Noahs Troopers Top 10 Predictions (1 Viewer)

[Noahs Troopers]

1. Ahman Green will be gone for good by week 4. He will reaggravate his injury and the career is over.

2. Willis McGahee will be a top 5 RB.

3. Shaun Alexander will once again be the #1 player in fantasy football.

4. Joseph Addai will be a flat out flop and Indy will bring in another RB via trade in season.

5. Steven Jackson will have a fantastic rushing season, only to not finish top 15 RB in fantasy due to S. Davis vulturing 8+ TDS.

6. Marion Barber will take over the RB job in Dallas and make the most of his chances, but this won't come until mid season and he'll be highly ranked for 07.

7. Terrell Owens will be suspended/deactivated/cut by week 8 due to bad attitude.

8. Lee Evans will finish as a top 10 WR.

9. Santana Moss will not finish in the top 25 WR.

10. Bryan Fletcher will finish the year as a top 10 TE.

 

[Keys Myaths]

1. Yup.

2. I can see that.

3. I have my doubts, but not out of the realm of possibility.

4. Yup.

5. I think the Davis stuff is overhyped. Show me a quote from St. Louis saying that it's a certainty, and I'll follow the train. I think SJax is undervalued among board members here because of that assumption.

6. Yup.

7. Possible.

8. Possible.

9. Absolutely.

10. Nah.

Not bad.

 

[derek19]

1. Ahman Green will be gone for good by week 4. He will reaggravate his injury and the career is over.2. Willis McGahee will be a top 5 RB.3. Shaun Alexander will once again be the #1 player in fantasy football.4. Joseph Addai will be a flat out flop and Indy will bring in another RB via trade in season.5. Steven Jackson will have a fantastic rushing season, only to not finish top 15 RB in fantasy due to S. Davis vulturing 8+ TDS.6. Marion Barber will take over the RB job in Dallas and make the most of his chances, but this won't come until mid season and he'll be highly ranked for 07. 7. Terrell Owens will be suspended/deactivated/cut by week 8 due to bad attitude. 8. Lee Evans will finish as a top 10 WR.9. Santana Moss will not finish in the top 25 WR.10. Bryan Fletcher will finish the year as a top 10 TE.

1. I know your a gado owner so of course that will be your prediciton (I own him also )2. . He will be top 10, but i don't think he'll be top 5.3. Again, you own him in the league i'm in with you, so of course you'll say that. Madden Curse mean anything to you??? BTW, LT #1. (cause i own him!!!)4. Tooooo early to tell...5. I agree but can he stay healthy?6. , totally agree with you. From what i've seen, i think barber is the better every down back.7. With the new CBA, i believe he cannot be deactivated. Not sure about suspended either......8. Tooo many questions marks at QB for him to be a top 10 wr. Plus he's the number 1 WR, no way.9. He's still the number 1 WR in washington, he'll be at least a top 20.10.

 

[intrinsic]

i think you only made 1 prediction that hasnt been previously suggested or discussed in detail here already.

1-9 are all realistic possibilities that have circulated through the offseason and preseason, making those players more or less attractive because of the hype or negative drawbacks.

#10 is the only thing i can say i havent seen anyone discuss.

 

[Hellfire Snail]

1. Ahman Green will be gone for good by week 4. He will reaggravate his injury and the career is over.2. Willis McGahee will be a top 5 RB.3. Shaun Alexander will once again be the #1 player in fantasy football.4. Joseph Addai will be a flat out flop and Indy will bring in another RB via trade in season.5. Steven Jackson will have a fantastic rushing season, only to not finish top 15 RB in fantasy due to S. Davis vulturing 8+ TDS.6. Marion Barber will take over the RB job in Dallas and make the most of his chances, but this won't come until mid season and he'll be highly ranked for 07. 7. Terrell Owens will be suspended/deactivated/cut by week 8 due to bad attitude. 8. Lee Evans will finish as a top 10 WR.9. Santana Moss will not finish in the top 25 WR.10. Bryan Fletcher will finish the year as a top 10 TE.

