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NL WEst CHAMPION (1 Viewer)
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boom king
Footballguy
is it me, or are all these stadiums huge?
shadyridr
Footballguy
they are.
boom king
Footballguy
you dont see prior having any impact on this division this year do ya? i know it depends on his health, but i could see him cleaning up...
shadyridr
Footballguy
He probably wont pitch until June (despite what has been said). I just dont trust him. And yes SD has a great rotation but their lineup (particularly their OF is dreadful. Dont get me wrong they should be solid and although I have them 4th I dont think they will finish many games behind the division winner. It should be a tight division race for 4 teams with SF having no shot.
MAC_32
Footballguy
Rockies 86-76
DBacks 85-77
Padres 82-80
Dodgers 81-81
Giants 63-99
I just can't get by the fact that the DBacks won the division last year while being outscored during the season. I love their pitching and I love their youthful lineup, but I can't get past it. Colorado had some overachievers, no doubt, but they have the best balance of pitching, batting, and youth in the division.
Both the Pads and Dodgers are a notch below the top two. Both have solid pitching [san Diego's better], but both are weak in the batting department [Dodgers are better]. If San Diego wants a shot at the division they need to have some combo of Kouz, Headley, and Hairston break through. If the Dodgers want a shot some combo of Pierre being benched for Ethier and Kemp, Andruw Jones bouncing back, Furcal proving last year's down year was health related and not age related, and their starting pitching improves must happen.
San Fransisco's a joke, we don't need to talk about them do we? I do feel bad for Lince K and Cain though, I love watching them pitch.
DBacks 85-77
Padres 82-80
Dodgers 81-81
Giants 63-99
I just can't get by the fact that the DBacks won the division last year while being outscored during the season. I love their pitching and I love their youthful lineup, but I can't get past it. Colorado had some overachievers, no doubt, but they have the best balance of pitching, batting, and youth in the division.
Both the Pads and Dodgers are a notch below the top two. Both have solid pitching [san Diego's better], but both are weak in the batting department [Dodgers are better]. If San Diego wants a shot at the division they need to have some combo of Kouz, Headley, and Hairston break through. If the Dodgers want a shot some combo of Pierre being benched for Ethier and Kemp, Andruw Jones bouncing back, Furcal proving last year's down year was health related and not age related, and their starting pitching improves must happen.
San Fransisco's a joke, we don't need to talk about them do we? I do feel bad for Lince K and Cain though, I love watching them pitch.
shadyridr
Footballguy
So you basically moved LA from 4th to 1st and kept everything else the sameThis division always baffles me when I predict. So I'm going to change it up a bit this yearodgersDBacksRockiesPadresGiants
Captain Hook
Footballguy
WTH voted for the Giants - they should lose access to this forum 
Bobcat10
Footballguy
If you want to look at it that way, hadn't really crossed my mind. I by no means predicted the correct order of finish last year, that's for sure, if that's what you're implying.So you basically moved LA from 4th to 1st and kept everything else the sameThis division always baffles me when I predict. So I'm going to change it up a bit this year
Dodgers
Rockies
Padres
DBacks
I think the Dodgers have the best all around team and I like their bullpen enough that that is the deciding factor. I think the Rockies are good, but just lacking a bit in pitching. Padres will hang around all year long but just don't have enough offense and bullpen strength to pull through. The Diamondbacks just had too many things go right last year for it to repeat. I think losing Valverde is really going to hurt them too, and although they have a few offensive guys on the rise, I think they have a few pitchers on the decline. I think the Snakes are the second biggest disappointment this year in the NL.
Rockies
Padres
DBacks
I think the Dodgers have the best all around team and I like their bullpen enough that that is the deciding factor. I think the Rockies are good, but just lacking a bit in pitching. Padres will hang around all year long but just don't have enough offense and bullpen strength to pull through. The Diamondbacks just had too many things go right last year for it to repeat. I think losing Valverde is really going to hurt them too, and although they have a few offensive guys on the rise, I think they have a few pitchers on the decline. I think the Snakes are the second biggest disappointment this year in the NL.
Eephus
Footballguy
WTH voted for the Giants - they should lose access to this forum
You gotta believe. They're not mathematically eliminated yet.
Captain Hook
Footballguy
WTH voted for the Giants - they should lose access to this forum
You gotta believe. They're not mathematically eliminated yet.
I thought the poll was "Who is going to WIN", not who you root for.........
Captain Hook
Footballguy
I think your comments about Arizona are ludicrous - Haren definitely improves the rotation; if Johnson is healthy they have the best three SP in the NL. Lyon/Pena/Qualls will be fine and "Papa Grande" was not a great clubhouse guy as well as putting too many baserunners on in the ninth innings. Yes they had some career years - at least Byrnes, but their young players Young, Upton, Drew and Jackson will continue to improve.I do think the NL West will be a very tough, competitive division, but they have as good a shot to win it as the Dodgers or Rockies - I don't think the Padres can hang all year despite Peavy and whatever they get from their Chris Young and Maddux.
Eephus
Footballguy
I guess you haven't heard the Giants signed Scott WilliamsonWTH voted for the Giants - they should lose access to this forum
You gotta believe. They're not mathematically eliminated yet.
