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[MAC_32]

I usually like the undercard bowls but a lot of these matchups are either really boring or will be total bloodbaths.

About the only non-BCS matchups I think will be interesting will be ASU/TT and WISC/SoCarolina.

Strongly disagree.

I'm not looking forward to the title game as I think it's going to be a woodshed beating, but there are a lot of games (besides BG) I'm looking forward to

The 2 you mentioned

Fresno vs. USC

BYU vs. Washington

Miami vs. Louisville

Oregon vs Texas

Va Tech vs UCLA

Have to say I'm glad the New Year's Eve night game looks bad this year though. And I'm glad the BCS shook out the way it did in the others games too. Looking forward to all of them...except the title game.

 

[Premier]

With the time off, who will be helped more FSU or Auburn?

I'm thinking FSU. It will give them time to plan around the Auburn running attack. I'm not sure how much it will help. BC is the only team with a solid running attack FSU has faced all year and they put up 200 on the ground. Auburn just has so much. Momentum right now I think they'd win if the game was played this weekend. Given the break, I think that momentum fades.

Then again, Auburn could use the time to come up with some looks they haven't shown all year. Particularly in the passing game.

My sense is that more time to prepare usually helps the more "intellectual" coaches- meaning, from all appearances, Malzahn.

Yea Jimbo is the only coach on staff. He's going to do all the defensive game planning too.

 

[MAC_32]

I usually like the undercard bowls but a lot of these matchups are either really boring or will be total bloodbaths.

No kidding. Oregon vs. Texas? LSU vs. Iowa? Ugh.

I've seen very little of Virginia Tech this year- so I have no idea how they matchup against UCLA. I do think the Fresno State vs. USC game is intriguing.

Barr and Jack are going to make Thomas look stupid. Over and over again. Curious how Hundley does though. And Oregon/Texas should be fun for a while. Hoping the real Mariota shows up after halftime though.

 

[FDAS]

With the time off, who will be helped more FSU or Auburn?

I'm thinking FSU. It will give them time to plan around the Auburn running attack. I'm not sure how much it will help. BC is the only team with a solid running attack FSU has faced all year and they put up 200 on the ground. Auburn just has so much. Momentum right now I think they'd win if the game was played this weekend. Given the break, I think that momentum fades.

Then again, Auburn could use the time to come up with some looks they haven't shown all year. Particularly in the passing game.

My sense is that more time to prepare usually helps the more "intellectual" coaches- meaning, from all appearances, Malzahn.

Yea Jimbo is the only coach on staff. He's going to do all the defensive game planning too.

This is great news for AU. FSU definitely screwed with Jimbo as D coordinator. PRINT THE SHIRTS!

 

[timschochet]

I usually like the undercard bowls but a lot of these matchups are either really boring or will be total bloodbaths.

No kidding. Oregon vs. Texas? LSU vs. Iowa? Ugh.

I've seen very little of Virginia Tech this year- so I have no idea how they matchup against UCLA. I do think the Fresno State vs. USC game is intriguing.

Barr and Jack are going to make Thomas look stupid. Over and over again. Curious how Hundley does though. And Oregon/Texas should be fun for a while. Hoping the real Mariota shows up after halftime though.

At the beginning of the year I would have loved watching Texas vs. Oregon. If the Texas that beat Oklahoma shows up, that will be a great game. But the Texas that played Saturday against Baylor will not do well.

 

[MAC_32]

I usually like the undercard bowls but a lot of these matchups are either really boring or will be total bloodbaths.

No kidding. Oregon vs. Texas? LSU vs. Iowa? Ugh.

I've seen very little of Virginia Tech this year- so I have no idea how they matchup against UCLA. I do think the Fresno State vs. USC game is intriguing.

Barr and Jack are going to make Thomas look stupid. Over and over again. Curious how Hundley does though. And Oregon/Texas should be fun for a while. Hoping the real Mariota shows up after halftime though.

At the beginning of the year I would have loved watching Texas vs. Oregon. If the Texas that beat Oklahoma shows up, that will be a great game. But the Texas that played Saturday against Baylor will not do well.

I think Texas shows up and Oregon doesn't, pissed they're in a December bowl game instead of a BCS game. I then think Mariota goes nuts in the 2nd half.

Maybe my expectations are just too high.

 

[jurb26]

With the time off, who will be helped more FSU or Auburn?

