**** Official Aaron Rodgers injury thread ***** (1 Viewer)

[Interseptopus]

Wow. I am surprised, very. Good thing I didn't get my info before kickoff last night. Guess my buddy owes me a beer

 

[ghostguy123]

Sorry...anyone claiming they are keeping him on the roster so they can mess with people's gameplanning is an idiot.

Very much agree.

And I will go out on a limb and say that your position is that Rodgers will play when he is cleared, and not a second sooner, and that the Packers feel he has a good chance to be cleared this season, so putting him on IR would be giving up.

Warm or cold on that?

 

[sho nuff]

Sorry...anyone claiming they are keeping him on the roster so they can mess with people's gameplanning is an idiot.

Very much agree.

And I will go out on a limb and say that your position is that Rodgers will play when he is cleared, and not a second sooner, and that the Packers feel he has a good chance to be cleared this season, so putting him on IR would be giving up.

Warm or cold on that?

I think they are keeping that option open given still being alive in the division.

 

[sho nuff]

Sorry...anyone claiming they are keeping him on the roster so they can mess with people's gameplanning is an idiot.

So other than calling people idiots, what is your take on this issue and how the Packers have managed things? I always hear you take pot shots, but I never actually hear you take a position.

I called people with the foolish thought of keeping an active roster spot for the sole purpose of messing with game planning idiots.

I stand by that.

Its a team beat up by injuries...roster spots are at a pretty big premium right now.

But you can keep claiming that I have just taken pot shots...its as funny as when you were claiming it was the other people in this thread that were trolling and not you.

My position is that the team is still mathematically alive and a possible playoff team and they are not going to shut him down at this point and that he himself would want to play not matter what position they are in.

I don't think the team has handled anything poorly. They are not around to make internet fantasy football people happy. They are there to make the best possible decisions for the Green Bay Packers. Both for this week and going forward this season and future seasons.

 

[General Tso]

Sorry...anyone claiming they are keeping him on the roster so they can mess with people's gameplanning is an idiot.

So other than calling people idiots, what is your take on this issue and how the Packers have managed things? I always hear you take pot shots, but I never actually hear you take a position.

I called people with the foolish thought of keeping an active roster spot for the sole purpose of messing with game planning idiots.

I stand by that.

Its a team beat up by injuries...roster spots are at a pretty big premium right now.

But you can keep claiming that I have just taken pot shots...its as funny as when you were claiming it was the other people in this thread that were trolling and not you.

My position is that the team is still mathematically alive and a possible playoff team and they are not going to shut him down at this point and that he himself would want to play not matter what position they are in.

I don't think the team has handled anything poorly. They are not around to make internet fantasy football people happy. They are there to make the best possible decisions for the Green Bay Packers. Both for this week and going forward this season and future seasons.

Kudos for stating an opinion. I think there's enough smoke here to seriously question the Packers medical staff. They've long been criticized for being too conservative. I'm sensing that at this point Rodgers is even starting to question them. Why no scan today? I know they have to be somewhat judicious with these things but by all standards it looked like this was the week to bring Rodgers back. He practiced a lot and apparently was pain free.

 

[Insein]

A lot of butt hurt people who's only complaint is that their fantasy team was hurt by Rodgers injury. Packers never for one moment had anyone other than their team in mind when they evaluated Rodgers during this injury and made all decisions based on what was best for them. Some people lose all rationality when a big name player goes down and hurts their fantasy team.

He got hurt week 9. You had plenty of time to find a replacement. If you gambled and aquired him, well you lost a bet that you knew was high risk high reward. Simple as that.

 

[ghostguy123]

Who exactly has criticized the packers medical staff? Fantasy players who want Cobb to play? Not sure that counts.

Cobb was very unlikely to play again this year, especially in the regular season, and this was pretty obvious as soon as we knew he had a broken leg. Unlike rodgers, he needs to work himself back from his muscles going through atrophy, but that break itself was worse and takes longer to heal than rodgers.

Not to mention the packers and medical staff probably want Cobb to stay hopeful instead if thinking he isn't going to play, so he works as hard as possible to get back.

 

[General Tso]

A lot of butt hurt people who's only complaint is that their fantasy team was hurt by Rodgers injury. Packers never for one moment had anyone other than their team in mind when they evaluated Rodgers during this injury and made all decisions based on what was best for them. Some people lose all rationality when a big name player goes down and hurts their fantasy team.

He got hurt week 9. You had plenty of time to find a replacement. If you gambled and aquired him, well you lost a bet that you knew was high risk high reward. Simple as that.

It goes well beyond fantasy. This is a must win game for the Packers.

 

[Insein]

A lot of butt hurt people who's only complaint is that their fantasy team was hurt by Rodgers injury. Packers never for one moment had anyone other than their team in mind when they evaluated Rodgers during this injury and made all decisions based on what was best for them. Some people lose all rationality when a big name player goes down and hurts their fantasy team.

He got hurt week 9. You had plenty of time to find a replacement. If you gambled and aquired him, well you lost a bet that you knew was high risk high reward. Simple as that.

It goes well beyond fantasy. This is a must win game for the Packers.

I'm glad you're thinking of them for them.

 

[General Tso]

A lot of butt hurt people who's only complaint is that their fantasy team was hurt by Rodgers injury. Packers never for one moment had anyone other than their team in mind when they evaluated Rodgers during this injury and made all decisions based on what was best for them. Some people lose all rationality when a big name player goes down and hurts their fantasy team.

He got hurt week 9. You had plenty of time to find a replacement. If you gambled and aquired him, well you lost a bet that you knew was high risk high reward. Simple as that.

It goes well beyond fantasy. This is a must win game for the Packers.

I'm glad you're thinking of them for them.

Lol. Tis the season for caring.

 

[Phenix]

A lot of butt hurt people who's only complaint is that their fantasy team was hurt by Rodgers injury. Packers never for one moment had anyone other than their team in mind when they evaluated Rodgers during this injury and made all decisions based on what was best for them. Some people lose all rationality when a big name player goes down and hurts their fantasy team.

He got hurt week 9. You had plenty of time to find a replacement. If you gambled and aquired him, well you lost a bet that you knew was high risk high reward. Simple as that.

To think people care if Rodgers is fully healed shows you're out of touch with what people really care about on this site during wk 15 or the past few weeks. While its a football site, the majority of people do not care about his healing or him period unless its about fantasy points.

Get over it and stop thinking people actually care if he is fully healed. I do not care if he is healed, he is a football player 6 weeks removed from a broken bone who should be playing. I do not care about the risk of reinjury, its football you risk injury every play.

LET ME BE CLEAR - I DO NOT CARE ABOUT HIS INJURY AND ONLY CARE ABOUT MY FANTASY TEAM.

Does he care if I am healed from my broken bones? Nope, not unless it affected him?

Stop thinking people actually care about Rodgers more than their team, it shocks me you still think this 19 pages in.

 

[Smack Tripper]

Rodgers defenders are losing legs to stand on here. A 4-6 week injury is at 6. Whats a week? Who knows. But life is short in the NFL, and the way this league breaks, when you can get in that tournament, you take your shot.

 

[Insein]

A lot of butt hurt people who's only complaint is that their fantasy team was hurt by Rodgers injury. Packers never for one moment had anyone other than their team in mind when they evaluated Rodgers during this injury and made all decisions based on what was best for them. Some people lose all rationality when a big name player goes down and hurts their fantasy team.

