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NFL Draft - 1st round mock (1 Viewer)

JayMan

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A very reliable source (Scott Wright is no Gosselin - but getting there)...

Updated with all the underclassmen that have declared and merits a 1st round selection according to him...

Mods, please delete if it's a honda... but I havn't seen anything to that effect...

NFL DraftCountdown Mock

 
good stuff and best one I seen yet except for being millionth visitor like about everywhere I go on net. haha

they need to adjust for all the early declarations yesterday especially Louisville and Ohio State guys. Bush, Pittman, Urrito, Gonzales, Braham, Walker, and Hunt all could effect that first round mock.

 
good stuff and best one I seen yet except for being millionth visitor like about everywhere I go on net. haha

they need to adjust for all the early declarations yesterday especially Louisville and Ohio State guys. Bush, Pittman, Urrito, Gonzales, Braham, Walker, and Hunt all could effect that first round mock.
Brohm didnt declare, neither did Urrutia IIRC. The NFLdc mock is good but some huge reaches at the site. For the most part, picks represent pressing needs- but what Scott needs to understand is that teams often dont draft for need- BAP is often a great way to stockpile talent and then force the FO to find value with unhyped prospects who often are just a step below the touted ones and are much better picks at their positions.

The Jaguars for example probably will not pick Brennan due to their FO. What they see is hopefully what I see.

Draft 1: Reggie Nelson, Robert Meachem, Trent Edwards (and hometown bonus for Nelson)

Draft 2: Colt Brennan, Brandon Merriweather, Paul Williams/Aundre Allison (and off-field baggage for Merriweather)

As you can see above, making a point to take the BAP in Round 1 really changes the landscape of the entire draft and in this case, may work out to be favorable. In Draft 1 the Jaguars recieve two more talented players and a QB who fits Koetter's offense. In Draft 2, the Jaguars recieve two less talented players and a QB that, while he may do better than Edwards, is just as much of an enigma. Sure the comp% is insane but how does June Jones offense play in here?

 
good stuff and best one I seen yet except for being millionth visitor like about everywhere I go on net. haha they need to adjust for all the early declarations yesterday especially Louisville and Ohio State guys. Bush, Pittman, Urrito, Gonzales, Braham, Walker, and Hunt all could effect that first round mock.
Scott accounted for all underclassmen in that mock. It's why he posted it today.ETA:Here it is sans commentary for those who get killed by NFLDC adds1. Oakland raiders - Jamarcus russell qb | l.s.u. 2. Detroit lions - Joe thomas ot | wisconsin 3. Cleveland browns - Brady quinn qb | notre dame 4. Tampa bay buccaneers - Calvin johnson wr | georgia tech 5. Arizona cardinals - Alan branch dt | michigan 6. Washington redskins - Gaines adams de | clemson 7. Minnesota vikings - Jamaal anderson de | arkansas 8. Houston texans - Adrian peterson rb | oklahoma 9. Miami dolphins - Amobi okoye dt | louisville 10. Atlanta falcons - Leon hall cb | michigan 11. San francisco 49'ers - Ted ginn, jr. wr | ohio st. 12. Buffalo bills - Levi brown ot | penn st. 13. St. louis rams - Lawrence timmons olb | florida st. 14. Carolina panthers - Laron landry s | l.s.u. 15. Pittsburgh steelers - Adam carriker de | nebraska 16. Green bay packers - Marshawn lynch rb | california 17. Jacksonville jaguars - Colt brennan qb | hawaii 18. Cincinnati bengals - Demarcus tyler dt | north carolina st. 19. Tennessee titans - Dwayne jarrett wr | usc 20. New york giants - Darrelle revis cb | pittsburgh 21. Denver broncos - Quentin moses de | georgia 22. Dallas cowboys - Reggie nelson s | florida 23. Kansas city chiefs - Quinn pitcock dt | ohio st. 24. New england patriots (f/sea)- Marcus mccauley cb | fresno st. 25. New york jets - Daymeion hughes cb | california 26. Philadelphia eagles - Michael griffin s | texas 27. New orleans saints - Paul posluszny olb | penn st. 28. New england patriots - Dwayne bowe wr | l.s.u. 29. Baltimore ravens - Jarvis moss de | florida 30. San diego chargers - Sidney rice wr | south carolina 31. Indianapolis colts - Patrick willis ilb | ole miss 32. Chicago bears - Justin blalock og | texas
 
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The NFLdc mock is good but some huge reaches at the site. For the most part, picks represent pressing needs- but what Scott needs to understand is that teams often dont draft for need- BAP is often a great way to stockpile talent and then force the FO to find value with unhyped prospects who often are just a step below the touted ones and are much better picks at their positions.
Excellent post, not to discount the part I cut. I just wanted to add that Scott Wright is playing to his audience in January. His audience is "team needs based" based on the many NFL fans who read him and are constantly driving the conversation there with what "their team" needs and will and won't do, etc.
 