I'm thinking FSU. It will give them time to plan around the Auburn running attack. I'm not sure how much it will help. BC is the only team with a solid running attack FSU has faced all year and they put up 200 on the ground. Auburn just has so much. Momentum right now I think they'd win if the game was played this weekend. Given the break, I think that momentum fades.

Then again, Auburn could use the time to come up with some looks they haven't shown all year. Particularly in the passing game.

I think it gives both teams the opportunity to lose their edge. I'm not crazy about Florida State's coaching and this spot may be too big for Auburn right now. Slow starter, definitely in the cards.If this were purely matchup based, Florida State could hang 50 on them at half speed. Auburn's defense is horrendous. Since Auburn is so one dimensional offensively I think they can be contained by Florida State. They're better vs. the pass than the run, but I think their numbers are skewed because the ACC is just that bad at trying to pass the ball. Take away Mason, make Marshall beat them. He'll make some plays, but he'll need an A+ performance to keep them within striking distance if Mason is contained. Defensively for Florida State, keep is simple, just go man-to-man and bring the safety up except obvious passing downs. Make Marshall win with his arm. If he proves it and Auburn is hanging around at half, adjust accordingly.

Not disagreeing with you, but playing man coverage vs. Coates would scare the crap out of me. The guy has just as much big play ability as anyone in the country. Marshall however has shown inconsistent at best when delivering the ball. I think Auburn hits a few big plays in the passing game due to what you're saying and adding a few wrinkles over the break.

 

[Guest]

Some lines:

Michigan State +2 Stanford

Oklahoma +14 Alabama

Clemson +3 Ohio State

Auburn +8 Florida State

Alabama now -17

Stanford -3.5

Shark move, get Stanford -2 + Sparty at +4 (if it gets there). I'm sure most will be bored with this game, but I anxiously await the bloodbath.

By the way, anyone have a clue where the BW3 Bowl is even played?

az

Was going to road trip with friends who have a house in Mesa if Nebraska would have gotten the BWW bid.

 

[MAC_32]

With the time off, who will be helped more FSU or Auburn?

I'm thinking FSU. It will give them time to plan around the Auburn running attack. I'm not sure how much it will help. BC is the only team with a solid running attack FSU has faced all year and they put up 200 on the ground. Auburn just has so much. Momentum right now I think they'd win if the game was played this weekend. Given the break, I think that momentum fades.

Then again, Auburn could use the time to come up with some looks they haven't shown all year. Particularly in the passing game.

I think it gives both teams the opportunity to lose their edge. I'm not crazy about Florida State's coaching and this spot may be too big for Auburn right now. Slow starter, definitely in the cards.If this were purely matchup based, Florida State could hang 50 on them at half speed. Auburn's defense is horrendous. Since Auburn is so one dimensional offensively I think they can be contained by Florida State. They're better vs. the pass than the run, but I think their numbers are skewed because the ACC is just that bad at trying to pass the ball. Take away Mason, make Marshall beat them. He'll make some plays, but he'll need an A+ performance to keep them within striking distance if Mason is contained. Defensively for Florida State, keep is simple, just go man-to-man and bring the safety up except obvious passing downs. Make Marshall win with his arm. If he proves it and Auburn is hanging around at half, adjust accordingly.

Not disagreeing with you, but playing man coverage vs. Coates would scare the crap out of me. The guy has just as much big play ability as anyone in the country. Marshall however has shown inconsistent at best when delivering the ball. I think Auburn hits a few big plays in the passing game due to what you're saying and adding a few wrinkles over the break.

I think approaching the game knowing Coates is probably going to make a couple of big plays would be fine by me. He'll need a half dozen or more to make a difference though and given Marshall's arm I don't see that happening. Let him go 6/120/1 knowing the trade off will be a less effective run game.

 

[The Commish]

O/U on the number of times "they didn't want to be here" or something similar as the excuse for several losses this bowl season?? I'd like the list of teams prior to making my bowl pick'em selections....TIA.

 

[gump]

With the time off, who will be helped more FSU or Auburn?

I'm thinking FSU. It will give them time to plan around the Auburn running attack. I'm not sure how much it will help. BC is the only team with a solid running attack FSU has faced all year and they put up 200 on the ground. Auburn just has so much. Momentum right now I think they'd win if the game was played this weekend. Given the break, I think that momentum fades.

Then again, Auburn could use the time to come up with some looks they haven't shown all year. Particularly in the passing game.

My sense is that more time to prepare usually helps the more "intellectual" coaches- meaning, from all appearances, Malzahn.

