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@tomecurran

Was told AJ McCarron will not accept his Senior Bowl invite. Standing on play last 4 yrs w Tide.
Terrible move, and I hope he reconsiders. Geno Smith admitted that blowing off the Senior Bowl was a huge mistake. Go to the game, play with the best of the best and show the scouts you have nothing to hide.
He's from Mobile and is a Rock Star there...it he would not be productive.
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@tomecurran

Was told AJ McCarron will not accept his Senior Bowl invite. Standing on play last 4 yrs w Tide.
Terrible move, and I hope he reconsiders. Geno Smith admitted that blowing off the Senior Bowl was a huge mistake. Go to the game, play with the best of the best and show the scouts you have nothing to hide.
He's from Mobile and is a Rock Star there...it he would not be productive.
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He certainly won't make a decision that will hurt his career...so take it as you want to.

 


@tomecurran

Was told AJ McCarron will not accept his Senior Bowl invite. Standing on play last 4 yrs w Tide.
Terrible move, and I hope he reconsiders. Geno Smith admitted that blowing off the Senior Bowl was a huge mistake. Go to the game, play with the best of the best and show the scouts you have nothing to hide.
He's from Mobile and is a Rock Star there...it he would not be productive.
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He certainly won't make a decision that will hurt his career...so take it as you want to.
Yeah, football players never do that.

 


@tomecurran

Was told AJ McCarron will not accept his Senior Bowl invite. Standing on play last 4 yrs w Tide.
Terrible move, and I hope he reconsiders. Geno Smith admitted that blowing off the Senior Bowl was a huge mistake. Go to the game, play with the best of the best and show the scouts you have nothing to hide.
He's from Mobile and is a Rock Star there...it he would not be productive.
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He certainly won't make a decision that will hurt his career...so take it as you want to.
:lmao:

 


@tomecurran

Was told AJ McCarron will not accept his Senior Bowl invite. Standing on play last 4 yrs w Tide.
Terrible move, and I hope he reconsiders. Geno Smith admitted that blowing off the Senior Bowl was a huge mistake. Go to the game, play with the best of the best and show the scouts you have nothing to hide.
He's from Mobile and is a Rock Star there...it he would not be productive.
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He certainly won't make a decision that will hurt his career...so take it as you want to.
:lmao:
Explain Mr College Football.

 


@tomecurran

Was told AJ McCarron will not accept his Senior Bowl invite. Standing on play last 4 yrs w Tide.
Terrible move, and I hope he reconsiders. Geno Smith admitted that blowing off the Senior Bowl was a huge mistake. Go to the game, play with the best of the best and show the scouts you have nothing to hide.
He's from Mobile and is a Rock Star there...it he would not be productive.
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He certainly won't make a decision that will hurt his career...so take it as you want to.
Yeah. Sure. Whatever. The Browns will still take him.

 


@tomecurran

Was told AJ McCarron will not accept his Senior Bowl invite. Standing on play last 4 yrs w Tide.
Terrible move, and I hope he reconsiders. Geno Smith admitted that blowing off the Senior Bowl was a huge mistake. Go to the game, play with the best of the best and show the scouts you have nothing to hide.
He's from Mobile and is a Rock Star there...it he would not be productive.
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He certainly won't make a decision that will hurt his career...so take it as you want to.
:lmao:
Explain Mr College Football.
Explain what? You said McCarron won't make a decision that will hurt his career. You act like he's perfect for one and that you control his mind as well. It's kind of wacko.

 
So they moved the kickoff up to try to get more touch-backs to prevent the big collisions on kickoff returns. That moved the coverage 5 yards closer. It seems teams are intentionally kicking it short, and I have seen more returns not get to the 20.

Bring a touch-back out to the 20 instead of the 25? I think that would make sense.

 
So they moved the kickoff up to try to get more touch-backs to prevent the big collisions on kickoff returns. That moved the coverage 5 yards closer. It seems teams are intentionally kicking it short, and I have seen more returns not get to the 20.

Bring a touch-back out to the 20 instead of the 25? I think that would make sense.
The touchback rate has gone from 15% to 35% since the rule change. Keen observation.

 
So they moved the kickoff up to try to get more touch-backs to prevent the big collisions on kickoff returns. That moved the coverage 5 yards closer. It seems teams are intentionally kicking it short, and I have seen more returns not get to the 20.