He got hurt week 9. You had plenty of time to find a replacement. If you gambled and aquired him, well you lost a bet that you knew was high risk high reward. Simple as that.

To think people care if Rodgers is fully healed shows you're out of touch with what people really care about on this site during wk 15 or the past few weeks. While its a football site, the majority of people do not care about his healing or him period unless its about fantasy points.

Get over it and stop thinking people actually care if he is fully healed. I do not care if he is healed, he is a football player 6 weeks removed from a broken bone who should be playing. I do not care about the risk of reinjury, its football you risk injury every play.

LET ME BE CLEAR - I DO NOT CARE ABOUT HIS INJURY AND ONLY CARE ABOUT MY FANTASY TEAM.

Does he care if I am healed from my broken bones? Nope, not unless it affected him?

Stop thinking people actually care about Rodgers more than their team, it shocks me you still think this 19 pages in.

I'm referring more to those calling the GB medical staff or front office in question for not giving them more information to help their fantasy teams. Or the people questioning Aaron's fortitude because he won't play through a broken collarbone.

So thank you captain obvious for stating that people on a fantasy web site care about their fantasy teams. Doesn't mean they also have to be completely idiotic as well. If people actually thought about (like some did when this happened in week 9), they could have realistically expected this outcome instead of shouting to the world how unfair it is that no one thinks of their fantasy twam in these situations.

 

[Phenix]

Rodgers defenders are losing legs to stand on here. A 4-6 week injury is at 6. Whats a week? Who knows. But life is short in the NFL, and the way this league breaks, when you can get in that tournament, you take your shot.

This.

He should be playing, he can walk and throw. WTF is he not playing?

Reinjury? Ask anyone if they care. If he gets hurt again oh well, he has millions. They just won't draft him.

 

[Phenix]

A lot of butt hurt people who's only complaint is that their fantasy team was hurt by Rodgers injury. Packers never for one moment had anyone other than their team in mind when they evaluated Rodgers during this injury and made all decisions based on what was best for them. Some people lose all rationality when a big name player goes down and hurts their fantasy team.

He got hurt week 9. You had plenty of time to find a replacement. If you gambled and aquired him, well you lost a bet that you knew was high risk high reward. Simple as that.

To think people care if Rodgers is fully healed shows you're out of touch with what people really care about on this site during wk 15 or the past few weeks. While its a football site, the majority of people do not care about his healing or him period unless its about fantasy points.

Get over it and stop thinking people actually care if he is fully healed. I do not care if he is healed, he is a football player 6 weeks removed from a broken bone who should be playing. I do not care about the risk of reinjury, its football you risk injury every play.

LET ME BE CLEAR - I DO NOT CARE ABOUT HIS INJURY AND ONLY CARE ABOUT MY FANTASY TEAM.

Does he care if I am healed from my broken bones? Nope, not unless it affected him?

Stop thinking people actually care about Rodgers more than their team, it shocks me you still think this 19 pages in.

I'm referring more to those calling the GB medical staff or front office in question for not giving them more information to help their fantasy teams. Or the people questioning Aaron's fortitude because he won't play through a broken collarbone.

So thank you captain obvious for stating that people on a fantasy web site care about their fantasy teams. Doesn't mean they also have to be completely idiotic as well. If people actually thought about (like some did when this happened in week 9), they could have realistically expected this outcome instead of shouting to the world how unfair it is that no one thinks of their fantasy twam in these situations.

Not obvious enough for you to not understand in the first 19 pages.

I understand they do not care about our teams, but for anyone to think we care about his reinury of a collarbone is out of their mind.

 

[Bankerguy]

I always look at Vegas with QB injuries, currently the line is heavy favouring Dallas (-7.5 I believe). Meaning Vegas knows 12 is not going to be playing. Follow the money....just my $0.02.

Props to you Bankerdude. And as an aside, I love it when a guy pimps his own posts ; )

As a Rodgers owner I was hoping for him, especially against my crappy Cowboys defense. Oh well, Big Ben it is.

 

[Insein]

A lot of butt hurt people who's only complaint is that their fantasy team was hurt by Rodgers injury. Packers never for one moment had anyone other than their team in mind when they evaluated Rodgers during this injury and made all decisions based on what was best for them. Some people lose all rationality when a big name player goes down and hurts their fantasy team.

He got hurt week 9. You had plenty of time to find a replacement. If you gambled and aquired him, well you lost a bet that you knew was high risk high reward. Simple as that.

To think people care if Rodgers is fully healed shows you're out of touch with what people really care about on this site during wk 15 or the past few weeks. While its a football site, the majority of people do not care about his healing or him period unless its about fantasy points.

Get over it and stop thinking people actually care if he is fully healed. I do not care if he is healed, he is a football player 6 weeks removed from a broken bone who should be playing. I do not care about the risk of reinjury, its football you risk injury every play.

LET ME BE CLEAR - I DO NOT CARE ABOUT HIS INJURY AND ONLY CARE ABOUT MY FANTASY TEAM.

Does he care if I am healed from my broken bones? Nope, not unless it affected him?

Stop thinking people actually care about Rodgers more than their team, it shocks me you still think this 19 pages in.

I'm referring more to those calling the GB medical staff or front office in question for not giving them more information to help their fantasy teams. Or the people questioning Aaron's fortitude because he won't play through a broken collarbone.So thank you captain obvious for stating that people on a fantasy web site care about their fantasy teams. Doesn't mean they also have to be completely idiotic as well. If people actually thought about (like some did when this happened in week 9), they could have realistically expected this outcome instead of shouting to the world how unfair it is that no one thinks of their fantasy twam in these situations.

Not obvious enough for you to not understand in the first 19 pages.

I understand they do not care about our teams, but for anyone to think we care about his reinury of a collarbone is out of their mind.

For anyone to think that the Packers don't care about reinjuring their franchise qb is out of their mind.

 

[LawFitz]

Phenix, the key point isn't about what we care about. It's about predicting what the Packers care about. They clearly care more about ARod's long term health than their chances of making the playoffs this season.

 

[The Kerminator]

There's a lot of stupid in this thread.

 

[General Tso]

A lot of butt hurt people who's only complaint is that their fantasy team was hurt by Rodgers injury. Packers never for one moment had anyone other than their team in mind when they evaluated Rodgers during this injury and made all decisions based on what was best for them. Some people lose all rationality when a big name player goes down and hurts their fantasy team.

He got hurt week 9. You had plenty of time to find a replacement. If you gambled and aquired him, well you lost a bet that you knew was high risk high reward. Simple as that.

To think people care if Rodgers is fully healed shows you're out of touch with what people really care about on this site during wk 15 or the past few weeks. While its a football site, the majority of people do not care about his healing or him period unless its about fantasy points.

Get over it and stop thinking people actually care if he is fully healed. I do not care if he is healed, he is a football player 6 weeks removed from a broken bone who should be playing. I do not care about the risk of reinjury, its football you risk injury every play.

LET ME BE CLEAR - I DO NOT CARE ABOUT HIS INJURY AND ONLY CARE ABOUT MY FANTASY TEAM.

Does he care if I am healed from my broken bones? Nope, not unless it affected him?

Stop thinking people actually care about Rodgers more than their team, it shocks me you still think this 19 pages in.

