Northern Voice
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7/50 to Seattle
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WOW. That surprises me. He is solid but I wouldn't say he is worth that kind of money. But it probably means he will destroy the Kings for the next 7 years because that is usually the way it works with guys they let leave.
Northern Voice
Footballguy
Sorry 7/50 is Montour, not Roy.
Northern Voice
Footballguy
Nashville going to sign Stamkos, Marchessault and Skjei? 
Zegras11
Footballguy
Solid 4th line guy that chips in some well timed goals.
Northern Voice
Footballguy
Washington trades for Chychrun, signs Matt Roy for 7/38.5. Quite a change to that back end. Add the Logan Thompson trade to upgrade G and I love their offseason.
Boston
Footballguy
Jake DeBrusk to Vancouver (7 x 5.5)...many Bruin fans breathing a sigh of relieve although him leaving was pretty much a done deal a while ago...such an odd player...felt like there was always something going on with him...when he was on he could play unfortunately the only thing consistent about him was his inconsistency.
zamboni
Footballguy
And some pretty sizable deals. Can't blame Drury with not jumping on any of them given the team's cap constraint. Have to figure something big is going down with Trouba and/or Kakko though.
Northern Voice
Footballguy
Leafs top 6 D of
Rielly - Tanev (signed 6/27.5)
McCabe - Liljegren (re-signed for 2/6)
Ekman-Larsson (signed 4/14) - Benoit
feels pretty solid and kind of playoff-y (meaning guys who will actually show up in the playoffs and not fade away). Liljegren needs to keep progressing - he was great until he got hurt last year - and Tanev OEL need to age well.
I don't hate Woll-Stolarz as a goaltender tandem. One needs to step up/Woll needs to stay healthy.
Feels like we're branching for another season of "will Matthews/Nylander/Marner/Tavares elevate their game / this team in the playoffs", which given past results of all but Nylander doesn't seem like the best bet to make.
Rielly - Tanev (signed 6/27.5)
McCabe - Liljegren (re-signed for 2/6)
Ekman-Larsson (signed 4/14) - Benoit
feels pretty solid and kind of playoff-y (meaning guys who will actually show up in the playoffs and not fade away). Liljegren needs to keep progressing - he was great until he got hurt last year - and Tanev OEL need to age well.
I don't hate Woll-Stolarz as a goaltender tandem. One needs to step up/Woll needs to stay healthy.
Feels like we're branching for another season of "will Matthews/Nylander/Marner/Tavares elevate their game / this team in the playoffs", which given past results of all but Nylander doesn't seem like the best bet to make.
zamboni
Footballguy
Lots of newly crowned Panthers departing via free agency. That's the price you pay for going for it all, but obviously worth it when it all works out.
I do think they need to shorten the season a tad - there was a lot of down time between rounds. Panthers just had their parade yesterday and are gone the next day. At least give them a bit more time to share in the afterglow with their (now former) teammates.
I do think they need to shorten the season a tad - there was a lot of down time between rounds. Panthers just had their parade yesterday and are gone the next day. At least give them a bit more time to share in the afterglow with their (now former) teammates.
TheAristocrat
Footballguy
Wild sign Yakov Trenin to 4 years at $3.5M AAV. Assuming he stays healthy and plays 60 minutes per game, we added a gritty, 50 goal scorer to our fourth line. Suck it, league.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Stanley Cup, homeboy.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
End of an era, but take away the emotional aspect and it's the correct move.
Zegras11
Footballguy
He's not that good. Maybe has one good game every 10. He played better last year, but he doesn't bring much to the table.
Northern Voice
Footballguy
Might be a guy who's game/role is much more valued on a competitive team. Yeah he's a 4th line guy who hits a lot and not much else but you need that guy in the playoffs and he seems to be universally loved by everyone around him which plays well in a playoff dressing room.
Zegras11
Footballguy
I don't think of him as being much of a hitter. 2 per game, and rarely impactful. Dude is always hurt. Has only made 60+ games once in six years. He's liked, but in the playoffs, you need the 4th line guys to actually contribute a goal now and then. D.Smith-Pelly, Travis Moen, Ron Niedermayer...
Zegras11
Footballguy
I was just coming here to post how ridiculous some of these are.
zamboni
Footballguy
The 5.4% bump in the salary cap is causing some of the GMs to spend like kids in a candy store. No doubt many of these contracts will be regretted at some point, but it probably will be someone else's problem by then.I was just coming here to post how ridiculous some of these are.
Northern Voice
Footballguy
The NHL has a salary floor for teams as well as a salary cap. San Jose needs to get over it.
Northern Voice
Footballguy
The Chandler Stephenson 7/44 contract to Seattle is the truly baffling one for me so far.
zamboni
Footballguy
No question - that’s why they already overpaid Goodrow and now taking on more bad expensive contracts. I want what Mike Grier is smoking.The NHL has a salary floor for teams as well as a salary cap. San Jose needs to get over it.
