NFC West (1 Viewer)

[JHuber77]

Even if these 3 teams win 75% of the toss up games, none of these teams are .500 teams The over/under totals were totals that were released before the season started. Granted I am a firm believer that defense can get you wins, its is not sustainable for the course of a whole season.

Really looking forward to your bump regardless of the outcome. If you're right, you get to look like a doosh for hitting the world with your "I told you so". If not, you'll have that opportunity to try and save face and again look like a doosh. You rule.

What are you talking about? I'm not a told you so person. I am however a person who enjoys a good discussion without the need to call each other a "doosh." I'd love to hear some actual discussion why any of these teams other than SF can be over a .500 team. The offenses on all 3 are terrible. The way I see it.Seattle 7-9Arizona 6-10St. Louis 6-10

I rarely bet on my team, but if you want to throw down $500 I'll take the bet and the Cards having more than 6 wins. Deal?

They already have 4. Thats such a dumb bet, you'd have to be a moron to take something like that. I just said that is my belief. Crazy stuff happens every week in the NFL. Hell, even Josh McDaniels went 6-0 with the Broncos in his first year, then finished 8-8.

Whew...You whiffed on this one. I got lucky. Coulda been a cool $500 in your pocket.

Season isn't over yet.

 

[JHuber77]

Every NFC West team except the 49ers will finish with a losing record.

This is what I was trying to tell everyone 3 weeks ago and got chastised for it.

 

[Rick James]

SF is the only complete team in that division. I think ARI and SEA are going to come back down to earth.

I stand by this remark.

 

[MarcO]

SF is the only complete team in that division. I think ARI and SEA are going to come back down to earth.

I stand by this remark.

what exactly has happened in the Seattle games since your initial remark to make you think they have "come down to earth"? Since then they have beaten NE at home and lost two close road games at SF and DET. I don't think anyone thought they would win @ SF, although they had their chances. They dominated the first half of the game and then got run over in the second half - albeit only giving up 13 points. They had their chances in Detroit as well but couldn't get a defensive stop in the 4th. The point is not much has changed - thier DEF is keeping them in games and the offense is improving - so I don't see how they've regressed in the last month. They have 5 of 8 games at home in the second half and it's going to be tough for anyone to win there - even SF. I still see them at 9-7 and with a little luck 10-6.

 

[bulger2holt]

With the foundation the Rams are building, plus throw in the two 1st rounders this year and next year, and they will be challenging the 49ers real soon. They can easily bolster the o-line and get their #1 WR. Both of this years #1's are top 10 right now and the Rams and Skins schedule remains tough.

 

[thecatch]

With the foundation the Rams are building, plus throw in the two 1st rounders this year and next year, and they will be challenging the 49ers real soon. They can easily bolster the o-line and get their #1 WR. Both of this years #1's are top 10 right now and the Rams and Skins schedule remains tough.

We'll see. Not sure Fisher is the right guy to build that offense. They badly need help on the line. I don't think we know that Bradford is going to be a good QB. They'd be contending this year if they hadn't made the RG3 trade. The defense will keep them competitive though.

 

[Hooper31]

Every NFC West team except the 49ers will finish with a losing record.

This is what I was trying to tell everyone 3 weeks ago and got chastised for it.

Update?

 

[Hooper31]

Every NFC West team except the 49ers will finish with a losing record.

This is what I was trying to tell everyone 3 weeks ago and got chastised for it.

Update?

How about now?

 

[Hooper31]

Satisfied?

More shocked you didn't take the time to bump this thread yourself.

 

[Eminence]

Every NFC West team except the 49ers will finish with a losing record.

This is what I was trying to tell everyone 3 weeks ago and got chastised for it.

Update?

How about now?

The 49ers and Seahawks are good. The Rams are average. The Cardinals are terrible.Satisfied?

Cards defense is pretty impressive. But when your offense can't sustain drives.

 

[Hooper31]

Cards defense is pretty impressive. But when your offense can't sustain drives.

 

[CapnJB]

Both Seattle's defense and offense are only going to improve, and if that's the case, they're the best team in the NFC WEST. They have a better QB than the 9ers, and NO TEAM could come into Seattle and do what the Giants did to the 9ers on Sunday. Don't let the past blur your ability to recognize what's going on out west. This division is really, really good. Likely the best in the NFL top to bottom.

Well now Seattle has to go undefeated within the division the rest of the way if they are going to contend for the division. They are 0-3 against NFC West teams. As far as what the Giants did to the 49ers last week, Cincinnatti did it to Seattle last year 34-12 along with the Falcons 34-18, Chiefs 42-24, and Giants 41-7 the year before. Its still too early this year to say that nobody can go into Seattle and beat them handily, because Seattle just isn't very good on offense. I do agree with you though, this division is stacked on defense, offense not so much.

Ok.

