New Orleans "other" WRs (1 Viewer)

[whodeywhodey]

I'm loving a late round pick-up of Patten this year. Or even Meachem.

I think that NO's offense this year is going to be in the top 5. And a late round pick on Patten just might give you a WR that will outproduce a lot of the other WR1s on lesser teams.

Is anyone else with me in this late round steal?

 

[joffer]

i'm very high on Patten as well, especially in PPR leagues.

 

[Anthony Borbely]

I'm loving a late round pick-up of Patten this year. Or even Meachem.I think that NO's offense this year is going to be in the top 5. And a late round pick on Patten just might give you a WR that will outproduce a lot of the other WR1s on lesser teams.Is anyone else with me in this late round steal?

I was a lot higher on Meachem/Patten before they traded for Shockey. Now the WR2 is the 4th option in the passing game.

 

[ChrisCooleyFan]

I'm loving a late round pick-up of Patten this year. Or even Meachem.I think that NO's offense this year is going to be in the top 5. And a late round pick on Patten just might give you a WR that will outproduce a lot of the other WR1s on lesser teams.Is anyone else with me in this late round steal?

I was a lot higher on Meachem/Patten before they traded for Shockey. Now the WR2 is the 4th option in the passing game.

I was really looking for Arrington in a 16 team dynasty, but saw no stats on him, last night. Did he play?

 

[joffer]

I'm loving a late round pick-up of Patten this year. Or even Meachem.I think that NO's offense this year is going to be in the top 5. And a late round pick on Patten just might give you a WR that will outproduce a lot of the other WR1s on lesser teams.Is anyone else with me in this late round steal?

I was a lot higher on Meachem/Patten before they traded for Shockey. Now the WR2 is the 4th option in the passing game.

they've thrown the ball 1233 times the last two years. the 4th option in that offense isn't that bad, especially where you can draft Patten/Meachem

 

[Afro Samurai]

I was really looking for Arrington in a 16 team dynasty, but saw no stats on him, last night. Did he play?

Has some kind of leg injury. Speculation is he will end up on IR.The thing that scares me about the Saints WR's is that it's going to end up being a "flavor of the week" scenario - One week it's Patten putting up big numbers, the next it's Meachem, the next it's Henderson. You know Colston is going to get his, but outside of him and maybe Shockey (if he ever gets on the field) there isn't anybody you can depend on week to week.

 

[whodeywhodey]

I was really looking for Arrington in a 16 team dynasty, but saw no stats on him, last night. Did he play?

Has some kind of leg injury. Speculation is he will end up on IR.The thing that scares me about the Saints WR's is that it's going to end up being a "flavor of the week" scenario - One week it's Patten putting up big numbers, the next it's Meachem, the next it's Henderson. You know Colston is going to get his, but outside of him and maybe Shockey (if he ever gets on the field) there isn't anybody you can depend on week to week.

Patten is the WR2. I think you can put a decent amount of faith in him as far as his ADP goes.

 

[Afro Samurai]

Patten is the WR2. I think you can put a decent amount of faith in him as far as his ADP goes.

There's nothing suggesting that Patten is locked into the #2 spot......and even if he was, there have been many Saints games over the last 2 years where the #3 or #4 guy on the depth chart outproduced the starter.

 

[whodeywhodey]

Patten is the WR2. I think you can put a decent amount of faith in him as far as his ADP goes.

There's nothing suggesting that Patten is locked into the #2 spot......and even if he was, there have been many Saints games over the last 2 years where the #3 or #4 guy on the depth chart outproduced the starter.

Yes, from everything that I have read and judging by the starting lineups in the preseason Patten is most definitely the other starting WR in NO.

 

[saintfool]

Patten is the WR2. I think you can put a decent amount of faith in him as far as his ADP goes.

There's nothing suggesting that Patten is locked into the #2 spot......and even if he was, there have been many Saints games over the last 2 years where the #3 or #4 guy on the depth chart outproduced the starter.

