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No ####.Cowherd goes on the air and rips Young for throwing short passes, etc, then has Garrard on (whom I love, btw) and praises his patience and willingness to take what the offense will give him all day (specifically the checkdown to the rb) when the deep pass just isn't there, talking about how mature that makes him.Which is it?
Sure he can, just not very accurately. Though I will say he's been improving in that areaYeah...I bet it was just those 2 games that were hard at all.Good lord some of you just love to hate.2 out of 13 games...and how many times in those games did VY ever pass for more than 10 yards (in the air not YAC).Against USC: 0. It was constant dump offs to the TE...any deep ball was INC.Yeah...I hate when a team plays OSU and then beats USC in the national championship game.
What a weak schedule.
I think his skill set does translate...we will see in the future...again, this was his 2nd year.
I don't think Chow's offense translates to the NFL...and certainly not to Vince Young or Jeff Fisher's sytle at all.
But you're getting away from the topic at hand...and I know why.
You don't think he can throw over 10 yards? Are you serious?
I think you chose a bad example. Brady is very accurate, one of the best ever on short passes, but his long balls are not very good.
Fortunately his coaches who know his strengths and weaknesses call the plays and send out the short patterns as his primary receiver. Unless you think Young calls his own plays.
The one at :30 is 16 yards, you can tell by the yellow line, marking 10 yards from the line of scrimmage. The ball was thrown behind the WR, who had to turn around to catch it. The one at 0:58 was 12 yards, the WR was standing still and it was a terrible throw, the WR had to go down to his knees because the ball was so badly thrown. The longest pass in the video by Young was about 22 yards, and he overthrew his WR and it was tipped by the DB at the back of the end zone.I don't think that video helped your cause at all.
Amazing catch, if Young had put a slightly better arc on the ball and threw it so the WR could have kept running, it would have been a TD. Most times that throw would go off the WRs fingertips incomplete. Even the announcers say "what a grab" not "what a throw".You mean this one ?The only deep ball he ever threw at Texas was a 3 flies up airball that his WR jumped and caught who was 8 inches taller than the Baylor midget covering him.
Yet his accuracy numbers match Palmer and Leinart...despite the claim that he does not throw over 10 yards...which he did and does.This is pure opinion that is not really substantiated by any facts.
No...I chose a great example of a QB being bashed because he throws short passes...yet we praise another as being so accurate throwing short passes.
Yes...his strength of being able to read defenses quickly, run the ball if need be...and deliver even deep passes.
The video proved that bagger was full of it when claiming that he did not throw the ball over 10 yards.It is all it was intended to do.
I don't think Chow was fired largely due to Young's regression. I think it had much less to do with that than several other things.The offense ranked 22, 16, 21 in his three years in Tennessee (the first year without Young).Many thought his offense would not work that well in Tennessee before the hire.Many thought it would not mesh well with Fisher before the hire.Now when he is fired, it must be so much about Vince.Vince is part of it for sure....but so is how his system and Fisher's system did not work well together and did not fit with Vince.
Actually, pretty much anyone but a Young critic would say "Great throw and great catch." The point, though, was that it was easy to find and it wasn't anything like you described. It wasn't the only deep throw he made at Texas. It wasn't even the only one he made in that game. He completed multiple deep throws in every game.switz said:Amazing catch, if Young had put a slightly better arc on the ball and threw it so the WR could have kept running, it would have been a TD. Most times that throw would go off the WRs fingertips incomplete. Even the announcers say "what a grab" not "what a throw".You mean this one ?The only deep ball he ever threw at Texas was a 3 flies up airball that his WR jumped and caught who was 8 inches taller than the Baylor midget covering him.
I don't know why, butAbraham said:
5 wide is not the spread option.VY will be just as poor in a 5 wide as he is in a more traditional set...probably worse since there is no play action for him to work off of.This is too close to the "Michael Vick has no WR options" excuse...sho nuff said:
Where did I say spread option.I said the spread...there are different versions of it...not all are predicated on a running QB or option type plays.Why would he be so worse in 5 wide than any other set?If the field is spread out by WRs...it could open up lanes for him to run.If they go 4 wide they could still have a RB back there.Its all kind of pointless though as Fisher will never install any type of spread offense. Maybe a few spread plays...but thats it.Oh...and it is true that the Titans don't have the WRs to run it anyway. They barely had the personnel to run normal sets in the playoffs.Call it an excuse all you want...but Justin Gage, Byron Ealy, and Ben Hartsock are not NFL quality frontline starters.
Maybe they'd be better if a quality QB could get them the ball.Before Moss, Brady did a lot with nothing.
Brady is the exception, not the rule. And he's from Michigan, what do you expect.
Troy Brown, Deion Branch....are 10 X better than Justin Gage, Byron Ealy, and Ben Hartsock.No matter who the QB...the receivers the Titans trotted out for the playoffs were just awful...no reasonable person can deny this.
They're in the bottom quartile of the league for sure. But the Raiders, 49ers, Falcons, Bears, Ravens, Dolphins off the top of my head are just as bad. And yet those teams were better passing offenses.
The Raiders?Curry alone is better than everyone the Titans had in that playoff game combined.Bears? Mush, Berrian and Clark are miles ahead of the Titans receivers that game.Falcons at least have White.Ravens? Really? Mason anyone?Dolphins? At the end of the year yes...Id give you that....but they are the ones who got rid of Chambers.9ers Id give you as well.But no...most of those teams were not even close to as bad as the Titans guys.
Brady's never had a group of WRs like those just mentioned above. Brady's never had sub-average receivers. That's a myth propagated by Brady defenders.