It's hard to say most of these are predictions so much as things you want to have happen, which I find curious since your ongoing schtick seems to be the routine where you all-knowingly call people out for being JJ owners or any kind of owner in times of crisis caught in a state of "denial".1. Predicting career-ending injuries can go for any player on any play in the NFL.2. I'm sure this is not influenced by any personal feelings.3. I agree, but it's not exactly going out on a limb. 6 games against AZ, STL and SF almost force it to happen.4. I doubt Indy will panic that quickly as even if he does falter, Rhodes has always been an adequate player in their system.5. With each passing year I think it's more and more of a stretch for Davis to be effective. At this point I'm not really sure he'd be more of a force near the goalline than Jackson.6. Everyone who does not own Jones, and some that do, concede that this is possible. But in your case, you have a deep, deep desire for it to happen, fueled by what I don't know. I would say you own Barber in several leagues or perhaps just your most important one, but it seems to go way beyond that.7. Again, probably the concensus, but I happen to disagree. I think once Owens get's rolling it's going to be a repete of his good Philly season. Unfortunately I do not own him in any leagues. 8. I'm sure this is not influenced by any personal feelings.9. He'll fall off pretty noticeably from last year but still finish in the top 25.10. Basically ridiculous, kind of like saying Kitna will be in the top five -- everyone is allowed to make such predictions and cite something like, "he's going to shock people because of the Martz system", but other than a whimsical basis there isn't much to support the claim.

 

[duaneok66]

1. Ahman Green will be gone for good by week 4. He will reaggravate his injury and the career is over.2. Willis McGahee will be a top 5 RB.3. Shaun Alexander will once again be the #1 player in fantasy football.4. Joseph Addai will be a flat out flop and Indy will bring in another RB via trade in season.5. Steven Jackson will have a fantastic rushing season, only to not finish top 15 RB in fantasy due to S. Davis vulturing 8+ TDS.6. Marion Barber will take over the RB job in Dallas and make the most of his chances, but this won't come until mid season and he'll be highly ranked for 07. 7. Terrell Owens will be suspended/deactivated/cut by week 8 due to bad attitude. 8. Lee Evans will finish as a top 10 WR.9. Santana Moss will not finish in the top 25 WR.10. Bryan Fletcher will finish the year as a top 10 TE.

4 for 10 isn't bad . . . you're wrong about 1,2,3,4,8,10 . . .

 

[Kleck.]

1. Ahman Green will be gone for good by week 4. He will reaggravate his injury and the career is over.

A couple of months ago you were claiming he would never play again. A month later Green gets closer to making his comeback and you claimed he wouldn't make it through camp. He's now the #1 heading into week 1 and you're claiming he'll be gone by week 4. Why the hate for Green? He's worked hard to get back to where he is now, the quad is healed and he has been cleared by all doctors, and he has the confidence of his teammates and coaches. Can't wait to see next month's Green injury prediction.

 

[Fla\/\/ed]

1. Ahman Green will be gone for good by week 4. He will reaggravate his injury and the career is over.

A couple of months ago you were claiming he would never play again. A month later Green gets closer to making his comeback and you claimed he wouldn't make it through camp. He's now the #1 heading into week 1 and your claiming he'll be gone by week 4. Why the hate for Green? He's worked hard to get back to where he is now, the quad is healed and He has been cleared by all doctors, and he has the confidence of his teammates and coaches. Can't wait to see next month's Green injury prediction.

Damn

 

[CalBear]

I love the part where the #29 offense from last year, with J.P. Losman at QB, will produce a top-5 RB and a top-10 WR.

 

[SCT]

1. Ahman Green will be gone for good by week 4. He will reaggravate his injury and the career is over.2. Willis McGahee will be a top 5 RB.3. Shaun Alexander will once again be the #1 player in fantasy football.4. Joseph Addai will be a flat out flop and Indy will bring in another RB via trade in season.5. Steven Jackson will have a fantastic rushing season, only to not finish top 15 RB in fantasy due to S. Davis vulturing 8+ TDS.6. Marion Barber will take over the RB job in Dallas and make the most of his chances, but this won't come until mid season and he'll be highly ranked for 07. 7. Terrell Owens will be suspended/deactivated/cut by week 8 due to bad attitude. 8. Lee Evans will finish as a top 10 WR.9. Santana Moss will not finish in the top 25 WR.10. Bryan Fletcher will finish the year as a top 10 TE.

I would love for some of these to be correct, considering I own SA and I just traded SJax and Vick for Willis and Palmer!

