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***Official - 2025 Major League Baseball Thread (5 Viewers)
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rockaction
Footballguy
Red Sox swept by the Jays and looking bad doing it. Running into horrible outs. Verdugo showed up late on Sunday and was benched. Just a gutless, thoughtless, and heartless performance all weekend by the Mediocrities.
Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
I'd imagine Mets fans aren't too happy today, either.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
Are the Cubs a thing?
Encyclopedia Brown
Footballguy
The Athletic writers are saying that the only reason Verdugo hasn't been traded or released is because it would make the Betts trade look even worse than it already does.
rockaction
Footballguy
Reminds me of the tune they used to try and play to promote the Orioles when I lived in Maryland and got the local sports cable channel
Oriole baseball
I feel like a kid again
When I'm hangin' at the yard
Then there was "Oriole Magic," the disco track that they used to somehow try to pump fans up with. That was a doozy.
Anyway, all about the Orioles all the time.
Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
I'm an Orioles fan, so I'm cool with all of that.
rockaction
Footballguy
That's probably about right, but you can't look at the Betts deal as anything other than a carjacking, really. He was gone after the year. They weren't going to pay him. Stupidly, one might surmise. But they weren't and everybody knew that they either wouldn't pay him or he wanted out. One of the two.
Can't really fault the GM for that. Maybe he could have gotten better prospects. I don't know because I'm a fan and not privy to those conversations.
rockaction
Footballguy
Word. Hence my last line. I figured you were. You brought up the Mets series and have spoken about the O's before, I think.
Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
I haven't had much to speak about recently
rockaction
Footballguy
I haven't had much to speak about recently
It’s been a minute, hasn’t it?
Senor Schmutzig
Footballguy
White Sox Clubhouse = Flaming Dumpster Fire
It would be nice if this evoked some change within that organization. It's been a cluster for a long while and needs to be blown up.
EVP, GM, owner, everyone...
It would be nice if this evoked some change within that organization. It's been a cluster for a long while and needs to be blown up.
EVP, GM, owner, everyone...
BeTheMatch
Footballguy
You guys hear about this Orioles announcer being suspended for pointing out the team had lost a lot to the Rays the past few years?
I mean, what in the actual...?
I mean, what in the actual...?
rockaction
Footballguy
Seriously, owners and entities like that can go jump rope. Those regional networks are homerism hotbeds and the owners that make tons of money off of them seek to control the content put forth by all their employees during the broadcasts.
NESN has that problem with the Red Sox. The owners of the Sox own the network, so all you get is sunshine and lollipops up the wazoo, never valid criticism of a mediocre team that's been mediocre for a few years and sits in the middle of the pack for payroll expenditures. Sounds like the Orioles are sensitive about their place in payroll expenditures, too, because they suspended this guy because he made them "sound cheap."
It's sad that it's that way. It's certainly not journalism as we knew it.
The Big Donkey
Footballguy
Carlos Rodon and his 6/$162mm contract back on the IL. smooth signing Cashman.
6 games
1-4
7.33 ERA
6 games
1-4
7.33 ERA
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Raging weasel
Footballguy
That a bunch of crap. Be nice if the Tigers hired him, our broadcast team sucks
ChiefD
Footballguy
Yeah, saw that. Most ridiculous thing I have seen in awhile.
Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
It's an embarrassment.
He quoted a stat given to him by the team's PR staff (guess who they work for?). All he said was that Baltimore had won more games in Tampa this year than the previous 3 years combined. That's it; that's what he said.
They just start getting some attention back from a fanbase driven to apathy, then do this. Angelos and his minions are a disgrace.
I have never heard Kevin Brown call a game because I can't (legally) get MASN where I live. Apparently, I'm out of market. Well, except for when I try to throw $100 at MLB TV for an a la carte Orioles package and they tell me I'm in-market so can't get it. I'm 120 miles away from Baltimore with another MLB team smack dab in between.
Don Quixote
Footballguy
Angelos also got rid of Jon Miller back in the day because he did not think he was enough of a homer.
Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
If there had been an internet like today, there would have been on-line riots when Miller left. I would have led them.
I don't expect journalism out of team announcers. I loved Chuck Thompson, who was such a homer he could make Mark Belanger's anemic BA seem like he was Rod Carew - "he's hitting a SOLID .220"
rockaction
Footballguy
Always were. Nothing's changed. When I lived in Maryland, I -- of course -- read the Washington Post with Boswell, Wilbon, and Kornheiser back when they were writing and sports journalism was still a thing rather than rooting for the team you cover. Anyway, I never got tired of a good Angelos bashing. I just remember it was always so skeevy, what he'd done that year. I read it with schadenfreude as a long-suffering Sox fan.
Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
I think the kid is worse than the old man, rock. He's dumb as a box of rocks.
rockaction
Footballguy
Lethal combination of dumb, rich, venal, and in power, huh? The old man at least wasn't stupid. And spent money at first. Like gobs of it. They weren't good, but they had high payrolls for a brief period of time. He loved the attention until they started to stink with that high payroll. Then it wasn't fun anymore.
shuke
Black Ice Skeptic
Saw this on Twitter and thought it was a joke.
rockaction
Footballguy
Nope. Very serious. The Sox telecast was talking about it tonight.
I can see the owner now. "We pwned that guy, amirite? We showed him!"
Oof and ouch. This is why people have a hard time in other walks of life believing what mass media reports on. They see how the sausage gets made in moments like these. Faceless corporate entities and billions of dollars backing a party line that will not be crossed nor dissent tolerated.
Rubbish.