Yes, from everything that I have read and judging by the starting lineups in the preseason Patten is most definitely the other starting WR in NO.

i gotta agree. those random games where the #3 WR or whoever making a splash are the annual "devery henderson football tease". meachem/henderson/copper/moore isn't going to overtake patten yet. shockey might move into that preferred #2 option.

 

[Afro Samurai]

Well, good luck with that then.

Just don't complain when he's giving you 2 catches for 17 yards while the flavor of the week goes for 100 yds and 2 TDs.

 

[whodeywhodey]

Well, good luck with that then.Just don't complain when he's giving you 2 catches for 17 yards while the flavor of the week goes for 100 yds and 2 TDs.

Can't you say that about any NFL team though?

 

[Afro Samurai]

Can't you say that about any NFL team though?

Yes, but with the Saints it's the norm rather than merely the exception to the rule.With the way the play offense and shuffle guys in and out of the lineup, you can't tell. Any one of the 5-6 guys they use could go off while your fantasy starter sits the bench. Patten had 8 games (EIGHT!) with 2 catches or less last season. And now he's got yet another guy (Meachem) to compete for playing time with.Situation is just too unpredictable for me. But like I said, good luck.

 

[saintfool]

Can't you say that about any NFL team though?

Yes, but with the Saints it's the norm rather than merely the exception to the rule.With the way the play offense and shuffle guys in and out of the lineup, you can't tell. Any one of the 5-6 guys they use could go off while your fantasy starter sits the bench. Patten had 8 games (EIGHT!) with 2 catches or less last season. And now he's got yet another guy (Meachem) to compete for playing time with.Situation is just too unpredictable for me. But like I said, good luck.

i wouldn't go out of my way to grab him. i don't know what his ADP is but i suspect he's pretty undervalued. good value in the later rounds of a draft.

 

[LHUCKS]

Patten and Meachem are decent sleepers.

 

[whodeywhodey]

Just grabber Patten in the 16th round. Meachem was taken about 5 rounds before I took Patten.

 

[Jerry Lawler]

If it happened, Patten wouldn't be the first veteran receiver to parlay his work ethic and favorable situation into surprisingly productive seasons late in his career. Bobby Engram and Joey Galloway, while not identical, are two recent comparable examples. WR's typically have a tough time in their first year with a new team/system, but Patten performed impressively last season. I'm generally optimistic about Patten because he's had an additional off-season to grasp the nuances of this offense and seemed to increasingly outplay Henderson and Moore down the stretch last season.

Even though I'm targeting Patten late in deep leagues, I have to admit to being concerned because:

1) I think Shockey will eat into the WR2 production

2) Robert Meachem could emerge as the #2 guy, though it probably won't happen this year

3) the Saints passed a ton last year, and I expect their passing attempts will regress back toward the mean this year

4) the Saints' O-line scares me

The most likely scenario is that most of us drop Patten one month into the season after he fails to perform well enough to justify a roster spot, but I think he's got a better shot at emerging as a PPR starting WR than the other WR's who are available in rounds 16-20.

 

[Thom Yorke]

If it happened, Patten wouldn't be the first veteran receiver to parlay his work ethic and favorable situation into surprisingly productive seasons late in his career. Bobby Engram and Joey Galloway, while not identical, are two recent comparable examples. WR's typically have a tough time in their first year with a new team/system, but Patten performed impressively last season. I'm generally optimistic about Patten because he's had an additional off-season to grasp the nuances of this offense and seemed to increasingly outplay Henderson and Moore down the stretch last season.Even though I'm targeting Patten late in deep leagues, I have to admit to being concerned because:1) I think Shockey will eat into the WR2 production2) Robert Meachem could emerge as the #2 guy, though it probably won't happen this year3) the Saints passed a ton last year, and I expect their passing attempts will regress back toward the mean this year4) the Saints' O-line scares me The most likely scenario is that most of us drop Patten one month into the season after he fails to perform well enough to justify a roster spot, but I think he's got a better shot at emerging as a PPR starting WR than the other WR's who are available in rounds 16-20.