I'm referring more to those calling the GB medical staff or front office in question for not giving them more information to help their fantasy teams. Or the people questioning Aaron's fortitude because he won't play through a broken collarbone.So thank you captain obvious for stating that people on a fantasy web site care about their fantasy teams. Doesn't mean they also have to be completely idiotic as well. If people actually thought about (like some did when this happened in week 9), they could have realistically expected this outcome instead of shouting to the world how unfair it is that no one thinks of their fantasy twam in these situations.

Not obvious enough for you to not understand in the first 19 pages.

I understand they do not care about our teams, but for anyone to think we care about his reinury of a collarbone is out of their mind.

For anyone to think that the Packers don't care about reinjuring their franchise qb is out of their mind.

Oh they care alright. On that we all agree. I just happen to believe they are being way too cautious.

It will be interesting to see what happens next week. If he doesn't get a scan next week then they have some 'splaining to do. Because they would have effectively shut him down for the regular season without any concrete medical evidence. If that's the case, then they should have known 6 weeks ago that a regular season comeback wasn't happening under any circumstances and IR'd him to free up a much needed roster spot.

 

[Mile High]

A lot of butt hurt people who's only complaint is that their fantasy team was hurt by Rodgers injury. Packers never for one moment had anyone other than their team in mind when they evaluated Rodgers during this injury and made all decisions based on what was best for them. Some people lose all rationality when a big name player goes down and hurts their fantasy team.

He got hurt week 9. You had plenty of time to find a replacement. If you gambled and aquired him, well you lost a bet that you knew was high risk high reward. Simple as that.

To think people care if Rodgers is fully healed shows you're out of touch with what people really care about on this site during wk 15 or the past few weeks. While its a football site, the majority of people do not care about his healing or him period unless its about fantasy points.

Get over it and stop thinking people actually care if he is fully healed. I do not care if he is healed, he is a football player 6 weeks removed from a broken bone who should be playing. I do not care about the risk of reinjury, its football you risk injury every play.

LET ME BE CLEAR - I DO NOT CARE ABOUT HIS INJURY AND ONLY CARE ABOUT MY FANTASY TEAM.

Does he care if I am healed from my broken bones? Nope, not unless it affected him?

Stop thinking people actually care about Rodgers more than their team, it shocks me you still think this 19 pages in.

I'm referring more to those calling the GB medical staff or front office in question for not giving them more information to help their fantasy teams. Or the people questioning Aaron's fortitude because he won't play through a broken collarbone.So thank you captain obvious for stating that people on a fantasy web site care about their fantasy teams. Doesn't mean they also have to be completely idiotic as well. If people actually thought about (like some did when this happened in week 9), they could have realistically expected this outcome instead of shouting to the world how unfair it is that no one thinks of their fantasy twam in these situations.

Not obvious enough for you to not understand in the first 19 pages.

I understand they do not care about our teams, but for anyone to think we care about his reinury of a collarbone is out of their mind.

For anyone to think that the Packers don't care about reinjuring their franchise qb is out of their mind.

Oh they care alright. On that we all agree. I just happen to believe they are being way too cautious.

It will be interesting to see what happens next week. If he doesn't get a scan next week then they have some 'splaining to do. Because they would have effectively shut him down for the regular season without any concrete medical evidence. If that's the case, then they should have known 6 weeks ago that a regular season comeback wasn't happening under any circumstances and IR'd him to free up a much needed roster spot.

Needed by who? GB or your FF team?

 

[The Kerminator]

A lot of butt hurt people who's only complaint is that their fantasy team was hurt by Rodgers injury. Packers never for one moment had anyone other than their team in mind when they evaluated Rodgers during this injury and made all decisions based on what was best for them. Some people lose all rationality when a big name player goes down and hurts their fantasy team.

He got hurt week 9. You had plenty of time to find a replacement. If you gambled and aquired him, well you lost a bet that you knew was high risk high reward. Simple as that.

To think people care if Rodgers is fully healed shows you're out of touch with what people really care about on this site during wk 15 or the past few weeks. While its a football site, the majority of people do not care about his healing or him period unless its about fantasy points.

Get over it and stop thinking people actually care if he is fully healed. I do not care if he is healed, he is a football player 6 weeks removed from a broken bone who should be playing. I do not care about the risk of reinjury, its football you risk injury every play.

LET ME BE CLEAR - I DO NOT CARE ABOUT HIS INJURY AND ONLY CARE ABOUT MY FANTASY TEAM.

Does he care if I am healed from my broken bones? Nope, not unless it affected him?

Stop thinking people actually care about Rodgers more than their team, it shocks me you still think this 19 pages in.

I'm referring more to those calling the GB medical staff or front office in question for not giving them more information to help their fantasy teams. Or the people questioning Aaron's fortitude because he won't play through a broken collarbone.So thank you captain obvious for stating that people on a fantasy web site care about their fantasy teams. Doesn't mean they also have to be completely idiotic as well. If people actually thought about (like some did when this happened in week 9), they could have realistically expected this outcome instead of shouting to the world how unfair it is that no one thinks of their fantasy twam in these situations.

Not obvious enough for you to not understand in the first 19 pages.

I understand they do not care about our teams, but for anyone to think we care about his reinury of a collarbone is out of their mind.

For anyone to think that the Packers don't care about reinjuring their franchise qb is out of their mind.

Oh they care alright. On that we all agree. I just happen to believe they are being way too cautious.

It will be interesting to see what happens next week. If he doesn't get a scan next week then they have some 'splaining to do. Because they would have effectively shut him down for the regular season without any concrete medical evidence. If that's the case, then they should have known 6 weeks ago that a regular season comeback wasn't happening under any circumstances and IR'd him to free up a much needed roster spot.

Where do you get the 'if he doesn't get a scan' from? All reports say he has gotten weekly scans, if not more than one a week.

 

[General Tso]

A lot of butt hurt people who's only complaint is that their fantasy team was hurt by Rodgers injury. Packers never for one moment had anyone other than their team in mind when they evaluated Rodgers during this injury and made all decisions based on what was best for them. Some people lose all rationality when a big name player goes down and hurts their fantasy team.

He got hurt week 9. You had plenty of time to find a replacement. If you gambled and aquired him, well you lost a bet that you knew was high risk high reward. Simple as that.

To think people care if Rodgers is fully healed shows you're out of touch with what people really care about on this site during wk 15 or the past few weeks. While its a football site, the majority of people do not care about his healing or him period unless its about fantasy points.

Get over it and stop thinking people actually care if he is fully healed. I do not care if he is healed, he is a football player 6 weeks removed from a broken bone who should be playing. I do not care about the risk of reinjury, its football you risk injury every play.

LET ME BE CLEAR - I DO NOT CARE ABOUT HIS INJURY AND ONLY CARE ABOUT MY FANTASY TEAM.

Does he care if I am healed from my broken bones? Nope, not unless it affected him?

Stop thinking people actually care about Rodgers more than their team, it shocks me you still think this 19 pages in.

I'm referring more to those calling the GB medical staff or front office in question for not giving them more information to help their fantasy teams. Or the people questioning Aaron's fortitude because he won't play through a broken collarbone.So thank you captain obvious for stating that people on a fantasy web site care about their fantasy teams. Doesn't mean they also have to be completely idiotic as well. If people actually thought about (like some did when this happened in week 9), they could have realistically expected this outcome instead of shouting to the world how unfair it is that no one thinks of their fantasy twam in these situations.

Not obvious enough for you to not understand in the first 19 pages.

I understand they do not care about our teams, but for anyone to think we care about his reinury of a collarbone is out of their mind.

