*** Official 2015 College Football Thread *** (3 Viewers)

[The Commish]

FSU WINS OVER RANKED TEAMS: 0

ND and Clemson were ranked in last week's rankings and the new one doesn't come out until tomorrow...what means this?

 

[hagmania]

FSU WINS OVER RANKED TEAMS: 0

ND and Clemson were ranked in last week's rankings and the new one doesn't come out until tomorrow...what means this?

Pretty sure ranked wins should be calculated at end of season

 

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FSU WINS OVER RANKED TEAMS: 0

ND and Clemson were ranked in last week's rankings and the new one doesn't come out until tomorrow...what means this?

HTH

 

[Premier]

FSU WINS OVER RANKED TEAMS: 0

Oh noes

 

[jb1020]

I think they bump FSU to #1, but Alabama should be able to overtake the top spot if if they win out. Although, I'm not sure if a win over Auburn or the SEC East conference championship will make much of a difference.

I think FSU - Alabama go 1-2 this week, most definitely.

3 is probably Oregon

4 to me is a tossup between TCU, Baylor and Mississippi State.

I guess the committee will have to explain to me how Oregons one loss trumps Miss States one loss.

Even thought they have said the timing of a loss has no bearing...I think it does.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

Don't worry about FSU guys. No way they'll be able to finish the season up with a win at Will Muschamp Field.

 

[The Commish]

FSU WINS OVER RANKED TEAMS: 0

ND and Clemson were ranked in last week's rankings and the new one doesn't come out until tomorrow...what means this?

HTH

It doesn't....it shows both Clemson and ND ranked

 

[The Commish]

I think they bump FSU to #1, but Alabama should be able to overtake the top spot if if they win out. Although, I'm not sure if a win over Auburn or the SEC East conference championship will make much of a difference.

I think FSU - Alabama go 1-2 this week, most definitely.

3 is probably Oregon

4 to me is a tossup between TCU, Baylor and Mississippi State.

I guess the committee will have to explain to me how Oregons one loss trumps Miss States one loss.

Even thought they have said the timing of a loss has no bearing...I think it does.

I doubt it will be about the loss. If everything stays the course and both have a loss, Oregon will also have a division championship and a conference championship that MSU won't.

 

[Quez]

I think they bump FSU to #1, but Alabama should be able to overtake the top spot if if they win out. Although, I'm not sure if a win over Auburn or the SEC East conference championship will make much of a difference.

I think FSU - Alabama go 1-2 this week, most definitely.3 is probably Oregon

4 to me is a tossup between TCU, Baylor and Mississippi State.

I guess the committee will have to explain to me how Oregons one loss trumps Miss States one loss.

Even thought they have said the timing of a loss has no bearing...I think it does.

I agree. Miss St. lost to a good team, Oregon didn't.

 

[Alonzo Mosely]

When did Tim start doing crack?

New here?

what I wrote was absolutely true. If UCLA beats USC and Stanford, they're in the Pac12 Championship game. If they beat Oregon, then, still with only 2 losses, they will be selected to be one of the four. If they win their final 2 games, they win the trophy.So as I wrote, all the Bruins need to do is keep winning, and the championship is theirs.

0 or 1 loss FSU, 1 or 2 loss SEC champ, 1 loss SEC non-champ, 1 loss big 12 champ, 1 loss big 10 champ would all get in over UCLA. 2 loss big 12 champ would be a maybe.

FSU gets in, Big12 Champ (TCU), SEC Champ (Alabama). That leaves one spot for the Pac12 champ which in my scenario is UCLA.

SEC South Runner Up (1-loss MSU or two loss Ole Miss), 1-loss Big 12 Runner up, and 1-loss OSU all get in before UCLA

 

[AAABatteries]

Cappy - you better hope Duke doesn't slip up against UNC or Wake!

 

[Quez]

Cappy - you better hope Duke doesn't slip up against UNC or Wake!

For real, don't wanna play GT.