Bring a touch-back out to the 20 instead of the 25? I think that would make sense.
The touchback rate has gone from 15% to 35% since the rule change. Keen observation.
Thanks. :oldunsure:

 


@tomecurran

Was told AJ McCarron will not accept his Senior Bowl invite. Standing on play last 4 yrs w Tide.
Terrible move, and I hope he reconsiders. Geno Smith admitted that blowing off the Senior Bowl was a huge mistake. Go to the game, play with the best of the best and show the scouts you have nothing to hide.
He's from Mobile and is a Rock Star there...it he would not be productive.
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He certainly won't make a decision that will hurt his career...so take it as you want to.
:lmao:

Yeah, that never happens.

 
So chatter has begun that MSU is now, or should, be consider one of the national elite programs. It's an interesting thing to think about and perhaps true. The B1G reputation is probably the only thing that prevents many people from acknowledging them as such. Then again, they were 7-6 in 2012.

 
It's shocking how good the Big East/American has been in these BCS games. Think they have the 2nd most wins. And they still got dumped. Kind of a shame.

 
Just passed the South Carolina/Georgia border. Big sign that said "last one left in the state turn out the lights. We're headed to Florida" with South Carolina and Clemson logos.

We love our college football in the south.

 
So chatter has begun that MSU is now, or should, be consider one of the national elite programs. It's an interesting thing to think about and perhaps true. The B1G reputation is probably the only thing that prevents many people from acknowledging them as such. Then again, they were 7-6 in 2012.
2012 performance was primarily due to sub-par (awful) seasons from the QB/WR positions. This year started similarly, but Cook was finally moved into the starting QB position and the WR corps really picked it up after the ND game. Made all the difference in the world. I don't think enough can be said about Dantonio and his staff. They take a bunch of 1-3 star players and coach up a very solid team year after year. Doing things like sitting Bullough for the Rose Bowl for violating team rules is the backbone of his team first philosophy. Urban/Miles/Saban would have sat him out a series.

 
So chatter has begun that MSU is now, or should, be consider one of the national elite programs. It's an interesting thing to think about and perhaps true. The B1G reputation is probably the only thing that prevents many people from acknowledging them as such. Then again, they were 7-6 in 2012.
2012 performance was primarily due to sub-par (awful) seasons from the QB/WR positions. This year started similarly, but Cook was finally moved into the starting QB position and the WR corps really picked it up after the ND game. Made all the difference in the world. I don't think enough can be said about Dantonio and his staff. They take a bunch of 1-3 star players and coach up a very solid team year after year. Doing things like sitting Bullough for the Rose Bowl for violating team rules is the backbone of his team first philosophy. Urban/Miles/Saban would have sat him out a series.
The first thing I thought about when I heard this was the recruiting aspect. As you said, MSU/Dantonio make it with 1-3 and perhaps a handful of 4 star guys. Can we really acknowledge then as a national elite when they are still out recruited by in state Michigan and in conference OSU? How sustainable is the program, particularly an elite title, with out top recruits?
 
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So chatter has begun that MSU is now, or should, be consider one of the national elite programs. It's an interesting thing to think about and perhaps true. The B1G reputation is probably the only thing that prevents many people from acknowledging them as such. Then again, they were 7-6 in 2012.
2012 performance was primarily due to sub-par (awful) seasons from the QB/WR positions. This year started similarly, but Cook was finally moved into the starting QB position and the WR corps really picked it up after the ND game. Made all the difference in the world. I don't think enough can be said about Dantonio and his staff. They take a bunch of 1-3 star players and coach up a very solid team year after year. Doing things like sitting Bullough for the Rose Bowl for violating team rules is the backbone of his team first philosophy. Urban/Miles/Saban would have sat him out a series.
That's why I was (and still am) dying for Narduzzi to take over at Rutgers.

 
So chatter has begun that MSU is now, or should, be consider one of the national elite programs. It's an interesting thing to think about and perhaps true. The B1G reputation is probably the only thing that prevents many people from acknowledging them as such. Then again, they were 7-6 in 2012.
Cook looked dynomite and will be back next year. the ND game was his first real competition he faced, looks like he has a big time arm to me

Dantonio is building a nice program and was real close to winning the B1G title game in 2011 as well.