 

[Noahs Troopers]

1. Ahman Green will be gone for good by week 4. He will reaggravate his injury and the career is over.2. Willis McGahee will be a top 5 RB.3. Shaun Alexander will once again be the #1 player in fantasy football.4. Joseph Addai will be a flat out flop and Indy will bring in another RB via trade in season.5. Steven Jackson will have a fantastic rushing season, only to not finish top 15 RB in fantasy due to S. Davis vulturing 8+ TDS.6. Marion Barber will take over the RB job in Dallas and make the most of his chances, but this won't come until mid season and he'll be highly ranked for 07. 7. Terrell Owens will be suspended/deactivated/cut by week 8 due to bad attitude. 8. Lee Evans will finish as a top 10 WR.9. Santana Moss will not finish in the top 25 WR.10. Bryan Fletcher will finish the year as a top 10 TE.

It's hard to say most of these are predictions so much as things you want to have happen, which I find curious since your ongoing schtick seems to be the routine where you all-knowingly call people out for being JJ owners or any kind of owner in times of crisis caught in a state of "denial".1. Predicting career-ending injuries can go for any player on any play in the NFL.2. I'm sure this is not influenced by any personal feelings.3. I agree, but it's not exactly going out on a limb. 6 games against AZ, STL and SF almost force it to happen.4. I doubt Indy will panic that quickly as even if he does falter, Rhodes has always been an adequate player in their system.5. With each passing year I think it's more and more of a stretch for Davis to be effective. At this point I'm not really sure he'd be more of a force near the goalline than Jackson.6. Everyone who does not own Jones, and some that do, concede that this is possible. But in your case, you have a deep, deep desire for it to happen, fueled by what I don't know. I would say you own Barber in several leagues or perhaps just your most important one, but it seems to go way beyond that.7. Again, probably the concensus, but I happen to disagree. I think once Owens get's rolling it's going to be a repete of his good Philly season. Unfortunately I do not own him in any leagues. 8. I'm sure this is not influenced by any personal feelings.9. He'll fall off pretty noticeably from last year but still finish in the top 25.10. Basically ridiculous, kind of like saying Kitna will be in the top five -- everyone is allowed to make such predictions and cite something like, "he's going to shock people because of the Martz system", but other than a whimsical basis there isn't much to support the claim.

To clear a couple things up, I don't own alot of these players you think i do, I'm in three leagues, i'll tell you how many leagues i have of each player:1. Don't own Ahman, I own Gado in one league as my RB #5, no real interest in Gado suceeding or Green failing.2. Own McGahee in 2 leagues. Yes, personal interest, just think he has the talent to do it. 3. Own Alexander in 1 league.4. Don't own Addai or Rhodes in any league. Or even Edge for that matter. 5. Don't own Jackson or S. Davis in any league. Owned Davis/Foster in a league last year, don't own Davis now.6. Don't own JJ in any league, Don't own Marion Barber in any league either. 7. Don't own TO, just know he's a punk. 8. Don't own Evans in any league.9. Don't own Santana Moss in any league.10. Don't own Fletcher in any league (Yet).

 

[CowboyFan]

complete crap

 

[Eviloutsider]

1. Ahman Green will be gone for good by week 4. He will reaggravate his injury and the career is over.2. Willis McGahee will be a top 5 RB.3. Shaun Alexander will once again be the #1 player in fantasy football.4. Joseph Addai will be a flat out flop and Indy will bring in another RB via trade in season.5. Steven Jackson will have a fantastic rushing season, only to not finish top 15 RB in fantasy due to S. Davis vulturing 8+ TDS.6. Marion Barber will take over the RB job in Dallas and make the most of his chances, but this won't come until mid season and he'll be highly ranked for 07. 7. Terrell Owens will be suspended/deactivated/cut by week 8 due to bad attitude. 8. Lee Evans will finish as a top 10 WR.9. Santana Moss will not finish in the top 25 WR.10. Bryan Fletcher will finish the year as a top 10 TE.

About number 1. I heard that this wasnt an injury where a repeat was more likely to happen. If anything he just might be slower.

 

[trader jake]

Noah's Troopers = Bills pimp (also noted Ahman Green and Joseph Addai basher)

 

[Kleck.]

