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NFL Mock Draft 2.0 (1 Viewer)

Zimm

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I know that the Griffin trade is bold but, I see a sleeper team making a run at him and the Bills could use a boost on the offensive side, and Also Gailey sure loves those athletic QB's.

2012 NFL Mock

 
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This thread, and two draft rankings threads by you guys all in the first 10 threads of the shark pool. Don't get me wrong, I appreciate you guys providing additional information to us but links on 3 threads to your site?

 
This thread, and two draft rankings threads by you guys all in the first 10 threads of the shark pool. Don't get me wrong, I appreciate you guys providing additional information to us but links on 3 threads to your site?
Point taken, Agreed to an extent. Were just excited its finally done! obviously this wont be the norm.
 
Absolutely hate the Packers pick. Based on who's available Thompson would likely take Mark Barron or Peter Konz there.

 
This thread, and two draft rankings threads by you guys all in the first 10 threads of the shark pool. Don't get me wrong, I appreciate you guys providing additional information to us but links on 3 threads to your site?
I don't understand the problem. This guy is adding great stuff to the shark pool. Whether it's good stuff or not, it's good reading and the effort is well appreciated.
 
If the Pats come out of the first round with just a Safety I would be very dissapointed (unless they are very active in free agency)...this team needs to beef-up and get more athletic in their front seven...until they do that who they have in the secondary (and they do need help there) won't make as much difference as it should...

 
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YOu keep Spiller and we will take Buffalo 1st next year instead on that deal. Spiller can be replaced with the 3rd round pick of Lamicheal James instead.

 
1) All reports are that the Bills really do like Fitzpatrick and they have been adamant that they are not in the running for Griffin. They've actually been pretty truthful about that type of stuff in the past, so I see no reason to not believe them now. I really like Griffin and wouldn't mind them trading up, but I don't think it will happen.

2) I don't think the Rams will trade down that far unless they get a MAJOR haul. By trading down to 10 they'll miss out on both the top LT that they really need as well as the top WR that they could really use. So I don't see it from their perspective.

3). I really like Fred Jackson, but with his age and Spiller's production when Fred got hurt, along with Buffalo seeming to place no importance on extending him, I have to believe that Fred really only has one more year left in Buffalo and then the plan is to make Spiller The Guy. I don't think they have even a little desire to trade Spiller.

 
1) All reports are that the Bills really do like Fitzpatrick and they have been adamant that they are not in the running for Griffin. They've actually been pretty truthful about that type of stuff in the past, so I see no reason to not believe them now. I really like Griffin and wouldn't mind them trading up, but I don't think it will happen.2) I don't think the Rams will trade down that far unless they get a MAJOR haul. By trading down to 10 they'll miss out on both the top LT that they really need as well as the top WR that they could really use. So I don't see it from their perspective.3). I really like Fred Jackson, but with his age and Spiller's production when Fred got hurt, along with Buffalo seeming to place no importance on extending him, I have to believe that Fred really only has one more year left in Buffalo and then the plan is to make Spiller The Guy. I don't think they have even a little desire to trade Spiller.
I don't see Kalil making it past 3 anyway...And i have the Rams taking Blackmon at 10 so i don't get question 3? I have yet to hear anything about them counting themselves out of trading up, and i have looked. Do you have any links to them saying so? And if so are they reliable? I think the Browns have the best odds to get RG3, but i just think a sleeper team will be the one to get RG3 that is why i am thinking outside the box instead of just throwing him to the Rams.
 
Straight from the horse's mouth:http://mobile.buffalorumblings.com/2012/3/1/2835452/buffalo-bills-are-not-in-on-robert-griffin-iii-per-buddy-nixBuddy Nix said that they have NOT talked to the Rams about moving up and WON'T talk to the Rams about moving up. He reminded the radio host that he has never traded away picks and doesn't plan on doing it this year. He said that they would be more likely to move down rather than up.
Thanks for the link
 
No problem. Like I said, I actually love Griffin and would be thrilled with that trade as I think he's a legit elite franchise QB and that you need to do what it takes when an opportunity arises to get a guy like that.

