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Elly used a torpedo bat last night. 7 RBI. Not bad.
This got me thinking (always a dangerous thing) if the torpedo bat could be patented or trademarked. A cursory read says no (can't patent a shape).
Imagine the competitive advantage it would confer if a team could exclude other teams from using it.
 
Elly used a torpedo bat last night. 7 RBI. Not bad.
This got me thinking (always a dangerous thing) if the torpedo bat could be patented or trademarked. A cursory read says no (can't patent a shape).
Imagine the competitive advantage it would confer if a team could exclude other teams from using it.
Since MLB is a closed league and the teams are franchises I wonder if MLB would own the patent and not the team…?

I don’t know what the rules are even if you could patent something like this.
 
GB Elly. Had him in all of my DFS lineups last night. After Chris Paddock started me off with a solid -13 points and I thought I was dead in the water, ended up winning every league. :towelwave:
 
Saw Devers in a post game interview and I'm not trying to be mean but I don't think he could pass Joe Bryant's fitness test. And I'm not kidding. I've seen less bloat at an Insane Clown Posse concert.

He’s been a little doughy for a while but it does look like he’s put on an additional 10-15, particularly around his waistline. Not a big deal if he’s hitting but becomes more of a focus if he’s not. Plenty of top hitters have been “thick” in the past (Gwynn, Fielder,Puckett, Ortiz etc) so not sure that even has anything to do with it. His pre swing stance just looks crazy odd. His right foot is now outside the batters box. So much movement just to get into position to hit.
Miguel Cabrera anyone?
 
Good thing the Red Sox didn't attempt to sign Mookie because we couldn't pay both Mookie and Devers. That worked out well, huh? Holy cow. I can't really tell if he's doughy and fat nor do I know if he's pouting about not playing third, but man, if he is I'll just say I can't relate to modern baseball players in the least.

I guess separating monetary concerns from the enjoyment of the product and taking the business side out of any fan analysis is better for the fan's state of mind and enjoyment (it puts one's concentrations on enjoying what is beautiful about the game rather than what is mercenarial, excessive, and ruined by ego), but it's awfully hard to do that in this case because the amounts we're talking about are probably akin to certain countries' entire operating budgets for the ten fiscal years that Devers has signed his $313,500,000M contract for.

I could give him a pro tip on how to approach the media and talk to them, but that would probably be unwelcome and he'd rather show the surly and confused side of himself that conveys his displeasure at moving positions and allows us to see his chagrined emotional state and negotiating posture therefrom (play me at third or trade me?).

Jesus, I have so much to say to that, but I ain't paying the bills and I ain't on the field. wikkid, come back. That fan unionization thing doesn't sound nearly as ridiculous.
How a team allows a generational talent like Mookie to walk for this pile of dough is beyond ridiculous.

Choke on him Boston.

And he will be fine…..it’s extremely early lol.
 
I don't expect too many highlights for the White Sox this year, but besides the fact that they are 2-2 on the season and lost those two by a total of two runs, I'm at least a little optimistic about the overall watchability of the Southsiders. Last year was a real suckfest and the overall mood of the team showed it. They weren't fun to watch because they were horrible and they acted like they didn't want to be there day after day. While this year's bunch may be as skilled as a typical AAA team, they at least want to show up every day and make it somewhat exciting. And I like Will Venable's strategy of bringing up some small ball to manufacture runs because their offense will also be pretty awful.

And there's this:

The White Sox are the fourth team to have a starting pitcher go five-plus innings and not allow an earned run in each of their first four games of a season since earned runs became an official stat in both leagues (1913), joining the 2019 Blue Jays, the 2013 Giants, and the 1976 Brewers.

Considering they had 6 pitchers undergo TH surgery in ONE MONTH of spring training, it's amazing that the remainder were able to put together this kind of start.
 