Yea Jimbo is the only coach on staff. He's going to do all the defensive game planning too.

I wonder how much Pruitt and Sunseri will talk to Saban.

 

[jurb26]

O/U on the number of times "they didn't want to be here" or something similar as the excuse for several losses this bowl season?? I'd like the list of teams prior to making my bowl pick'em selections....TIA.

Oregon and Missouri probably top the list. Both teams who probably feel they should be in BCS Bowls.

 

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So is Oklahoma going to get the 2013 "B###h of the Bowls" award by getting their doors blown off by the highest margin?

 

[JaxBill]

O/U on the number of times "they didn't want to be here" or something similar as the excuse for several losses this bowl season?? I'd like the list of teams prior to making my bowl pick'em selections....TIA.

Oregon and Missouri probably top the list. Both teams who probably feel they should be in BCS Bowls.

Not sure that I'd include Mizzou. Not sure what expectations on campus were before season but I don't think they expected to win the East and go to the Cotton Bowl.

 

[timschochet]

So is Oklahoma going to get the 2013 "B###h of the Bowls" award by getting their doors blown off by the highest margin?

This is one game I'm actually looking forward to. I think Oklahoma is one of the few teams in the nation that actually has the talent to match up against Alabama- though they certainly haven't played that way sometimes. But they can.

Also, I keep thinking about the last time Alabama was in a bowl game that they did not want to be in- wasn't that against Utah?

 

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Also, I keep thinking about the last time Alabama was in a bowl game that they did not want to be in- wasn't that against Utah?

Yes.. and it's an apples to apples comparison so we should definitely run with that.

 

[Keerock]

If the BCS/bowls were smart... they would have paired up Alabama and Texas in some bowl somewhere.

 

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If the BCS/bowls were smart... they would have paired up Alabama and Texas in some bowl somewhere.

The signs in the stands would have been priceless. Watching Texans luring Bammers into brawls with Saban cracks would have been worth the price of admission, alone.

 

[MAC_32]

O/U on the number of times "they didn't want to be here" or something similar as the excuse for several losses this bowl season?? I'd like the list of teams prior to making my bowl pick'em selections....TIA.

Oregon and Missouri probably top the list. Both teams who probably feel they should be in BCS Bowls.

I disagree on Mizzou, 6 weeks ago they'd have been ecstatic to be in the Cotton. They have some time to lick their wounds and get back at it. Same narrative for Oklahoma State.

Bama could go either way, but since Saban has already lost as a huge favorite after falling short of the title game I have to think he won't let it happen again...right?

I don't think either Nebraska nor Georgia want to be in Jacksonville, no edge to be had there.

LSU will probably take Iowa lightly. Texas A&M vs. Duke too.

Northern Illinois has to be deflated, they don't get much time to recover, and Utah State is a pretty damn good team. That, and this version of Northern Illinois isn't as good as last year's version anyway.

Ohio U quit on the season when they lose to Central Michigan.

That's all I have on first glance...

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

I usually like the undercard bowls but a lot of these matchups are either really boring or will be total bloodbaths.

No kidding. Oregon vs. Texas? LSU vs. Iowa? Ugh.

I've seen very little of Virginia Tech this year- so I have no idea how they matchup against UCLA. I do think the Fresno State vs. USC game is intriguing.

Very good defense. Terrible offense

 

[JaxBill]

I usually like the undercard bowls but a lot of these matchups are either really boring or will be total bloodbaths.

About the only non-BCS matchups I think will be interesting will be ASU/TT and WISC/SoCarolina.

Strongly disagree.

I'm not looking forward to the title game as I think it's going to be a woodshed beating, but there are a lot of games (besides BG) I'm looking forward to

The 2 you mentioned

Fresno vs. USC

BYU vs. Washington

Miami vs. Louisville

Oregon vs Texas

Va Tech vs UCLA

Have to say I'm glad the New Year's Eve night game looks bad this year though. And I'm glad the BCS shook out the way it did in the others games too. Looking forward to all of them...except the title game.

Not sure how USC is going to react going to Las Vegas to play a team they play in their 2014 opener and having the OC coach.

Washington is another team with a coaching change and BYU will try to run all over them.

OK, Miami-Lville might be decent if for no other reason than to see teddy B play against a fast defense.

Oregon-texas has bloodbath written all over it if the Ducks show up.

VT is mediocre with a bad QB, assuming Logan Thomas starts.