I was asked for an opinion on his mock in a PM earlier today, this was my reply.

I think I'm going to get the last laugh with him on a couple guys this year. McCauley cannot fall (much) further than 24 according to him. He believes he has McCauley very low right now, and he should go sooner. I do not think McCauley is a first rounder. I do not think Scott knows much about him. Who knows? I guess he could rip another 4.31 and go early, but the whole explanation about a Belichick White connection is silly. Marcus McCauley accused Pat Hill of benching him to save his coaching job. "He made me the scapegoat for his bad coaching." I doubt Hill recommends this kid to buddy Bill.

I'm also confident about my Charles Johnson praise. I guess he could fall, but I expect him to be a terror in the NFL. Right now I think "gurus" like Scott need affirmation from Kiper and such in order to believe what their eyes saw (assuming they watched). Johnson is sooo explosive. So once the moles dig up the dirt, then guys like Mel and Scott can talk about his meteoric rise. He is already very high and cannot rise. Same with Ware back in January a couple years ago. He did not rise. People who did not know him said he did in order to cover the fact that they did not know him.

I feel like I am either way overvaluing the skill position talent or others are undervaluing it. I do believe they are the best football players regardless of position. And I know BaP isn't always the way the draft goes, but I think it explains many many selections (and I happen to agree with the approach, strongly). Sidney Rice (30) is a much better football player than Leon Hall (10). Leon Hall cannot cover him, how do you draft the guy who cannot cover another guy when both are available?

Okoye... :thumbup: Before this is done I expect him to be the first player chosen.

I think Revis is a star and should be drafted at the elite level or very very near the top 10.

I think Brennan is pretty good, but I don't see him going that soon. Having him and Carriker so high seems like attention seeking to me, just a little, no big deal.

I like seeing Reggie Nelson in the 20s, where he belongs. I don't even mind him going to Dallas. I still hold he could fall to the second. I like the general disregard for these LBs. I am not very impressed with the lot, and I think he has Timmons too high, but compliment the overall downgrade.

 
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Colt Brennan at #17 overall?

Wow that is interesting. I will be really interested to see where he falls in other "respectable" predraft mocks.

 
Colt Brennan? Think anybody takes a shot on this pure "system QB" in the first? Haven't teams learned their lesson?

 
Okoye... :bye: Before this is done I expect him to be the first player chosen.
Are you serious, or is this sarcasm?Can you link to your most recent mock?
It's sarcasm. I have been struggling to understand Okoye's very high ranking, while agreeing his youth is very intriguing and some of his play. I'm sure Dorsey staying at LSU has a lot to do with him moving even higher. My last mock is in Andy's thread. I'll try a two rounder now that the underclassmen are all in, but it will be a few days yet. It won't look too much different than the one linked, but I have to be more realistic... I guess.

 
Okoye... :goodposting: Before this is done I expect him to be the first player chosen.
Are you serious, or is this sarcasm?Can you link to your most recent mock?
I think its in reference to the rise of Okoye's stock with several members of the forums. He's become the cinderella child of the NFLdc forum, along with Eric Weddle, and has seen his stock shoot from late 1st/early 2nd consideration to a top-10 pick---literally within a month.
 
This is very wierd... he calls Hughes the most over rated player in the draft, says he expects him to fall well into the second round, but has the Jets taking him at 25. :confused: :cry:

 
This is very wierd... he calls Hughes the most over rated player in the draft, says he expects him to fall well into the second round, but has the Jets taking him at 25. :coffee: :shrug:
Like I said. It's January. He is playing to his audience. This isn't his heartfelt and studious projection. It's just fuel for the fires to keep the interest going. As pointed out above, he is focussing on team needs more than necessary.
 
Doo said:
What would Calvin Johnson do to Chris Simms dynasty value?
Maybe about the same thing that Roy Williams did to Joey Harrington's. In all seriousness, it's tough to say. You never know if a QB will take advantage of his weapons or waste them. It does seem like great WRs aren't always able to save bad QBs, but you certainly can't ignore the effect that guys like Randy Moss, Torry Holt, Chad Johnson, and Terrell Owens have had on QBs throughout their careers.
 