 
So chatter has begun that MSU is now, or should, be consider one of the national elite programs. It's an interesting thing to think about and perhaps true. The B1G reputation is probably the only thing that prevents many people from acknowledging them as such. Then again, they were 7-6 in 2012.
2012 performance was primarily due to sub-par (awful) seasons from the QB/WR positions. This year started similarly, but Cook was finally moved into the starting QB position and the WR corps really picked it up after the ND game. Made all the difference in the world. I don't think enough can be said about Dantonio and his staff. They take a bunch of 1-3 star players and coach up a very solid team year after year. Doing things like sitting Bullough for the Rose Bowl for violating team rules is the backbone of his team first philosophy. Urban/Miles/Saban would have sat him out a series.
The first thing I thought about when I heard this was the recruiting aspect. As you said, MSU/Dantonio make it with 1-3 and perhaps a handful of 4 star guys. Can we really acknowledge then as a national elite when they are still out recruited by in state Michigan and in conference OSU? How sustainable is the program, particularly an elite title, with out top recruits?
Top recruits arent everything, rumors and speculation around here is that there are 5 NFL players on that Defense.

CB Dennard should be a first rounder this year

 
So chatter has begun that MSU is now, or should, be consider one of the national elite programs. It's an interesting thing to think about and perhaps true. The B1G reputation is probably the only thing that prevents many people from acknowledging them as such. Then again, they were 7-6 in 2012.
They've had 3 eleven win seasons in the last 4. They don't get flashy recruiting classes, so they're never ranked highly at the beginning of a season. I think Dantonio is severely underestimated (despite his inability to speak in public ;) ) If done correctly, the days of conference perception are gone with the committee. Hopefully that moves focus from these stupid polls to resumes and accomplishments on the field going forward.

 
So chatter has begun that MSU is now, or should, be consider one of the national elite programs. It's an interesting thing to think about and perhaps true. The B1G reputation is probably the only thing that prevents many people from acknowledging them as such. Then again, they were 7-6 in 2012.
2012 performance was primarily due to sub-par (awful) seasons from the QB/WR positions. This year started similarly, but Cook was finally moved into the starting QB position and the WR corps really picked it up after the ND game. Made all the difference in the world. I don't think enough can be said about Dantonio and his staff. They take a bunch of 1-3 star players and coach up a very solid team year after year. Doing things like sitting Bullough for the Rose Bowl for violating team rules is the backbone of his team first philosophy. Urban/Miles/Saban would have sat him out a series.
That's why I was (and still am) dying for Narduzzi to take over at Rutgers.
Penn State should hire him.

 
So chatter has begun that MSU is now, or should, be consider one of the national elite programs. It's an interesting thing to think about and perhaps true. The B1G reputation is probably the only thing that prevents many people from acknowledging them as such. Then again, they were 7-6 in 2012.
2012 performance was primarily due to sub-par (awful) seasons from the QB/WR positions. This year started similarly, but Cook was finally moved into the starting QB position and the WR corps really picked it up after the ND game. Made all the difference in the world. I don't think enough can be said about Dantonio and his staff. They take a bunch of 1-3 star players and coach up a very solid team year after year. Doing things like sitting Bullough for the Rose Bowl for violating team rules is the backbone of his team first philosophy. Urban/Miles/Saban would have sat him out a series.
That's why I was (and still am) dying for Narduzzi to take over at Rutgers.
Penn State should hire him.
He'd be near the top of my list if I were PSU for sure.

 
So chatter has begun that MSU is now, or should, be consider one of the national elite programs. It's an interesting thing to think about and perhaps true. The B1G reputation is probably the only thing that prevents many people from acknowledging them as such. Then again, they were 7-6 in 2012.
2012 performance was primarily due to sub-par (awful) seasons from the QB/WR positions. This year started similarly, but Cook was finally moved into the starting QB position and the WR corps really picked it up after the ND game. Made all the difference in the world. I don't think enough can be said about Dantonio and his staff. They take a bunch of 1-3 star players and coach up a very solid team year after year. Doing things like sitting Bullough for the Rose Bowl for violating team rules is the backbone of his team first philosophy. Urban/Miles/Saban would have sat him out a series.
That's why I was (and still am) dying for Narduzzi to take over at Rutgers.
Penn State should hire him.
Dantonio and his staff just all got big raises and said they are Spartans for life.