 

[MAC_32]

I usually like the undercard bowls but a lot of these matchups are either really boring or will be total bloodbaths.

About the only non-BCS matchups I think will be interesting will be ASU/TT and WISC/SoCarolina.

Strongly disagree.

I'm not looking forward to the title game as I think it's going to be a woodshed beating, but there are a lot of games (besides BG) I'm looking forward to

The 2 you mentioned

Fresno vs. USC

BYU vs. Washington

Miami vs. Louisville

Oregon vs Texas

Va Tech vs UCLA

Have to say I'm glad the New Year's Eve night game looks bad this year though. And I'm glad the BCS shook out the way it did in the others games too. Looking forward to all of them...except the title game.

Not sure how USC is going to react going to Las Vegas to play a team they play in their 2014 opener and having the OC coach.

Washington is another team with a coaching change and BYU will try to run all over them.

OK, Miami-Lville might be decent if for no other reason than to see teddy B play against a fast defense.

Oregon-texas has bloodbath written all over it if the Ducks show up.

VT is mediocre with a bad QB, assuming Logan Thomas starts.

I hope the coaching issues don't impact Washington and USC too much. If they don't both of those could be very good games.

Agreed about Miami/Louisville.

I want to see Hundley vs. the Va Tech defense more than anything. Watching Logan get beaten to submission by UCLA's defense is just window dressing.

 

[culdeus]

People of the internet are at it again now they are convinced the next head coach of Texas is certain to be Jimbo. No reports on whether his wife has been house shopping in the Austin area, however.

 

[gump]

So is Oklahoma going to get the 2013 "B###h of the Bowls" award by getting their doors blown off by the highest margin?

This is one game I'm actually looking forward to. I think Oklahoma is one of the few teams in the nation that actually has the talent to match up against Alabama- though they certainly haven't played that way sometimes. But they can.Also, I keep thinking about the last time Alabama was in a bowl game that they did not want to be in- wasn't that against Utah?

The last bowl game they 'didn't want to be in' was the Capital One in '10...a 49-7 win over Michigan St.

I'm sure the Utah Sugar Bowl will be brought up a lot. I wouldn't put any weight on it, unless some players get suspended pre game. This team is way more talented and deep. And similar to '10, they'll want to send some guys who will be semi-legends locally out on a high.

 

[culdeus]

Jan 1 games have more interest level to me than they have had in a very long time.

Also, seems like the bowls are not nearly as spread out as before. More games on 31st than usual? More games on the first saturday as well.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

BREAKING NEWS: The Tennessee Volunteers failed to qualify for a bowl for the third consecutive year. In that same span, Rice has been to two bowl games, Duke has a ten win season and Vanderbilt has become the most successful football program in the state. Tennessee fans are now fans of Auburn, Alabama, MIssouri, Texas A&M, LSU, Georgia, South Carolina, Vanderbilt, Ole Miss and MIssissippi State.

S-E-C!

S-E-C!

S-E-C!

 

[Doctor Detroit]

O/U on the number of times "they didn't want to be here" or something similar as the excuse for several losses this bowl season?? I'd like the list of teams prior to making my bowl pick'em selections....TIA.

Oregon and Missouri probably top the list. Both teams who probably feel they should be in BCS Bowls.

I disagree on Mizzou, 6 weeks ago they'd have been ecstatic to be in the Cotton. They have some time to lick their wounds and get back at it. Same narrative for Oklahoma State.

Bama could go either way, but since Saban has already lost as a huge favorite after falling short of the title game I have to think he won't let it happen again...right?

I don't think either Nebraska nor Georgia want to be in Jacksonville, no edge to be had there.

LSU will probably take Iowa lightly. Texas A&M vs. Duke too.

Northern Illinois has to be deflated, they don't get much time to recover, and Utah State is a pretty damn good team. That, and this version of Northern Illinois isn't as good as last year's version anyway.

Ohio U quit on the season when they lose to Central Michigan.

That's all I have on first glance...

Iowa is actually pretty decent, they are the only team to almost win in Columbus.

 

[MAC_32]

O/U on the number of times "they didn't want to be here" or something similar as the excuse for several losses this bowl season?? I'd like the list of teams prior to making my bowl pick'em selections....TIA.

Oregon and Missouri probably top the list. Both teams who probably feel they should be in BCS Bowls.

