NY Times calls for legalizing pot (1 Viewer)

[E-Z Glider]

Eh. I appreciate your opinion Dr J which is why I want it legalized. It sucks that I would likely lose out on a job if all things being equal were I arrested for any pot charge.

I think we're all on the same page here, but risking your career is a very real reality to many people who live in areas where it's still treated like bank robbery.

Were I to get arrested for pot or dui , I'd lose my job. And my future job prospects would be diminished ... If that's laughable to you, I'd love to know the field you work in so I can work in that field as well.

I'm in IT. I've never been asked to disclose non felony charges. And I show up high to take my drug tests, just on the principal of the matter.

I'm in IT and the higher-ups forced me to let my best programmer go last year because he failed a drug test for weed.

And when new prospective employers call about his termination, what is your company's policy on explaining why he was let go?

We dont give information about anything (termination, salary, etc) anymore. If someone calls us about a previous employer, all we do is verify that they worked here and give their start and end dates. I assume most businesses do the same.

 

[Henry Ford]

Eh. I appreciate your opinion Dr J which is why I want it legalized. It sucks that I would likely lose out on a job if all things being equal were I arrested for any pot charge.

I think we're all on the same page here, but risking your career is a very real reality to many people who live in areas where it's still treated like bank robbery.

Were I to get arrested for pot or dui , I'd lose my job. And my future job prospects would be diminished ... If that's laughable to you, I'd love to know the field you work in so I can work in that field as well.

I'm in IT. I've never been asked to disclose non felony charges. And I show up high to take my drug tests, just on the principal of the matter.

I'm in IT and the higher-ups forced me to let my best programmer go last year because he failed a drug test for weed.

And when new prospective employers call about his termination, what is your company's policy on explaining why he was let go?

We dont give information about anything (termination, salary, etc) anymore. If someone calls us about a previous employer, all we do is verify that they worked here and give their start and end dates. I assume most businesses do the same.

Depends heavily on where you are and what field you're in.

 

[jwb]

Eh. I appreciate your opinion Dr J which is why I want it legalized. It sucks that I would likely lose out on a job if all things being equal were I arrested for any pot charge.

I think we're all on the same page here, but risking your career is a very real reality to many people who live in areas where it's still treated like bank robbery.

Were I to get arrested for pot or dui , I'd lose my job. And my future job prospects would be diminished ... If that's laughable to you, I'd love to know the field you work in so I can work in that field as well.

I'm in IT. I've never been asked to disclose non felony charges. And I show up high to take my drug tests, just on the principal of the matter.

I'm in IT and the higher-ups forced me to let my best programmer go last year because he failed a drug test for weed.

And when new prospective employers call about his termination, what is your company's policy on explaining why he was let go?

We dont give information about anything (termination, salary, etc) anymore. If someone calls us about a previous employer, all we do is verify that they worked here and give their start and end dates. I assume most businesses do the same.

Depends heavily on where you are and what field you're in.

A company where the immediate supervisor / owner answers the reference questions, maybe. Any company with a HR department / person? I would guess there's almost no chance of getting info. These days, a company has zero to gain by giving details, and a lot to lose.

 

[Henry Ford]

Eh. I appreciate your opinion Dr J which is why I want it legalized. It sucks that I would likely lose out on a job if all things being equal were I arrested for any pot charge.

I think we're all on the same page here, but risking your career is a very real reality to many people who live in areas where it's still treated like bank robbery.

Were I to get arrested for pot or dui , I'd lose my job. And my future job prospects would be diminished ... If that's laughable to you, I'd love to know the field you work in so I can work in that field as well.

I'm in IT. I've never been asked to disclose non felony charges. And I show up high to take my drug tests, just on the principal of the matter.

I'm in IT and the higher-ups forced me to let my best programmer go last year because he failed a drug test for weed.

And when new prospective employers call about his termination, what is your company's policy on explaining why he was let go?

We dont give information about anything (termination, salary, etc) anymore. If someone calls us about a previous employer, all we do is verify that they worked here and give their start and end dates. I assume most businesses do the same.

Depends heavily on where you are and what field you're in.

A company where the immediate supervisor / owner answers the reference questions, maybe. Any company with a HR department / person? I would guess there's almost no chance of getting info. These days, a company has zero to gain by giving details, and a lot to lose.

I agree. A public school system has zero to gain and lots to use in teaching that Jesus is the Lord and Savior of mankind, and it still happens. People do lots of stupid things.