 
So chatter has begun that MSU is now, or should, be consider one of the national elite programs. It's an interesting thing to think about and perhaps true. The B1G reputation is probably the only thing that prevents many people from acknowledging them as such. Then again, they were 7-6 in 2012.
2012 performance was primarily due to sub-par (awful) seasons from the QB/WR positions. This year started similarly, but Cook was finally moved into the starting QB position and the WR corps really picked it up after the ND game. Made all the difference in the world. I don't think enough can be said about Dantonio and his staff. They take a bunch of 1-3 star players and coach up a very solid team year after year. Doing things like sitting Bullough for the Rose Bowl for violating team rules is the backbone of his team first philosophy. Urban/Miles/Saban would have sat him out a series.
That's why I was (and still am) dying for Narduzzi to take over at Rutgers.
Penn State should hire him.
Dantonio and his staff just all got big raises and said they are Spartans for life.
There is very little loyalty when bags of money are floating around.
 
So chatter has begun that MSU is now, or should, be consider one of the national elite programs. It's an interesting thing to think about and perhaps true. The B1G reputation is probably the only thing that prevents many people from acknowledging them as such. Then again, they were 7-6 in 2012.
2012 performance was primarily due to sub-par (awful) seasons from the QB/WR positions. This year started similarly, but Cook was finally moved into the starting QB position and the WR corps really picked it up after the ND game. Made all the difference in the world. I don't think enough can be said about Dantonio and his staff. They take a bunch of 1-3 star players and coach up a very solid team year after year. Doing things like sitting Bullough for the Rose Bowl for violating team rules is the backbone of his team first philosophy. Urban/Miles/Saban would have sat him out a series.
That's why I was (and still am) dying for Narduzzi to take over at Rutgers.
Penn State should hire him.
Dantonio and his staff just all got big raises and said they are Spartans for life.
There's no way Narduzzi is going to be a DC for life. He'll go as soon as he gets a good offer. And he'll get that offer by next offseason at the latest.

 
So chatter has begun that MSU is now, or should, be consider one of the national elite programs. It's an interesting thing to think about and perhaps true. The B1G reputation is probably the only thing that prevents many people from acknowledging them as such. Then again, they were 7-6 in 2012.
2012 performance was primarily due to sub-par (awful) seasons from the QB/WR positions. This year started similarly, but Cook was finally moved into the starting QB position and the WR corps really picked it up after the ND game. Made all the difference in the world. I don't think enough can be said about Dantonio and his staff. They take a bunch of 1-3 star players and coach up a very solid team year after year. Doing things like sitting Bullough for the Rose Bowl for violating team rules is the backbone of his team first philosophy. Urban/Miles/Saban would have sat him out a series.
The first thing I thought about when I heard this was the recruiting aspect. As you said, MSU/Dantonio make it with 1-3 and perhaps a handful of 4 star guys. Can we really acknowledge then as a national elite when they are still out recruited by in state Michigan and in conference OSU? How sustainable is the program, particularly an elite title, with out top recruits?
MSU doesn't spend the kind of money on recruiting that UM and OSU do. Additionally, Dantonio has said in the past that many times, those 4-5 star guys are not team guys and don't fit his system. I'm sure he'd change that tune a little if he got commits from some of them, but it sounds good.

 
So chatter has begun that MSU is now, or should, be consider one of the national elite programs. It's an interesting thing to think about and perhaps true. The B1G reputation is probably the only thing that prevents many people from acknowledging them as such. Then again, they were 7-6 in 2012.
2012 performance was primarily due to sub-par (awful) seasons from the QB/WR positions. This year started similarly, but Cook was finally moved into the starting QB position and the WR corps really picked it up after the ND game. Made all the difference in the world. I don't think enough can be said about Dantonio and his staff. They take a bunch of 1-3 star players and coach up a very solid team year after year. Doing things like sitting Bullough for the Rose Bowl for violating team rules is the backbone of his team first philosophy. Urban/Miles/Saban would have sat him out a series.
That's why I was (and still am) dying for Narduzzi to take over at Rutgers.
Penn State should hire him.
Dantonio and his staff just all got big raises and said they are Spartans for life.
There's no way Narduzzi is going to be a DC for life. He'll go as soon as he gets a good offer. And he'll get that offer by next offseason at the latest.
I hope you're wrong, but I'm sure you're not. They lost Treadwell (OC) a few years ago (to my Alma Mater no less), and now he's out of a job, so they know it's a crap shoot. Staying with a great program has it's benefits too.

