it's called? Also, how much of Netflix' library is in this 3GB/hr range? I thought much of their stuff was either 720p or even SD quality?MattFancy said:Could use up to 3GB/hr on HD video from Netflix.Bucky86 said:How many GB's does the average cord cutter use?matttyl said:While I'd be totally opposed to any cap, it doesn't seem like it would affect many people:"He speculated that the limit might be set at 350 gigabytes or 500 gigabytes per month."mquinnjr said:Literally just saw this link on Google finance after posting the above re:Comcast charging for data overages like cell phone carriers: http://money.cnn.com/2014/05/15/technology/comcast-data-limits/
NutterButter
Footballguy
Makes sense. There could be literally thousands of people requesting pieces of each of those 20 torrents every day.