 

[Bobcat10]

Just like they did to Va Tech and Penn State, I'm sure. TCU didn't struggle with Minnesota either, unlike OSU.

Yeah, but Minnesota was ranked when they played OSU, and unranked when they played TCU. Therefore, it is a better win for OSU. [/timlogic]

I'd love to have seen the result of a TCU/Minn game this past weekend in Minnesota.

 

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FSU WINS OVER RANKED TEAMS: 0

ND and Clemson were ranked in last week's rankings and the new one doesn't come out until tomorrow...what means this?

HTH

It doesn't....it shows both Clemson and ND ranked

Current rankings (AP/Coaches) Have both falling off.

Old rankings (Playoff) still have them on there.

 

[AAABatteries]

Cappy - you better hope Duke doesn't slip up against UNC or Wake!

For real, don't wanna play GT.

You can find plenty of my posts #####ing about Johnson at the beginning of the season but he has them playing really well right now. On the flip side, you can't lose to Duke and UNC and expect anyone to take you too seriously. I expect UGAG to roll us. I don't expect Duke to slip up but who knows. I think we could give FSU a game, especially if Jameis has another poor first half and we can shorten the game with some sustained drives.

 

[Tiger Fan]

can't believe there will even be debate if Miss. St will be in the top 4. Why wouldn't they?

 

[The Commish]

FSU WINS OVER RANKED TEAMS: 0

ND and Clemson were ranked in last week's rankings and the new one doesn't come out until tomorrow...what means this?

HTH

It doesn't....it shows both Clemson and ND ranked

Current rankings (AP/Coaches) Have both falling off.

Old rankings (Playoff) still have them on there.

The only poll on that page you linked that matters is titled "College Football Playoff Rankings" When the new one comes out, it very well might reflect that there are zero wins as well. Then the question becomes, "so?" Actually, I guess you can start to tackle that question now if you want.

 

[The Commish]

can't believe there will even be debate if Miss. St will be in the top 4. Why wouldn't they?

I assume this is since there are plenty of scenarios that would keep them out of the playoff. They no longer control their own destiny. The team just above them has the H2H tiebreaker to play in the CCG, right?

 

[Alonzo Mosely]

can't believe there will even be debate if Miss. St will be in the top 4. Why wouldn't they?

I assume this is since there are plenty of scenarios that would keep them out of the playoff. They no longer control their own destiny. The team just above them has the H2H tiebreaker to play in the CCG, right?

They don't drop below 3. Only 1-loss team with a better resume is Bama.

 

[GDogg]

When did Tim start doing crack?

New here?

what I wrote was absolutely true. If UCLA beats USC and Stanford, they're in the Pac12 Championship game. If they beat Oregon, then, still with only 2 losses, they will be selected to be one of the four. If they win their final 2 games, they win the trophy.So as I wrote, all the Bruins need to do is keep winning, and the championship is theirs.

0 or 1 loss FSU, 1 or 2 loss SEC champ, 1 loss SEC non-champ, 1 loss big 12 champ, 1 loss big 10 champ would all get in over UCLA. 2 loss big 12 champ would be a maybe.

FSU gets in, Big12 Champ (TCU), SEC Champ (Alabama). That leaves one spot for the Pac12 champ which in my scenario is UCLA.

SEC South Runner Up (1-loss MSU or two loss Ole Miss), 1-loss Big 12 Runner up, and 1-loss OSU all get in before UCLA

You think the SEC South Runner-Up (not the SEC conference championship runner-up, but the division runner up) will get in before the Pac-12 Champion? I don't think a 1 loss Big 12 team runner-up gets in over the P12 champ, either. Ohio St. would. Could happen, but I'd be more than a little surprised.

Also, it's not going to matter. UCLA sucks. They crap the bed any time they have a chance to do something remotely big on the national stage. They will lose to Stanford or Southern Cal, if not both. And, they won't even face Oregon.

 

[timschochet]

When did Tim start doing crack?