 
So chatter has begun that MSU is now, or should, be consider one of the national elite programs. It's an interesting thing to think about and perhaps true. The B1G reputation is probably the only thing that prevents many people from acknowledging them as such. Then again, they were 7-6 in 2012.
2012 performance was primarily due to sub-par (awful) seasons from the QB/WR positions. This year started similarly, but Cook was finally moved into the starting QB position and the WR corps really picked it up after the ND game. Made all the difference in the world. I don't think enough can be said about Dantonio and his staff. They take a bunch of 1-3 star players and coach up a very solid team year after year. Doing things like sitting Bullough for the Rose Bowl for violating team rules is the backbone of his team first philosophy. Urban/Miles/Saban would have sat him out a series.
The first thing I thought about when I heard this was the recruiting aspect. As you said, MSU/Dantonio make it with 1-3 and perhaps a handful of 4 star guys. Can we really acknowledge then as a national elite when they are still out recruited by in state Michigan and in conference OSU? How sustainable is the program, particularly an elite title, with out top recruits?
Gotta define national elite, I guess? There's a bunch of schools that seemingly carry that label but haven't been title-relevant in a (comparatively) long time. I think even without getting 5* talent they could compete for championships every so often based on this development pattern - high 3* kids coached up, with a couple studs thrown in once in a while.

I followed Shilique Calhoun's recruitment pretty heavily. He was a mid 3* guy and a nice prospect, but certainly wasn't expected to be the player he is. In fact, I'm pretty sure he would have ended up at Rutgers if he didn't have a completely insane blow up on the court during a basketball game when Schiano was in attendance late in his recruitment. But good for him for choosing MSU because he likely wouldn't be half the player he is today.

 
Penn State is too proud to go after a COLLEGE coordinator, and for that I am very happy. I think Narduzzi would be a great fit there.

 
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Penn State is too proud to go after a coordinator, and for that I am very happy. I think Narduzzi would be a great fit there.
Uhhh...Bill O'Brien?
Uhhh...a bit of a different situation this time?

edit: And not to mention, there's a big difference between going after an NFL coordinator and an NCAA coordinator. But just in case anyone else has trouble understanding that, I made the change.

 
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Gotta define national elite, I guess? There's a bunch of schools that seemingly carry that label but haven't been title-relevant in a (comparatively) long time. I think even without getting 5* talent they could compete for championships every so often based on this development pattern - high 3* kids coached up, with a couple studs thrown in once in a while.

I followed Shilique Calhoun's recruitment pretty heavily. He was a mid 3* guy and a nice prospect, but certainly wasn't expected to be the player he is. In fact, I'm pretty sure he would have ended up at Rutgers if he didn't have a completely insane blow up on the court during a basketball game when Schiano was in attendance late in his recruitment. But good for him for choosing MSU because he likely wouldn't be half the player he is today.
That's a good point. I'm not sure what the talking heads consider elite.
 
So chatter has begun that MSU is now, or should, be consider one of the national elite programs. It's an interesting thing to think about and perhaps true. The B1G reputation is probably the only thing that prevents many people from acknowledging them as such. Then again, they were 7-6 in 2012.
2012 performance was primarily due to sub-par (awful) seasons from the QB/WR positions. This year started similarly, but Cook was finally moved into the starting QB position and the WR corps really picked it up after the ND game. Made all the difference in the world. I don't think enough can be said about Dantonio and his staff. They take a bunch of 1-3 star players and coach up a very solid team year after year. Doing things like sitting Bullough for the Rose Bowl for violating team rules is the backbone of his team first philosophy. Urban/Miles/Saban would have sat him out a series.
:goodposting:

Very proud of Coach D and the Spartans. Very fitting (almost story-book) ending to the Rose Bowl, 4th and 1 Defensive stop by a player in his first start. What a fantastic game by Kyler Elsworth.

Proud State alum. GO GREEN.

 
Penn State is too proud to go after a coordinator, and for that I am very happy. I think Narduzzi would be a great fit there.
Uhhh...Bill O'Brien?
Uhhh...a bit of a different situation this time?

edit: And not to mention, there's a big difference between going after an NFL coordinator and an NCAA coordinator. But just in case anyone else has trouble understanding that, I made the change.
Maybe a little, but I think PSU is still going to have difficulty hiring away a top head coach. They still have serious restrictions for 2 more years. And the ones they've been under are going to really start to have an effect. And they are going into a division with Ohio State, Michigan State, and Michigan.

I'll be quite surprised if Penn State can compete for the division any time in the next 4 years.

So what established coach wants to jump into that?