FINALLY a draft not picking Russell/Quinn as 1/2. Which will not happen.

His site is really good, very informative - my one beef is he's so slow at providing updates. This is the first update in about 6 weeks.

Edit: however he is apparently clueless on the Colts, ie: "The team is basically set along the defensive line for next season assuming Corey Simon returns.." LOL

 
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I was asked for an opinion on his mock in a PM earlier today, this was my reply.I think I'm going to get the last laugh with him on a couple guys this year. McCauley cannot fall (much) further than 24 according to him. He believes he has McCauley very low right now, and he should go sooner. I do not think McCauley is a first rounder. I do not think Scott knows much about him. Who knows? I guess he could rip another 4.31 and go early, but the whole explanation about a Belichick White connection is silly. Marcus McCauley accused Pat White of benching him to save his coaching job. "He made me the scapegoat for his bad coaching." I doubt White recommends this kid to buddy Bill. I'm also confident about my Charles Johnson praise. I guess he could fall, but I expect him to be a terror in the NFL. Right now I think "gurus" like Scott need affirmation from Kiper and such in order to believe what their eyes saw (assuming they watched). Johnson is sooo explosive. So once the moles dig up the dirt, then guys like Mel and Scott can talk about his meteoric rise. He is already very high and cannot rise. Same with Ware back in January a couple years ago. He did not rise. People who did not know him said he did in order to cover the fact that they did not know him. I feel like I am either way overvaluing the skill position talent or others are undervaluing it. I do believe they are the best football players regardless of position. And I know BaP isn't always the way the draft goes, but I think it explains many many selections (and I happen to agree with the approach, strongly). Sidney Rice (30) is a much better football player than Leon Hall (10). Leon Hall cannot cover him, how do you draft the guy who cannot cover another guy when both are available? Okoye... :cry: Before this is done I expect him to be the first player chosen.I think Revis is a star and should be drafted at the elite level or very very near the top 10.I think Brennan is pretty good, but I don't see him going that soon. Having him and Carriker so high seems like attention seeking to me, just a little, no big deal. I like seeing Reggie Nelson in the 20s, where he belongs. I don't even mind him going to Dallas. I still hold he could fall to the second. I like the general disregard for these LBs. I am not very impressed with the lot, and I think he has Timmons too high, but compliment the overall downgrade.
Pat Hill is the coach at Fresno. Pat White is a Soph RB at WVU
 
Pretty good mock, however, I don't see the Stillers taking a DE in the first round. I would like to see them take one of the 2 top Penns State guys mentioned, either Brown or Posluszny. We need offensive linemen but personally, Poz would make an excellent Steeler.

 
The Cards will reach on OL before they take a DL IMHO...I really think it's the only position they're considering.

 
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The Cards will reach on OL before they take a DL IMHO...I really think it's the only position they're considering.
Could be. But the only o-lineman they could even consider reaching for at #5 is Levi Brown. Is he all that much better or worth the risk of panning out than is a 2nd round guy like Joe Staley, Aaron Sears, Ryan Harris, Tony Ugoh, or Doug Free?Maybe, but I doubt it.
 
BigSteelThrill said:
Colt Brennan? Think anybody takes a shot on this pure "system QB" in the first? Haven't teams learned their lesson?
Yep, thats about where I stopped reading.
And went back to reading the rag known as PFT? :lmao: Colt Brennan is the weirdest pick of the bunch, but he appears to have that Losman/Boller look to his draft status. Combine should shed some light on him.
I agree. diesel could be right to laugh, but opinions on him need a little time to develop. Brohm staying in school helps Brennan. Have you ever seen Colt Brennan interviewed? Is it just me or does he seem "very young" like a high school kid in front of the camera? He has character concerns from Colorado, and I guess there's rumors around Hawaii that he "isn't serious" enough for the NFL yet.
 
BigSteelThrill said:
Colt Brennan? Think anybody takes a shot on this pure "system QB" in the first? Haven't teams learned their lesson?
Yep, thats about where I stopped reading.
And went back to reading the rag known as PFT? :lmao: Colt Brennan is the weirdest pick of the bunch, but he appears to have that Losman/Boller look to his draft status. Combine should shed some light on him.
Does anyone on this board care what you have to say?Didnt think so.
 