 

[Chaz McNulty]

Both Seattle's defense and offense are only going to improve, and if that's the case, they're the best team in the NFC WEST. They have a better QB than the 9ers, and NO TEAM could come into Seattle and do what the Giants did to the 9ers on Sunday. Don't let the past blur your ability to recognize what's going on out west. This division is really, really good. Likely the best in the NFL top to bottom.

Well now Seattle has to go undefeated within the division the rest of the way if they are going to contend for the division. They are 0-3 against NFC West teams. As far as what the Giants did to the 49ers last week, Cincinnatti did it to Seattle last year 34-12 along with the Falcons 34-18, Chiefs 42-24, and Giants 41-7 the year before. Its still too early this year to say that nobody can go into Seattle and beat them handily, because Seattle just isn't very good on offense. I do agree with you though, this division is stacked on defense, offense not so much.

Ok.

How many points does Seattle need to score before they're considered atleast average on offense?

 

[AB in DC]

Whole lotta FAIL going on in this thread.

 

[JHuber77]

Both Seattle's defense and offense are only going to improve, and if that's the case, they're the best team in the NFC WEST. They have a better QB than the 9ers, and NO TEAM could come into Seattle and do what the Giants did to the 9ers on Sunday. Don't let the past blur your ability to recognize what's going on out west. This division is really, really good. Likely the best in the NFL top to bottom.

Well now Seattle has to go undefeated within the division the rest of the way if they are going to contend for the division. They are 0-3 against NFC West teams. As far as what the Giants did to the 49ers last week, Cincinnatti did it to Seattle last year 34-12 along with the Falcons 34-18, Chiefs 42-24, and Giants 41-7 the year before. Its still too early this year to say that nobody can go into Seattle and beat them handily, because Seattle just isn't very good on offense. I do agree with you though, this division is stacked on defense, offense not so much.

Ok.

How many points does Seattle need to score before they're considered atleast average on offense?

Where were all of you 2 months ago? Nobody predicted that Seattle would be 9-5 and score 108 points in their last 2 games alone. Also SF had the first tie game in 4 years. If anyone did, everyone here would say they were smoking crack. Not to mention that they were playing Buffalo and Arizona.

 

[Chaz McNulty]

Both Seattle's defense and offense are only going to improve, and if that's the case, they're the best team in the NFC WEST. They have a better QB than the 9ers, and NO TEAM could come into Seattle and do what the Giants did to the 9ers on Sunday. Don't let the past blur your ability to recognize what's going on out west. This division is really, really good. Likely the best in the NFL top to bottom.

Well now Seattle has to go undefeated within the division the rest of the way if they are going to contend for the division. They are 0-3 against NFC West teams. As far as what the Giants did to the 49ers last week, Cincinnatti did it to Seattle last year 34-12 along with the Falcons 34-18, Chiefs 42-24, and Giants 41-7 the year before. Its still too early this year to say that nobody can go into Seattle and beat them handily, because Seattle just isn't very good on offense. I do agree with you though, this division is stacked on defense, offense not so much.

Ok.

How many points does Seattle need to score before they're considered atleast average on offense?

Where were all of you 2 months ago? Nobody predicted that Seattle would be 9-5 and score 108 points in their last 2 games alone. Also SF had the first tie game in 4 years. If anyone did, everyone here would say they were smoking crack. Not to mention that they were playing Buffalo and Arizona.

I've been following Seattle all year and felt they were on the verge. Even after the Miami loss I thought they could make a run. Russel Wilson was really held back for the first half of the season and you could see that with the play calling. I am not surprised at all with how the offense is rolling.

 

[JHuber77]

Both Seattle's defense and offense are only going to improve, and if that's the case, they're the best team in the NFC WEST. They have a better QB than the 9ers, and NO TEAM could come into Seattle and do what the Giants did to the 9ers on Sunday. Don't let the past blur your ability to recognize what's going on out west. This division is really, really good. Likely the best in the NFL top to bottom.

Well now Seattle has to go undefeated within the division the rest of the way if they are going to contend for the division. They are 0-3 against NFC West teams. As far as what the Giants did to the 49ers last week, Cincinnatti did it to Seattle last year 34-12 along with the Falcons 34-18, Chiefs 42-24, and Giants 41-7 the year before. Its still too early this year to say that nobody can go into Seattle and beat them handily, because Seattle just isn't very good on offense. I do agree with you though, this division is stacked on defense, offense not so much.

Ok.

How many points does Seattle need to score before they're considered atleast average on offense?

Where were all of you 2 months ago? Nobody predicted that Seattle would be 9-5 and score 108 points in their last 2 games alone. Also SF had the first tie game in 4 years. If anyone did, everyone here would say they were smoking crack. Not to mention that they were playing Buffalo and Arizona.

I've been following Seattle all year and felt they were on the verge. Even after the Miami loss I thought they could make a run. Russel Wilson was really held back for the first half of the season and you could see that with the play calling. I am not surprised at all with how the offense is rolling.