 
Penn State is too proud to go after a coordinator, and for that I am very happy. I think Narduzzi would be a great fit there.
Uhhh...Bill O'Brien?
Uhhh...a bit of a different situation this time?

edit: And not to mention, there's a big difference between going after an NFL coordinator and an NCAA coordinator. But just in case anyone else has trouble understanding that, I made the change.
Maybe a little, but I think PSU is still going to have difficulty hiring away a top head coach. They still have serious restrictions for 2 more years. And the ones they've been under are going to really start to have an effect. And they are going into a division with Ohio State, Michigan State, and Michigan.

I'll be quite surprised if Penn State can compete for the division any time in the next 4 years.

So what established coach wants to jump into that?
Agree, but that doesn't mean they will be realistic in who they go after. Look at that big board someone posted in the PSU thread...it's filled with NFL guys and upper level BCS head coaches. It takes a lot of names to chew through before you get down to a coordinator like Narduzzi. Doesn't mean it can't happen...O'Brien was something like the 6th choice when he was hired, but again, a very different situation back then.

One thing they can be realistic about is what they pay this guy. They have a lot of money to work with and if they backed up the truck for someone like Franklin, it might sway him, who knows.

 
Big 12 has to be taking the biggest hit going into next year. Assuming OU gets trucked tonight that leaves just OSU as a power team left to show anything in the Cotton bowl vs. Missou. That one is probably a coinflip.

The playoff system is going to really punish teams not ranked high to start the year (Roughly top 12 is the estimate) that do not go undefeated. At this point it will be a stretch to see more than one Big12 team in there to start off 2013.

Even Texas who just gets in the preseason bowl usually because of their name might even get left off this time around.

I think ultimately the members start screaming for a 12 team two division non round-robin by the end of '14. It's just a matter of which two teams they can pull in.

 
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@tomecurran

Was told AJ McCarron will not accept his Senior Bowl invite. Standing on play last 4 yrs w Tide.
Terrible move, and I hope he reconsiders. Geno Smith admitted that blowing off the Senior Bowl was a huge mistake. Go to the game, play with the best of the best and show the scouts you have nothing to hide.
He's from Mobile and is a Rock Star there...it he would not be productive.
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He certainly won't make a decision that will hurt his career...so take it as you want to.
:lmao:
Explain Mr College Football.
Explain what? You said McCarron won't make a decision that will hurt his career. You act like he's perfect for one and that you control his mind as well. It's kind of wacko.
AJ is not perfect...and I have no idea how his career will go....but I am familiar with the level of support and guidance he receives. Saban built a room for his players to practice interviewing....you think his adopted son is going to half ### his prep?

 


@tomecurran

Was told AJ McCarron will not accept his Senior Bowl invite. Standing on play last 4 yrs w Tide.
Terrible move, and I hope he reconsiders. Geno Smith admitted that blowing off the Senior Bowl was a huge mistake. Go to the game, play with the best of the best and show the scouts you have nothing to hide.
He's from Mobile and is a Rock Star there...it he would not be productive.
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He certainly won't make a decision that will hurt his career...so take it as you want to.
:lmao:
Explain Mr College Football.
Explain what? You said McCarron won't make a decision that will hurt his career. You act like he's perfect for one and that you control his mind as well. It's kind of wacko.
AJ is not perfect...and I have no idea how his career will go....but I am familiar with the level of support and guidance he receives. Saban built a room for his players to practice interviewing....you think his adopted son is going to half ### his prep?
He better makes sure he wears a long sleeve turtle neck to any interview. I don't think he'd want any execs to see those tattoos.

 
Big 12 has to be taking the biggest hit going into next year. Assuming OU gets trucked tonight that leaves just OSU as a power team left to show anything in the Cotton bowl vs. Missou. That one is probably a coinflip.

The playoff system is going to really punish teams not ranked high to start the year (Roughly top 12 is the estimate) that do not go undefeated. At this point it will be a stretch to see more than one Big12 team in there to start off 2013.

Even Texas who just gets in the preseason bowl usually because of their name might even get left off this time around.

I think ultimately the members start screaming for a 12 team two division non round-robin by the end of '14. It's just a matter of which two teams they can pull in.
Where'd you find this? I've heard nothing official of the criteria the committee is going to use and all the unofficial rumors suggest they are moving away from the polls. They may have a small influence but resume is said to be a significant factor.

 
Penn State is too proud to go after a coordinator, and for that I am very happy. I think Narduzzi would be a great fit there.
Uhhh...Bill O'Brien?
Uhhh...a bit of a different situation this time?

edit: And not to mention, there's a big difference between going after an NFL coordinator and an NCAA coordinator. But just in case anyone else has trouble understanding that, I made the change.
Maybe a little, but I think PSU is still going to have difficulty hiring away a top head coach. They still have serious restrictions for 2 more years. And the ones they've been under are going to really start to have an effect. And they are going into a division with Ohio State, Michigan State, and Michigan.