I just don't see it happening though. The fit even seems good with Gailey being the Head Coach and I certainly understand why the Bills are being linked to him, I just think that there's enough evidence that it won't happen to realistically project it.

 
Not trying to be a jerk but that was one of the worste mock drafts I have read, maybe ever.

Making ridiculous predictions just for shock value is plain juvenile.

Zero chance than the ridiculous Buffalo trade would have ever even been considered.

 
Not trying to be a jerk but that was one of the worste mock drafts I have read, maybe ever. Making ridiculous predictions just for shock value is plain juvenile. Zero chance than the ridiculous Buffalo trade would have ever even been considered.
Hmmm one draft pick makes it the worse mock ever? I know the Griffin prediction was very bold, but how can you say its the worse mock you have seen? Some people still have Burfict going in the first round...I am sorry i didn't post the same mock as most people do.
 
Not trying to be a jerk but that was one of the worste mock drafts I have read, maybe ever. Making ridiculous predictions just for shock value is plain juvenile. Zero chance than the ridiculous Buffalo trade would have ever even been considered.
I've seen much worse. You must not see many mocks if this is that bad, I thought it was fine. There is known that some sleeper teams may be looking at RG3 so Buffalo could be one of them.
 
3). I really like Fred Jackson, but with his age and Spiller's production when Fred got hurt, along with Buffalo seeming to place no importance on extending him, I have to believe that Fred really only has one more year left in Buffalo and then the plan is to make Spiller The Guy. I don't think they have even a little desire to trade Spiller.
Buffalo was 5-5 with Fred Jackson starting last year. They were 1-5 with Spiller. Why would they have confidence in Spiller?
 
Not trying to be a jerk but that was one of the worste mock drafts I have read, maybe ever. Making ridiculous predictions just for shock value is plain juvenile. Zero chance than the ridiculous Buffalo trade would have ever even been considered.
Constructive criticism is more useful than insults.
 
3). I really like Fred Jackson, but with his age and Spiller's production when Fred got hurt, along with Buffalo seeming to place no importance on extending him, I have to believe that Fred really only has one more year left in Buffalo and then the plan is to make Spiller The Guy. I don't think they have even a little desire to trade Spiller.
Buffalo was 5-5 with Fred Jackson starting last year. They were 1-5 with Spiller. Why would they have confidence in Spiller?
Because correlation does not equal causation? Because Spiller was not the cause of the losses, nor was Jackson the reason for the wins? Because Spiller had over 5 yards per carry and looked good doing it?If Jackson is back, we are looking at a likely RBBC, he was excellent before his injury. But let's not pretend that a much-improved Spiller won't have a bigger role than he did in early 2011.
 
3). I really like Fred Jackson, but with his age and Spiller's production when Fred got hurt, along with Buffalo seeming to place no importance on extending him, I have to believe that Fred really only has one more year left in Buffalo and then the plan is to make Spiller The Guy. I don't think they have even a little desire to trade Spiller.
Buffalo was 5-5 with Fred Jackson starting last year. They were 1-5 with Spiller. Why would they have confidence in Spiller?
Because correlation does not equal causation? Because Spiller was not the cause of the losses, nor was Jackson the reason for the wins? Because Spiller had over 5 yards per carry and looked good doing it?If Jackson is back, we are looking at a likely RBBC, he was excellent before his injury. But let's not pretend that a much-improved Spiller won't have a bigger role than he did in early 2011.
Couldn't one argue that Jackson was maybe not "THE reason" for the wins but the major reason. They controlled the offense through him and he produced before the injury. I don't think you're saying he wasn't but he seemed to be more of a factor then Spiller in producing wins , and I'm a Spiller fan.For the sake of this mock, I don't see why they couldnt include Spiller in a trade and then grab Wilson (or would he not make it back to them in the second?

 
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Spiller wasn't the reason the Bills started losing, Fitzpatrick being unable tk hit targets, offensive linemen going on the IR, receivers getting hurt, and many many defensive players going on IR were the reasons the Bills were terrible the last chunk of the season.

