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NFL PLAYOFFS-SOMEONE ANSWER (1 Viewer)

Todd Smith

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IF Baltimore and Indy win out and sea beats SD all 3 teams finish 13-3

It looks like if this happens Baltimore wins out based on tiebreak 3 indy would be eliminated and then it would be down to SD AND BALT-BALT BEAT THEM

seeds would be

bal #1

sd#2

indy #3

is this correct

 
Three way tie...

Three or More Clubs

(Note: If two clubs remain tied after third or other clubs are eliminated, tie breaker reverts to step 1 of applicable two-club format.)

1. Apply division tie breaker to eliminate all but the highest ranked club in each division prior to proceeding to step 2. The original seeding within a division upon application of the division tie breaker remains the same for all subsequent applications of the procedure that are necessary to identify the two Wild-Card participants.

2. Head-to-head sweep. (Applicable only if one club has defeated each of the others or if one club has lost to each of the others.)

3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference. (all would be 10-2)

4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games, minimum of four.

5. Strength of victory. (that would eliminate SD=.429 vs Bal=.455 vs Indy=.519)... Going to the two way tie...

6. Strength of schedule.

7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.

8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.

9. Best net points in conference games.

10. Best net points in all games.

11. Best net touchdowns in all games.

12. Coin toss.

Two way tie...

Two Clubs

1. Head-to-head, if applicable.

2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.

3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games, minimum of four.

4. Strength of victory. (same, would give Indy the #1 seed and Bal the #2 seed)

5. Strength of schedule.

6. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.

7. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.

8. Best net points in conference games.

9. Best net points in all games.

10. Best net touchdowns in all games.

11. Coin toss.

If I'm not mistaken... Indy #1 / Bal #2 / SD #3

 
Three way tie...

Three or More Clubs

(Note: If two clubs remain tied after third or other clubs are eliminated, tie breaker reverts to step 1 of applicable two-club format.)

1. Apply division tie breaker to eliminate all but the highest ranked club in each division prior to proceeding to step 2. The original seeding within a division upon application of the division tie breaker remains the same for all subsequent applications of the procedure that are necessary to identify the two Wild-Card participants.

2. Head-to-head sweep. (Applicable only if one club has defeated each of the others or if one club has lost to each of the others.)

3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference. (all would be 10-2)

4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games, minimum of four.

5. Strength of victory. (that would eliminate SD=.429 vs Bal=.455 vs Indy=.519)... Going to the two way tie...

6. Strength of schedule.

7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.

8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.

9. Best net points in conference games.

10. Best net points in all games.

11. Best net touchdowns in all games.

12. Coin toss.

Two way tie...

Two Clubs

1. Head-to-head, if applicable.

2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.

3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games, minimum of four.

4. Strength of victory. (same, would give Indy the #1 seed and Bal the #2 seed)

5. Strength of schedule.

6. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.

7. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.

8. Best net points in conference games.

9. Best net points in all games.

10. Best net touchdowns in all games.

11. Coin toss.

If I'm not mistaken... Indy #1 / Bal #2 / SD #3
I disagree. I think San Diego gets #1 seed based on record versus common opponents. You skipped over the common games tiebreaker and went to strength of victory.

The common games are: DENVER, CINCINATTI, TENNESSEE, BUFFALO

In these games San Diego is 5-0-0, Indy is 4-1-0 and Baltimore is 3-2-0

Which means San Diego is #1.

EDITED TO ADD

Indy would be #2 based on these same common opponents for the two team tiebreak between Indy & Baltimore

Baltimore would therefore be #3 by default

So it would be:

#1 San Diego

#2 Indianapolis

#3 Baltimore

 
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That is correct.

If Baltimore finishes in a tie with Indy, be it a 2-team or 3-team tie, Baltimore comes out on the bottom due to Common Opponents.

But Baltimore would win a 2-way tie against San Diego.

So for Baltimore to get the #2 seed, they'd need to finish a game ahead of Indy. To get the #1 seed, they'd need to finish a game ahead of Indy and tied with SD.

 
Per http://www.nfl.com/standings/tiebreakers :

1. Eliminate all but the highest ranked club in each division. These three clubs are in different divisions, so skip this step.

2. Head to head sweep. If one of the clubs has gone undefeated against the others, it wins the tiebreaker outright. So if the Ravens had beaten both the Chargers and Colts, it wins the #1 seed in this examle. This is NOT the case, so skip this step.

3. AFC record. All 3 clubs are 10-2 in this example, so skip this step.

4. Best record in common games, minimum of four. These three clubs DO have four common opponents: The Broncos, Bengals, Titans, and Bills. Records in these games:

Chargers: 5-0

Colts: 4-1

Ravens: 3-2

Chargers get #1 seed.

We reset the tiebreaking procedure. All the tiebreakers wind up the same, and it comes down to #4 again, where the Colts win due to better record in common games.

#2 seed Colts

#3 seed Ravens

edit: fixed Colts record in common games.

 
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Per http://www.nfl.com/standings/tiebreakers :

1. Eliminate all but the highest ranked club in each division. These three clubs are in different divisions, so skip this step.

2. Head to head sweep. If one of the clubs has gone undefeated against the others, it wins the tiebreaker outright. So if the Ravens had beaten both the Chargers and Colts, it wins the #1 seed in this examle. This is NOT the case, so skip this step.

3. AFC record. All 3 clubs are 10-2 in this example, so skip this step.

4. Best record in common games, minimum of four. These three clubs DO have four common opponents: The Broncos, Bengals, Titans, and Bills. Records in these games:

Chargers: 5-0

Colts: 3-2

Ravens: 3-2

Chargers get #1 seed.

Now we reset the tiebreaking procedure to determine the #2 seed. The first 4 steps are the same. So we move to the 5th step.

5. Strength of victory:

The Ravens opponents in games they won have 70 wins.

The Colts opponents in games they won have 80 wins.

It si impossible for the Ravens to make that up in the last two games in this scenario.

#2 seed Colts

#3 seed Ravens
See my post above.Indy is 4-1-0 in the record vs. common opponents not 3-2-0 therefore they get the #2 seed based on record vs. common opponents and not strength of victory.

 
Per http://www.nfl.com/standings/tiebreakers :

1. Eliminate all but the highest ranked club in each division. These three clubs are in different divisions, so skip this step.

2. Head to head sweep. If one of the clubs has gone undefeated against the others, it wins the tiebreaker outright. So if the Ravens had beaten both the Chargers and Colts, it wins the #1 seed in this examle. This is NOT the case, so skip this step.

3. AFC record. All 3 clubs are 10-2 in this example, so skip this step.

4. Best record in common games, minimum of four. These three clubs DO have four common opponents: The Broncos, Bengals, Titans, and Bills. Records in these games:

Chargers: 5-0

Colts: 3-2

Ravens: 3-2

Chargers get #1 seed.

Now we reset the tiebreaking procedure to determine the #2 seed. The first 4 steps are the same. So we move to the 5th step.

5. Strength of victory:

The Ravens opponents in games they won have 70 wins.

The Colts opponents in games they won have 80 wins.

It si impossible for the Ravens to make that up in the last two games in this scenario.

#2 seed Colts

#3 seed Ravens
See my post above.Indy is 4-1-0 in the record vs. common opponents not 3-2-0 therefore they get the #2 seed based on record vs. common opponents and not strength of victory.
I already fixed it.
 
Very good, BGP. One edit -- Colts are 4-1 in those common games (losing only 1 out of 2 to the Titans), so they get the #2 on that basis.

Last night's win broke the Common Opponents tie.

 

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