I disagree on Mizzou, 6 weeks ago they'd have been ecstatic to be in the Cotton. They have some time to lick their wounds and get back at it. Same narrative for Oklahoma State.

Bama could go either way, but since Saban has already lost as a huge favorite after falling short of the title game I have to think he won't let it happen again...right?

I don't think either Nebraska nor Georgia want to be in Jacksonville, no edge to be had there.

LSU will probably take Iowa lightly. Texas A&M vs. Duke too.

Northern Illinois has to be deflated, they don't get much time to recover, and Utah State is a pretty damn good team. That, and this version of Northern Illinois isn't as good as last year's version anyway.

Ohio U quit on the season when they lose to Central Michigan.

That's all I have on first glance...

Iowa is actually pretty decent, they are the only team to almost win in Columbus.

The only variable is Mett, which to be fair is a very big variable. Iowa has no one to matchup with either WR and Hill could run for 200. LSU's defense has taken a step back this year, but can they even get to the 20's let alone 30 vs. LSU? I find it hard to believe LSU doesn't score 30 even without Mett, so if they show up I can't see this one being in doubt late.

 

[Dan Lambskin]

O/U on the number of times "they didn't want to be here" or something similar as the excuse for several losses this bowl season?? I'd like the list of teams prior to making my bowl pick'em selections....TIA.

Oregon and Missouri probably top the list. Both teams who probably feel they should be in BCS Bowls.

I disagree on Mizzou, 6 weeks ago they'd have been ecstatic to be in the Cotton. They have some time to lick their wounds and get back at it. Same narrative for Oklahoma State.Bama could go either way, but since Saban has already lost as a huge favorite after falling short of the title game I have to think he won't let it happen again...right?

I don't think either Nebraska nor Georgia want to be in Jacksonville, no edge to be had there.

LSU will probably take Iowa lightly. Texas A&M vs. Duke too.

Northern Illinois has to be deflated, they don't get much time to recover, and Utah State is a pretty damn good team. That, and this version of Northern Illinois isn't as good as last year's version anyway.

Ohio U quit on the season when they lose to Central Michigan.

That's all I have on first glance...

Iowa is actually pretty decent, they are the only team to almost win in Columbus.

Yeah their only losses are to NIU, Wisconsin MSU and OSU who have only 6 losses between the 4 of them

 

[MAC_32]

Yeah their only losses are to NIU, Wisconsin MSU and OSU who have only 6 losses between the 4 of them

As BG showed Friday, Northern Illinois is not that good. They're Lynch and nothing else.

Michigan State and Wisconsin both destroyed them. Once Ohio got their head removed from their ### they did too.

They scuffled around with Missouri State, tried to blow it vs. Iowa State, and did blow it vs. Northwestern before prevailing in overtime.

Their last 6 quarters of the year were pretty good, but other than that - very, very average.

 

[The Commish]

I'm not sure how this is possible:

#10 Oregon (10-2): Alamo Bowl Dec 30th

#14 ASU (10-3): Holiday Bowl Dec 30th

#17 UCLA (9-3): Sun Bowl Dec 31st

#25 USC (9-4): Las Vegas Bowl Dec 21st

Washington (8-4): Fight Hunger Bowl Dec 27th

How the heck is Larry Scott letting this happen? He seems to get it everywhere else when it comes to running a conference. I can't believe this is their schedule. When the playoff comes around, that doesn't affect the lower bowls does it? How does he go about improving their bowl bids going forward?

 

[MAC_32]

I'm not sure how this is possible:

#10 Oregon (10-2): Alamo Bowl Dec 30th

#14 ASU (10-3): Holiday Bowl Dec 30th

#17 UCLA (9-3): Sun Bowl Dec 31st

#25 USC (9-4): Las Vegas Bowl Dec 21st

Washington (8-4): Fight Hunger Bowl Dec 27th

How the heck is Larry Scott letting this happen? He seems to get it everywhere else when it comes to running a conference. I can't believe this is their schedule. When the playoff comes around, that doesn't affect the lower bowls does it? How does he go about improving their bowl bids going forward?

Logistically, not sure what you can expect them to do. As long as the other bowls (Cotton, Cap One, Outback, Chick-Fil-A) are bringing fans there's no reason for them to break their ties and bring in a PAC 12 team instead. Best they can hope for is a few years of non Clemson and Florida State teams in Atlanta New Year's Eve, but even then they could (will?) be offset by the SEC rep's crowd. Iowa may be mediocre, but those will fans will pile into Tampa that week.