I don't expect too many highlights for the White Sox this year, but besides the fact that they are 2-2 on the season and lost those two by a total of two runs, I'm at least a little optimistic about the overall watchability of the Southsiders. Last year was a real suckfest and the overall mood of the team showed it. They weren't fun to watch because they were horrible and they acted like they didn't want to be there day after day. While this year's bunch may be as skilled as a typical AAA team, they at least want to show up every day and make it somewhat exciting. And I like Will Venable's strategy of bringing up some small ball to manufacture runs because their offense will also be pretty awful.

And there's this:

The White Sox are the fourth team to have a starting pitcher go five-plus innings and not allow an earned run in each of their first four games of a season since earned runs became an official stat in both leagues (1913), joining the 2019 Blue Jays, the 2013 Giants, and the 1976 Brewers.

Considering they had 6 pitchers undergo TH surgery in ONE MONTH of spring training, it's amazing that the remainder were able to put together this kind of start.
Excited to see Shane Smith.
 
The crazy stat going around on twitter right now.

Devers 15k’s in 19 AB’s
Tony Gywnn 1995. 15k’s in 585 AB’s.

I never get tired of the TG stats.
You and me both. My all time favorite player across all sports.
Tony Gwynn had 287 plate appearances against Greg Maddux, Tom Glavine, and John Smoltz. He struck out 3 times and hit .381.

For his career against all pitchers Gwynn hit .302 with two strikes. The next best mark in baseball was .260.

He had more 4 hit games (45) in his career than multi-strike-out games.

Nolan Ryan struck him out 9 times. That's the most of any pitcher. Gwynn still hit over .300 against him.

He could have gone 0-1172 at the end of his career and still been a .300 hitter

On April 30, 1996 Gwynn had his third straight game without a hit. It was the first time in 3 years that Gwynn had gone more than two games without a hit, and the first in 5 years that he had gone more than 11 at-bats without getting a base hit. For five years from July of 1991 to April 1996, Gwynn had never had an 0-for-12 at any time.

He struck out 434 times in his career. That's an average of 29 per season.

He has over 100 more career doubles (543) than strikeouts.

Gwynn hit .300 or better for 19 consecutive seasons, the longest run in National League history.

In his final season, at age 41, he was limited to 112 PAs because his entire left leg was wrecked, his right hamstring was strained/torn, he had a bad right knee, and a torn meniscus. He hit .324
 
I would like to make Devers feel a little better about his wretched start.....

Wilson Contreras 0-18
Dylan Crews 0-15
Carlos Correa 0-12
Kris Bryant 0-10

Some guys, maybe they don't like the cold? Maybe they weren't ready coming out of spring? Maybe some are upset about losing their jobs? Maybe some need to mix in a salad?
 
I would like to make Devers feel a little better about his wretched start.....

Wilson Contreras 0-18
Dylan Crews 0-15
Carlos Correa 0-12
Kris Bryant 0-10

Some guys, maybe they don't like the cold? Maybe they weren't ready coming out of spring? Maybe some are upset about losing their jobs? Maybe some need to mix in a salad?
Don’t forget 3 time reigning batting champ Arraez starting 0-15. Though he did get a hit in AB 16.
 
The crazy stat going around on twitter right now.

Devers 15k’s in 19 AB’s
Tony Gywnn 1995. 15k’s in 585 AB’s.

I never get tired of the TG stats.
You and me both. My all time favorite player across all sports.
Tony Gwynn had 287 plate appearances against Greg Maddux, Tom Glavine, and John Smoltz. He struck out 3 times and hit .381.

For his career against all pitchers Gwynn hit .302 with two strikes. The next best mark in baseball was .260.

He had more 4 hit games (45) in his career than multi-strike-out games.

Nolan Ryan struck him out 9 times. That's the most of any pitcher. Gwynn still hit over .300 against him.

He could have gone 0-1172 at the end of his career and still been a .300 hitter

On April 30, 1996 Gwynn had his third straight game without a hit. It was the first time in 3 years that Gwynn had gone more than two games without a hit, and the first in 5 years that he had gone more than 11 at-bats without getting a base hit. For five years from July of 1991 to April 1996, Gwynn had never had an 0-for-12 at any time.