 

[Bronx Bomber]

So, what is the strategy for controlling for high while driving? Has this been discussed already. Do cops just look for bloodshot eyes and then make you take a piss test? What are the limits of how high you can be while driving?

 

[Ilov80s]

So, what is the strategy for controlling for high while driving? Has this been discussed already. Do cops just look for bloodshot eyes and then make you take a piss test? What are the limits of how high you can be while driving?

Science and the government are working on and studying how to accurately measure how high someone is and what is too high to drive. We should worry more about cell phones and driving though. Studies have shown it is often more dangerous than weed or booze and it is legal in most places.

 

[James Daulton]

It really depends on where you are. Louisiana, there's a disciplinary action against a lawyer who was found in possession roughly every month or two. Sometimes extremely harsh penalties follow:

This does surprise me. I'm still willing to take the chance though.

You're in Maryland. I have a feeling things are different there.

Yeah, in 65 days it'll be decriminalized here. I've talked to my wife about having some sort of decriminalization day party but I doubt if it'll actually happen. The first day falls on a Wednesday so might be tough to get something going.

I'm in Maryland. This just means that you won't get prosecuted if you're caught with it, right? Also, I'm a regular suburban guy, I have no idea where to go to buy weed. Probably like a lot of people.

 

[fatguyinalittlecoat]

Yeah, in 65 days it'll be decriminalized here. I've talked to my wife about having some sort of decriminalization day party but I doubt if it'll actually happen. The first day falls on a Wednesday so might be tough to get something going.

I'm in Maryland. This just means that you won't get prosecuted if you're caught with it, right? Also, I'm a regular suburban guy, I have no idea where to go to buy weed. Probably like a lot of people.

Right, it's still illegal to sell it, but if you possess under a certain amount (I think 10 grams), it's not a criminal violation. You just pay a fine like a parking ticket or something.

You probably know some people who smoke weed and could help you out but you don't know it. I'll admit that striking up that conversation can be difficult in certain situations.

 

[James Daulton]

Yeah, in 65 days it'll be decriminalized here. I've talked to my wife about having some sort of decriminalization day party but I doubt if it'll actually happen. The first day falls on a Wednesday so might be tough to get something going.

I'm in Maryland. This just means that you won't get prosecuted if you're caught with it, right? Also, I'm a regular suburban guy, I have no idea where to go to buy weed. Probably like a lot of people.

Right, it's still illegal to sell it, but if you possess under a certain amount (I think 10 grams), it's not a criminal violation. You just pay a fine like a parking ticket or something.

You probably know some people who smoke weed and could help you out but you don't know it. I'll admit that striking up that conversation can be difficult in certain situations.

You're likely right about knowing people who do it but not knowing that they do. At this point may as just wait the couple of years until it's legal in MD.

As an aside, I was thinking the other day that one way Atlantic City could buy themselves some time and bring in a lot more people would be to legalize pot. Could a city just legalize it, or would a whole state have to? If AC could make it work, they could buy themselves a few years of cash flow for which to re-tool to offer something even different for their long term survival. But they'd have to act fast before the rest of the country legalizes it.

 

[fatguyinalittlecoat]

Yeah, in 65 days it'll be decriminalized here. I've talked to my wife about having some sort of decriminalization day party but I doubt if it'll actually happen. The first day falls on a Wednesday so might be tough to get something going.

I'm in Maryland. This just means that you won't get prosecuted if you're caught with it, right? Also, I'm a regular suburban guy, I have no idea where to go to buy weed. Probably like a lot of people.

Right, it's still illegal to sell it, but if you possess under a certain amount (I think 10 grams), it's not a criminal violation. You just pay a fine like a parking ticket or something.

You probably know some people who smoke weed and could help you out but you don't know it. I'll admit that striking up that conversation can be difficult in certain situations.

You're likely right about knowing people who do it but not knowing that they do. At this point may as just wait the couple of years until it's legal in MD.

As an aside, I was thinking the other day that one way Atlantic City could buy themselves some time and bring in a lot more people would be to legalize pot. Could a city just legalize it, or would a whole state have to? If AC could make it work, they could buy themselves a few years of cash flow for which to re-tool to offer something even different for their long term survival.

A city could only do it if the state let them. Governor Christie has indicated he's not in favor of any sort of legalization so I don't see this happening.

 

[joffer]

Yeah, in 65 days it'll be decriminalized here. I've talked to my wife about having some sort of decriminalization day party but I doubt if it'll actually happen. The first day falls on a Wednesday so might be tough to get something going.