8. Lee Evans will finish as a top 10 WR.

8. I'm sure this is not influenced by any personal feelings.

To clear a couple things up, I don't own alot of these players you think i do, I'm in three leagues, i'll tell you how many leagues i have of each player:8. Don't own Evans in any league.

Just out of curiosity, why not? I've seen Evans fall to the 7th rounds in quite a few drafts. His ADP is climbing some now, but if you are so high on him finishing top 10, why would you not gamble on him in the 5th or 6th? If you think he is going to outperform is ADP by that much, those are the guys you should be targeting.

 

[Noahs Troopers]

Noah's Troopers = Bills pimp (also noted Ahman Green and Joseph Addai basher)

I'm kind of shocked for taking all the heat on Ahman Green, I don't dislike Green at all, I wish him the best of luck in recovery and being a bonafide stud once again, it's just not going to happen. I'm dealing in reality here about Ahmans injury and what this injury has done to other players in the past, if Ahman returns to form, he'll be the first, it will be a modern day miracle, I'm rooting for the guy. Ahman Green has talent... On the other hand Addai just sucks. Bills Pimp, I like that.

 

[Noahs Troopers]

8. Lee Evans will finish as a top 10 WR.

8. I'm sure this is not influenced by any personal feelings.

To clear a couple things up, I don't own alot of these players you think i do, I'm in three leagues, i'll tell you how many leagues i have of each player:8. Don't own Evans in any league.

Just out of curiosity, why not? I've seen Evans fall to the 7th rounds in quite a few drafts. His ADP is climbing some now, but if you are so high on him finishing top 10, why would you not gamble on him in the 5th or 6th? If you think he is going to outperform is ADP by that much, those are the guys you should be targeting.

Of the 3 leagues I'm in, only one is a new league, the others are existing dynastys. I didn't get Evans because I already had CJ/Wayne and needed a QB in round 5 where I took Culpepper and Evans went within a couple picks.

 

[Noahs Troopers]

Here's my original posting on Ahman Green from Mid-July:

I've been trying to figure out why Ahman Green still is getting some love on the forums and in the rankings. All of us FBGers should be ahead of the curve on situations like these that involve the starting RB of one of the 32 NFL teams, it should be the "Yahoo" guys out there that are making the rookie mistakes...

From everything I can see is Ahman Green is a non factor, a Robert Edwards/KiJana Carter type flyer for deep leagues at this point, basically he's an injured player who should be under the label "Stick a fork in him".

1. Ahman turns 30 in Feb.

2. Ahman had 255 yards rushing last season with 5 starts, thats a 51 yard per game average, this was before his injury...

3. Ahman scored zero TDS last year.

4. Ahman had a 3.3 YPC last season, undrafted rookie Gado had a 4.1 YPC.

5. Gado was used as a workhorse last season in his starts, getting many 20+ carry games, something Ahman didn't get. Gado found the end zone 7 times in the 6 games he had more than 6 touches.

6. Most importantly Ahman Greens injury is an injury that I have heard on numerous occasions and quoted from doctors "You do not ever fully recover from this injury" and "No football player has ever successfully came back from this injury".

If Ahman Green comes back and even could go for 1000 in a full 16 games I will bow down and admit I have seen a miricle and root for Comeback player of the year. The odds are stacked against Ahman Green very heavily and in all reality he should at this point be in the "Stick a fork in him" category unless a miricle is the expectation here????? If it was an expectation, it wouldn't be a miricle so I ask why are some FBGers (Forum and Staff) giving out all this Ahman love, expectation of a miricle? We're supposed to be the ones ahead of the curve here, I think alot are missing the boat on this one.

 

[Noahs Troopers]

complete crap

 

[citsalp]