I did a bit of Patten pimping on the boards last year, and he turned out nicely. I think the Engram comparison is a reasonable one, insofar as he's a crafty veteran who has developed good rapport with his QB. I think Patten has a great chance to approach last years stats, which will once again make him a decent guy to stash deep on your bench in most leagues. He's also survivor league gold in the late rounds.

 

[PahtyTom]

From The Times-Picayune

RECEIVER STATUS: With two preseason games to go, it appears receiver Devery Henderson is on pace to play as a first-stringer -- and receiver Robert Meachem is not. When asked Wednesday whether Henderson is fighting more for a roster spot or playing time, Payton said: "I see him fighting more for playing time. He's out with the first group, so when you look at Marques (Colston) and you look at Devery, those guys are right now lining up with the first group. Devery's competing against those other guys behind him. Lance Moore, Robert Meachem, those guys are wanting to get more snaps." But asked if he wanted to see Meachem get more time playing with Drew Brees, Payton said: "Yeah, but that's got to be something that's earned. And right now, there are guys ahead of him, just from an overall efficiency level. And Robert's improved, and yet he's still got a ways to go."

 

[doubletrouble]

NO Saints depth chart list DP behind Colston w/ Henderson & Cooper in front of Meachem...I can't see them standing in RM way of being #2 w/ DP as #3

 

[Gr00vus]

Doesn't sound like much has changed since last year except they added Shockey. It was amazing that with all the yards and TDs Brees accounted for last year they didn't have a receiver besides Colston you could feel comfortable with starting every week. With Shockey around and the way nobody is really stepping up at the WR2 for them I'm not seeing a ton of value in the "other" wide receivers right now. I'd gamble on Meachem late, but I figure somebody else will be more excited about him and take him before that. I don't see much upside with any of the other guys - so they'd be late rounders, if that. Wouldn't mind landing Shockey though, especially in TE leagues.

 

[aCoolBrees]

I'm loving a late round pick-up of Patten this year. Or even Meachem.I think that NO's offense this year is going to be in the top 5. And a late round pick on Patten just might give you a WR that will outproduce a lot of the other WR1s on lesser teams.Is anyone else with me in this late round steal?

I would love to, but unfortunately I can't be "with you". See, I live in NO, and everyone is always all over out people. Lance Moore will probably even go before round 8.

 

[aCoolBrees]

NO Saints depth chart list DP behind Colston w/ Henderson & Cooper in front of Meachem...I can't see them standing in RM way of being #2 w/ DP as #3

Besides Coston, there are really no other "starters" on this team. The #4 might get more looks than the #2. Meachem will be on the field plenty, especially by mid season. Henderson is pretty much a non-issue, he can not be counted on. From someone that eats, breathes, sleeps Saints' Football, I think the total FF point breakdown of receivers will go Colston... Meachem... Patten... Devery/Copper/Moore

 

[saintfool]

NO Saints depth chart list DP behind Colston w/ Henderson & Cooper in front of Meachem...I can't see them standing in RM way of being #2 w/ DP as #3

Besides Coston, there are really no other "starters" on this team. The #4 might get more looks than the #2. Meachem will be on the field plenty, especially by mid season. Henderson is pretty much a non-issue, he can not be counted on. From someone that eats, breathes, sleeps Saints' Football, I think the total FF point breakdown of receivers will go Colston... Meachem... Patten... Devery/Copper/Moore

See, I'm beginning to think that Devery is a value play at this point. Everyone is talking about other WR's at the #2 but Payton. He's got terrific upside, especially at the bargain price he's coming in at.

 

[sholditch]

Meachem has the talent and the speed. It might be week 1, but he will be the second-most productive WR on that team.

