BigRed
Footballguy
..amazingly concise ths is.
And gotta love the DET pick
http://www.draftnotebook.com/draft_projection.htm
And gotta love the DET pick
http://www.draftnotebook.com/draft_projection.htm
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NFL Mock by NFL Draftnotebook: this guy's commentary is amazing (1 Viewer)
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Colin Dowling
Footballguy
I said Johnson to Detroit weeks ago and will be re-affirming that stance shortly. The Lions brass is doing a great job filling holes in other need areas to make Johnson seem like the logical pick. They added a RB with some skill (no Peterson), added a tackle (no Thomas), added a DE (no need for Adams/Anderson) and avoided Brady QUinn's workout all together.The pick is going to be Johnson.
Mr. Peterson
Footballguy
I think it's a pretty good mock. I don't want to see the Bills take a CB in the 1st. They don't need a top dog to play CB in that system. I would rather see them take Okoye. And how pissed would the fans of Buffalo be if we missed out on Rice by only 2 picks!!!!
David Yudkin
Footballguy
He may not be on the board. I have heard chatter to the effect that the Raiders are not enamored with Russell and may be leaning towards Johnson.From The Sporting News . . .
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Pimpin Ain't Easy
Footballguy
And what if they sign Curtis??
baaloc1968
Footballguy
Curtis left town without a deal.
There is no way they can pick Johnson after telling BMW that he can't play unless he is down to 220. The rest of the team would lose all remaining respect for Martzinelli and question any of his rules. No chance Calvin Johnson will play under 230 and both are the same height. Just isn't going to happen.
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Mr. Peterson
Footballguy
With as much charecter I think Johnson has I still think there is no way he will play for the Raiders. I heard he was almost hesitant to come out because he worried that Oakland might take him. If the Raiders pick him I would not be surprised to see him pull an Elway/Manning kinda thing. Does Johnson have the kind of pull that the other two had? Maybe so.
The Raiders are doing all the can to sign a veteran QB to start with Calvin Johnson as their #1 and then draft a 2nd tier QB to pair with CJ later on.The Bucs are in the process of blocking that move by overpaying for Garcia and trading for a Plummer that they know will never take a snap there. After they (Bucs) secure Calvin Johnson with this tactic, they will ship Plummer off to Houston for a pick and Carr will go...who cares as long as it isn't where any of my WR's are.
Mr. Peterson
Footballguy
That is a very intersesting theory.
Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
What vet would Al Davis bring in?
IMHO:
Jamarcus is going to the Raiders.
CJ is going to Tampa.
Jacksonville takes a WR, but it is Bowe, not Meachem.
Carolina looks to something else aside from a TE. Not sure what position right now, but they like Jeff King from Va Tech from last year. Olsen isn't a first rounder either - I don't think any TEs go until Rd. 2.
IMHO:
Jamarcus is going to the Raiders.
CJ is going to Tampa.
Jacksonville takes a WR, but it is Bowe, not Meachem.
Carolina looks to something else aside from a TE. Not sure what position right now, but they like Jeff King from Va Tech from last year. Olsen isn't a first rounder either - I don't think any TEs go until Rd. 2.
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Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
Regarding Houston and the QB situation, Sage Rosenfels is liked over Carr at this point. They might bring in another veteran to compete with a draft pick, but again I don't see a first rounder at QB to the Texans. Possibly Kolb winds up there in Round 2 or 3.
Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
The draft also looks empty / wrong without Lorenzo Booker or Brian Leonard in Round 2.
The other RBs are valuable sure, but I don't think either back makes it out of the bottom of Round 2. Philadelphia and several other teams are interested in Leonard.
The other RBs are valuable sure, but I don't think either back makes it out of the bottom of Round 2. Philadelphia and several other teams are interested in Leonard.
Colin Dowling
Footballguy
MJD and MIchael Turner were both SIGNIFICANTLY better in college then Booker. I expect him no higher then round 3.
Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
Beware the smoke screens and the counter-hype.Cleveland would be extremely foolish to pass on ADP. Houston could also still grab a RB.It's a delicate balance - teams don't want to show their hands, but they also want to prompt other teams to trade up because they'd lose out otherwise.
Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
FSU used him wrongly - don't fault the player for FSU's mistakes.Booker is a Top 7 RB amongst the rookies.After ADP and MLynch, the next 3 on several boards are Bush, Irons, and Leonard, with Booker close behind. It could be close on Booker (Round 2 vs. Round 3), but Leonard doesn't get out of Round 2.
Phurfur
Footballguy
After reading this post I understand why the Lions have struggled for so long. Adding Foster as a replacement for Thomas is laughable.
Agreed, i really don't think their past mistakes in the draft with WR's will make them pass on the best talent in the draft.Their mistake was drafting guys with low character, not WR's.
as long as CJ can run a sub-4.4, he can play at 290 & double at NT in goal line defense...
wadegarrett
FFA Legend™
Thoughts on some Rd. 1 picks...
CJ to Lions is definitely possible.
Still wouldn't be surprised to see the Browns take Brady Quinn. Most of the armchair GMs around here will go ballistic if the Browns passed on Joe Thomas, especially if it's for BQ.
Levin Brown at #5? Pretty big jump from other mocks, no?
Jamaal Anderson to Vikings? Didn't MN have the best run defense last year. Is this a pass rush thing? Paging Andy Dufresne.
Jaguars taking another WR? With the addition of Northcutt, how many WRs do they have now?
Patriots taking Gonzalez doesn't surprise. Heard around town Pats liked him a lot.
CJ to Lions is definitely possible.
Still wouldn't be surprised to see the Browns take Brady Quinn. Most of the armchair GMs around here will go ballistic if the Browns passed on Joe Thomas, especially if it's for BQ.
Levin Brown at #5? Pretty big jump from other mocks, no?
Jamaal Anderson to Vikings? Didn't MN have the best run defense last year. Is this a pass rush thing? Paging Andy Dufresne.
Jaguars taking another WR? With the addition of Northcutt, how many WRs do they have now?
Patriots taking Gonzalez doesn't surprise. Heard around town Pats liked him a lot.
Colin Dowling
Footballguy
Tony Hunt will go ahead of all everyone you listed except Lynch and AP.
Titus Pullo
Footballguy
Nelson falling to #30. 
GB people who just pay attention to combine numbers and never watch these guys actually play.
GB people who just pay attention to combine numbers and never watch these guys actually play.
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Bob Henry
Footballguy
I have to disagree here. BMW can't hang with Calvin Johnson when it comes to the speed and separation that are needed at the NFL level. If BMW could post a sub 4.4 40 he wouldn't be riding the pine and be on his way outta Dodge. Johnson's work ethic is >>>> BMW's, too.
V1LL
Footballguy
Not so fast. The tackle they added (Foster) isn't all that great. He's yet ANOTHER guy with a weight problem He isn't even guaranteed a starting job. He'll have to beat out J. Scott. He's a nice acquisition for DEPTH nothing more. As for the DE (white) he's never been a full-time starter (I believe he started the last couple games last year) . So there is still big needs on both lines. Don't be surprised, if they don't trade down, to see them take Thomas. Also don't be surprised to see them take Gaines Adams (who they LOVE). I love CJ but there is no way my Lions take him.
David Yudkin
Footballguy
Technically they still do (for now).
nerangers
Footballguy
Patriots | Welker costs two draft choices Mon, 5 Mar 2007 14:55:06 -0800
Updating previous reports, Harvey Fialkov, of the Sun-Sentinel, citing SI.com, reports the New England Patriots sent a second- and seventh-round draft pick to the Miami Dolphins in return for WR/KR Wes Welker.