I'm in Maryland. This just means that you won't get prosecuted if you're caught with it, right? Also, I'm a regular suburban guy, I have no idea where to go to buy weed. Probably like a lot of people.

Right, it's still illegal to sell it, but if you possess under a certain amount (I think 10 grams), it's not a criminal violation. You just pay a fine like a parking ticket or something.You probably know some people who smoke weed and could help you out but you don't know it. I'll admit that striking up that conversation can be difficult in certain situations.

You're likely right about knowing people who do it but not knowing that they do. At this point may as just wait the couple of years until it's legal in MD.As an aside, I was thinking the other day that one way Atlantic City could buy themselves some time and bring in a lot more people would be to legalize pot. Could a city just legalize it, or would a whole state have to? If AC could make it work, they could buy themselves a few years of cash flow for which to re-tool to offer something even different for their long term survival.

A city could only do it if the state let them. Governor Christie has indicated he's not in favor of any sort of legalization so I don't see this happening.

Something tells me if it gets popular enough in the polls, he'll have a miraculous change of heart.

 

[James Daulton]

Yeah, in 65 days it'll be decriminalized here. I've talked to my wife about having some sort of decriminalization day party but I doubt if it'll actually happen. The first day falls on a Wednesday so might be tough to get something going.

I'm in Maryland. This just means that you won't get prosecuted if you're caught with it, right? Also, I'm a regular suburban guy, I have no idea where to go to buy weed. Probably like a lot of people.

Right, it's still illegal to sell it, but if you possess under a certain amount (I think 10 grams), it's not a criminal violation. You just pay a fine like a parking ticket or something.You probably know some people who smoke weed and could help you out but you don't know it. I'll admit that striking up that conversation can be difficult in certain situations.

You're likely right about knowing people who do it but not knowing that they do. At this point may as just wait the couple of years until it's legal in MD.As an aside, I was thinking the other day that one way Atlantic City could buy themselves some time and bring in a lot more people would be to legalize pot. Could a city just legalize it, or would a whole state have to? If AC could make it work, they could buy themselves a few years of cash flow for which to re-tool to offer something even different for their long term survival.

A city could only do it if the state let them. Governor Christie has indicated he's not in favor of any sort of legalization so I don't see this happening.

Something tells me if it gets popular enough in the polls, he'll have a miraculous change of heart.

Do you think that could buy AC some time and much needed cash though? Ultimately they do need to re-tool and become more than just a gambling destination but the way the city is failing, I don't think they have enough time.

 

[fatguyinalittlecoat]

You're likely right about knowing people who do it but not knowing that they do. At this point may as just wait the couple of years until it's legal in MD.As an aside, I was thinking the other day that one way Atlantic City could buy themselves some time and bring in a lot more people would be to legalize pot. Could a city just legalize it, or would a whole state have to? If AC could make it work, they could buy themselves a few years of cash flow for which to re-tool to offer something even different for their long term survival.

A city could only do it if the state let them. Governor Christie has indicated he's not in favor of any sort of legalization so I don't see this happening.

Something tells me if it gets popular enough in the polls, he'll have a miraculous change of heart.

Sure, eventually, but I was just responding to James Daulton's suggestion that Atlantic City take the lead in bringing legalization to the East Coast. It seems highly doubtful because there are at least 8 or 9 East Coast states that are ahead of New Jersey on this right now.

 

[mquinnjr]

Yeah, in 65 days it'll be decriminalized here. I've talked to my wife about having some sort of decriminalization day party but I doubt if it'll actually happen. The first day falls on a Wednesday so might be tough to get something going.

I'm in Maryland. This just means that you won't get prosecuted if you're caught with it, right? Also, I'm a regular suburban guy, I have no idea where to go to buy weed. Probably like a lot of people.

Right, it's still illegal to sell it, but if you possess under a certain amount (I think 10 grams), it's not a criminal violation. You just pay a fine like a parking ticket or something.You probably know some people who smoke weed and could help you out but you don't know it. I'll admit that striking up that conversation can be difficult in certain situations.

You're likely right about knowing people who do it but not knowing that they do. At this point may as just wait the couple of years until it's legal in MD.As an aside, I was thinking the other day that one way Atlantic City could buy themselves some time and bring in a lot more people would be to legalize pot. Could a city just legalize it, or would a whole state have to? If AC could make it work, they could buy themselves a few years of cash flow for which to re-tool to offer something even different for their long term survival.

A city could only do it if the state let them. Governor Christie has indicated he's not in favor of any sort of legalization so I don't see this happening.