Personally, I'm happy they have a bunch of December games. I love watching PAC 12 football and it's giving me an opportunity to watch all of them.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

The three biggest disparities in the Sagarin rankings of bowl opponents are the following:

Notre Dame v Rutgers

Wazzu v Colorado State

ASU v Techa Tech

 

[culdeus]

I'm not sure how this is possible:

#10 Oregon (10-2): Alamo Bowl Dec 30th

#14 ASU (10-3): Holiday Bowl Dec 30th

#17 UCLA (9-3): Sun Bowl Dec 31st

#25 USC (9-4): Las Vegas Bowl Dec 21st

Washington (8-4): Fight Hunger Bowl Dec 27th

How the heck is Larry Scott letting this happen? He seems to get it everywhere else when it comes to running a conference. I can't believe this is their schedule. When the playoff comes around, that doesn't affect the lower bowls does it? How does he go about improving their bowl bids going forward?

West coast needs bigger/better bowls. Something big in LA/SF/SD+Rose

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Final Sagarin Conference Rankings:

83 SEC West

82 Pac 12 North

82 PAC 12 South

77 SEC East

76 Big X Legends

76 Big 12

75 ACC Coastal

74 Big X Leaders

73 ACC Atlantic

After that it is a big gap to the next conference

 

[MAC_32]

Final Sagarin Conference Rankings:

83 SEC West

82 Pac 12 North

82 PAC 12 South

77 SEC East

76 Big X Legends

76 Big 12

75 ACC Coastal

74 Big X Leaders

73 ACC Atlantic

After that it is a big gap to the next conference

I'd take several teams in the Mountain West or AAC and even a few MAC teams before anyone in the ACC Atlantic.

Not at all surprised about the end rankings for the PAC 12 though.

 

[gump]

People of the internet are at it again now they are convinced the next head coach of Texas is certain to be Jimbo. No reports on whether his wife has been house shopping in the Austin area, however.

They haven't given up on Saban yet.

It'll be brief, but this is the Mother of all Coaching Search Sagas. You have the fanbase that essentially invented this drama against the largest and most arrogant fanbase. Planes are being tracked. Rumors of Oil Money being thrown around. And now a school President may be sacrificed. Buckle up!

 

[MAC_32]

I'm not sure how this is possible:

#10 Oregon (10-2): Alamo Bowl Dec 30th

#14 ASU (10-3): Holiday Bowl Dec 30th

#17 UCLA (9-3): Sun Bowl Dec 31st

#25 USC (9-4): Las Vegas Bowl Dec 21st

Washington (8-4): Fight Hunger Bowl Dec 27th

How the heck is Larry Scott letting this happen? He seems to get it everywhere else when it comes to running a conference. I can't believe this is their schedule. When the playoff comes around, that doesn't affect the lower bowls does it? How does he go about improving their bowl bids going forward?

West coast needs bigger/better bowls. Something big in LA/SF/SD+Rose

I'm a little surprised something meaningful near San Fran hasn't materialized. LA has too much already going on and there is a good, well established game in San Diego. San Fran is a great travel destination with a huge metro area to help support it locally (although not one that's well known for supporting college football) though. It would require a SEC team to give up their home turf though, leaving the south to play their bowl game, even though they would bring fans. Probably a big reason it hasn't even reached the developmental stage.

From a pure football perspective, I'd much rather see LSU out there the afternoon of January 2nd against Oregon, move Iowa to the Alamo, Nebraska/Georgia over to Tampa and put that God awful Gator Bowl out of its misery.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

I'd take several teams in the Mountain West or AAC and even a few MAC teams before anyone in the ACC Atlantic.

Yeah, plenty of those teams would steamroll Clemson and Florida State.

 

[MAC_32]

I'd take several teams in the Mountain West or AAC and even a few MAC teams before anyone in the ACC Atlantic.

Yeah, plenty of those teams would steamroll Clemson and Florida State.

Coastal. Sorry. Incorrectly assumed the higher ranked was the one with the Noles and Clemson. Scary it isn't. I don't pay attention to division names, I don't even know which one Michigan is in. Whichever division we're in has a stupid name, that I know for sure.

 

[Slapdash]

Any thoughts on how SC will match up against the Badgers? Seems like they have only lost close games (similar to SC) and have a strong rushing game. Can't say I have caught any of their games this year.

