Noel Divine (1 Viewer)

[Carolina Hustler]

I think Devine will and did much like Sproles and he is not as good as Sproles. Having a willingness to bang around, yet still going down immediately doesn't make him any better in my eyes.

 

[JAA]

I don't really care whether they list him at 160 or 180. When I watch him play, I see a really small back. Dunn and James Brooks were 180 backs, but they didn't seem nearly as light as Devine. Darren Sproles is listed at 180. Devine doesn't appear to be as big (or as good) as Sproles, so I have to believe he bulked up to hit that 180. He'd be back to what is likely his natural weight(160) once the season started. He also looks like an average return man. Having him in your top 20 is a mistake IMO.

He played at 175 for 3 years. he was 170 his Freshman year. I also don't get the "light" comment. He was injured last year, facing 8 or 9 in the box at times and ran between the tackles a good deal. He always fell forward and churned out an extra yard or two with his legs. He has tremendous upper body strength, good lower body push, excellent burst and acceleration, very good lateral quickness, very good vision, and heart. When healthy he can be better than Sproles.

Ive watched every game of Devine's career and a number of Sproles games at SD, I didnt watch Sproles at KSU.Im a homer yes.

I believe Devine is better today than Darren Sproles. Much more dynamic, change of direction, acceleration. Devine's cutting ability is exceptional.

How much PT he see's will depend on how he picks up the blitzes. To be honest, I could see him more in the slot than backfield, I dont think there is anyway he can be consistently relied upon to protect the QB against NFL DL and LB.

 

[JamesTheScot]

Did Devine weigh again at the pro day?

The weight thing seems odd. When you don't workout, you can add muscle fairly quickly when you first start up. But even if Devine has been injured, he's still in pretty good shape and shouldn't have lost that much muscle mass while injured. It's not like he's some dude who just got into the gym for the first time in years and busted his ### for 6 weeks.

For a guy who starts at 160 and is already pretty well developed in his musculature, adding more than 10% of your starting weight over a few weeks looks funny. Did he try to add fat weight for weigh-in purposes or was he juicing it? Did he not run at the combine because he knew he was carrying around bad weight and would time slow? It does make you wonder.

I agree that it sounds strange. But Devine put 225 lbs 25 time. A 160 pounder that just started lifting doesn't come close to that. He clearly didn't play at 160, but I don't know how close to 180 he played at either.

Also, he weighed 179 again at his pro day. He ran a 4.26. He didn't skip the combine so he could lose weight and run a faster time. He was hurt.

I know that a 160# guy who just started lifting doesn't lift like that, that's my point of concern. Devine already knows his way around the weight room. So, for a 160# guy who's already pretty darn familar with the weight room to add 16 pounds of muscle in a few weeks seems pretty odd. If he were new to lifting, it would be more believable because he would benefit from that initial burst of "new guy" growth.But if he weighed in at 179# at the pro day and still clocked fast, it doesn't look like he plumped up for the weigh-in by snacking on Doritos and avoiding cardio.

The reason I'm surprised Devine put on 20lbs in a month is just how maxed he looked at the senior Bowl. He was in great shape - I have no idea where he put 20lbs.

There you go. Increasing your body weight by 10% or more over a few weeks and adding it as good weight is unusual, especially when you're already in pretty good shape and have been involved in a serious training program for several years.He could be one of those guys that is just blessed with good genes in that regard. I don't know...

 

[Jello_Biafra]

Not even a 7th round pick. I wanted to see the little guy get a chance.

 

[FUBAR]

Not even a 7th round pick. I wanted to see the little guy get a chance.

Maybe he'll follow Blount's path.

 

[shader]

Wonder if the extra weight he gained raised red flags

 

[madd futher]

IMHO, Devine wasn't even the most talented back that did not get drafted this year.

 

[Raider Nation]

I refuse to believe there are 32 more electric pass-catching 3rd down backs out there.

 

[rabidfireweasel]

Devine might get left behind in drafts, especially those done early. Due to the lockout, we probably won't get the off-season reports that make guys rise and fall due to their mini-camp performances.

I think Devine is a special talent. In certain league types, Devine could be one of the steals of the rookie draft.

In a standard, non-ppr league though, he probably won't get enough touches to be relevant as an every-week starter.

In non-ppr he is prolly un-rosterable

Oh, he will be rostered. He will be rostered.

Just not by any NFL teams yet.

 

[LHUCKS]

ridiculous he didn't get drafted unless there's something I don't know.

Based on what I've seen on the field, no way does this kid not get drafted.

 

[pghrob]

ridiculous he didn't get drafted unless there's something I don't know.Based on what I've seen on the field, no way does this kid not get drafted.

Maybe he will turn out to be another Danny Woodhead.

 

[JAA]

ridiculous he didn't get drafted unless there's something I don't know.Based on what I've seen on the field, no way does this kid not get drafted.