Here's my original posting on Ahman Green from Mid-July:I've been trying to figure out why Ahman Green still is getting some love on the forums and in the rankings. All of us FBGers should be ahead of the curve on situations like these that involve the starting RB of one of the 32 NFL teams, it should be the "Yahoo" guys out there that are making the rookie mistakes...From everything I can see is Ahman Green is a non factor, a Robert Edwards/KiJana Carter type flyer for deep leagues at this point, basically he's an injured player who should be under the label "Stick a fork in him".1. Ahman turns 30 in Feb.2. Ahman had 255 yards rushing last season with 5 starts, thats a 51 yard per game average, this was before his injury... 3. Ahman scored zero TDS last year. 4. Ahman had a 3.3 YPC last season, undrafted rookie Gado had a 4.1 YPC. 5. Gado was used as a workhorse last season in his starts, getting many 20+ carry games, something Ahman didn't get. Gado found the end zone 7 times in the 6 games he had more than 6 touches.6. Most importantly Ahman Greens injury is an injury that I have heard on numerous occasions and quoted from doctors "You do not ever fully recover from this injury" and "No football player has ever successfully came back from this injury". If Ahman Green comes back and even could go for 1000 in a full 16 games I will bow down and admit I have seen a miricle and root for Comeback player of the year. The odds are stacked against Ahman Green very heavily and in all reality he should at this point be in the "Stick a fork in him" category unless a miricle is the expectation here????? If it was an expectation, it wouldn't be a miricle so I ask why are some FBGers (Forum and Staff) giving out all this Ahman love, expectation of a miricle? We're supposed to be the ones ahead of the curve here, I think alot are missing the boat on this one.

 

[Noahs Troopers]

More on Green, just trying to deal in reality with him:

QUOTE(The Man With No Name @ Jul 19 2006, 12:31 AM)

Here are some other players that have had the same injury(some torn quadriceps are more serious than others, from what I have read.

Mike McCoy, Packers cb, 10/30/83. Never played again. Tore it again 7/23/84.

Santana Dotson, Packers dt, 11/27/00. Played 16 games in 2001. that was it.

Steve Warren, Packers dt, 12/03/00. Missed all of 2001, played 12 games in 2002. That was it.

Darrell Ashmore, Raiders og, 08/06/02. Never played again.

Brandon Christenson, Raiders te, 1/2003 during playoff game. Never played again.

Frank Middleton, Raiders og, 10/12/03. Played 7 games in 2004. That was it.

Joe Johnson, Packers de, 08/2003. Never played again.

Leon Searcy, Jaguars ol, 2000 training camp. Never played again.

Lawrence Smith, Bills ot, 08/2005. ???????? Hasn't played since

Tank Johnson, Bears dt, 03/2006. ????????

Kevin Barry, Packers og, 05/2006. ????????

Brett Conway, Skins k, 09/2002. Played 8 games in 2003. That was it.

Anthony Parker, 49ers cb, 07/24/99. Played 16g in 2000, 5 in 2001 for Oakland.

He was the 99th player selected in the '99 draft.

Bernard Holsey, Bears dt, 02/2004. Hasn't played since.

Belton Johnson, Bengals ot, 06/24/04. hasn't played since.

Chad Scott, Steelers cb, 10/17/04. Missed 9 games, played season finale and 2 playoff games, but didn't start them. Played 3 games(4 tackles) in 2005 for Pats. Started 88 of 91 games in Steelers career.

 

[Fla\/\/ed]

More on Green, just trying to deal in reality with him:QUOTE(The Man With No Name @ Jul 19 2006, 12:31 AM)Here are some other players that have had the same injury(some torn quadriceps are more serious than others, from what I have read.Mike McCoy, Packers cb, 10/30/83. Never played again. Tore it again 7/23/84.Santana Dotson, Packers dt, 11/27/00. Played 16 games in 2001. that was it.Steve Warren, Packers dt, 12/03/00. Missed all of 2001, played 12 games in 2002. That was it.Darrell Ashmore, Raiders og, 08/06/02. Never played again.Brandon Christenson, Raiders te, 1/2003 during playoff game. Never played again.Frank Middleton, Raiders og, 10/12/03. Played 7 games in 2004. That was it.Joe Johnson, Packers de, 08/2003. Never played again.Leon Searcy, Jaguars ol, 2000 training camp. Never played again.Lawrence Smith, Bills ot, 08/2005. ???????? Hasn't played sinceTank Johnson, Bears dt, 03/2006. ????????Kevin Barry, Packers og, 05/2006. ????????Brett Conway, Skins k, 09/2002. Played 8 games in 2003. That was it.Anthony Parker, 49ers cb, 07/24/99. Played 16g in 2000, 5 in 2001 for Oakland. He was the 99th player selected in the '99 draft.Bernard Holsey, Bears dt, 02/2004. Hasn't played since.Belton Johnson, Bengals ot, 06/24/04. hasn't played since.Chad Scott, Steelers cb, 10/17/04. Missed 9 games, played season finale and 2 playoff games, but didn't start them. Played 3 games(4 tackles) in 2005 for Pats. Started 88 of 91 games in Steelers career.