BigSteelThrill said:
Colt Brennan? Think anybody takes a shot on this pure "system QB" in the first? Haven't teams learned their lesson?
Yep, thats about where I stopped reading.
And went back to reading the rag known as PFT? :confused: Colt Brennan is the weirdest pick of the bunch, but he appears to have that Losman/Boller look to his draft status. Combine should shed some light on him.
I agree. diesel could be right to laugh, but opinions on him need a little time to develop. Brohm staying in school helps Brennan. Have you ever seen Colt Brennan interviewed? Is it just me or does he seem "very young" like a high school kid in front of the camera? He has character concerns from Colorado, and I guess there's rumors around Hawaii that he "isn't serious" enough for the NFL yet.
Colt Brennan to stay in school
 
Smart of Brennan to stay in school. Prove you can do it again. And grow up a bit, please. You looked like a spoiled brat in that bowl game, dude.

 
He now has his 2nd round up. Sorry about the formatting, but that's how it works when I cut and paste.

1. OAKLAND RAIDERS - JAMARCUS RUSSELL QB | L.S.U.

2. DETROIT LIONS - JOE THOMAS OT | Wisconsin

3. CLEVELAND BROWNS - BRADY QUINN QB | Notre Dame

4. TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS - CALVIN JOHNSON WR | Georgia Tech

5. ARIZONA CARDINALS - ALAN BRANCH DT | Michigan

6. WASHINGTON REDSKINS - JAMAAL ANDERSON DE | Arkansas

7. MINNESOTA VIKINGS - GAINES ADAMS DE | Clemson

8. HOUSTON TEXANS - ADRIAN PETERSON RB | Oklahoma

9. MIAMI DOLPHINS - AMOBI OKOYE DT | Louisville

10. ATLANTA FALCONS - LEON HALL CB | Michigan

11. SAN FRANCISCO 49'ERS - TED GINN, JR. WR | Ohio St.

12. BUFFALO BILLS - DARRELLE REVIS CB | Pittsburgh

13. ST. LOUIS RAMS - LAWRENCE TIMMONS OLB | Florida St.

14. CAROLINA PANTHERS- LARON LANDRY S | L.S.U.

15. PITTSBURGH STEELERS - MARSHAWN LYNCH RB | California

16. GREEN BAY PACKERS - DWAYNE JARRETT WR | USC

17. JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS - REGGIE NELSON S | Florida

18. CINCINNATI BENGALS - DEMARCUS TYLER DT | North Carolina St.

19. TENNESSEE TITANS - QUENTIN MOSES DE | Georgia

20. NEW YORK GIANTS - Daymeion Hughes CB | California

21. DENVER BRONCOS - ADAM CARRIKER DE | Nebraska

22. DALLAS COWBOYS - JUSTIN BLALOCK OG | Texas

23. KANSAS CITY CHIEFS - LEVI BROWN OT | Penn St.

24. NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS (f/SEA) - MARCUS MCCAULEY CB | Fresno St.

25. NEW YORK JETS - JARVIS MOSS DE | Florida

26. PHILADELPHIA EAGLES - MICHAEL GRIFFIN S | Texas

27. NEW ORLEANS SAINTS - PAUL POSLUSZNY OLB | Penn St.

28. NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS - DWAYNE BOWE WR | L.S.U.

29. BALTIMORE RAVENS - BEN GRUBBS OG | Auburn

30. SAN DIEGO CHARGERS - SIDNEY RICE WR | South Carolina

31. INDIANAPOLIS COLTS - PATRICK WILLIS ILB | Ole Miss

32. CHICAGO BEARS - ARRON SEARS OT | Tennessee

33. OAKLAND RAIDERS - Tony Ugoh OT | Arkansas

34. DETROIT LIONS - Charles Johnson DE | Georgia

35. TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS - Quinn Pitcock DT | Ohio St.

36. CLEVELAND BROWNS - Ryan Kalil C | USC

37. ARIZONA CARDINALS - Joe Staley OT | Central Michigan

38. NEW YORK JETS (f/WAS) - Kenny Irons RB | Auburn

39. MINNESOTA VIKINGS - Robert Meachem WR | Tennessee

40. HOUSTON TEXANS - Anthony Gonzalez WR | Ohio St.

41. MIAMI DOLPHINS - Ryan Harris OT | Notre Dame

42. ATLANTA FALCONS - Marshall Yanda OG | Iowa

43. SAN FRANCISCO 49'ERS - Aaron Ross CB | Texas

44. BUFFALO BILLS - Zach Miller TE | Arizona St.

45. ST. LOUIS RAMS - LaMarr Woodley DE | Michigan

46. CAROLINA PANTHERS - Buster Davis ILB | Florida St.

47. GREEN BAY PACKERS - Greg Olsen TE | Miami (FL)

48. PITTSBURGH STEELERS - Anthony Spencer DE | Purdue

49. JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS - Troy Smith QB | Ohio St.

50. CINCINNATI BENGALS - Brandon Meriweather S | Miami (FL)

51. TENNESSEE TITANS - Chris Houston CB | Arkansas

52. NEW YORK GIANTS - Brian Leonard FB | Rutgers

