James Daulton
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"Only" 1 reported dead so far.
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Northern Arizona University Shooting (1 Viewer)
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Apple Jack
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Saw one headline that used the word massacre. Those editors do no favors for team gun regs and should be punched in their noses for being opportunistic tools.
Cliff Clavin
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Three were injured and one was killed in an early morning shooting today at Northern Arizona University, according to officials. The AP reports the suspected shooter is in custody.
Northern Arizona University public relations director Cindy Brown says the shooting occurred at 1:20 a.m. PDT outside of the Mountain View Hall dormitory, but details beyond that are limited. It is unclear what caused the shooting and information about whether the victims were students is unavailable at the moment.
An emergency alert sent by the university this morning notified students about the shooting and asked residents of the Mountain View Hall dorm to stay indoors:
According to a statement released by the university, the campus is not currently on lockdown. A press conference about the shooting will be held at 6 a.m. PDT.
Northern Arizona University public relations director Cindy Brown says the shooting occurred at 1:20 a.m. PDT outside of the Mountain View Hall dormitory, but details beyond that are limited. It is unclear what caused the shooting and information about whether the victims were students is unavailable at the moment.
An emergency alert sent by the university this morning notified students about the shooting and asked residents of the Mountain View Hall dorm to stay indoors:
According to a statement released by the university, the campus is not currently on lockdown. A press conference about the shooting will be held at 6 a.m. PDT.
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I hate to be "that guy", but this could be just a random shooting at a school (dorm), and not a school shooting. Happened early morning outside of the dorms. Do students need to pass through metal detectors to get to their dorm?
Still sucks for all involved though. :(
Still sucks for all involved though. :(
James Daulton
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How many drunk ### shootings happened in college parking lots when you went to college? For me, zero.
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This is what I'm thinking. Though the media wastes no time making it sound columbine all over again everytime someone drops a textbook.
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El Floppo
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Man: Two?
Announcer: Guess again.
Man: Three?
Announcer: A little higher.
Man: Four?
Announcer: Keep trying.
Man: Five?
Announcer: No, you'll have to do better than that.
Man: Seven?
Announcer: Guess again.
Man: Eight?
Announcer: We'll give you one more guess.
Man: Nine.
Announcer: Not even close.
IC FBGCav
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There was one at my school in 1990, a local shot a teacher and two students leaving a college bar. Got two in the leg and my buddy in the back. They had open him up from sternum to crotch to get all the bullet parts out. Other than the scar he got lucky with no permanent damage. Erie, PA FYI and the guy used a sawed off .22 rifle.
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Apple Jack
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ClownCausedChaos2
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Cliff Clavin
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msommer
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Henry Ford
Footballguy
It's a shooting. At a school. Is this another one of those phrases that people decided mean something other than what they actually mean and get upset when other people use them to mean what they actually mean?
Henry Ford
Footballguy
USC?
Peyton Marino
Footballguy
we need to take a long hard look at regulations forcing people to own guns imo
El Floppo
Footballguy
it was a fight at a school that escalated to a terrible end. with a gun.
not upset about it, but seems different to me.
El Floppo
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IC FBGCav
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COMMONWEALTH PENNSYLVANIA v. DANIEL HOBSON
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Mar 5, 1992 - In the Court of Common Pleas of Erie County. Criminal Division ... One of the victims, Jeffrey Nagle, was shot in the back and seriously injured.
In the instant case, there was evidence that a bullet was removed from the abdomen of victim Jeffrey Nagle during the surgery which he underwent after the shooting. Nagle's surgeon testified that if the bullet had not been removed by the surgical procedure, Nagle would have died. Nagle himself testified that he was shot in the back after two of his companions had each been shot in the leg. Nagle's companions also testified as to the shootings at trial, and to the fact that one of two black men who asked them for a dollar was carrying something in his hand described as a pipe and a piece of wood. Appellant's companion at the time of the shooting testified that appellant fired a sawed-off .22 rifle three times at three men who were walking past them towards an establishment called "The Shaggy Dog."
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Peyton Marino
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Fennis
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Jayrod
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Sorry, thought we were talking about school violence in here and rates of occurrence.
Anytime I think of killings at schools, it reminds me of this story. I lived in the room above the murderer in my dorm. Crazy times.
shadyridr
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El Floppo
Footballguy
we also had an FBI raid of my freshman dorm because on of the other kids broke into the physics labs, stole some plutonium (!?) and tried to grow irradiated weed in a hidden part of the dorm basement. the FBI guys had guns, but pretty sure nobody got shot.
eta: I can't keep up with Jayrod... holy wow.