 

[Jon_Moore]

The Owens suspension thing..what makes you say that?

He #####ed about not getting paid, he got paid.

He got deactivated last year, do you really think he's so stupid as to have it done again?

What's he done or said since arriving in Dalls make you believe his attitude gets in the way this year?

 

[Loan Sharks]

X 1. Ahman Green will be gone for good by week 4. He will reaggravate his injury and the career is over.

X 2. Willis McGahee will be a top 5 RB.

Correct 3. Shaun Alexander will once again be the #1 player in fantasy football.

Half Credit 4. Joseph Addai will be a flat out flop and Indy will bring in another RB via trade in season.

Half Credit 5. Steven Jackson will have a fantastic rushing season, only to not finish top 15 RB in fantasy due to S. Davis vulturing 8+ TDS.

X 6. Marion Barber will take over the RB job in Dallas and make the most of his chances, but this won't come until mid season and he'll be highly ranked for 07.

X 7. Terrell Owens will be suspended/deactivated/cut by week 8 due to bad attitude.

X 8. Lee Evans will finish as a top 10 WR.

Correct 9. Santana Moss will not finish in the top 25 WR.

X 10. Bryan Fletcher will finish the year as a top 10 TE.

 

[Kleck.]

Here's my original posting on Ahman Green from Mid-July:I've been trying to figure out why Ahman Green still is getting some love on the forums and in the rankings. All of us FBGers should be ahead of the curve on situations like these that involve the starting RB of one of the 32 NFL teams, it should be the "Yahoo" guys out there that are making the rookie mistakes...From everything I can see is Ahman Green is a non factor, a Robert Edwards/KiJana Carter type flyer for deep leagues at this point, basically he's an injured player who should be under the label "Stick a fork in him".1. Ahman turns 30 in Feb.2. Ahman had 255 yards rushing last season with 5 starts, thats a 51 yard per game average, this was before his injury... 3. Ahman scored zero TDS last year. 4. Ahman had a 3.3 YPC last season, undrafted rookie Gado had a 4.1 YPC. 5. Gado was used as a workhorse last season in his starts, getting many 20+ carry games, something Ahman didn't get. Gado found the end zone 7 times in the 6 games he had more than 6 touches.6. Most importantly Ahman Greens injury is an injury that I have heard on numerous occasions and quoted from doctors "You do not ever fully recover from this injury" and "No football player has ever successfully came back from this injury". If Ahman Green comes back and even could go for 1000 in a full 16 games I will bow down and admit I have seen a miricle and root for Comeback player of the year. The odds are stacked against Ahman Green very heavily and in all reality he should at this point be in the "Stick a fork in him" category unless a miricle is the expectation here????? If it was an expectation, it wouldn't be a miricle so I ask why are some FBGers (Forum and Staff) giving out all this Ahman love, expectation of a miricle? We're supposed to be the ones ahead of the curve here, I think alot are missing the boat on this one.

More on Green, just trying to deal in reality with him:QUOTE(The Man With No Name @ Jul 19 2006, 12:31 AM)Here are some other players that have had the same injury(some torn quadriceps are more serious than others, from what I have read.Mike McCoy, Packers cb, 10/30/83. Never played again. Tore it again 7/23/84.Santana Dotson, Packers dt, 11/27/00. Played 16 games in 2001. that was it.Steve Warren, Packers dt, 12/03/00. Missed all of 2001, played 12 games in 2002. That was it.Darrell Ashmore, Raiders og, 08/06/02. Never played again.Brandon Christenson, Raiders te, 1/2003 during playoff game. Never played again.Frank Middleton, Raiders og, 10/12/03. Played 7 games in 2004. That was it.Joe Johnson, Packers de, 08/2003. Never played again.Leon Searcy, Jaguars ol, 2000 training camp. Never played again.Lawrence Smith, Bills ot, 08/2005. ???????? Hasn't played sinceTank Johnson, Bears dt, 03/2006. ????????Kevin Barry, Packers og, 05/2006. ????????Brett Conway, Skins k, 09/2002. Played 8 games in 2003. That was it.Anthony Parker, 49ers cb, 07/24/99. Played 16g in 2000, 5 in 2001 for Oakland. He was the 99th player selected in the '99 draft.Bernard Holsey, Bears dt, 02/2004. Hasn't played since.Belton Johnson, Bengals ot, 06/24/04. hasn't played since.Chad Scott, Steelers cb, 10/17/04. Missed 9 games, played season finale and 2 playoff games, but didn't start them. Played 3 games(4 tackles) in 2005 for Pats. Started 88 of 91 games in Steelers career.