I do think the Bills threw the ball more partially due to not wanting to put too many carries on Spiller, but also in large part because they kept getting down big early in games.

There would be very few Bills fans that would put those losses on the Bills not having Fred Jackson.

 
Absolutely hate the Packers pick. Based on who's available Thompson would likely take Mark Barron or Peter Konz there.
:goodposting: Must have been too busy dreaming up trades for other teams to put any thought into the Packers' pick.
RB isn't a need for the packers? Ted Thompson takes BPA and the draft is very deep at interior lineman and an in the box safety doesn't exactly fit the defensive style they run.
 
'Zimm said:
'scrumptrulescent said:
'Pipes said:
Absolutely hate the Packers pick. Based on who's available Thompson would likely take Mark Barron or Peter Konz there.
:goodposting: Must have been too busy dreaming up trades for other teams to put any thought into the Packers' pick.
RB isn't a need for the packers? Ted Thompson takes BPA and the draft is very deep at interior lineman and an in the box safety doesn't exactly fit the defensive style they run.
Why would you think David Wilson is BPA here? Brockers, V Curry or Z Brown as an OLB. Konz of course. Why is Barron being labeled an in the box safety? I see nothing special about David Wilson whatsoever and unless RB is special (Richardson) I don't know if they're worth much to Ted Thompson.
 
Missed the fact that Brockers was there. That probably would be the Packers pick.

To the op...the Packers have a top flight offense even with a mediocre running game and Thompson's never been one to value RB's that highly. They have Starks and really like Brandon Seine. Not great but with the pass 1st offense they just need to be respectable running the ball. They have much bigger needs at DL, OLB and secondary, particular safety where it's questionable at best if Collins can come back. They need playmakers on defense. The reason I mentioned Konz is the Packers are likely to lose all pro center Wells and Konz is widely considered the best C since Mangold. That would fit Thompson's MO with drafting the best player available and he would help keep the franchise QB healthy.

 
Devon Still to Denver :thumbup:

I don't think he would last that long, but if he does I would think they pretty much run to the podium with the pick.

 
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'Zimm said:
'scrumptrulescent said:
'Pipes said:
Absolutely hate the Packers pick. Based on who's available Thompson would likely take Mark Barron or Peter Konz there.
:goodposting: Must have been too busy dreaming up trades for other teams to put any thought into the Packers' pick.
RB isn't a need for the packers? Ted Thompson takes BPA and the draft is very deep at interior lineman and an in the box safety doesn't exactly fit the defensive style they run.
Why would you think David Wilson is BPA here? Brockers, V Curry or Z Brown as an OLB. Konz of course. Why is Barron being labeled an in the box safety? I see nothing special about David Wilson whatsoever and unless RB is special (Richardson) I don't know if they're worth much to Ted Thompson.
lol ima go ahead and quote you on this...and potentially put this in my signature after his rookie year. my thing is, are you the only one who thinks that or is that the common consensus? Even if you see nothing special, does it really matter if Ted Thompson does?
 
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'Zimm said:
'scrumptrulescent said:
'Pipes said:
Absolutely hate the Packers pick. Based on who's available Thompson would likely take Mark Barron or Peter Konz there.
:goodposting: Must have been too busy dreaming up trades for other teams to put any thought into the Packers' pick.
RB isn't a need for the packers? Ted Thompson takes BPA and the draft is very deep at interior lineman and an in the box safety doesn't exactly fit the defensive style they run.
Why would you think David Wilson is BPA here? Brockers, V Curry or Z Brown as an OLB. Konz of course. Why is Barron being labeled an in the box safety? I thought about Konz going to GB but i choose Wilson. Barron is indeed an in the box SS and doesn't exactly fit the Packers scheme as i mentioned earlier, and i really had a hard time fitting Brockers into my 1st round. I looked for a trade/having him go to Denver instead of Stills but his very poor combine could knock him out of the first round, and why would GB take Brockers to back-up an elite DT like Raji? I don't see Brockers being able to play DE in a 3-4 (Yes Raji could).I see nothing special about David Wilson whatsoever and unless RB is special (Richardson) I don't know if they're worth much to Ted Thompson.
 

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