For anyone to think that the Packers don't care about reinjuring their franchise qb is out of their mind.

Oh they care alright. On that we all agree. I just happen to believe they are being way too cautious.It will be interesting to see what happens next week. If he doesn't get a scan next week then they have some 'splaining to do. Because they would have effectively shut him down for the regular season without any concrete medical evidence. If that's the case, then they should have known 6 weeks ago that a regular season comeback wasn't happening under any circumstances and IR'd him to free up a much needed roster spot.

Needed by who? GB or your FF team?

Ugh. Why do you and Insein keep insisting this is about my fantasy team? I have very capable QB's thank you. In one League I have Peyton Manning and in the other I have ARod, Cutler and McCown. I'm doing quite alright with Erin warming the bench thank you. He wasn't doing all that great before he was injured. At least now I don't have a decision to make every week between him and Cutler.

 

[General Tso]

A lot of butt hurt people who's only complaint is that their fantasy team was hurt by Rodgers injury. Packers never for one moment had anyone other than their team in mind when they evaluated Rodgers during this injury and made all decisions based on what was best for them. Some people lose all rationality when a big name player goes down and hurts their fantasy team.

He got hurt week 9. You had plenty of time to find a replacement. If you gambled and aquired him, well you lost a bet that you knew was high risk high reward. Simple as that.

To think people care if Rodgers is fully healed shows you're out of touch with what people really care about on this site during wk 15 or the past few weeks. While its a football site, the majority of people do not care about his healing or him period unless its about fantasy points.

Get over it and stop thinking people actually care if he is fully healed. I do not care if he is healed, he is a football player 6 weeks removed from a broken bone who should be playing. I do not care about the risk of reinjury, its football you risk injury every play.

LET ME BE CLEAR - I DO NOT CARE ABOUT HIS INJURY AND ONLY CARE ABOUT MY FANTASY TEAM.

Does he care if I am healed from my broken bones? Nope, not unless it affected him?

Stop thinking people actually care about Rodgers more than their team, it shocks me you still think this 19 pages in.

I'm referring more to those calling the GB medical staff or front office in question for not giving them more information to help their fantasy teams. Or the people questioning Aaron's fortitude because he won't play through a broken collarbone.So thank you captain obvious for stating that people on a fantasy web site care about their fantasy teams. Doesn't mean they also have to be completely idiotic as well. If people actually thought about (like some did when this happened in week 9), they could have realistically expected this outcome instead of shouting to the world how unfair it is that no one thinks of their fantasy twam in these situations.

Not obvious enough for you to not understand in the first 19 pages.

I understand they do not care about our teams, but for anyone to think we care about his reinury of a collarbone is out of their mind.

For anyone to think that the Packers don't care about reinjuring their franchise qb is out of their mind.

Oh they care alright. On that we all agree. I just happen to believe they are being way too cautious.It will be interesting to see what happens next week. If he doesn't get a scan next week then they have some 'splaining to do. Because they would have effectively shut him down for the regular season without any concrete medical evidence. If that's the case, then they should have known 6 weeks ago that a regular season comeback wasn't happening under any circumstances and IR'd him to free up a much needed roster spot.

Where do you get the 'if he doesn't get a scan' from? All reports say he has gotten weekly scans, if not more than one a week.

Wrong. He did NOT get a scan this week. That's what makes no sense and is the reason some of us are pissed.

 

[Mile High]

A lot of butt hurt people who's only complaint is that their fantasy team was hurt by Rodgers injury. Packers never for one moment had anyone other than their team in mind when they evaluated Rodgers during this injury and made all decisions based on what was best for them. Some people lose all rationality when a big name player goes down and hurts their fantasy team.

He got hurt week 9. You had plenty of time to find a replacement. If you gambled and aquired him, well you lost a bet that you knew was high risk high reward. Simple as that.

To think people care if Rodgers is fully healed shows you're out of touch with what people really care about on this site during wk 15 or the past few weeks. While its a football site, the majority of people do not care about his healing or him period unless its about fantasy points.

Get over it and stop thinking people actually care if he is fully healed. I do not care if he is healed, he is a football player 6 weeks removed from a broken bone who should be playing. I do not care about the risk of reinjury, its football you risk injury every play.

LET ME BE CLEAR - I DO NOT CARE ABOUT HIS INJURY AND ONLY CARE ABOUT MY FANTASY TEAM.

Does he care if I am healed from my broken bones? Nope, not unless it affected him?

Stop thinking people actually care about Rodgers more than their team, it shocks me you still think this 19 pages in.

I'm referring more to those calling the GB medical staff or front office in question for not giving them more information to help their fantasy teams. Or the people questioning Aaron's fortitude because he won't play through a broken collarbone.So thank you captain obvious for stating that people on a fantasy web site care about their fantasy teams. Doesn't mean they also have to be completely idiotic as well. If people actually thought about (like some did when this happened in week 9), they could have realistically expected this outcome instead of shouting to the world how unfair it is that no one thinks of their fantasy twam in these situations.

Not obvious enough for you to not understand in the first 19 pages.

I understand they do not care about our teams, but for anyone to think we care about his reinury of a collarbone is out of their mind.

For anyone to think that the Packers don't care about reinjuring their franchise qb is out of their mind.

Oh they care alright. On that we all agree. I just happen to believe they are being way too cautious.It will be interesting to see what happens next week. If he doesn't get a scan next week then they have some 'splaining to do. Because they would have effectively shut him down for the regular season without any concrete medical evidence. If that's the case, then they should have known 6 weeks ago that a regular season comeback wasn't happening under any circumstances and IR'd him to free up a much needed roster spot.

Needed by who? GB or your FF team?

Ugh. Why do you and Insein keep insisting this is about my fantasy team? I have very capable QB's thank you. In one League I have Peyton Manning and in the other I have ARod, Cutler and McCown. I'm doing quite alright with Erin warming the bench thank you. He wasn't doing all that great before he was injured. At least now I don't have a decision to make every week between him and Cutler.

So it is about your FF team. Because GB doesn't need to IR him to free up that much needed 53rd roster spot.

 

[The Kerminator]

Wrong. He did NOT get a scan this week. That's what makes no sense and is the reason some of us are pissed.

Got a link to back that up? You could try this one:

http://www.espnwisconsin.com/common/page.php?feed=2&id=12121&is_corp=1

WILDE: Keep away is right callBy JASON WILDE
jwilde@espnwisconsin.com
GREEN BAY – Less than 24 hours after Aaron Rodgers had cracked his collarbone, Mike McCarthy was a maelstrom of emotions. We all know that the Green Bay Packers coach is never in the mood for drama, but after fearing the worst about his franchise quarterback the night before, he was now hoping for the best.

It was the day after the unthinkable had happened, and McCarthy was unusually forthcoming. Not only had the coach confessed to peeking at the Lambeau Field tunnel hoping to see No. 12 reemerge after the injury to lead the team to victory over the Chicago Bears on Monday Night Football, but after getting a gloom-and-doom initial diagnosis on the night of Nov. 4 that the injury was likely season-ending, the sleep-deprived McCarthy had spoken with team physician Dr. Patrick McKenzie that Tuesday morning, Nov. 5.

Now, McCarthy was putting Rodgers’ injury into the “week-to-week” category, and while he knew Rodgers wasn’t going to play the following Sunday against the Philadelphia Eagles, he wasn’t immediately ruling him out.