I'll be quite surprised if Penn State can compete for the division any time in the next 4 years.

So what established coach wants to jump into that?
You realize they will only be down 5 this coming year and back to full strength scholarship-wise in 2015?

 


@tomecurran

Was told AJ McCarron will not accept his Senior Bowl invite. Standing on play last 4 yrs w Tide.
Terrible move, and I hope he reconsiders. Geno Smith admitted that blowing off the Senior Bowl was a huge mistake. Go to the game, play with the best of the best and show the scouts you have nothing to hide.
He's from Mobile and is a Rock Star there...it he would not be productive.
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He certainly won't make a decision that will hurt his career...so take it as you want to.
:lmao:
Explain Mr College Football.
Explain what? You said McCarron won't make a decision that will hurt his career. You act like he's perfect for one and that you control his mind as well. It's kind of wacko.
AJ is not perfect...and I have no idea how his career will go....but I am familiar with the level of support and guidance he receives. Saban built a room for his players to practice interviewing....you think his adopted son is going to half ### his prep?
He better makes sure he wears a long sleeve turtle neck to any interview. I don't think he'd want any execs to see those tattoos.
I won't argue with that...that tattoo 'artist' may be wearing cement shoes at this point though.

 
Big 12 has to be taking the biggest hit going into next year. Assuming OU gets trucked tonight that leaves just OSU as a power team left to show anything in the Cotton bowl vs. Missou. That one is probably a coinflip.

The playoff system is going to really punish teams not ranked high to start the year (Roughly top 12 is the estimate) that do not go undefeated. At this point it will be a stretch to see more than one Big12 team in there to start off 2013.

Even Texas who just gets in the preseason bowl usually because of their name might even get left off this time around.

I think ultimately the members start screaming for a 12 team two division non round-robin by the end of '14. It's just a matter of which two teams they can pull in.
Where'd you find this? I've heard nothing official of the criteria the committee is going to use and all the unofficial rumors suggest they are moving away from the polls. They may have a small influence but resume is said to be a significant factor.
There's nothing official about the system, but if the committee is really there to sift between the 1-loss teams (And yes, they are) they have to go with some sort of criteria of judging which loss was "worst".

I think it would be hard for them to find a way to squeeze in a 1-loss team whose consensus is they are well ahead of their peers.

To this end the Big 12 is at a huge disadvantage with no conf. champ game. No way to put a last bullet point on a marginal-ish resume.

 
Big 12 has to be taking the biggest hit going into next year. Assuming OU gets trucked tonight that leaves just OSU as a power team left to show anything in the Cotton bowl vs. Missou. That one is probably a coinflip.

The playoff system is going to really punish teams not ranked high to start the year (Roughly top 12 is the estimate) that do not go undefeated. At this point it will be a stretch to see more than one Big12 team in there to start off 2013.

Even Texas who just gets in the preseason bowl usually because of their name might even get left off this time around.

I think ultimately the members start screaming for a 12 team two division non round-robin by the end of '14. It's just a matter of which two teams they can pull in.
Where'd you find this? I've heard nothing official of the criteria the committee is going to use and all the unofficial rumors suggest they are moving away from the polls. They may have a small influence but resume is said to be a significant factor.
There's nothing official about the system, but if the committee is really there to sift between the 1-loss teams (And yes, they are) they have to go with some sort of criteria of judging which loss was "worst".

I think it would be hard for them to find a way to squeeze in a 1-loss team whose consensus is they are well ahead of their peers.

To this end the Big 12 is at a huge disadvantage with no conf. champ game. No way to put a last bullet point on a marginal-ish resume.
Actually...I was more interested with the first part of your comment that being ranked highly at the beginning of the year would be essential.

 
Big 12 has to be taking the biggest hit going into next year. Assuming OU gets trucked tonight that leaves just OSU as a power team left to show anything in the Cotton bowl vs. Missou. That one is probably a coinflip.

The playoff system is going to really punish teams not ranked high to start the year (Roughly top 12 is the estimate) that do not go undefeated. At this point it will be a stretch to see more than one Big12 team in there to start off 2013.

Even Texas who just gets in the preseason bowl usually because of their name might even get left off this time around.