Something tells me if it gets popular enough in the polls, he'll have a miraculous change of heart.

Do you think that could buy AC some time and much needed cash though? Ultimately they do need to re-tool and become more than just a gambling destination but the way the city is failing, I don't think they have enough time.

If they got weed and sports, there's be no reason to go to Vegas for east coasters. Pipe dream, but ball is in NJ's court to keep fighting the good fight against the NCAA and pro sports leagues, etc.

 

[The_Man]

Just reading through this thread, and one thing is very clear.

DrJ is the least mellow pothead I've ever seen.

 

[NCCommish]

According to various studies on any given day at least 16 million people smoke pot. And that number is probably low. There are likely very few people who don't know someone that smokes whether they realize it or not.

 

[The_Man]

It really depends on where you are. Louisiana, there's a disciplinary action against a lawyer who was found in possession roughly every month or two. Sometimes extremely harsh penalties follow:

This does surprise me. I'm still willing to take the chance though.

You're in Maryland. I have a feeling things are different there.

Yeah, in 65 days it'll be decriminalized here. I've talked to my wife about having some sort of decriminalization day party but I doubt if it'll actually happen. The first day falls on a Wednesday so might be tough to get something going.

Was thinking another cornhole would be nice...

 

[James Daulton]

It really depends on where you are. Louisiana, there's a disciplinary action against a lawyer who was found in possession roughly every month or two. Sometimes extremely harsh penalties follow:

This does surprise me. I'm still willing to take the chance though.

You're in Maryland. I have a feeling things are different there.

Yeah, in 65 days it'll be decriminalized here. I've talked to my wife about having some sort of decriminalization day party but I doubt if it'll actually happen. The first day falls on a Wednesday so might be tough to get something going.

Was thinking another cornhole would be nice...

Now there's an idea I can get behind.

 

[tommyGunZ]

There does seem to be a distinct difference between people that actually get drug tested and those that do not. I'm assuming Otis and Henry Ford and other private lawyers are not being drug tested. They're the ones that got the original pushback.

I'm not worried about drug testing, but what about in buying it? What if I happen to go to some guy's house the day the Feds decide to roll in?

Again, just not a risk I'm comfortable taking. But I understand that's different for others.

Certainly a different world on the East Coast, but why wouldn't you just ask your friend to pick up a quarter for you next time he re-ups?

ETA: Mrs Oats stays at home, right? Have her buy. Pretty sure it's standard boilerplate language in the vows.

 

[Otis]

Eh. I appreciate your opinion Dr J which is why I want it legalized. It sucks that I would likely lose out on a job if all things being equal were I arrested for any pot charge.

I think we're all on the same page here, but risking your career is a very real reality to many people who live in areas where it's still treated like bank robbery.

Were I to get arrested for pot or dui , I'd lose my job. And my future job prospects would be diminished ... If that's laughable to you, I'd love to know the field you work in so I can work in that field as well.

I'm in IT. I've never been asked to disclose non felony charges. And I show up high to take my drug tests, just on the principal of the matter.

I'm in IT and the higher-ups forced me to let my best programmer go last year because he failed a drug test for weed.

Oops.

 

[NCCommish]

Eh. I appreciate your opinion Dr J which is why I want it legalized. It sucks that I would likely lose out on a job if all things being equal were I arrested for any pot charge.

I think we're all on the same page here, but risking your career is a very real reality to many people who live in areas where it's still treated like bank robbery.

Were I to get arrested for pot or dui , I'd lose my job. And my future job prospects would be diminished ... If that's laughable to you, I'd love to know the field you work in so I can work in that field as well.

I'm in IT. I've never been asked to disclose non felony charges. And I show up high to take my drug tests, just on the principal of the matter.

I'm in IT and the higher-ups forced me to let my best programmer go last year because he failed a drug test for weed.

Oops.

Well to balance out the anecdotes where I work we don't drug test. We don't drug test because almost no one would pass and everyone knows it. Oh I am in IT.

 

[Otis]

Eh. I appreciate your opinion Dr J which is why I want it legalized. It sucks that I would likely lose out on a job if all things being equal were I arrested for any pot charge.

I think we're all on the same page here, but risking your career is a very real reality to many people who live in areas where it's still treated like bank robbery.

Were I to get arrested for pot or dui , I'd lose my job. And my future job prospects would be diminished ... If that's laughable to you, I'd love to know the field you work in so I can work in that field as well.