Then, McCarthy said this:

“Let's not kid ourselves. If he walked in your office and asked for the ball on Saturday, what would you do?”

Well, 39 days later – as it turned out, it was a Friday, not a Saturday – Aaron Rodgers did exactly that. He told McCarthy he wanted the ball. And that’s when Rodgers found out exactly what his coach would do.

He’d say no.

For his own good.

“Hey, it’s not the easiest thing to sit there and tell your franchise quarterback he can’t play in the game when he wants to play in the game,” McCarthy said. “This is clearly a decision that’s made in the best interest of Aaron Rodgers.”

As a result, Rodgers has been ruled out for Sunday’s game at Dallas. He will miss his sixth consecutive game, and he’ll have to hope that the 6-6-1 Packers can win in Dallas with Matt Flynn at quarterback and him on the sideline. And he is not happy about it.

“Frankly, I think if Aaron was asked the question, he wants to play. He feels he’s ready to play,” McCarthy told reporters Friday in his usual, end-of-the-week post-practice news conference – which was carried live on ESPN. “Based on what he’s accomplished physically and what he was able to do at practice on Wednesday and Thursday, he’s ready to go.

“He’s very disappointed. He’s frustrated. But speaking with Dr. McKenzie, this is the right decision.”

When reached Friday evening, Rodgers declined comment. Asked how he felt, Rodgers said, “sad.”

McCarthy said that he, McKenzie and Rodgers met Friday morning. After Rodgers had practiced well on Wednesday and Thursday and experienced little if any pain – in a stark departure from the previous week, when simple activities during the Wednesday practice had made it clear to Rodgers that he was not in fact physically ready to play – the quarterback went into that meeting with hopes of being allowed to play.

An NFL source said that Rodgers’ collarbone was scanned on Thursday – presumably after he spoke at his locker following Thursday’s practice – and that he, McKenzie and McCarthy went over the results of that scan Friday. (McCarthy when asked during his press conference if Rodgers had been scanned Friday, replied, “I’m not going to get into scans and this and that. He was not scanned this morning.”)

Although the scan did not show a fully healed collarbone, Rodgers was willing to accept whatever risk would be associated with playing. But even though he was, McKenzie and McCarthy were not willing to put the franchise's $110 million man in harm's way.

Thus, after saying that he would need to take the starter’s reps in practice Friday in order to be ready to play against the Cowboys, Rodgers watched as Flynn and backup Scott Tolzien worked instead. Rodgers was a spectator for the 11-on-11 period open to reporters, wearing a knit stocking cap instead of his helmet.

“Frankly, it’s been a difficult morning going through the conversation with Aaron and Dr. McKenzie,” McCarthy said.

It is admirable that the über competitive Rodgers wants to play. And let’s be clear: He wants to play because he still believes his team is a playoff-caliber team, and because he feels responsible for it. (“This is my team,” he said on his weekly radio show on 540 ESPN and ESPNWisconsin.com on Dec. 3. “I'm the leader of this team and I want to be out there.”)

He certainly doesn’t need to play to prove something to that small, vocal, misguided faction of Packers fans who are questioning his toughness and willingness to play in pain. Those foolish souls are referred to how he played the entire second half of a 2006 blowout loss to the New England Patriots on a broken foot after the ultimate tough guy, Brett Favre, was knocked from the game with an elbow injury.

Or they can go back to the 2008 game against Atlanta when, after suffering a dislocated shoulder the previous week, Rodgers was listed as doubtful but went down to the Don Hutson Center a few hours before kickoff, threw passes and struck a deal with McKenzie to let him play. Rodgers completed 25 of 37 passes for 313 yards with three touchdowns and one interception (109.4 rating) in a 27-24 loss.

“The hurdle that I know Aaron wanted to get over, he achieved it this week. He feels really good,” McCarthy said. “He felt like he was ready to play. But listening to all of the conversation, all of the facts and evaluation, it’s in our best interest as a football team, as an organization, for Aaron not to play in this game.”

As much as Rodgers might disagree, McCarthy is right. Given the Cowboys’ porous defense and history of December swoons, it’s not inconceivable that Flynn could lead the Packers to victory. If he somehow does, it would set up another showdown a week from now on whether Rodgers should be permitted to play against the Pittsburgh Steelers on Dec. 22.

Since the day after the injury occurred, Rodgers has been candid to a fault about his feelings, his hopes for a speedy recovery and his desire to play regardless of the Packers’ record or playoff hopes. He should be mad, frustrated and disappointed that he isn’t playing Sunday. If he wasn’t, you’d wonder what was wrong with him.

The easy play for McCarthy would have been to let Rodgers have his way and give him the ball. Instead, he made the unpopular decision and ticked off not only his quarterback but many of his team’s fans. The cost-benefit analysis long-term says it was the right call. If he faces the same decision next week, with the playoffs still in play, it'll be interesting to see what he does.

There have been times this year when McCarthy definitely deserved criticism. But this isn’t one of them.

 

[General Tso]

Wrong. He did NOT get a scan this week. That's what makes no sense and is the reason some of us are pissed.

Got a link to back that up? You could try this one:

http://www.espnwisconsin.com/common/page.php?feed=2&id=12121&is_corp=1

WILDE: Keep away is right call

By JASON WILDE

jwilde@espnwisconsin.com

GREEN BAY Less than 24 hours after Aaron Rodgers had cracked his collarbone, Mike McCarthy was a maelstrom of emotions. We all know that the Green Bay Packers coach is never in the mood for drama, but after fearing the worst about his franchise quarterback the night before, he was now hoping for the best.

It was the day after the unthinkable had happened, and McCarthy was unusually forthcoming. Not only had the coach confessed to peeking at the Lambeau Field tunnel hoping to see No. 12 reemerge after the injury to lead the team to victory over the Chicago Bears on Monday Night Football, but after getting a gloom-and-doom initial diagnosis on the night of Nov. 4 that the injury was likely season-ending, the sleep-deprived McCarthy had spoken with team physician Dr. Patrick McKenzie that Tuesday morning, Nov. 5.

Now, McCarthy was putting Rodgers injury into the week-to-week category, and while he knew Rodgers wasnt going to play the following Sunday against the Philadelphia Eagles, he wasnt immediately ruling him out.

Then, McCarthy said this:

Let's not kid ourselves. If he walked in your office and asked for the ball on Saturday, what would you do?

Well, 39 days later as it turned out, it was a Friday, not a Saturday Aaron Rodgers did exactly that. He told McCarthy he wanted the ball. And thats when Rodgers found out exactly what his coach would do.

Hed say no.

For his own good.

Hey, its not the easiest thing to sit there and tell your franchise quarterback he cant play in the game when he wants to play in the game, McCarthy said. This is clearly a decision thats made in the best interest of Aaron Rodgers.

As a result, Rodgers has been ruled out for Sundays game at Dallas. He will miss his sixth consecutive game, and hell have to hope that the 6-6-1 Packers can win in Dallas with Matt Flynn at quarterback and him on the sideline. And he is not happy about it.

Frankly, I think if Aaron was asked the question, he wants to play. He feels hes ready to play, McCarthy told reporters Friday in his usual, end-of-the-week post-practice news conference which was carried live on ESPN. Based on what hes accomplished physically and what he was able to do at practice on Wednesday and Thursday, hes ready to go.

Hes very disappointed. Hes frustrated. But speaking with Dr. McKenzie, this is the right decision.