 

[MAC_32]

Any thoughts on how SC will match up against the Badgers? Seems like they have only lost close games (similar to SC) and have a strong rushing game. Can't say I have caught any of their games this year.

Borland vs. Mike Davis is going to be a) a lot of fun and b) a 3 hour trial to show that Borland is capable of playing MIKE at the next level. I think he can do it and will be successful. If South Carolina wins going away I need to be wrong about this.

Expect the Badgers to run right at Clowney, probably more with White than Gordon. I hope they adjust their use of Gordon though. The speed stuff outside works in the Big 10, but won't work nearly as well vs. South Carolina. They'll need to find other ways to get him in space, but he is effective between the tackles too, so they have options. I don't think South Carolina will run all over them, so they'll be able to use Abbrederis as they want to instead of being forced to all the time. Abbrederis is successful regardless, but he isn't as effective (who is?) when he is being targeted every other play.

Unless South Carolina shuts down the Wisconsin run game, or Wisconsin shoots themselves in the foot over and over again like they did in Columbus, I think the Badgers win.

 

[fantasycurse42]

Laughed at for mocking the Big 10 last week, so I shall double down:

Clemson over Ohio State

Stanford over Michigan State

South Carolina over Wisconsin (question this one a little)

Minnesota over Syracuse

Michigan over Kansas State

LSU over Iowa

Georgia over Nebraska

Big 10 will finish 2-5 at best 3-4

 

[culdeus]

I'm not sure how this is possible:

#10 Oregon (10-2): Alamo Bowl Dec 30th

#14 ASU (10-3): Holiday Bowl Dec 30th

#17 UCLA (9-3): Sun Bowl Dec 31st

#25 USC (9-4): Las Vegas Bowl Dec 21st

Washington (8-4): Fight Hunger Bowl Dec 27th

How the heck is Larry Scott letting this happen? He seems to get it everywhere else when it comes to running a conference. I can't believe this is their schedule. When the playoff comes around, that doesn't affect the lower bowls does it? How does he go about improving their bowl bids going forward?

West coast needs bigger/better bowls. Something big in LA/SF/SD+Rose

I'm a little surprised something meaningful near San Fran hasn't materialized. LA has too much already going on and there is a good, well established game in San Diego. San Fran is a great travel destination with a huge metro area to help support it locally (although not one that's well known for supporting college football) though. It would require a SEC team to give up their home turf though, leaving the south to play their bowl game, even though they would bring fans. Probably a big reason it hasn't even reached the developmental stage.

From a pure football perspective, I'd much rather see LSU out there the afternoon of January 2nd against Oregon, move Iowa to the Alamo, Nebraska/Georgia over to Tampa and put that God awful Gator Bowl out of its misery.

The holiday bowl is what screws them. Big 12 is no longer capable of putting together the right amount of elite teams at their current size, composition.

 

[MAC_32]

Laughed at for mocking the Big 10 last week, so I shall double down:

Clemson over Ohio State

Stanford over Michigan State

South Carolina over Wisconsin (question this one a little)

Minnesota over Syracuse

Michigan over Kansas State

LSU over Iowa

Georgia over Nebraska

Big 10 will finish 2-5 at best 3-4

Not why you were being laughed at.

 

[Keerock]

Laughed at for mocking the Big 10 last week, so I shall double down:

Clemson over Ohio State

Stanford over Michigan State

South Carolina over Wisconsin (question this one a little)

Minnesota over Syracuse

Michigan over Kansas State

LSU over Iowa

Georgia over Nebraska

Big 10 will finish 2-5 at best 3-4

Can't argue with your numbers, but I'll argue with your picks.

Ohio State over Clemson

Michigan State over Stanford (homer call)

South Carolina over Wisconsin (close one)

Minnesota over Syracuse

Kansas State over Michigan

LSU over Iowa

Georgia over Nebraska

 

[MAC_32]

I'm not sure how this is possible:

#10 Oregon (10-2): Alamo Bowl Dec 30th

#14 ASU (10-3): Holiday Bowl Dec 30th

#17 UCLA (9-3): Sun Bowl Dec 31st

#25 USC (9-4): Las Vegas Bowl Dec 21st

Washington (8-4): Fight Hunger Bowl Dec 27th

How the heck is Larry Scott letting this happen? He seems to get it everywhere else when it comes to running a conference. I can't believe this is their schedule. When the playoff comes around, that doesn't affect the lower bowls does it? How does he go about improving their bowl bids going forward?