Northern Voice
Footballguy
I like the Toffoli deal at least. Even if it was a bit high $$$ wise, he'll be a good linemate for Celebrini. Don't want him hung out to dry like Bedard last year after Taylor Hall went down.No question - that’s why they already overpaid Goodrow and now taking on more bad expensive contracts. I want what Mike Grier is smoking.The NHL has a salary floor for teams as well as a salary cap. San Jose needs to get over it.
Hate that deal (as a Kings fan). I really like Toffoli and don't want him on the guppiesI like the Toffoli deal at least. Even if it was a bit high $$$ wise, he'll be a good linemate for Celebrini. Don't want him hung out to dry like Bedard last year after Taylor Hall went down.No question - that’s why they already overpaid Goodrow and now taking on more bad expensive contracts. I want what Mike Grier is smoking.The NHL has a salary floor for teams as well as a salary cap. San Jose needs to get over it.
Zegras11
Footballguy
“The Athletic learned from league sources that the Ducks made big offers to Steven Stamkos and Jonathan Marchessault, both of whom ultimately signed in Nashville. The Ducks took their swings. They just didn’t connect.”
Eric Stephens
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Swings were taken by the @AnaheimDucks to start free agency but they didn't connect on a whisper-quiet Day 1. Can they still pull off anything of note? Should they? (I think so.)#FlyTogether
Eric Stephens
@icemancometh
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Swings were taken by the @AnaheimDucks to start free agency but they didn't connect on a whisper-quiet Day 1. Can they still pull off anything of note? Should they? (I think so.)#FlyTogether
Ducks still have some work to do to get tot the cap floor.
I don't think it can be understated the effect of taxes. Nashville, no personal income tax. Florida, no tax. Texas, no tax.
I mean, don't get me wrong, you'd still have to live in Tennessee for a few years, but for a 34 year old, at $8M/year, that's over $1/M year more to play in Nashville than Anaheim.
And same with Canada, I think that's part of the reason they haven't won a cup in so long is it's hard to draw free agents to a country that taxes it's players so heavily. Sure, there are endorsement deals out there as well for top tier players, but not sure what kind of deal a Chris Tanev is going to get, which is part of the reason they give a soon to be 35 year old player a 6 year contract.
This year's free agent class was pretty dull, and I'm glad the Rangers didn't overspend (albeit a 2nd rounder for Reilly Smith was a bit tough to stomach, I would have hoped the Pens had retained like 75% of the salary for that). Wenneberg is a fine player, but with the upside of a 3rd line center and pk player who is not overly physical getting $5/M year, that's wow money to me.
I think there will a few big trades upcoming, although I was expecting them on draft day so wtf do I know.
I don't think it can be understated the effect of taxes. Nashville, no personal income tax. Florida, no tax. Texas, no tax.
I mean, don't get me wrong, you'd still have to live in Tennessee for a few years, but for a 34 year old, at $8M/year, that's over $1/M year more to play in Nashville than Anaheim.
And same with Canada, I think that's part of the reason they haven't won a cup in so long is it's hard to draw free agents to a country that taxes it's players so heavily. Sure, there are endorsement deals out there as well for top tier players, but not sure what kind of deal a Chris Tanev is going to get, which is part of the reason they give a soon to be 35 year old player a 6 year contract.
This year's free agent class was pretty dull, and I'm glad the Rangers didn't overspend (albeit a 2nd rounder for Reilly Smith was a bit tough to stomach, I would have hoped the Pens had retained like 75% of the salary for that). Wenneberg is a fine player, but with the upside of a 3rd line center and pk player who is not overly physical getting $5/M year, that's wow money to me.
I think there will a few big trades upcoming, although I was expecting them on draft day so wtf do I know.
Todem
Footballguy
Overpay.....not worth that. Liked him...and we got the real value. This is an obvious overpay.
Loved Lomberg down here. He was a fan fav. 2MM per for a 4th liner? What!!!
The two biggest losses were Stenlund and Larson. The Swedish mafia as we call them. Stenlund was a PK monster. Great pick up for Utah. Cats offered him 1.2 for 3 years......he got 2.5 for 2 in Utah.
Larson got a sweet deal from Toronto plus the Canucks paying him still from his buyout. Is what it is.
Cat's bring back Chris Driedger to compete with Spencer Knight for backup role to Bob.
Signed AJ Greer, Tomas Nosek and Jesper Boqvist.
We will extend Lundell no doubt and I hope we bring back Steve Lorentz as a project. Big kid....great kid actually and still has potential as a big dude on the 4th line.
We shall see if Tarensenko wants to stay home (his wife lives in Weston with his kids and she is soooooo hot) and take a cheap 1MM deal and make one more cup run.
The core is intact. After 24/25 Ekblad's contract is gone (7MM this year) and Knights 4M is also gone and Sam Bennett will be extended IMO. Verhage TBD.
Zito knows what he is doing.
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Skipdog77
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Jessica Campbell - First female NHL Assistant Coach
Congrats to Jessica Campbell, hired today by the Seattle Kraken as an assistant coach. This season she will become the first woman behind an NHL bench.