When reached Friday evening, Rodgers declined comment. Asked how he felt, Rodgers said, sad.

McCarthy said that he, McKenzie and Rodgers met Friday morning. After Rodgers had practiced well on Wednesday and Thursday and experienced little if any pain in a stark departure from the previous week, when simple activities during the Wednesday practice had made it clear to Rodgers that he was not in fact physically ready to play the quarterback went into that meeting with hopes of being allowed to play.

An NFL source said that Rodgers collarbone was scanned on Thursday presumably after he spoke at his locker following Thursdays practice and that he, McKenzie and McCarthy went over the results of that scan Friday. (McCarthy when asked during his press conference if Rodgers had been scanned Friday, replied, Im not going to get into scans and this and that. He was not scanned this morning.)

Although the scan did not show a fully healed collarbone, Rodgers was willing to accept whatever risk would be associated with playing. But even though he was, McKenzie and McCarthy were not willing to put the franchise's $110 million man in harm's way.

Thus, after saying that he would need to take the starters reps in practice Friday in order to be ready to play against the Cowboys, Rodgers watched as Flynn and backup Scott Tolzien worked instead. Rodgers was a spectator for the 11-on-11 period open to reporters, wearing a knit stocking cap instead of his helmet.

Frankly, its been a difficult morning going through the conversation with Aaron and Dr. McKenzie, McCarthy said.

It is admirable that the über competitive Rodgers wants to play. And lets be clear: He wants to play because he still believes his team is a playoff-caliber team, and because he feels responsible for it. (This is my team, he said on his weekly radio show on 540 ESPN and ESPNWisconsin.com on Dec. 3. I'm the leader of this team and I want to be out there.)

He certainly doesnt need to play to prove something to that small, vocal, misguided faction of Packers fans who are questioning his toughness and willingness to play in pain. Those foolish souls are referred to how he played the entire second half of a 2006 blowout loss to the New England Patriots on a broken foot after the ultimate tough guy, Brett Favre, was knocked from the game with an elbow injury.

Or they can go back to the 2008 game against Atlanta when, after suffering a dislocated shoulder the previous week, Rodgers was listed as doubtful but went down to the Don Hutson Center a few hours before kickoff, threw passes and struck a deal with McKenzie to let him play. Rodgers completed 25 of 37 passes for 313 yards with three touchdowns and one interception (109.4 rating) in a 27-24 loss.

The hurdle that I know Aaron wanted to get over, he achieved it this week. He feels really good, McCarthy said. He felt like he was ready to play. But listening to all of the conversation, all of the facts and evaluation, its in our best interest as a football team, as an organization, for Aaron not to play in this game.

As much as Rodgers might disagree, McCarthy is right. Given the Cowboys porous defense and history of December swoons, its not inconceivable that Flynn could lead the Packers to victory. If he somehow does, it would set up another showdown a week from now on whether Rodgers should be permitted to play against the Pittsburgh Steelers on Dec. 22.

Since the day after the injury occurred, Rodgers has been candid to a fault about his feelings, his hopes for a speedy recovery and his desire to play regardless of the Packers record or playoff hopes. He should be mad, frustrated and disappointed that he isnt playing Sunday. If he wasnt, youd wonder what was wrong with him.

The easy play for McCarthy would have been to let Rodgers have his way and give him the ball. Instead, he made the unpopular decision and ticked off not only his quarterback but many of his teams fans. The cost-benefit analysis long-term says it was the right call. If he faces the same decision next week, with the playoffs still in play, it'll be interesting to see what he does.

There have been times this year when McCarthy definitely deserved criticism. But this isnt one of them.

Thanks for proving that King. It's the first report I have seen that indicates a scan was done. Not sure if the source is accurate or not, and why McCarthy would go out of his way to say a scan had not been done on Friday morning. If a scan was done, they should say that. It takes Rodgers and the coach off the hook.

 

[Insein]

Wrong. He did NOT get a scan this week. That's what makes no sense and is the reason some of us are pissed.

Got a link to back that up? You could try this one:

http://www.espnwisconsin.com/common/page.php?feed=2&id=12121&is_corp=1

WILDE: Keep away is right call

By JASON WILDE

jwilde@espnwisconsin.com

GREEN BAY Less than 24 hours after Aaron Rodgers had cracked his collarbone, Mike McCarthy was a maelstrom of emotions. We all know that the Green Bay Packers coach is never in the mood for drama, but after fearing the worst about his franchise quarterback the night before, he was now hoping for the best.

It was the day after the unthinkable had happened, and McCarthy was unusually forthcoming. Not only had the coach confessed to peeking at the Lambeau Field tunnel hoping to see No. 12 reemerge after the injury to lead the team to victory over the Chicago Bears on Monday Night Football, but after getting a gloom-and-doom initial diagnosis on the night of Nov. 4 that the injury was likely season-ending, the sleep-deprived McCarthy had spoken with team physician Dr. Patrick McKenzie that Tuesday morning, Nov. 5.

Now, McCarthy was putting Rodgers injury into the week-to-week category, and while he knew Rodgers wasnt going to play the following Sunday against the Philadelphia Eagles, he wasnt immediately ruling him out.

Then, McCarthy said this:

Let's not kid ourselves. If he walked in your office and asked for the ball on Saturday, what would you do?

Well, 39 days later as it turned out, it was a Friday, not a Saturday Aaron Rodgers did exactly that. He told McCarthy he wanted the ball. And thats when Rodgers found out exactly what his coach would do.

Hed say no.

For his own good.

Hey, its not the easiest thing to sit there and tell your franchise quarterback he cant play in the game when he wants to play in the game, McCarthy said. This is clearly a decision thats made in the best interest of Aaron Rodgers.

As a result, Rodgers has been ruled out for Sundays game at Dallas. He will miss his sixth consecutive game, and hell have to hope that the 6-6-1 Packers can win in Dallas with Matt Flynn at quarterback and him on the sideline. And he is not happy about it.

Frankly, I think if Aaron was asked the question, he wants to play. He feels hes ready to play, McCarthy told reporters Friday in his usual, end-of-the-week post-practice news conference which was carried live on ESPN. Based on what hes accomplished physically and what he was able to do at practice on Wednesday and Thursday, hes ready to go.

Hes very disappointed. Hes frustrated. But speaking with Dr. McKenzie, this is the right decision.

When reached Friday evening, Rodgers declined comment. Asked how he felt, Rodgers said, sad.

McCarthy said that he, McKenzie and Rodgers met Friday morning. After Rodgers had practiced well on Wednesday and Thursday and experienced little if any pain in a stark departure from the previous week, when simple activities during the Wednesday practice had made it clear to Rodgers that he was not in fact physically ready to play the quarterback went into that meeting with hopes of being allowed to play.

An NFL source said that Rodgers collarbone was scanned on Thursday presumably after he spoke at his locker following Thursdays practice and that he, McKenzie and McCarthy went over the results of that scan Friday. (McCarthy when asked during his press conference if Rodgers had been scanned Friday, replied, Im not going to get into scans and this and that. He was not scanned this morning.)

Although the scan did not show a fully healed collarbone, Rodgers was willing to accept whatever risk would be associated with playing. But even though he was, McKenzie and McCarthy were not willing to put the franchise's $110 million man in harm's way.

Thus, after saying that he would need to take the starters reps in practice Friday in order to be ready to play against the Cowboys, Rodgers watched as Flynn and backup Scott Tolzien worked instead. Rodgers was a spectator for the 11-on-11 period open to reporters, wearing a knit stocking cap instead of his helmet.