He struck out 434 times in his career. That's an average of 29 per season.

He has over 100 more career doubles (543) than strikeouts.

Gwynn hit .300 or better for 19 consecutive seasons, the longest run in National League history.

In his final season, at age 41, he was limited to 112 PAs because his entire left leg was wrecked, his right hamstring was strained/torn, he had a bad right knee, and a torn meniscus. He hit .324
Unpopular opinion from a guy who watched hundreds of Padres games during his career:

He was a great singles hitter. Unfortunately, he would have been a more valuable player if he sacrificed a little average and hit for more power, which he was capable of. He spoke to Ted Williams about this, who told him to pull the ball more and hit home runs. He chose not to.

This also resulted in him also being top 20 all time in grounding into double plays. After his first few years when he gained weight, he basically became a guy who got on first and clogged up the bases. In his 19 year career, he only drove in 100 runs once, and only scored 100 runs twice (and never after 1987).
 
I would like to make Devers feel a little better about his wretched start.....

Wilson Contreras 0-18
Dylan Crews 0-15
Carlos Correa 0-12
Kris Bryant 0-10

Some guys, maybe they don't like the cold? Maybe they weren't ready coming out of spring? Maybe some are upset about losing their jobs? Maybe some need to mix in a salad?
Don’t forget Mayson Winn
 
The crazy stat going around on twitter right now.

Devers 15k’s in 19 AB’s
Tony Gywnn 1995. 15k’s in 585 AB’s.

I never get tired of the TG stats.
You and me both. My all time favorite player across all sports.
Tony Gwynn had 287 plate appearances against Greg Maddux, Tom Glavine, and John Smoltz. He struck out 3 times and hit .381.

For his career against all pitchers Gwynn hit .302 with two strikes. The next best mark in baseball was .260.

He had more 4 hit games (45) in his career than multi-strike-out games.

Nolan Ryan struck him out 9 times. That's the most of any pitcher. Gwynn still hit over .300 against him.

He could have gone 0-1172 at the end of his career and still been a .300 hitter

On April 30, 1996 Gwynn had his third straight game without a hit. It was the first time in 3 years that Gwynn had gone more than two games without a hit, and the first in 5 years that he had gone more than 11 at-bats without getting a base hit. For five years from July of 1991 to April 1996, Gwynn had never had an 0-for-12 at any time.

He struck out 434 times in his career. That's an average of 29 per season.

He has over 100 more career doubles (543) than strikeouts.

Gwynn hit .300 or better for 19 consecutive seasons, the longest run in National League history.

In his final season, at age 41, he was limited to 112 PAs because his entire left leg was wrecked, his right hamstring was strained/torn, he had a bad right knee, and a torn meniscus. He hit .324
Unpopular opinion from a guy who watched hundreds of Padres games during his career:

He was a great singles hitter. Unfortunately, he would have been a more valuable player if he sacrificed a little average and hit for more power, which he was capable of. He spoke to Ted Williams about this, who told him to pull the ball more and hit home runs. He chose not to.

This also resulted in him also being top 20 all time in grounding into double plays. After his first few years when he gained weight, he basically became a guy who got on first and clogged up the bases. In his 19 year career, he only drove in 100 runs once, and only scored 100 runs twice (and never after 1987).

All true, but feeling the need to come to my favorite player’s defense, and also coming from a guy who saw him play live hundreds of times (mostly at Jack Murphy), he also set the club record for steals in a season (had over 300 in his career) won 5 gold gloves and played on some of the worst teams in the league year over year (certainly hurting his RBI and runs scored metrics). He was also a fantastic role model and universally known as one of the nicest guys around. Oh and pioneered studying tape.
 
The crazy stat going around on twitter right now.

Devers 15k’s in 19 AB’s
Tony Gywnn 1995. 15k’s in 585 AB’s.