53. DENVER BRONCOS - Josh Wilson CB | Maryland

54. DALLAS COWBOYS - Eric Weddle S | Utah

55. KANSAS CITY CHIEFS - Craig Davis WR | L.S.U.

56. SEATTLE SEAHAWKS - Josh Beekman OG | Boston College

57. NEW YORK JETS - Ikiaka Alama-Francis DE | Hawaii

58. NEW ORLEANS SAINTS - Mason Crosby K | Colorado

59. PHILADELPHIA EAGLES - Drew Stanton QB | Michigan St.

60. NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS - David Harris ILB | Michigan

61. BALTIMORE RAVENS - Michael Bush RB | Louisville

62. SAN DIEGO CHARGERS - Ray McDonald DE | Florida

63. TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS (f/IND) - Victor Abiamiri DE | Notre Dame

64. CHICAGO BEARS - Jeff Samardzija WR | Notre Dame

 
Let me make a promise to you all. If the Vikings end up with both Gaines Adams & Robert Meachem that I will go out in the middle of the street and literally do a cartwheel.

That would be almost too much to hope for. :bs:

 
Pretty good mock, however, I don't see the Stillers taking a DE in the first round. I would like to see them take one of the 2 top Penns State guys mentioned, either Brown or Posluszny. We need offensive linemen but personally, Poz would make an excellent Steeler.
I agree although if Tomlin or Rivera gets the HC job and the Steelers move to a 4-3 they're going to need a DE.
 
Let me make a promise to you all. If the Vikings end up with both Gaines Adams & Robert Meachem that I will go out in the middle of the street and literally do a cartwheel.That would be almost too much to hope for. :D
I'd rather Landry... and I think Gonzalez is more realistic, plus would fit better opposite Williamson, who oddly, plays the same game as Ginn.
 
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Let me make a promise to you all. If the Vikings end up with both Gaines Adams & Robert Meachem that I will go out in the middle of the street and literally do a cartwheel.That would be almost too much to hope for. :excited:
I'd rather Landry... and I think Gonzalez is more realistic, plus would fit better opposite Williamson, who oddly, plays the same game as Ginn.
I could definitely live with Landry, but I just don't think you take safeties at #7 overall. 2.7 seems too high for Gonzalez, IMO. I'd rather have Johnnie Lee Higgins at the #2 spot than Gonzalez. But what do I know? And I don't like the Ginn/Williamson comparisons.
 
He now has his 2nd round up. Sorry about the formatting, but that's how it works when I cut and paste.1. OAKLAND RAIDERS - JAMARCUS RUSSELL QB | L.S.U. ....64. CHICAGO BEARS - Jeff Samardzija WR | Notre Dame
Thanks Andy. Ya know for all my whining about the weakness of the draft, I quickly thought of about a dozen "missing" names. The first day is going to be pretty good thanks to the 40 juniors who pretty much fill an entire round.
 
He now has his 2nd round up. Sorry about the formatting, but that's how it works when I cut and paste.1. OAKLAND RAIDERS - JAMARCUS RUSSELL QB | L.S.U. ....64. CHICAGO BEARS - Jeff Samardzija WR | Notre Dame
Thanks Andy. Ya know for all my whining about the weakness of the draft, I quickly thought of about a dozen "missing" names. The first day is going to be pretty good thanks to the 40 juniors who pretty much fill an entire round.
It got a lot more interesting with all the juniors for sure. Would have been interesting to see what would have happened with fewer of them - more trades possibly?One thing I'm very interested in seeing play out is where these 2nd tier tackles (tier 1 = Thomas/Jones) and guards (tier1 = Blaylock) end up. I'm talking about guys like Sears, Staley, Ugoh, Beekman, etc. Never thought I'd say that. Who other than a draft geek cares about tackles and guards!? :angry:
 
He now has his 2nd round up. Sorry about the formatting, but that's how it works when I cut and paste.52. NEW YORK GIANTS - Brian Leonard FB | Rutgers
:shrug: Any insight on this pick, other than the NJ homer angle? With Jacobs and Finn, why get another big body for the backfield?
 

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