Frankly, its been a difficult morning going through the conversation with Aaron and Dr. McKenzie, McCarthy said.

It is admirable that the über competitive Rodgers wants to play. And lets be clear: He wants to play because he still believes his team is a playoff-caliber team, and because he feels responsible for it. (This is my team, he said on his weekly radio show on 540 ESPN and ESPNWisconsin.com on Dec. 3. I'm the leader of this team and I want to be out there.)

He certainly doesnt need to play to prove something to that small, vocal, misguided faction of Packers fans who are questioning his toughness and willingness to play in pain. Those foolish souls are referred to how he played the entire second half of a 2006 blowout loss to the New England Patriots on a broken foot after the ultimate tough guy, Brett Favre, was knocked from the game with an elbow injury.

Or they can go back to the 2008 game against Atlanta when, after suffering a dislocated shoulder the previous week, Rodgers was listed as doubtful but went down to the Don Hutson Center a few hours before kickoff, threw passes and struck a deal with McKenzie to let him play. Rodgers completed 25 of 37 passes for 313 yards with three touchdowns and one interception (109.4 rating) in a 27-24 loss.

The hurdle that I know Aaron wanted to get over, he achieved it this week. He feels really good, McCarthy said. He felt like he was ready to play. But listening to all of the conversation, all of the facts and evaluation, its in our best interest as a football team, as an organization, for Aaron not to play in this game.

As much as Rodgers might disagree, McCarthy is right. Given the Cowboys porous defense and history of December swoons, its not inconceivable that Flynn could lead the Packers to victory. If he somehow does, it would set up another showdown a week from now on whether Rodgers should be permitted to play against the Pittsburgh Steelers on Dec. 22.

Since the day after the injury occurred, Rodgers has been candid to a fault about his feelings, his hopes for a speedy recovery and his desire to play regardless of the Packers record or playoff hopes. He should be mad, frustrated and disappointed that he isnt playing Sunday. If he wasnt, youd wonder what was wrong with him.

The easy play for McCarthy would have been to let Rodgers have his way and give him the ball. Instead, he made the unpopular decision and ticked off not only his quarterback but many of his teams fans. The cost-benefit analysis long-term says it was the right call. If he faces the same decision next week, with the playoffs still in play, it'll be interesting to see what he does.

There have been times this year when McCarthy definitely deserved criticism. But this isnt one of them.

Thanks for proving that King. It's the first report I have seen that indicates a scan was done. Not sure if the source is accurate or not, and why McCarthy would go out of his way to say a scan had not been done on Friday morning. If a scan was done, they should say that. It takes Rodgers and the coach off the hook.

Because it was done Thursday.

 

[The Football Freak]

http://tracking.si.com/2013/12/12/aaron-rodgers-playing-week-15-cowboys-injury/

http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2013/12/12/aaron-rodgers-still-holding-out-hope-hell-play-sunday-for-packers/

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10126641/aaron-rodgers-green-bay-packers-gets-some-snaps-not-cleared

I don't know about that Thursday scan report. Here are three other reports that contradict that, which include more information than the article I posted yesterday from NFL.com. Is anyone other than Wilde reporting that? It certainly changes my opinion of the situation a bit if he is right and the rest of the reports are wrong.

 

[General Tso]

Wrong. He did NOT get a scan this week. That's what makes no sense and is the reason some of us are pissed.

Got a link to back that up? You could try this one:

http://www.espnwisconsin.com/common/page.php?feed=2&id=12121&is_corp=1

WILDE: Keep away is right call

By JASON WILDE

jwilde@espnwisconsin.com

GREEN BAY Less than 24 hours after Aaron Rodgers had cracked his collarbone, Mike McCarthy was a maelstrom of emotions. We all know that the Green Bay Packers coach is never in the mood for drama, but after fearing the worst about his franchise quarterback the night before, he was now hoping for the best.

It was the day after the unthinkable had happened, and McCarthy was unusually forthcoming. Not only had the coach confessed to peeking at the Lambeau Field tunnel hoping to see No. 12 reemerge after the injury to lead the team to victory over the Chicago Bears on Monday Night Football, but after getting a gloom-and-doom initial diagnosis on the night of Nov. 4 that the injury was likely season-ending, the sleep-deprived McCarthy had spoken with team physician Dr. Patrick McKenzie that Tuesday morning, Nov. 5.

Now, McCarthy was putting Rodgers injury into the week-to-week category, and while he knew Rodgers wasnt going to play the following Sunday against the Philadelphia Eagles, he wasnt immediately ruling him out.

Then, McCarthy said this:

Let's not kid ourselves. If he walked in your office and asked for the ball on Saturday, what would you do?

Well, 39 days later as it turned out, it was a Friday, not a Saturday Aaron Rodgers did exactly that. He told McCarthy he wanted the ball. And thats when Rodgers found out exactly what his coach would do.

Hed say no.

For his own good.

Hey, its not the easiest thing to sit there and tell your franchise quarterback he cant play in the game when he wants to play in the game, McCarthy said. This is clearly a decision thats made in the best interest of Aaron Rodgers.

As a result, Rodgers has been ruled out for Sundays game at Dallas. He will miss his sixth consecutive game, and hell have to hope that the 6-6-1 Packers can win in Dallas with Matt Flynn at quarterback and him on the sideline. And he is not happy about it.

Frankly, I think if Aaron was asked the question, he wants to play. He feels hes ready to play, McCarthy told reporters Friday in his usual, end-of-the-week post-practice news conference which was carried live on ESPN. Based on what hes accomplished physically and what he was able to do at practice on Wednesday and Thursday, hes ready to go.

Hes very disappointed. Hes frustrated. But speaking with Dr. McKenzie, this is the right decision.

When reached Friday evening, Rodgers declined comment. Asked how he felt, Rodgers said, sad.

McCarthy said that he, McKenzie and Rodgers met Friday morning. After Rodgers had practiced well on Wednesday and Thursday and experienced little if any pain in a stark departure from the previous week, when simple activities during the Wednesday practice had made it clear to Rodgers that he was not in fact physically ready to play the quarterback went into that meeting with hopes of being allowed to play.

An NFL source said that Rodgers collarbone was scanned on Thursday presumably after he spoke at his locker following Thursdays practice and that he, McKenzie and McCarthy went over the results of that scan Friday. (McCarthy when asked during his press conference if Rodgers had been scanned Friday, replied, Im not going to get into scans and this and that. He was not scanned this morning.)

Although the scan did not show a fully healed collarbone, Rodgers was willing to accept whatever risk would be associated with playing. But even though he was, McKenzie and McCarthy were not willing to put the franchise's $110 million man in harm's way.

Thus, after saying that he would need to take the starters reps in practice Friday in order to be ready to play against the Cowboys, Rodgers watched as Flynn and backup Scott Tolzien worked instead. Rodgers was a spectator for the 11-on-11 period open to reporters, wearing a knit stocking cap instead of his helmet.

Frankly, its been a difficult morning going through the conversation with Aaron and Dr. McKenzie, McCarthy said.

It is admirable that the über competitive Rodgers wants to play. And lets be clear: He wants to play because he still believes his team is a playoff-caliber team, and because he feels responsible for it. (This is my team, he said on his weekly radio show on 540 ESPN and ESPNWisconsin.com on Dec. 3. I'm the leader of this team and I want to be out there.)