I feel like I could win the powerball and mega millions at any moment too

 

[Hooper31]

I feel like I could win the powerball and mega millions at any moment too

You would do better to just throw out a "I was wrong" instead of trying to piss all over everyone else's commentary.

 

[JHuber77]

I feel like I could win the powerball and mega millions at any moment too

You would do better to just throw out a "I was wrong" instead of trying to piss all over everyone else's commentary.

Thanks captain obvious. However, nobody here stated that they would be as good as they were. I just didn't think they would be over .500.

 

[Eminence]

On paper all teams could finish 8-8 or above.

49ers (10-3-1)Seahawks (9-5)

Rams (7-7-1)

Cardinals (5-10)

I still think that my assessment was pretty right on. Obviously the 49ers, Seahawks, and Rams fit the bill pretty well. The Cardinals won 4 games with Kolb and only won 1 without him. I think it's fair to say that with a healthy Kolb, the Cardinals could have potentially won 3 more games this season.

But, like I said "on paper". Injuries happen, bad calls happen, etc.

 

[The Dreaded Marco]

On paper all teams could finish 8-8 or above.

49ers (10-4-1)Seahawks (10-5)

Rams (7-7-1)

Cardinals (5-10)

I still think that my assessment was pretty right on. Obviously the 49ers, Seahawks, and Rams fit the bill pretty well. The Cardinals won 4 games with Kolb and only won 1 without him. I think it's fair to say that with a healthy Kolb, the Cardinals could have potentially won 3 more games this season.

But, like I said "on paper". Injuries happen, bad calls happen, etc.

Fixed that one for you.

 

[Abrantes]

Both Seattle's defense and offense are only going to improve, and if that's the case, they're the best team in the NFC WEST. They have a better QB than the 9ers, and NO TEAM could come into Seattle and do what the Giants did to the 9ers on Sunday. Don't let the past blur your ability to recognize what's going on out west. This division is really, really good. Likely the best in the NFL top to bottom.

Well now Seattle has to go undefeated within the division the rest of the way if they are going to contend for the division. They are 0-3 against NFC West teams. As far as what the Giants did to the 49ers last week, Cincinnatti did it to Seattle last year 34-12 along with the Falcons 34-18, Chiefs 42-24, and Giants 41-7 the year before. Its still too early this year to say that nobody can go into Seattle and beat them handily, because Seattle just isn't very good on offense. I do agree with you though, this division is stacked on defense, offense not so much.

Ok.

How many points does Seattle need to score before they're considered atleast average on offense?

Where were all of you 2 months ago? Nobody predicted that Seattle would be 9-5 and score 108 points in their last 2 games alone. Also SF had the first tie game in 4 years. If anyone did, everyone here would say they were smoking crack. Not to mention that they were playing Buffalo and Arizona.

Nobody was asked to predict any of that. Your initial assessment of the Rams', Seahawks' and Cardinals' chances was questioned by several people, using valid arguments. You were wrong, but instead of taking your licks and moving on, you're back on your soapbox. Not a good look.

 

[Rick James]

SF is the only complete team in that division. I think ARI and SEA are going to come back down to earth.

I stand by this remark.

oof

 

[mad sweeney]

SF is the only complete team in that division. I think ARI and SEA are going to come back down to earth.

I stand by this remark.

oof

Cocaine's a helluva drug.

 

[packseasontix]

Both Seattle's defense and offense are only going to improve, and if that's the case, they're the best team in the NFC WEST. They have a better QB than the 9ers, and NO TEAM could come into Seattle and do what the Giants did to the 9ers on Sunday. Don't let the past blur your ability to recognize what's going on out west. This division is really, really good. Likely the best in the NFL top to bottom.

Well now Seattle has to go undefeated within the division the rest of the way if they are going to contend for the division. They are 0-3 against NFC West teams. As far as what the Giants did to the 49ers last week, Cincinnatti did it to Seattle last year 34-12 along with the Falcons 34-18, Chiefs 42-24, and Giants 41-7 the year before. Its still too early this year to say that nobody can go into Seattle and beat them handily, because Seattle just isn't very good on offense. I do agree with you though, this division is stacked on defense, offense not so much.

Ok.

How many points does Seattle need to score before they're considered atleast average on offense?

Ask the Bears, they have also had big games and then down games as well with most of the help from the Defense.The Seahawks from my view are above average offense with a great defense to help them out as well. To put your comments about points in perspective they had 459 yards of offense against the Bears and scored 23. On the flipside they put up 346 against the 49ers but scored 42.

Points mean something for winning and losing but the total picture means more.

The biggest number for the Seahawks since the bye week is the number 3

Why the number 3? Well thats the number of turnovers they have committed. That is a huge advantage and just like when you play the Bears if you don't turn the ball over you most likely will have a good chance at winning the game.