Wrigley
Footballguy
I guess you haven't heard the Giants signed Scott WilliamsonWTH voted for the Giants - they should lose access to this forum
spoken like a true homer
And who cares if Valverde wasn't a great clubhouse guy, and put runners on in the ninth. Did they score? Asking a lot from Qualls, Pena and Lyon who have never really shown they can handle closing. And counting on a healthy Randy Johnson is a big if. Haren and Webb make a great 1-2, I don't see much more, hell that may be enough who knows. Tribe were able to patch it together with a makeshift bullpen last year and Fausto and CC and a cloud of dust. I just don't think the Diamondbacks are going to be the team this year. It's February 14th, time to make prognostications. Come check back in October and I have no problem eating crow. I have less problem dishing it out. :(
pollardsvision
Footballguy
the dodgers are the st.louis rams/new jersey nets of MLB in terms of underachieving every single season. now they just hired a perennial underachiever for a manager b/c he's a "classy guy". i feel a great year for the padres, d-backs, and rockies coming on.
commisholio
Come out with your pants down!
Wrigley said:Eephus said:I guess you haven't heard the Giants signed Scott WilliamsonCaptain Hook said:Eephus said:Captain Hook said:WTH voted for the Giants - they should lose access to this forum
I thought the poll was "Who is going to WIN", not who you root for.........
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
I don't get to watch a lot of the NL West because of the time difference (+9 hours) but I love it when I get to see it. Some big parks, some great pitching, and some great young players. I picked the Dodgers last year so I'll try to be wrong again and go with the Padres. I could see any of the Diamondbacks, Rockies, or Padres winning the division and the Dodgers making it interesting but I like the home park advantage for the Padres and I like their pitching staff.
hutchins929
Footballguy
The Torre's I mean Dodgers.
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tommyGunZ
Footballguy
The Padres have had the best team in the NL West the past three years, and only the miracle hot street from the Rockies last year slowed them down. The DBacks were a fluke. They'll be contenders but are a couple years away. RJ is through and Drew/Upton aren't ready.
The team I fear the most is the Dodgers. Their young talent is outstanding - Looney and Kemp especially. I think Furcal will have a BIG year, as will Billingsley.
Padres offense should be improved as Iguchi >>>> MGiles, and Kouz has adjusted. There is a huge question mark in LF, but Headley was a monster last year and Hairston had lots of pop in his 80 ABs as a Padre. Wolf and Prior at the 4 and 5 slot after Peavy-Young-Maddux is pretty sick, if/when everyone's healthy. Khalil Greene is widely underrated.
The team I fear the most is the Dodgers. Their young talent is outstanding - Looney and Kemp especially. I think Furcal will have a BIG year, as will Billingsley.
Padres offense should be improved as Iguchi >>>> MGiles, and Kouz has adjusted. There is a huge question mark in LF, but Headley was a monster last year and Hairston had lots of pop in his 80 ABs as a Padre. Wolf and Prior at the 4 and 5 slot after Peavy-Young-Maddux is pretty sick, if/when everyone's healthy. Khalil Greene is widely underrated.
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What do you think you'll see from Hairston this year? any chance he breaks out?
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Eephus
Footballguy
He's OF5 material IMHO. I'd be surprised to see Hairston hold on to the job all year. Even if he does, he'll probably hit in the bottom half of the order, won't hit for average and will lose a few HRs to Petco. That being said, he's 27 this year. If he's ever going to prove he's an every day MLB player, this is his shot.At some point, SD is going to have to do convert Kouzmanoff, Chase Headley or Matt Antonelli into an OF.
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prosopis
Arizona Chupacabra
I have the Dbacks winning this in a dog fight. Losing Papa Grande will not be that big a deal. I see Lyon,Pena,Nippert handling it fine. I dont think anyone is "counting" on Randy Johnson. If he plays and does well it will be icing on the cake.Owings is pretty good and he can hit. There is some talk of putting him in the lineup even when he is not pitching. I like Davis as well and he can string together some wins. Anyways it is more then just Webb and Haren, with our pitching/defense we should win more then our share of low scoring games.spoken like a true homer
tommyGunZ
Footballguy
B Maverick
Footballguy
I believe LA will win the division. Furcal is healed from the bad ankle (damn repko) and Their pitching will be tight. Penny, Lowe, Billingsly (another year better, making of an Ace). IF Schmidt comes back strong they have the best staff in the west. Jones is healthy (hurt elbow last may factors into his down year) and Kemp is learning to use all fields. Martin will be used better and kept fresh all year. Furcal, Martin, Kemp, Jones, Kent, Loney, Eithier, 3b (Nomar or Laroche) makes for a damn good lineup.
SD could potentially have the best staff but with wolf and Prior coming off another year of injuries its asking a lot. Maddux is a 4-5 inning guy and will tax the bullpen every time out. Young started off hot but injuries derailed him too. This team has ZERO offense and is relying to much on high risk high reward pitchers.
Ariz and Col are good and young but may have a hard time repeating their overachiving ways.
It will be very tough to win the division and the winner may only have 85 or so wins, so it will be exciting to watch.
oh and that old team from SF, well, at least Barry is gone.
SD could potentially have the best staff but with wolf and Prior coming off another year of injuries its asking a lot. Maddux is a 4-5 inning guy and will tax the bullpen every time out. Young started off hot but injuries derailed him too. This team has ZERO offense and is relying to much on high risk high reward pitchers.
Ariz and Col are good and young but may have a hard time repeating their overachiving ways.
It will be very tough to win the division and the winner may only have 85 or so wins, so it will be exciting to watch.
oh and that old team from SF, well, at least Barry is gone.