New here?

what I wrote was absolutely true. If UCLA beats USC and Stanford, they're in the Pac12 Championship game. If they beat Oregon, then, still with only 2 losses, they will be selected to be one of the four. If they win their final 2 games, they win the trophy.So as I wrote, all the Bruins need to do is keep winning, and the championship is theirs.

0 or 1 loss FSU, 1 or 2 loss SEC champ, 1 loss SEC non-champ, 1 loss big 12 champ, 1 loss big 10 champ would all get in over UCLA. 2 loss big 12 champ would be a maybe.

FSU gets in, Big12 Champ (TCU), SEC Champ (Alabama). That leaves one spot for the Pac12 champ which in my scenario is UCLA.

SEC South Runner Up (1-loss MSU or two loss Ole Miss), 1-loss Big 12 Runner up, and 1-loss OSU all get in before UCLA

You think the SEC South Runner-Up (not the SEC conference championship runner-up, but the division runner up) will get in before the Pac-12 Champion? I don't think a 1 loss Big 12 team runner-up gets in over the P12 champ, either. Ohio St. would. Could happen, but I'd be more than a little surprised.

Also, it's not going to matter. UCLA sucks. They crap the bed any time they have a chance to do something remotely big on the national stage. They will lose to Stanford or Southern Cal, if not both. And, they won't even face Oregon.

Damn, even I'm not that negative. Have a little faith!

 

[Alonzo Mosely]

When did Tim start doing crack?

New here?

what I wrote was absolutely true. If UCLA beats USC and Stanford, they're in the Pac12 Championship game. If they beat Oregon, then, still with only 2 losses, they will be selected to be one of the four. If they win their final 2 games, they win the trophy.So as I wrote, all the Bruins need to do is keep winning, and the championship is theirs.

0 or 1 loss FSU, 1 or 2 loss SEC champ, 1 loss SEC non-champ, 1 loss big 12 champ, 1 loss big 10 champ would all get in over UCLA. 2 loss big 12 champ would be a maybe.

FSU gets in, Big12 Champ (TCU), SEC Champ (Alabama). That leaves one spot for the Pac12 champ which in my scenario is UCLA.

SEC South Runner Up (1-loss MSU or two loss Ole Miss), 1-loss Big 12 Runner up, and 1-loss OSU all get in before UCLA

You think the SEC South Runner-Up (not the SEC conference championship runner-up, but the division runner up) will get in before the Pac-12 Champion?

Why wouldn't they?

 

[The Commish]

can't believe there will even be debate if Miss. St will be in the top 4. Why wouldn't they?

I assume this is since there are plenty of scenarios that would keep them out of the playoff. They no longer control their own destiny. The team just above them has the H2H tiebreaker to play in the CCG, right?

They don't drop below 3. Only 1-loss team with a better resume is Bama.

I'm pretty confident, there will be one loss teams with conference championships as well. If we are to believe the committee, there is emphasis on that achievement. They won't even have won their division. Putting all the SEC aside, those things will add up if we are to believe the committee

 

[GDogg]

When did Tim start doing crack?

New here?

what I wrote was absolutely true. If UCLA beats USC and Stanford, they're in the Pac12 Championship game. If they beat Oregon, then, still with only 2 losses, they will be selected to be one of the four. If they win their final 2 games, they win the trophy.So as I wrote, all the Bruins need to do is keep winning, and the championship is theirs.

0 or 1 loss FSU, 1 or 2 loss SEC champ, 1 loss SEC non-champ, 1 loss big 12 champ, 1 loss big 10 champ would all get in over UCLA. 2 loss big 12 champ would be a maybe.

FSU gets in, Big12 Champ (TCU), SEC Champ (Alabama). That leaves one spot for the Pac12 champ which in my scenario is UCLA.

SEC South Runner Up (1-loss MSU or two loss Ole Miss), 1-loss Big 12 Runner up, and 1-loss OSU all get in before UCLA

You think the SEC South Runner-Up (not the SEC conference championship runner-up, but the division runner up) will get in before the Pac-12 Champion? I don't think a 1 loss Big 12 team runner-up gets in over the P12 champ, either. Ohio St. would. Could happen, but I'd be more than a little surprised.