I've posted some counter arguments to a some of these points in other Ahman Green threads. He remains one of the players I feel has good value with an ADP of RB #32 that can be had in the 6th. I don't want to to hijack this thread of your's into another Green debate so if anyone is interested in them they can do a search and we'll just leave it at that. I was just curious if there was anything new to the debate that made you continue to feel this way since Green has been given the clear. The season is upon us and we will all find out soon enough.

 

[Sinrman]

1. Ahman Green will be gone for good by week 4. He will reaggravate his injury and the career is over.2. Willis McGahee will be a top 5 RB.3. Shaun Alexander will once again be the #1 player in fantasy football.4. Joseph Addai will be a flat out flop and Indy will bring in another RB via trade in season.5. Steven Jackson will have a fantastic rushing season, only to not finish top 15 RB in fantasy due to S. Davis vulturing 8+ TDS.6. Marion Barber will take over the RB job in Dallas and make the most of his chances, but this won't come until mid season and he'll be highly ranked for 07. 7. Terrell Owens will be suspended/deactivated/cut by week 8 due to bad attitude. 8. Lee Evans will finish as a top 10 WR.9. Santana Moss will not finish in the top 25 WR.10. Bryan Fletcher will finish the year as a top 10 TE.

1) Eh, no2) 3) Certainly could see that4) Possibly5) Doubtful6) Certainly possible7) Possible, but I think he's somewhat learned his lesson -- don't see it happening THIS year -- ask me NEXT year though8) x29) Eh, no10) Eh, no

 

[CalBear]

1. Ahman Green will be gone for good by week 4. He will reaggravate his injury and the career is over.2. Willis McGahee will be a top 5 RB.3. Shaun Alexander will once again be the #1 player in fantasy football.4. Joseph Addai will be a flat out flop and Indy will bring in another RB via trade in season.5. Steven Jackson will have a fantastic rushing season, only to not finish top 15 RB in fantasy due to S. Davis vulturing 8+ TDS.6. Marion Barber will take over the RB job in Dallas and make the most of his chances, but this won't come until mid season and he'll be highly ranked for 07. 7. Terrell Owens will be suspended/deactivated/cut by week 8 due to bad attitude. 8. Lee Evans will finish as a top 10 WR.9. Santana Moss will not finish in the top 25 WR.10. Bryan Fletcher will finish the year as a top 10 TE.

1: Noah's Troopers sticks to his guns despite plenty of evidence to the contrary. His own data don't show any significant tendency towards re-injury, and mostly consist of mediocre players weighing 100 pounds more than Green who are completely dependent on leg power (linemen). It is not surprising that anyone on that list failed to play many games after a major injury; many of them would have been out of the league anyway.2: Noah's Troopers predicts a rushing title; McGahee puts up 1247 yards (#10). So his Homer Error was about 9 spots in 2005, which means if he's predicting McGahee to be top-5, we should expect him to actually wind up in the top-14. He was #13 in 2005, so that sounds about right.3: Woo, don't go too far out on a limb there.4: Again, you're not exactly saying much here.5: Not really possible. Let's say "fantastic rushing season" equals at least 1500 yards. Jackson will pick up at least another 300 on receptions. 1800 yards is 180 points; he would only need 3 or 4 TDs to make the top 15 if he has 1800 total yards. (I also think it's very unlikely that Davis will affect him that much).6: Pretty unlikely. He's a backup for 2006, barring injury. If he plays well as a backup, he might get a shot going into 2007.7: Why week 8? Oh, because you're just guessing.8: Homer adjustment, 9 spots. Evans as a top-19 WR, I can see that as plausible, although it would mean Buffalo got much better QB play than they seem likely to get right now.9: The #26 WR last year was Kevin Curtis, 866 yards and 6 TDs. Barring injury, there is no way Moss sinks to those levels. 10: Woo, top-10 TE, there's another ballsy prediction. (#10 TE had 554 yards and 5 TDs).