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Fennis
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Jayrod
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Unfortunately I think that only applies to the roommate. Although he did come up one time to ask me to stop dribbling the ball because he was trying to sleep during the day because he worked nights. He was nice about it.
Ditkaless Wonders
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Time to institute universal background checks on male students, and to register all schools.
Ditkaless Wonders
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It is beyond tragic that we have to pry diploma's from the recipient's cold dead hands.
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I'm not trying to split hairs here, and you know that. We've had the awful premeditated incidents lately that have been planned out by the shooter. If the shooter was waiting for the victim so he could shoot them, then I would call it a "school shooting". If it was an altercation that escalated, that's different. No doubt still awful, but I think you know the difference. We really don't know anything yet.
If you want to ban all guns or just handguns, I understand and you have the right to those feelings. Just saying if a fight breaks out and someone pulls a gun, it's not the same as someone planning a massacre. There is a difference between Murder I and Murder II.
timschochet
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Is this supposed to be funny or ironic? I'm not getting it.
Ditkaless Wonders
Footballguy
I am unable to find humor in the death of innocent young people seeking little more than educational opportunity.
jonessed
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My college campus had a homicide while I was there. It was during the summer and I had limited contact with people involved so it didn't have much impact on me.
College campuses become home for a lot of students though so I think the impact on the student body can sometimes be quite substantial.
College campuses become home for a lot of students though so I think the impact on the student body can sometimes be quite substantial.
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Fennis
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you probably didn't see the rusty ax he was holding behind his back in case you refused to stop bouncing that ####### basketball
Henry Ford
Footballguy
I'm not discussing banning guns, I'm discussing linguistics. And we still call both murder 1 and murder 2 "murder." Just like a premeditated school shooting and a spur of the moment school shooting are both school shootings.I'm not trying to split hairs here, and you know that. We've had the awful premeditated incidents lately that have been planned out by the shooter. If the shooter was waiting for the victim so he could shoot them, then I would call it a "school shooting". If it was an altercation that escalated, that's different. No doubt still awful, but I think you know the difference. We really don't know anything yet.
If you want to ban all guns or just handguns, I understand and you have the right to those feelings. Just saying if a fight breaks out and someone pulls a gun, it's not the same as someone planning a massacre. There is a difference between Murder I and Murder II.
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timschochet
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Well hopefully nobody is. But I didn't understand your previous two posts.
El Floppo
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I'm not discussing banning guns, I'm discussing linguistics. And we still call both murder 1 and murder 2 "murder." Just like a premeditated school shooting and a spur of the moment school shooting are both school shootings.I'm not trying to split hairs here, and you know that. We've had the awful premeditated incidents lately that have been planned out by the shooter. If the shooter was waiting for the victim so he could shoot them, then I would call it a "school shooting". If it was an altercation that escalated, that's different. No doubt still awful, but I think you know the difference. We really don't know anything yet.
If you want to ban all guns or just handguns, I understand and you have the right to those feelings. Just saying if a fight breaks out and someone pulls a gun, it's not the same as someone planning a massacre. There is a difference between Murder I and Murder II.
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This dude has been up to crazy semantics arguments like this for a long time. Have him on ignore but unfortunately quoted bits still make it through. Good to see he's still as nuts as ever.
Ditkaless Wonders
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Sometimes my written communication in English lacks the clarity, subtlety, and nuance I would hope to achieve. Sometimes my postings are just for me, and I am warped.
I do appreciate the opportunity to practice communicating here. Someday I hope to move from proficiency to fluency, and then, perhaps, even to mastery of the language.
Henry Ford
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I'm not the one who said we shouldn't call it a school shooting. I'm responding to the semantic argument that someone else brought up.This dude has been up to crazy semantics arguments like this for a long time. Have him on ignore but unfortunately quoted bits still make it through. Good to see he's still as nuts as ever.
I do, however, really dig the fact that icon has me on ignore.
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El Floppo
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I wish somebody would ignore me.I'm not the one who said we shouldn't call it a school shooting. I'm responding to the semantic argument that someone else brought up.This dude has been up to crazy semantics arguments like this for a long time. Have him on ignore but unfortunately quoted bits still make it through. Good to see he's still as nuts as ever.
I do, however, really dig the fact that icon has me on ignore.
I mean- with the ignore button, instead of... life.
Henry Ford
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It's only been a couple days. I'll let you know how it goes. I expect I'll like it.
TheAristocrat
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That is weird. It's like criminals don't feel like they need to abide by the rules on the posted sign.