Also, it's not going to matter. UCLA sucks. They crap the bed any time they have a chance to do something remotely big on the national stage. They will lose to Stanford or Southern Cal, if not both. And, they won't even face Oregon.

Damn, even I'm not that negative. Have a little faith!

I'd love to, but it's time to prove something. Short list of "big" games the past 3 seasons: Stanford Parts 1 and 2 (2012), Baylor 2012, Stanford 2013, Oregon 2013, the worst of them all - Arizona St. at home 2013, Oregon 2014 and that's not to mention Utah 2014, which wasn't supposed to be a big game.

 

[GDogg]

When did Tim start doing crack?

New here?

what I wrote was absolutely true. If UCLA beats USC and Stanford, they're in the Pac12 Championship game. If they beat Oregon, then, still with only 2 losses, they will be selected to be one of the four. If they win their final 2 games, they win the trophy.So as I wrote, all the Bruins need to do is keep winning, and the championship is theirs.

0 or 1 loss FSU, 1 or 2 loss SEC champ, 1 loss SEC non-champ, 1 loss big 12 champ, 1 loss big 10 champ would all get in over UCLA. 2 loss big 12 champ would be a maybe.

FSU gets in, Big12 Champ (TCU), SEC Champ (Alabama). That leaves one spot for the Pac12 champ which in my scenario is UCLA.

SEC South Runner Up (1-loss MSU or two loss Ole Miss), 1-loss Big 12 Runner up, and 1-loss OSU all get in before UCLA

You think the SEC South Runner-Up (not the SEC conference championship runner-up, but the division runner up) will get in before the Pac-12 Champion?

Why wouldn't they?

Why would they?

 

[Alonzo Mosely]

can't believe there will even be debate if Miss. St will be in the top 4. Why wouldn't they?

I assume this is since there are plenty of scenarios that would keep them out of the playoff. They no longer control their own destiny. The team just above them has the H2H tiebreaker to play in the CCG, right?

They don't drop below 3. Only 1-loss team with a better resume is Bama.

I'm pretty confident, there will be one loss teams with conference championships as well. If we are to believe the committee, there is emphasis on that achievement. They won't even have won their division. Putting all the SEC aside, those things will add up if we are to believe the committee

If the Big 12 can submit two champions why can't the SEC South?

 

[The Commish]

If the Big 12 can submit two champions why can't the SEC South?

I don't know what any of this means...starting with "submitting two champions" all the way to the "SEC South". Are there some new guidelines on the CFP page I was not aware of?

 

[Alonzo Mosely]

If the Big 12 can submit two champions why can't the SEC South?

I don't know what any of this means...starting with "submitting two champions" all the way to the "SEC South". Are there some new guidelines on the CFP page I was not aware of?

If they both win out, IIRC, the Big 12 can submit Baylor and TCU as champions.

 

[timschochet]

Well I expect UCLA to beat both USC and Stanford. I will be at both games. UCLA is at home, and they are better than both of those teams. Anything could happen and of course the first game is a great rivalry, but my expectation is two victories.

Against Oregon is of course another matter. Very unlikely. Still, not impossible. Hundley and the defense would have to play over their heads, a few breaks in their favor- I would give them a 20% chance to win a game against Oregon. Not good odds, but not terrible.

 

[GDogg]

If the Big 12 can submit two champions why can't the SEC South?

I don't know what any of this means...starting with "submitting two champions" all the way to the "SEC South". Are there some new guidelines on the CFP page I was not aware of?

If they both win out, IIRC, the Big 12 can submit Baylor and TCU as champions.

That is not correct.

 

[CBusAlex]

I don't think the SEC South will get any teams into the playoffs.

 

[GDogg]

Well I expect UCLA to beat both USC and Stanford. I will be at both games. UCLA is at home, and they are better than both of those teams. Anything could happen and of course the first game is a great rivalry, but my expectation is two victories.