 

[Peyton Marino]

you have to be one of the biggest homers ever.

 

[Noahs Troopers]

[10: Woo, top-10 TE, there's another ballsy prediction. (#10 TE had 554 yards and 5 TDs).

It's ballsy cause Fletcher is the 3rd string TE on his own team.

 

[Noahs Troopers]

you have to be one of the biggest homers ever.

There are no 49ers on my list, how do you figure I'm a homer?

 

[Footballhead]

Hmm..make a prediction that'll make people go and

Here's a couple that could do that:

1. Reggie Bush will not live up to all the hype being the next Marshall Faulk in the league. He'll be mediocre at best.

2. The Steelers will not make the playoffs this year.

Ahh...here's another

3. Rookie of the year ....Deangelo Williams

 

[Fla\/\/ed]

1. Ahman Green will be gone for good by week 4. He will reaggravate his injury and the career is over.

So much for that thought.

 

[Limp Ditka]

1. Ahman Green will be gone for good by week 4. He will reaggravate his injury and the career is over.

So much for that thought.

Is it week 4 already?

 

[Fla\/\/ed]

1. Ahman Green will be gone for good by week 4. He will reaggravate his injury and the career is over.

So much for that thought.

Is it week 4 already?

What part of "by week 4" don't you understand?

 

[Otis]

These could be the worst 10 predictions ever. Is this guy still around?

 

[Limp Ditka]

1. Ahman Green will be gone for good by week 4. He will reaggravate his injury and the career is over.

So much for that thought.

Is it week 4 already?

What part of "by week 4" don't you understand?

I guess the part that you think you understand

 

[Fla\/\/ed]

1. Ahman Green will be gone for good by week 4. He will reaggravate his injury and the career is over.

So much for that thought.

Is it week 4 already?

What part of "by week 4" don't you understand?

I guess the part that you think you understand

Well.. week #4 is coming up and Green isn't gone for good by week #4. It's funny to watch you and your "objective" views on Green.

 

[Limp Ditka]

1. Ahman Green will be gone for good by week 4. He will reaggravate his injury and the career is over.

So much for that thought.

Is it week 4 already?

What part of "by week 4" don't you understand?

I guess the part that you think you understand

Well.. week #4 is coming up and Green isn't gone for good by week #4. It's funny to watch you and your "objective" views on Green.

That's odd. I don't seem to remember making a "view" about Ahman Green in here.

 

[Assani Fisher]

whiff!

 

[Fla\/\/ed]

1. Ahman Green will be gone for good by week 4. He will reaggravate his injury and the career is over.

So much for that thought.

Is it week 4 already?

What part of "by week 4" don't you understand?

I guess the part that you think you understand

Well.. week #4 is coming up and Green isn't gone for good by week #4. It's funny to watch you and your "objective" views on Green.

That's odd. I don't seem to remember making a "view" about Ahman Green in here.

My bad.....it's all the other Ahman Green threads and your "objective" thoughts on him.Too bad that "sell high" time has passed.

 

[Kleck.]

1. Ahman Green will be gone for good by week 4. He will reaggravate his injury and the career is over.

A couple of months ago you were claiming he would never play again. A month later Green gets closer to making his comeback and you claimed he wouldn't make it through camp. He's now the #1 heading into week 1 and you're claiming he'll be gone by week 4. Can't wait to see next month's Green injury prediction.

We should have a new Ahman Green injury prediction this week.

 

[Eric Stratton]

4. Joseph Addai will be a flat out flop and Indy will bring in another RB via trade in season.

 

[phrozen]

0-10 so far in the season

 

[Doctor Detroit]

0-10 so far in the season

phrozen=top ten FBG poster +

 

[my man otis]

0-10 so far in the season

______| d'oh ||_____| |

 

[phrozen]

0-10 so far in the season

phrozen=top ten FBG poster +

you are in my top ten too GB

 

[Peyton Marino]

guess this is it for Ahman....

 

[Nigel Tufnel]

 

[Ned]

guess this is it for Ahman....

sell high

 

[phrozen]

awesome 2nd round value for me