West coast needs bigger/better bowls. Something big in LA/SF/SD+Rose

I'm a little surprised something meaningful near San Fran hasn't materialized. LA has too much already going on and there is a good, well established game in San Diego. San Fran is a great travel destination with a huge metro area to help support it locally (although not one that's well known for supporting college football) though. It would require a SEC team to give up their home turf though, leaving the south to play their bowl game, even though they would bring fans. Probably a big reason it hasn't even reached the developmental stage.

From a pure football perspective, I'd much rather see LSU out there the afternoon of January 2nd against Oregon, move Iowa to the Alamo, Nebraska/Georgia over to Tampa and put that God awful Gator Bowl out of its misery.

The holiday bowl is what screws them. Big 12 is no longer capable of putting together the right amount of elite teams at their current size, composition.

It's more than just that. Oklahoma got a BCS at large instead of Oregon because Oklahoma will bring more people. That move caused a domino effect for both conferences. If Oregon gets the BCS at large then Arizona State and UCLA split the Alamo (didn't realize the Big 10 lost this tie in) and Holiday with Oklahoma and Texas. This looks much better for the PAC 12 than reality, but...they don't travel.

 

[Tom Servo]

I'm not sure how this is possible:

#10 Oregon (10-2): Alamo Bowl Dec 30th

#14 ASU (10-3): Holiday Bowl Dec 30th

#17 UCLA (9-3): Sun Bowl Dec 31st

#25 USC (9-4): Las Vegas Bowl Dec 21st

Washington (8-4): Fight Hunger Bowl Dec 27th

How the heck is Larry Scott letting this happen? He seems to get it everywhere else when it comes to running a conference. I can't believe this is their schedule. When the playoff comes around, that doesn't affect the lower bowls does it? How does he go about improving their bowl bids going forward?

Outside of Arizona/SD/LA, what destination west of the Rockies is even remotely attractive for a bowl game? Someone mentioned SF, but how's the weather this time of year?

 

[MAC_32]

Laughed at for mocking the Big 10 last week, so I shall double down:

Clemson over Ohio State

Stanford over Michigan State

South Carolina over Wisconsin (question this one a little)

Minnesota over Syracuse

Michigan over Kansas State

LSU over Iowa

Georgia over Nebraska

Big 10 will finish 2-5 at best 3-4

Can't argue with your numbers, but I'll argue with your picks.

Ohio State over Clemson

Michigan State over Stanford (homer call)

South Carolina over Wisconsin (close one)

Minnesota over Syracuse

Kansas State over Michigan

LSU over Iowa

Georgia over Nebraska

I think Clemson wins, but that one can go either way.

I'm torn on Michigan St/Stanford. Can't say enough how much I am looking forward to this game. Pulling hard for Stanford, but cannot dismiss just how dominant Michigan St has been.

I'm part worried Michigan doesn't show up because of where they're playing, but these guys should be coaching with a fire lit under them. Man for man, we're so much better than K St though.

Speaking of not showing up, argument to made both ways in Georgia/Nebraska. Coin flip. Healthy, this is a blowout though.

I am sure I'll be the minority in Wisconsin over South Carolina, won't pick that battle.

Agree with both about Minnesota and LSU.

 

[MAC_32]

I'm not sure how this is possible:

#10 Oregon (10-2): Alamo Bowl Dec 30th

#14 ASU (10-3): Holiday Bowl Dec 30th

#17 UCLA (9-3): Sun Bowl Dec 31st

#25 USC (9-4): Las Vegas Bowl Dec 21st

Washington (8-4): Fight Hunger Bowl Dec 27th

How the heck is Larry Scott letting this happen? He seems to get it everywhere else when it comes to running a conference. I can't believe this is their schedule. When the playoff comes around, that doesn't affect the lower bowls does it? How does he go about improving their bowl bids going forward?

Outside of Arizona/SD/LA, what destination west of the Rockies is even remotely attractive for a bowl game? Someone mentioned SF, but how's the weather this time of year?

Same as it usually is.

Seattle would be a great destination too. Awesome city. They got rid of the dome though.

Denver wouldn't work for a bowl either given their current setup, but, again, awesome city. Need a dome to host a bowl though.

That said, I hope this year's Super Bowl is a big success, so it opens up the window to more cold weather bowls. Denver, Seattle, and San Francisco are all fantastic destinations. I'd go there 3 and 5+ times before I'd ever go to Miami, Dallas, Atlanta, Tampa, etc. again.