Against Oregon is of course another matter. Very unlikely. Still, not impossible. Hundley and the defense would have to play over their heads, a few breaks in their favor- I would give them a 20% chance to win a game against Oregon. Not good odds, but not terrible.

I'll be there, too.

Not gonna happen. I won't tell you what to do, but I'll say that you should get it out of your head. They have no shot to win the South. As soon as Arizona St. lost, Bruins all over Westwood began soiling their drawers.

 

[The Commish]

If the Big 12 can submit two champions why can't the SEC South?

I don't know what any of this means...starting with "submitting two champions" all the way to the "SEC South". Are there some new guidelines on the CFP page I was not aware of?

If they both win out, IIRC, the Big 12 can submit Baylor and TCU as champions.

I think you are misremembering

 

[The Commish]

I don't think the SEC South will get any teams into the playoffs.

 

[Emerson Biggens]

I usually come into this thread on Monday morning and have a good 45 minute read. I am a Mississippi state fan and am disappointed in the crap fest they took to Tuscaloosa Saturday. Terrible turnovers, terrible special teams, and awful play calling. I expected the team to show up.

All that being said, I expected to see a little discussion on the overturned fumble/touchdown. I'm not blaming the refs for anything as far as the outcome of the game, I just don't think they got this right. If the play would have been called a touchdown on the field, it should have stood (not confirmed). There was no proof of anything in any of the replays shown on tv. Sure, I think he probably scored before he fumbled, but I couldn't tell. How they overturn that is beyond me. The replay guy must have been this guy after Nick gave him a promotion

http://www.jkeithlee.com/TheSpot.gif

 

[Joe T]

I don't think the SEC South will get any teams into the playoffs.

I don't think There is an SEC south, so I agree with you.

Keep us posted on your thoughts on the BiG10 West.

 

[The Commish]

I don't think the SEC South will get any teams into the playoffs.

I don't think There is an SEC south, so I agree with you.

Keep us posted on your thoughts on the BiG10 West.

The B1G west looks like it's Wisconsin's to lose. Thought for a time, Minny might sneak in there.

 

[GDogg]

UCLA is projected to play the hardest schedule in the FBS by the end of the regular season, according to ESPN Stats & Information. And, in tim's fairy tale scenario, they'd then play Oregon.

 

[Tiger Fan]

can't believe there will even be debate if Miss. St will be in the top 4. Why wouldn't they?

I assume this is since there are plenty of scenarios that would keep them out of the playoff. They no longer control their own destiny. The team just above them has the H2H tiebreaker to play in the CCG, right?

Didn't come across like I meant, but I was talking about this week's rankings

 

[Tom Servo]

I think they bump FSU to #1, but Alabama should be able to overtake the top spot if if they win out. Although, I'm not sure if a win over Auburn or the SEC East conference championship will make much of a difference.

I think FSU - Alabama go 1-2 this week, most definitely.

3 is probably Oregon

4 to me is a tossup between TCU, Baylor and Mississippi State.

I guess the committee will have to explain to me how Oregons one loss trumps Miss States one loss.

Even thought they have said the timing of a loss has no bearing...I think it does.

If it were up to me, I'd have you guys at #4. The thing I've got concerns about is that because Miss. St. is not a "name" program, the committee will end up jamming them since there's little backlash to fear from fans/alumni, etc. If it were reversed, I guarantee you Bama stays in the top 4.

I'm hoping you make it, regardless.

 

[Slapdash]

SEC South?

 

[Slapdash]

FSU WINS OVER RANKED TEAMS: 0

ACC continues to disappoint. They'll get one against GT or Duke though. I think Florida is going to be a bigger challenge for them than those two, despite being a worse team.

 

[GDogg]

I think they bump FSU to #1, but Alabama should be able to overtake the top spot if if they win out. Although, I'm not sure if a win over Auburn or the SEC East conference championship will make much of a difference.