I never get tired of the TG stats.
You and me both. My all time favorite player across all sports.
Tony Gwynn had 287 plate appearances against Greg Maddux, Tom Glavine, and John Smoltz. He struck out 3 times and hit .381.

For his career against all pitchers Gwynn hit .302 with two strikes. The next best mark in baseball was .260.

He had more 4 hit games (45) in his career than multi-strike-out games.

Nolan Ryan struck him out 9 times. That's the most of any pitcher. Gwynn still hit over .300 against him.

He could have gone 0-1172 at the end of his career and still been a .300 hitter

On April 30, 1996 Gwynn had his third straight game without a hit. It was the first time in 3 years that Gwynn had gone more than two games without a hit, and the first in 5 years that he had gone more than 11 at-bats without getting a base hit. For five years from July of 1991 to April 1996, Gwynn had never had an 0-for-12 at any time.

He struck out 434 times in his career. That's an average of 29 per season.

He has over 100 more career doubles (543) than strikeouts.

Gwynn hit .300 or better for 19 consecutive seasons, the longest run in National League history.

In his final season, at age 41, he was limited to 112 PAs because his entire left leg was wrecked, his right hamstring was strained/torn, he had a bad right knee, and a torn meniscus. He hit .324
Unpopular opinion from a guy who watched hundreds of Padres games during his career:

He was a great singles hitter. Unfortunately, he would have been a more valuable player if he sacrificed a little average and hit for more power, which he was capable of. He spoke to Ted Williams about this, who told him to pull the ball more and hit home runs. He chose not to.

This also resulted in him also being top 20 all time in grounding into double plays. After his first few years when he gained weight, he basically became a guy who got on first and clogged up the bases. In his 19 year career, he only drove in 100 runs once, and only scored 100 runs twice (and never after 1987).

All true, but feeling the need to come to my favorite player’s defense, and also coming from a guy who saw him play live hundreds of times (mostly at Jack Murphy), he also set the club record for steals in a season (had over 300 in his career) won 5 gold gloves and played on some of the worst teams in the league year over year (certainly hurting his RBI and runs scored metrics). He was also a fantastic role model and universally known as one of the nicest guys around. Oh and pioneered studying tape.
super nice guy. he was the co-owner of San Diego School of Baseball with Bob Cluck, who was a pitching coach for the A's and Astros. I used to date Bob's daughter so got to meet a bunch of players (had tequila shots and played poker with Glavine).

No doubt #19 was an icon. Just wish he would have sacrificed 20 points of BA for more runs and RBIs. A 2 or 3 hitter who doesn't score or drive in runs isn't doing you much good, even at .330
 
The crazy stat going around on twitter right now.

Devers 15k’s in 19 AB’s
Tony Gywnn 1995. 15k’s in 585 AB’s.

I never get tired of the TG stats.
You and me both. My all time favorite player across all sports.
Tony Gwynn had 287 plate appearances against Greg Maddux, Tom Glavine, and John Smoltz. He struck out 3 times and hit .381.

For his career against all pitchers Gwynn hit .302 with two strikes. The next best mark in baseball was .260.

He had more 4 hit games (45) in his career than multi-strike-out games.

Nolan Ryan struck him out 9 times. That's the most of any pitcher. Gwynn still hit over .300 against him.

He could have gone 0-1172 at the end of his career and still been a .300 hitter

On April 30, 1996 Gwynn had his third straight game without a hit. It was the first time in 3 years that Gwynn had gone more than two games without a hit, and the first in 5 years that he had gone more than 11 at-bats without getting a base hit. For five years from July of 1991 to April 1996, Gwynn had never had an 0-for-12 at any time.

He struck out 434 times in his career. That's an average of 29 per season.

He has over 100 more career doubles (543) than strikeouts.

Gwynn hit .300 or better for 19 consecutive seasons, the longest run in National League history.