I'm in IT. I've never been asked to disclose non felony charges. And I show up high to take my drug tests, just on the principal of the matter.

I'm in IT and the higher-ups forced me to let my best programmer go last year because he failed a drug test for weed.

Oops.

Well to balance out the anecdotes where I work we don't drug test. We don't drug test because almost no one would pass and everyone knows it. Oh I am in IT.

 

[NCCommish]

Eh. I appreciate your opinion Dr J which is why I want it legalized. It sucks that I would likely lose out on a job if all things being equal were I arrested for any pot charge.

I think we're all on the same page here, but risking your career is a very real reality to many people who live in areas where it's still treated like bank robbery.

Were I to get arrested for pot or dui , I'd lose my job. And my future job prospects would be diminished ... If that's laughable to you, I'd love to know the field you work in so I can work in that field as well.

I'm in IT. I've never been asked to disclose non felony charges. And I show up high to take my drug tests, just on the principal of the matter.

I'm in IT and the higher-ups forced me to let my best programmer go last year because he failed a drug test for weed.

Oops.

Well to balance out the anecdotes where I work we don't drug test. We don't drug test because almost no one would pass and everyone knows it. Oh I am in IT.

Personal anecdotes one way or the other aren't really all that meaningful or helpful I guess.

 

[James Daulton]

It really depends on where you are. Louisiana, there's a disciplinary action against a lawyer who was found in possession roughly every month or two. Sometimes extremely harsh penalties follow:

This does surprise me. I'm still willing to take the chance though.

You're in Maryland. I have a feeling things are different there.

Yeah, in 65 days it'll be decriminalized here. I've talked to my wife about having some sort of decriminalization day party but I doubt if it'll actually happen. The first day falls on a Wednesday so might be tough to get something going.

Was thinking another cornhole would be nice...

Let's get this thing scheduled. My wife and daughter will be out of town over Halloween so I vote for around then.

 

[fatguyinalittlecoat]

It really depends on where you are. Louisiana, there's a disciplinary action against a lawyer who was found in possession roughly every month or two. Sometimes extremely harsh penalties follow:

This does surprise me. I'm still willing to take the chance though.

You're in Maryland. I have a feeling things are different there.

Yeah, in 65 days it'll be decriminalized here. I've talked to my wife about having some sort of decriminalization day party but I doubt if it'll actually happen. The first day falls on a Wednesday so might be tough to get something going.

Was thinking another cornhole would be nice...

Let's get this thing scheduled. My wife and daughter will be out of town over Halloween so I vote for around then.

I'm out of town Halloween weekend. I have pot but nobody except my wife to celebrate with tonight. Having a party seems like a lot of work.

 

[James Daulton]

It really depends on where you are. Louisiana, there's a disciplinary action against a lawyer who was found in possession roughly every month or two. Sometimes extremely harsh penalties follow:

This does surprise me. I'm still willing to take the chance though.

You're in Maryland. I have a feeling things are different there.

Yeah, in 65 days it'll be decriminalized here. I've talked to my wife about having some sort of decriminalization day party but I doubt if it'll actually happen. The first day falls on a Wednesday so might be tough to get something going.

Was thinking another cornhole would be nice...

Let's get this thing scheduled. My wife and daughter will be out of town over Halloween so I vote for around then.

I'm out of town Halloween weekend. I have pot but nobody except my wife to celebrate with tonight. Having a party seems like a lot of work.

I'm flexible, doesn't have to be that weekend. I would however be pleased to have some to enjoy over Halloween...

 

[fatguyinalittlecoat]

Yeah, I'm definitely a fan of a Maryland weedhole, but, like, not at my house. Somebody figure out a place/time where we can have it.

 

[Slapdash]

Yeah, I'm definitely a fan of a Maryland weedhole, but, like, not at my house. Somebody figure out a place/time where we can have it.

I'll be in DC next weekend if anything is going on.

 

[tommyGunZ]

Set up the webcam and let's make this party bi-coastal.

 

[Jayrod]

I've always wanted to try pot, but never have.

 

[Ilov80s]

I've always wanted to try pot, but never have.

Go for it. It's great.

 

[Jayrod]

I've always wanted to try pot, but never have.

Go for it. It's great.

Once I'm in a place that its legal and have the time I'll give it a go.

 

[grateful zed]

I've always wanted to try pot, but never have.

Go for it. It's great.

Once I'm in a place that its legal and have the time I'll give it a go.

i had to dig, but i found an old pic from our 05 cornhole in, now leagal, colorado

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