As a guy with a daughter who plays and loves the sport (and is in the final stages of sorting her offers and making her decision on where she wants to play her college hockey in 2025), this is pretty cool news.
Congrats to Jessica Campbell, hired today by the Seattle Kraken as an assistant coach. This season she will become the first woman behind an NHL bench.
As a guy with a daughter who plays and loves the sport (and is in the final stages of sorting her offers and making her decision on where she wants to play her college hockey in 2025), this is pretty cool news.
Northern Voice
Footballguy
Lorentz played junior hockey here in Peterborough, one of my favourite hockey players of the past decade or so.
He was a 12th round pick, #226 overall, just to come to the Ontario Hockey League. Didn't make the team his first year but hit a growth spurt and made it as a 17 year old. Played four full seasons with the Petes, going from a 4th liner to a guy who had 29 goals and 61 points in his last season, enough to get drafted to the Carolina Hurricanes in round 7, #186 overall.
He didn't crack the AHL lineup his first year as a pro, spending the first year and half of his second year in the ECHL. Put up solid enough numbers and after that 2nd year, never saw the ECHL again. His third pro season, he established himself as a solid AHL player but never got the call to the NHL.
Next season (20-21) makes the Hurricanes out of training camp, has never been back in the AHL since, 4 seasons of sticking in the NHL and yes, he's been in and out of the lineup (on very good teams) but he's stuck. Up to 230 regular season games + 32 playoff games for a guy who has had to prove himself and work from the bottom at every stage.
As you mentioned, also seems like a genuine great dude, couldn't be happier for him.
northern exposure
Footballguy
Oilers and Sabres made a trade:
Sabres get center Ryan McLeod and forward Tyler Tullio
Oilers get prospect Matt Savoie who was the 9th overall pick in the 2022 draft.
McLeod has lots of speed, but zero grit. Some have characterized him as flying around the ice not doing much. Tullio is a small, gritty winger with some skill.
Savoie is highly skilled, but only 5'9". The Oilers had his older brother, Carter, on their Bakersfield team. But they just let him go in the off season.
Sabres get center Ryan McLeod and forward Tyler Tullio
Oilers get prospect Matt Savoie who was the 9th overall pick in the 2022 draft.
McLeod has lots of speed, but zero grit. Some have characterized him as flying around the ice not doing much. Tullio is a small, gritty winger with some skill.
Savoie is highly skilled, but only 5'9". The Oilers had his older brother, Carter, on their Bakersfield team. But they just let him go in the off season.
Northern Voice
Footballguy
Sabres realized what Savoie was and sold high. McLeod is nothing special but the only long term NHL player in this trade.
northern exposure
Footballguy
Oilers needed to shed salary to get under the cap. McLeod was expendable and Tullio isn't anything special. I would not call that selling high.
The Oilers are taking a chance on a former top 10 1st round pick that is only 20. Worth taking a chance on I'd think.
ETA- Both teams trading to address needs. Buffalo has an abundance of young prospects,but lacks speed and NHL readiness in their Forwards.
Oilers have a lot of depth at Forward on their NHL roster and lack strong prospects in their pipeline.
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QuizGuy66
Footballguy
Very happy with the moves my Devils did. Might have liked a little more prominent RW but bringing back Tatar still is a good move. Getting Noesen back is sneaky good as well. Fitz addressed the lack of toughness IMO.
-QG
I’m ok with the Savoie trade, but thought he might be worth a bit more. McLeod is fast and good defensively, which fills a need. He can play 3C or maybe even higher in the lineup based on his play with Draisaitl. He’s great at exiting the zone and tilting the ice a bit in the right direction. Savoie has potential but I’m not convinced he was going to be a fit in Buffalo. Still not sure it’s great asset management to part with him, but the Sabres are having a hard time getting anybody in trades it seems so they likely were forced to overpay here.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
I do think news like this is cool. I have a daughter myself who is just getting her feet wet in several sports. However, when these things become not news for women and/or minorities is when we’ll have made some real progress.
Todem
Footballguy
McCloud sure loves to skate around the rink and not do much else of anything. That's my opinion on him after watching him in the post season.
There can be only one!!!
Skipdog77
Footballguy
100% agree.
The Big Donkey
Footballguy
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"I’m told the Stanley Cup contending & cap spending @NYRangers offer of $88M / 11M AAV has been rejected by G Shesterkin. Igor has rejected the highest Goalie contract in @NHL
history."
Todem
Footballguy
Sitting in my seat for opening night for your Stanley Cup Champion Florida Panthers.
It’s opening night baby!!!
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Yes that’s me the night we won the cup. I got to celebrate and party with our boys till 5AM.
Top 3 moment in my life.
It’s opening night baby!!!
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Yes that’s me the night we won the cup. I got to celebrate and party with our boys till 5AM.
Top 3 moment in my life.
kupcho1
Footballguy
Can't wait to boo him in person tomorrow.x.com
"I’m told the Stanley Cup contending & cap spending @NYRangers offer of $88M / 11M AAV has been rejected by G Shesterkin. Igor has rejected the highest Goalie contract in @NHL
history."