In his final season, at age 41, he was limited to 112 PAs because his entire left leg was wrecked, his right hamstring was strained/torn, he had a bad right knee, and a torn meniscus. He hit .324
Unpopular opinion from a guy who watched hundreds of Padres games during his career:

He was a great singles hitter. Unfortunately, he would have been a more valuable player if he sacrificed a little average and hit for more power, which he was capable of. He spoke to Ted Williams about this, who told him to pull the ball more and hit home runs. He chose not to.

This also resulted in him also being top 20 all time in grounding into double plays. After his first few years when he gained weight, he basically became a guy who got on first and clogged up the bases. In his 19 year career, he only drove in 100 runs once, and only scored 100 runs twice (and never after 1987).

All true, but feeling the need to come to my favorite player’s defense, and also coming from a guy who saw him play live hundreds of times (mostly at Jack Murphy), he also set the club record for steals in a season (had over 300 in his career) won 5 gold gloves and played on some of the worst teams in the league year over year (certainly hurting his RBI and runs scored metrics). He was also a fantastic role model and universally known as one of the nicest guys around. Oh and pioneered studying tape.
He also upset the players union by giving the Padres the home team discount when he could have upped the league salaries. Respect for that.
There was also a time where we was not considered "clutch" with most of his hits coming on bad teams that never had the stress of competing. But that might just be a tear down narrative and not true.

And :banned: to the Murph. Saw many games there between the Pads and Chargers. Before it became the Q and then left us for ever....
 
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Saw both the Padres and Chargers at the Murph. 90s was a magical time to be in San Diego, easily one of the best cities in the country.

Buddy and I were watching NFL games at Junior Seau's sports bar, enjoying life. Bartender makes an announcement - $50 for a ticket to the SNF game between Denver and the Chargers, includes a bus ride to the Murph and back WITH beers included. $50!!!!

We both jumped at that. Tickets were corner end zone, down low. Got to watch Elway from the pocket and man....that dude was special. Can't recall the Chargers' scrub QB but he wasn't the season starter. He was atrocious.

WATTBA
 
And :banned: to the Murph. Saw many games there between the Pads and Chargers. Before it became the Q and then left us for ever....
In middle school I lived in those pink apartments on the hillside next to The Murph. Outfield tickets were also 5 bucks then so saw TONS OF GAMES on the cheap. Plus side then too was attendance was **** so after a few innings you could sneak down to field level and watch the rest of the game. So much fun
 
Saw both the Padres and Chargers at the Murph. 90s was a magical time to be in San Diego, easily one of the best cities in the country.
As I’m a lifetime SD’er you’ll get zero argument from me on this. Though I will add that it still is.

Oh, no doubt. It's just a far more expensive magical place than it was back then.

My buddy bought his condo for like 70 grand close to Sea World. It was small but nice and today would go for what?

Was back there in 2019.....still amazing but it seems gone are the days of cheap eats, drinks and living.
 
And :banned: to the Murph. Saw many games there between the Pads and Chargers. Before it became the Q and then left us for ever....
In middle school I lived in those pink apartments on the hillside next to The Murph. Outfield tickets were also 5 bucks then so saw TONS OF GAMES on the cheap. Plus side then too was attendance was **** so after a few innings you could sneak down to field level and watch the rest of the game. So much fun

They let us in FOR FREE in the 7th inning to try and watch Maguire hit a bomb in his chase for the record.
 
Saw both the Padres and Chargers at the Murph. 90s was a magical time to be in San Diego, easily one of the best cities in the country.
As I’m a lifetime SD’er you’ll get zero argument from me on this. Though I will add that it still is.

Oh, no doubt. It's just a far more expensive magical place than it was back then.

My buddy bought his condo for like 70 grand close to Sea World. It was small but nice and today would go for what?

Was back there in 2019.....still amazing but it seems gone are the days of cheap eats, drinks and living.
No doubt. I was also lucky enough to be a part of the growth in the Gaslamp. Ran the largest restaurant/bar/nightclub from ‘99 to ‘12. That was a blast and back when the Gaslamp was special.
 