David Yudkin
Footballguy
Not sure why they threw in a 7th rounder when they would have only had to give up a 2nd rounder in the first place (not that it makes much difference).
nygiants56
Footballguy
Brady Quinn to the Texans.. 
they failed to draft Bush or Leinart or Vince Young last season.
so, now they have a washed up A. Green at RB, and have waived Carr bye-bye, leaving a gaping hole at the QB spot, and the want to fill it with a rookie like Quinn? wow.
that Houston front office could be brought up on charges of incompetence and criminal negligence.
they failed to draft Bush or Leinart or Vince Young last season.
so, now they have a washed up A. Green at RB, and have waived Carr bye-bye, leaving a gaping hole at the QB spot, and the want to fill it with a rookie like Quinn? wow.
that Houston front office could be brought up on charges of incompetence and criminal negligence.
Jackal
Footballguy
money.
ThePittbully
Footballguy
I'll bet my right testicle against your left that Olsen does go in the first
Cookiemonster
Footballguy
Something about (too complicated for me to remember after a couple hours and several drinks) a "poison pill" in the contract about how many games he played in Florida throughout the year.FWIW, Al Davis loves SPEED in his WRs and DBs. Calvin Johnson qualifies. That is why there is so much rumor about Moss. Moss is too expensive and has quit on the team two years in a row and Davis wants him gone. If they can deal him for even a high 2nd round pick, the 1st overall will be C.J.2. 2.1 may be an O-lineman and the high 2nd may be a QB or vice versa.
Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
Hunt's omission is noticeable, I did overlook him (I did say Top 7 yet listed six, oops).I don't know if Hunt will go third. There's varying opinions on that.
Futility
Footballguy
The Pats pissed off Miami management by including a poison pill in the offer sheet saying that if Welker played more than 4 games in the state of Florida in any given season, the entire $34.5 million contract would be guaranteed. New England had to throw in the 7th to "make up" for that little gem.Something about (too complicated for me to remember after a couple hours and several drinks) a "poison pill" in the contract about how many games he played in Florida throughout the year.FWIW, Al Davis loves SPEED in his WRs and DBs. Calvin Johnson qualifies. That is why there is so much rumor about Moss. Moss is too expensive and has quit on the team two years in a row and Davis wants him gone. If they can deal him for even a high 2nd round pick, the 1st overall will be C.J.2. 2.1 may be an O-lineman and the high 2nd may be a QB or vice versa.
Futility
Footballguy
You're talking about 2 very different players. In general, I find it hard to believe or respect much of anything you post on this board. Just a heads up to other posters.
SproutDaddy
Footballguy
Does Sidney Rice really fall to the 2nd?
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Good lord.DBs in the NFC North won't get much sleep when they're about to face the Williams/CJ combo.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
LOL... that is the exact sentence I was about to type.
Iron Mike Tomczak
Footballguy
To Sprout Daddy, There seems to be a heap of good WRs in this draft, and many teams have other needs that need attention first. (see Calvin Johnson, Dwayne Jarrett)
My question is does Michael Bush really end up in the black and gold, Id love to see it, but I doubt he slips that far.
My question is does Michael Bush really end up in the black and gold, Id love to see it, but I doubt he slips that far.
The Kansas Comet
Footballguy
But their teammates on the D-line will sleep well knowing the same garbage on the o-line is still there to give up more sacks. As good as Johnson is touted to be, I can't imagine how Detroit fans would flip out if Millen took another receiver in the first round. Come on Matt! Go get another WR!Good lord.DBs in the NFC North won't get much sleep when they're about to face the Williams/CJ combo.
Donnybrook
Footballguy
EBF
Footballguy
Don't sleep on Booker as an NFL prospect. He'll likely never be a great FF guy, but he's the kind of versatile contributor that NFL teams covet. I've also heard that some teams have their eye on Leonard. He had been linked to the Patriots, but that might be a stretch with the Sammy Morris signing. We'll see.
EBF
Footballguy
It's quite possible. I think most of the teams in the league will have CJ, Bowe, and Ginn higher on their boards. Lots of teams will also prefer Meachem, Jarrett, and maybe even an unheralded second tier guy like S. Smith (who could be a surprise round one pick ala Reggie Wayne). There's a lot of depth at WR in this class, so there's less incentive to reach early.