 

[aCoolBrees]

NO Saints depth chart list DP behind Colston w/ Henderson & Cooper in front of Meachem...I can't see them standing in RM way of being #2 w/ DP as #3

Besides Coston, there are really no other "starters" on this team. The #4 might get more looks than the #2. Meachem will be on the field plenty, especially by mid season. Henderson is pretty much a non-issue, he can not be counted on. From someone that eats, breathes, sleeps Saints' Football, I think the total FF point breakdown of receivers will go Colston... Meachem... Patten... Devery/Copper/Moore

See, I'm beginning to think that Devery is a value play at this point. Everyone is talking about other WR's at the #2 but Payton. He's got terrific upside, especially at the bargain price he's coming in at.

He could very well be, but you and I know that Devery's biggest problem is Devery. He has been playing all Summer with the same inconsistency as he did his whole career. Sure, he was just bumped up on the depth chart, but that could very well be a smokescreen as to what's to come. He will have a few good games, but I think his goose eggs will outnumber them.

 

[Anthony Borbely]

The second highest scoring Saint WR will vary from week to week, so none of them have much value, especially since they are the 4th option in the passing game.

 

[saintfool]

He could very well be, but you and I know that Devery's biggest problem is Devery. He has been playing all Summer with the same inconsistency as he did his whole career. Sure, he was just bumped up on the depth chart, but that could very well be a smokescreen as to what's to come. He will have a few good games, but I think his goose eggs will outnumber them.

i don't disagree with you about devery's career thusfar. i've never been a fan of his play. that said, he presents tremendous upside this year. payton is talking about his improved effort. he's playing on 1-year contract (for a modest $2m). everyone's talking about meachem and shockey. but no one has a lock on the WR2 position at this point. devery can be had for next to nothing in most drafts. i can see where taking a flyer on him at the end of draft could pay off big dividends.

 

[PahtyTom]

NO Saints depth chart list DP behind Colston w/ Henderson & Cooper in front of Meachem...I can't see them standing in RM way of being #2 w/ DP as #3

Besides Coston, there are really no other "starters" on this team. The #4 might get more looks than the #2. Meachem will be on the field plenty, especially by mid season. Henderson is pretty much a non-issue, he can not be counted on. From someone that eats, breathes, sleeps Saints' Football, I think the total FF point breakdown of receivers will go Colston... Meachem... Patten... Devery/Copper/Moore

See, I'm beginning to think that Devery is a value play at this point. Everyone is talking about other WR's at the #2 but Payton. He's got terrific upside, especially at the bargain price he's coming in at.

I agree. He was terrible last year, but simply awesome the previous year when he was thrown the ball. He's still young enough to turn it around, and was a high draft pick also. Plus, of all the guys, he's the perfect deep threat to play opposite Colston with Patten in the slot.

 

[Anthony Borbely]

Henderson is going to play just enough to kill the value of Patten and Meachem.

 

[SteelerMurf]

I love the Saints #2 WR, it's just that it's a different guy every week.

 

[Sabertooth]

I love the Saints #2 WR, it's just that it's a different guy every week.

Is this truly the case for the season? I'd think the best player would rise. I am banking on Patten at this point.

 

[KellysHeroes]

I'm loving a late round pick-up of Patten this year. Or even Meachem.I think that NO's offense this year is going to be in the top 5. And a late round pick on Patten just might give you a WR that will outproduce a lot of the other WR1s on lesser teams.Is anyone else with me in this late round steal?

I was a lot higher on Meachem/Patten before they traded for Shockey. Now the WR2 is the 4th option in the passing game.

VERY Between Colston / Shock / Bush... there won't be much left for anyone else on that team.

 

[Addai's Adidas]

Patten is s little too old for my taste.

 

[joffer]

Patten is s little too old for my taste.

i think he's married anyway

 

[Mister CIA]

I'd go with Meachem here, if only for overall skills and mismatch possibilities against opposing defenses, but also because Colston seems to take a lot of big hits. If Colston misses a game or two, I see Meachem as the guy who could/would step into that role.