I think ultimately the members start screaming for a 12 team two division non round-robin by the end of '14. It's just a matter of which two teams they can pull in.
Where'd you find this? I've heard nothing official of the criteria the committee is going to use and all the unofficial rumors suggest they are moving away from the polls. They may have a small influence but resume is said to be a significant factor.
There's nothing official about the system, but if the committee is really there to sift between the 1-loss teams (And yes, they are) they have to go with some sort of criteria of judging which loss was "worst".

I think it would be hard for them to find a way to squeeze in a 1-loss team whose consensus is they are well ahead of their peers.

To this end the Big 12 is at a huge disadvantage with no conf. champ game. No way to put a last bullet point on a marginal-ish resume.
Actually...I was more interested with the first part of your comment that being ranked highly at the beginning of the year would be essential.
In general, if you look at how everyone frames their seasons in terms of quality wins if you don't have teams ranked high early then your wins are no longer of quality.

i.e. OU is probably looking at playing an unranked Texas squad now in what would typically have been an automatic 5-15 ranked team in years past. Baylor may lose their coach and could fall off a cliff. You just don't have the firepower early in the season to wow anyone when you have so few highly ranked teams.

 
Really the committee is going to a black box, who knows what they base decisions on?
We already know they will be using records, SOS, head to head results and common opponents. They are also going to consider "key injuries" and we know they are going to publish their own top 25 periodically through the year but individual ballots would never be published.

 
Really the committee is going to a black box, who knows what they base decisions on?
We already know they will be using records, SOS, head to head results and common opponents. They are also going to consider "key injuries" and we know they are going to publish their own top 25 periodically through the year but individual ballots would never be published.
Consider key injuries? What the heck does that mean?

 
Big 12 has to be taking the biggest hit going into next year. Assuming OU gets trucked tonight that leaves just OSU as a power team left to show anything in the Cotton bowl vs. Missou. That one is probably a coinflip.

The playoff system is going to really punish teams not ranked high to start the year (Roughly top 12 is the estimate) that do not go undefeated. At this point it will be a stretch to see more than one Big12 team in there to start off 2013.

Even Texas who just gets in the preseason bowl usually because of their name might even get left off this time around.

I think ultimately the members start screaming for a 12 team two division non round-robin by the end of '14. It's just a matter of which two teams they can pull in.
Where'd you find this? I've heard nothing official of the criteria the committee is going to use and all the unofficial rumors suggest they are moving away from the polls. They may have a small influence but resume is said to be a significant factor.
There's nothing official about the system, but if the committee is really there to sift between the 1-loss teams (And yes, they are) they have to go with some sort of criteria of judging which loss was "worst".

I think it would be hard for them to find a way to squeeze in a 1-loss team whose consensus is they are well ahead of their peers.

To this end the Big 12 is at a huge disadvantage with no conf. champ game. No way to put a last bullet point on a marginal-ish resume.
Actually...I was more interested with the first part of your comment that being ranked highly at the beginning of the year would be essential.
In general, if you look at how everyone frames their seasons in terms of quality wins if you don't have teams ranked high early then your wins are no longer of quality.

i.e. OU is probably looking at playing an unranked Texas squad now in what would typically have been an automatic 5-15 ranked team in years past. Baylor may lose their coach and could fall off a cliff. You just don't have the firepower early in the season to wow anyone when you have so few highly ranked teams.
Well, that's how it works now, right? Today, pollsters say "Alabama beat Michigan when they were ranked #6 in the country" and they completely ignore the fact that Michigan was severely over ranked in the preseason. To them, that's still some sort of accomplishment. Turns out, at the end of the season, that win isn't all that impressive because Michigan ended up sucking. I don't get the sense that this committee is going to function that way. Of course, I could be wrong.

 
Slapdash said:
The Commish said:
Slapdash said:
Really the committee is going to a black box, who knows what they base decisions on?
We already know they will be using records, SOS, head to head results and common opponents. They are also going to consider "key injuries" and we know they are going to publish their own top 25 periodically through the year but individual ballots would never be published.
Consider key injuries? What the heck does that mean?
Dunno....I'm guessing it's along the lines of "well, player X accounted for 99% of the offense for his team and now he's gone. How do we think that will affect the team?" If it happens early enough in the season, the answer will appear on the field. If it happens near the end, they might be looking at a situation where they are trying to project impact, which I'm not a big fan of personally. I suspect it will probably be a factor in discussions around the non playoff bowls they are choosing more than anything.

 
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