The Big Donkey
Footballguy
Aaron Boone with a good one. this might be better than anything Piniella did.
rockaction
Footballguy
Overdone, overwrought, last place.
The Red Sox, meanwhile, are getting utterly curbstomped by the Kansas City Royals. The Royals have stolen about four bases since I started eating dinner. The Sox just stink of mediocrity and passionless baseball. Fold the tents now boys, no playoffs again this year.
eta* Whatever happened to that Giants fan kodycutter? Didn't he used root for the Yanks? Hmmmm...
Encyclopedia Brown
Footballguy
The Polar Bear has tormented the Cubs these past few days.
Raging weasel
Footballguy
No hitter by Lorenzen!
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
Greatest deadline deal ever
Insein
Footballguy
Looks pretty good so far.
Senor Schmutzig
Footballguy
See Rick Hahn/GM of Chicago White Sox
10 years
Record - 716-846
One division title
2-5 Playoff record
Don Quixote
Footballguy
I’d share a link, but don’t want to risk getting banned here… lots on the internet though.
Capella
Footballguy
My friend texted me mid-game (I was at a movie) “horrible news about Wander” — I figured he broke his leg or something. Turned out to be 500 times worse.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
Ugh. Awful. Wtf, Wander.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
And yesterday was a Franco themed SnapBack hat giveaway for kids 14 and under. The irony.
scorchy
Footballguy
Not sure why I clicked on the baseball thread but sorry I missed out on Orioles talk.
I grew up a die-hard O's fan from the time I could talk. Went to the '79 ALCS when I was just 6 years old and got my first heartbreak thanks to the "We Are A Family" Pirates a few weeks later. Spent summer nights listening to them on the radio or, later, watching them on HTS. I think I cried when they traded Eddie Murray. I played Earl Weaver Baseball religiously on my crappy PC. In college, I would still call my grandmother once-a-week in September and April to talk about the Birds. And then, Angelos fired John Miller. And Davey Johnson. And they kept signing complete a-holes like Albert Belle. At that point, I had moved to Philly and the Phillies were atrocious. I started buying $5 seats in the Vet upper deck with a friend - back then you almost had the whole section to yourself. The Phils were always my national league team and thanks to Angelos, I had no qualms at all about switching my lifelong allegiance from the O's to the Phightins.
Now I'm back in Baltimore and go to 5-6 Orioles games (and 1-2 Phillies games) a year. Every time I think maybe I can root for the Birds again, Angelos pulls another stunt like the Kevin Brown thing. Makes me sad.
rockaction
Footballguy
Wander hasn't been convicted of anything yet. Let's pump the brakes on this. Kissing a fourteen year-old on the cheek isn't a crime the last I heard. And he obviously doesn't represent himself well due to his appearance and probably lack of English skills. This is something we should be extra careful about. Too many false allegations and rumors turned out to have no merit.
Let's hold off the lynch mobs.
Let's hold off the lynch mobs.
rockaction
Footballguy
So did I. That and MicroLeague Baseball, the stat/sim game. Both were regularly played in my household.
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
agree. From what very little I’ve read on this, it looks like the girl is quite a bit older than 14
rockaction
Footballguy
Oh, I heard 14 per the rumor. I'm still not ready to either determine that
a) he was in a relationship with her
b) it was inappropriate/sexual
c) she was not of legal age
I do not know enough about the statutory rape laws of Florida or the controlling jurisdiction to make a comment. He could indeed be in serious trouble if he had sexual relations with a fourteen year-old. I'm gathering that if she was sixteen or seventeen, one must be 24 or older or consent is enough and rape charges are for naught. He's 22. That's in Florida and from a cursory glance. That may not even be the controlling jurisdiction, so speculation is a tricky thing regardless.
Anyway, hopefully we can get back to baseball talk. An unfortunate situation for the Rays and their club, and maybe an unfortunate accusation for Wander. We'll see whether or not he's in serious trouble with both MLB and the law. But only time and information will bear that out.
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FatMax
Member
This Giants fan is happy about that. I can't imagine a Giants game without Miller.
I don't know if you're an Athletic subscriber, but Andrew Baggarly (Giants beat writer) interviewed Miller about the Kevin Brown fiasco, and also about his dealings with the Angelos family. It's a good read. If not a subscriber, let me know and I'll message or email you.
Jon Miller reacts to the Orioles’ banishment of Kevin Brown: ‘I don’t get it’
Miller was unceremoniously let go by the Orioles after the 1996 season. He calls it "the best thing that ever happened."
theathletic.com
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
No, 14 is what’s being reported in places. But there are pictures online of course . We will all find out eventually I guess
scorchy
Footballguy
Thanks, Max. I even read the quotes in John Miller voice.
This Giants fan is happy about that. I can't imagine a Giants game without Miller.
I don't know if you're an Athletic subscriber, but Andrew Baggarly (Giants beat writer) interviewed Miller about the Kevin Brown fiasco, and also about his dealings with the Angelos family. It's a good read. If not a subscriber, let me know and I'll message or email you.
Jon Miller reacts to the Orioles’ banishment of Kevin Brown: ‘I don’t get it’
Miller was unceremoniously let go by the Orioles after the 1996 season. He calls it "the best thing that ever happened."
AAABatteries
Footballguy
Raging weasel
Footballguy
That trade helped both teams at the time and favored the Tigers for the first 2 years.
ChiefD
Footballguy
Smoltz was amazing. 200+ wins and THEN dominated as a closer. That dude was my favorite pitcher outta that whole group. Maddox included.
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
can someone give me cliffs notes.? all i can see online is about "social media speculation" with an underage girl.