I think FSU - Alabama go 1-2 this week, most definitely.

3 is probably Oregon

4 to me is a tossup between TCU, Baylor and Mississippi State.

I guess the committee will have to explain to me how Oregons one loss trumps Miss States one loss.

Even thought they have said the timing of a loss has no bearing...I think it does.

It might be more about wins, though.

Miss. St., after this week, may only have one win against a team ranked in the committee's top 25 (Auburn). Oregon would have wins over three or four Top 25 teams (Mich. St., UCLA, Utah and maybe Arizona), including possibly two Top 10 teams.

 

[Slapdash]

It is fun to think of the chaos GT could cause by beating UGA and FSU at the end of the year. Do they have a chance in Athens? Notice they have a bye to prepare.

 

[Slapdash]

I think they bump FSU to #1, but Alabama should be able to overtake the top spot if if they win out. Although, I'm not sure if a win over Auburn or the SEC East conference championship will make much of a difference.

I think FSU - Alabama go 1-2 this week, most definitely.

3 is probably Oregon

4 to me is a tossup between TCU, Baylor and Mississippi State.

I guess the committee will have to explain to me how Oregons one loss trumps Miss States one loss.

Even thought they have said the timing of a loss has no bearing...I think it does.

It might be more about wins, though.

Miss. St., after this week, may only have one win against a team ranked in the committee's top 25 (Auburn). Oregon would have wins over three or four Top 25 teams (Mich. St., UCLA, Utah and maybe Arizona), including possibly two Top 10 teams.

You're probably right, but they'll have at least two and probably another (LSU or Arkansas would easily sneak back in with more wins) before it is all done.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

It is fun to think of the chaos GT could cause by beating UGA and FSU at the end of the year. Do they have a chance in Athens? Notice they have a bye to prepare.

I think UGA's O-Line will dominate the game but we've been more competitive against them than I expected under Johnson. Nothing will surprise me in that game. We don't even get FSU unless UNC can beat Duke Thursday night.

 

[GDogg]

I think they bump FSU to #1, but Alabama should be able to overtake the top spot if if they win out. Although, I'm not sure if a win over Auburn or the SEC East conference championship will make much of a difference.

I think FSU - Alabama go 1-2 this week, most definitely.

3 is probably Oregon

4 to me is a tossup between TCU, Baylor and Mississippi State.

I guess the committee will have to explain to me how Oregons one loss trumps Miss States one loss.

Even thought they have said the timing of a loss has no bearing...I think it does.

It might be more about wins, though.

Miss. St., after this week, may only have one win against a team ranked in the committee's top 25 (Auburn). Oregon would have wins over three or four Top 25 teams (Mich. St., UCLA, Utah and maybe Arizona), including possibly two Top 10 teams.

You're probably right, but they'll have at least two and probably another (LSU or Arkansas would easily sneak back in with more wins) before it is all done.

True, but LSU only has one more game (against A&M on Thanksgiving).

Arkansas has two games (against Ole Miss and Mizzou), but they've got 5 losses. And, when you look at their wins, I don't think they'd have the resume (although, look at A&M getting back in the rankings this past week) - Nicholls St., Texas Tech, N. Illinois, UAB, and LSU.

 

[Premier]

FSU ends with BC, Florida and GT (maybe). 3 extremely run-heavy teams and they are already down to the bare bones at linebacker. There's a chance one of those teams eventually wears them out. They will probably see 140 carries in those 3 games.

I sure hope Duke wins their next two. #### playing that triple option.

 

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UCLA is projected to play the hardest schedule in the FBS by the end of the regular season, according to ESPN Stats & Information. And, in tim's fairy tale scenario, they'd then play Oregon.

Just sayin...

 

[GDogg]

UCLA is projected to play the hardest schedule in the FBS by the end of the regular season, according to ESPN Stats & Information. And, in tim's fairy tale scenario, they'd then play Oregon.

Just sayin...

Wins sure are awesome. Thanks for the trip down memory lane!