And :banned: to the Murph. Saw many games there between the Pads and Chargers. Before it became the Q and then left us for ever....
In middle school I lived in those pink apartments on the hillside next to The Murph. Outfield tickets were also 5 bucks then so saw TONS OF GAMES on the cheap. Plus side then too was attendance was **** so after a few innings you could sneak down to field level and watch the rest of the game. So much fun

They let us in FOR FREE in the 7th inning to try and watch Maguire hit a bomb in his chase for the record.
Oh yeah the free after 7th deal. Forgot about that.
 
Saw both the Padres and Chargers at the Murph. 90s was a magical time to be in San Diego, easily one of the best cities in the country.
As I’m a lifetime SD’er you’ll get zero argument from me on this. Though I will add that it still is.

Oh, no doubt. It's just a far more expensive magical place than it was back then.

My buddy bought his condo for like 70 grand close to Sea World. It was small but nice and today would go for what?

Was back there in 2019.....still amazing but it seems gone are the days of cheap eats, drinks and living.
No doubt. I was also lucky enough to be a part of the growth in the Gaslamp. Ran the largest restaurant/bar/nightclub from ‘99 to ‘12. That was a blast and back when the Gaslamp was special.

Sweet! I was an Ocean Beach/Pacific Beach guy. Loved it there. There was a band called Breedlove that I loved listening to - damn, I'd like to travel back in time.
 
Saw both the Padres and Chargers at the Murph. 90s was a magical time to be in San Diego, easily one of the best cities in the country.
As I’m a lifetime SD’er you’ll get zero argument from me on this. Though I will add that it still is.

Oh, no doubt. It's just a far more expensive magical place than it was back then.

My buddy bought his condo for like 70 grand close to Sea World. It was small but nice and today would go for what?

Was back there in 2019.....still amazing but it seems gone are the days of cheap eats, drinks and living.
No doubt. I was also lucky enough to be a part of the growth in the Gaslamp. Ran the largest restaurant/bar/nightclub from ‘99 to ‘12. That was a blast and back when the Gaslamp was special.
I opened Brewski's on 5th and K before they got sued and had to rename it Riptide Brewery. I'm guessing that was '93-94ish.
 
Saw both the Padres and Chargers at the Murph. 90s was a magical time to be in San Diego, easily one of the best cities in the country.
As I’m a lifetime SD’er you’ll get zero argument from me on this. Though I will add that it still is.

Oh, no doubt. It's just a far more expensive magical place than it was back then.

My buddy bought his condo for like 70 grand close to Sea World. It was small but nice and today would go for what?

Was back there in 2019.....still amazing but it seems gone are the days of cheap eats, drinks and living.
No doubt. I was also lucky enough to be a part of the growth in the Gaslamp. Ran the largest restaurant/bar/nightclub from ‘99 to ‘12. That was a blast and back when the Gaslamp was special.

Sweet! I was an Ocean Beach/Pacific Beach guy. Loved it there. There was a band called Breedlove that I loved listening to - damn, I'd like to travel back in time.
I lived on Pescadaro in OB.
 
And :banned: to the Murph. Saw many games there between the Pads and Chargers. Before it became the Q and then left us for ever....
In middle school I lived in those pink apartments on the hillside next to The Murph. Outfield tickets were also 5 bucks then so saw TONS OF GAMES on the cheap. Plus side then too was attendance was **** so after a few innings you could sneak down to field level and watch the rest of the game. So much fun
Don't remember the pink ones. My Dad lived in the apts to the west of the stadium around 1990. Walked to a few games from there. Terrible yet nostalgic stadium hahaha.

Got to be in the dugout pregame in '85. Still have the ball signed by them all (Garvey, Gwynn, Higgins, Templeton, etc). Didn't go to the other dugout. The older me wants to kick my shy 11 year old's arse since it was the METS over there. But oh well.
 

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