Maybe he will turn out to be another Danny Woodhead.

I was very surprised. Maybe something is not on the up and up ...I find it hard to believe he wont get a chance to make some team out there

 

[JAA]

http://wvillustrated.com/wvufootball/story/id/1012

 

[shader]

From what I've seen, the fact that there is no free agency may have played a part. A lot of GM's feel that without free agency, they had to go get players in which there is positional scarcity or in which they had holes. Most teams are pretty deep at RB, so why take Devine in the 7th when they can take a CB with upside and then get a RB in undrafted free agency.

My thoughts on Devine are the same as they were. I think he will be on a roster next year and be a pretty decent option a few times a game. At the very least, he could be a good punt returner.

 

[LHUCKS]

My thoughts on Devine are the same as they were. I think he will be on a roster next year and be a pretty decent option a few times a game. At the very least, he could be a good punt returner.

I agree that this is how he fits in initially, but I'm of the opinion he can do a bit more than that as he gains experience.Still can't believe he didn't get drafted...probably the most talented kid I can recall that didn't get drafted.

 

[cstu]

My thoughts on Devine are the same as they were. I think he will be on a roster next year and be a pretty decent option a few times a game. At the very least, he could be a good punt returner.

I agree that this is how he fits in initially, but I'm of the opinion he can do a bit more than that as he gains experience.Still can't believe he didn't get drafted...probably the most talented kid I can recall that didn't get drafted.

Talented, yes, but the consensus seems to be that he's too small for the NFL. He'll get a shot so not getting drafted isn't a big deal IMO.

 

[elguapo07]

I'm thinking Divine might be somewhere between Lionel James and Joe Washington in regards to stature and skill set. Don't think he's as good as a receiver as James was nor is he as good as a back as Washington was. I do think he has a good chance at decent a career as a change-of-pace back / KR with the right team.

 

[kentric]

I think Devine will and did much like Sproles and he is not as good as Sproles. Having a willingness to bang around, yet still going down immediately doesn't make him any better in my eyes.

Sure didn't look like 4.3 speed to me. He was chased down by a CB who was directly behind him (no angle) and Devine had a four yard lead.

 

[LHUCKS]

what did he run at the combine?

 

[Concept Coop]

what did he run at the combine?

He didn't, due to injury. He ran a 4.26 at his pro-day.

 

[LHUCKS]

what did he run at the combine?

He didn't, due to injury. He ran a 4.26 at his pro-day.

and he looked that fast on the field too...I simply don't understand how 32 NFL GMs could pass on this kid after 7 rounds of drafting.

 

[Raider Nation]

I think I'm more shocked John Clay went undrafted. But Devine is a close 2nd.

Maybe the scouts thought Clay had mammoth holes against Indiana and Northwestern that Vince Wilfork could have run through.

 

[madd futher]

I think I'm more shocked John Clay went undrafted. But Devine is a close 2nd.Maybe the scouts thought Clay had mammoth holes against Indiana and Northwestern that Vince Wilfork could have run through.

I can't say that either of these guys going undrafted shocks me at all. The two RBs that I really BELIEVED would have gotten drafted were Chad Spann and Derrick Locke.

 

[eaglesfan7]

I think I'm more shocked John Clay went undrafted. But Devine is a close 2nd.Maybe the scouts thought Clay had mammoth holes against Indiana and Northwestern that Vince Wilfork could have run through.

I can't say that either of these guys going undrafted shocks me at all. The two RBs that I really BELIEVED would have gotten drafted were Chad Spann and Derrick Locke.

Weren't they both drafted in the 6th or 7th round?

 

[madd futher]

I think I'm more shocked John Clay went undrafted. But Devine is a close 2nd.Maybe the scouts thought Clay had mammoth holes against Indiana and Northwestern that Vince Wilfork could have run through.

I can't say that either of these guys going undrafted shocks me at all. The two RBs that I really BELIEVED would have gotten drafted were Chad Spann and Derrick Locke.

Weren't they both drafted in the 6th or 7th round?

UDFAs

 

[Concept Coop]

what did he run at the combine?

He didn't, due to injury. He ran a 4.26 at his pro-day.

and he looked that fast on the field too...I simply don't understand how 32 NFL GMs could pass on this kid after 7 rounds of drafting.

I agree. I am convinced that it has something to do with his weight/"injury" issue. I think teams took him off of their board when he weighed in at 160. There was not much of an explanation when he later weighed in at 179, so I don't think they put him back on them. It sounds like his agent mishandled the situation.

 

[Warhogs]

A little off topic here but with the lockout in place it may throw a wrench into things for some dynasty leagues based on how your rules are written. I play in zealots and undrafted rookie free agents currently would not be eligible to be drafted until they sign with a team. Guys like Divine who went undrafted will not be able to be signed until the sign with an NFL team.