He certainly doesnt need to play to prove something to that small, vocal, misguided faction of Packers fans who are questioning his toughness and willingness to play in pain. Those foolish souls are referred to how he played the entire second half of a 2006 blowout loss to the New England Patriots on a broken foot after the ultimate tough guy, Brett Favre, was knocked from the game with an elbow injury.

Or they can go back to the 2008 game against Atlanta when, after suffering a dislocated shoulder the previous week, Rodgers was listed as doubtful but went down to the Don Hutson Center a few hours before kickoff, threw passes and struck a deal with McKenzie to let him play. Rodgers completed 25 of 37 passes for 313 yards with three touchdowns and one interception (109.4 rating) in a 27-24 loss.

The hurdle that I know Aaron wanted to get over, he achieved it this week. He feels really good, McCarthy said. He felt like he was ready to play. But listening to all of the conversation, all of the facts and evaluation, its in our best interest as a football team, as an organization, for Aaron not to play in this game.

As much as Rodgers might disagree, McCarthy is right. Given the Cowboys porous defense and history of December swoons, its not inconceivable that Flynn could lead the Packers to victory. If he somehow does, it would set up another showdown a week from now on whether Rodgers should be permitted to play against the Pittsburgh Steelers on Dec. 22.

Since the day after the injury occurred, Rodgers has been candid to a fault about his feelings, his hopes for a speedy recovery and his desire to play regardless of the Packers record or playoff hopes. He should be mad, frustrated and disappointed that he isnt playing Sunday. If he wasnt, youd wonder what was wrong with him.

The easy play for McCarthy would have been to let Rodgers have his way and give him the ball. Instead, he made the unpopular decision and ticked off not only his quarterback but many of his teams fans. The cost-benefit analysis long-term says it was the right call. If he faces the same decision next week, with the playoffs still in play, it'll be interesting to see what he does.

There have been times this year when McCarthy definitely deserved criticism. But this isnt one of them.

Thanks for proving that King. It's the first report I have seen that indicates a scan was done. Not sure if the source is accurate or not, and why McCarthy would go out of his way to say a scan had not been done on Friday morning. If a scan was done, they should say that. It takes Rodgers and the coach off the hook.

Because it was done Thursday.

That is what we call being obtuse. Someone asks you if a scan was done. You respond "no, a scan wasn't done this morning". But a scan was done on Thursday afternoon, which isn't offered up as well. It's bad communication. It needlessly pisses off the fans and calls into question your QB's toughness. I actually feel bad for Rodgers.

 

[The Kerminator]

http://tracking.si.com/2013/12/12/aaron-rodgers-playing-week-15-cowboys-injury/

http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2013/12/12/aaron-rodgers-still-holding-out-hope-hell-play-sunday-for-packers/

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10126641/aaron-rodgers-green-bay-packers-gets-some-snaps-not-cleared

I don't know about that Thursday scan report. Here are three other reports that contradict that, which include more information than the article I posted yesterday from NFL.com. Is anyone other than Wilde reporting that? It certainly changes my opinion of the situation a bit if he is right and the rest of the reports are wrong.

I guess it depends on who you choose to believe. Wilde has a very good reputation and also hosts Erin's weekly radio show. Could be accurate, could be inaccurate. The fact that we just don't know should keep us from forming an opinion one way or the other. The Packers have always been tight-lipped about injuries, regardless of the importance or talent level of the player. So why now, when they are being very vague about Rodger's injury, are we surprised or making judgements about Erin's toughness or the Packer's commitment to winning this year? That's what I would call being obtuse.

 

[CalBear]

That is what we call being obtuse.

At least now you're in your area of expertise.

 

[The Football Freak]

http://tracking.si.com/2013/12/12/aaron-rodgers-playing-week-15-cowboys-injury/

http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2013/12/12/aaron-rodgers-still-holding-out-hope-hell-play-sunday-for-packers/

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10126641/aaron-rodgers-green-bay-packers-gets-some-snaps-not-cleared

I don't know about that Thursday scan report. Here are three other reports that contradict that, which include more information than the article I posted yesterday from NFL.com. Is anyone other than Wilde reporting that? It certainly changes my opinion of the situation a bit if he is right and the rest of the reports are wrong.

I guess it depends on who you choose to believe. Wilde has a very good reputation and also hosts Erin's weekly radio show. Could be accurate, could be inaccurate. The fact that we just don't know should keep us from forming an opinion one way or the other. The Packers have always been tight-lipped about injuries, regardless of the importance or talent level of the player. So why now, when they are being very vague about Rodger's injury, are we surprised or making judgements about Erin's toughness or the Packer's commitment to winning this year? That's what I would call being obtuse.

I never made any such comments. Honestly, I was just trying to help with some reports, and pointing out how they differ from Wilde. I think you may have me confused with someone else that you were debating with in this thread. I'm assuming you didn't just call me obtuse, and meant to aim that in another direction.

 

[Insein]

http://tracking.si.com/2013/12/12/aaron-rodgers-playing-week-15-cowboys-injury/

http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2013/12/12/aaron-rodgers-still-holding-out-hope-hell-play-sunday-for-packers/

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10126641/aaron-rodgers-green-bay-packers-gets-some-snaps-not-cleared

I don't know about that Thursday scan report. Here are three other reports that contradict that, which include more information than the article I posted yesterday from NFL.com. Is anyone other than Wilde reporting that? It certainly changes my opinion of the situation a bit if he is right and the rest of the reports are wrong.

I guess it depends on who you choose to believe. Wilde has a very good reputation and also hosts Erin's weekly radio show. Could be accurate, could be inaccurate. The fact that we just don't know should keep us from forming an opinion one way or the other. The Packers have always been tight-lipped about injuries, regardless of the importance or talent level of the player. So why now, when they are being very vague about Rodger's injury, are we surprised or making judgements about Erin's toughness or the Packer's commitment to winning this year? That's what I would call being obtuse.

I never made any such comments. Honestly, I was just trying to help with some reports, and pointing out how they differ from Wilde. I think you may have me confused with someone else that you were debating with in this thread. I'm assuming you didn't just call me obtuse, and meant to aim that in another direction.

Yea that was at general tso. He used the obtuse word.

 

[The Kerminator]

http://tracking.si.com/2013/12/12/aaron-rodgers-playing-week-15-cowboys-injury/

http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2013/12/12/aaron-rodgers-still-holding-out-hope-hell-play-sunday-for-packers/

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10126641/aaron-rodgers-green-bay-packers-gets-some-snaps-not-cleared

I don't know about that Thursday scan report. Here are three other reports that contradict that, which include more information than the article I posted yesterday from NFL.com. Is anyone other than Wilde reporting that? It certainly changes my opinion of the situation a bit if he is right and the rest of the reports are wrong.

I guess it depends on who you choose to believe. Wilde has a very good reputation and also hosts Erin's weekly radio show. Could be accurate, could be inaccurate. The fact that we just don't know should keep us from forming an opinion one way or the other. The Packers have always been tight-lipped about injuries, regardless of the importance or talent level of the player. So why now, when they are being very vague about Rodger's injury, are we surprised or making judgements about Erin's toughness or the Packer's commitment to winning this year? That's what I would call being obtuse.

I never made any such comments. Honestly, I was just trying to help with some reports, and pointing out how they differ from Wilde. I think you may have me confused with someone else that you were debating with in this thread. I'm assuming you didn't just call me obtuse, and meant to aim that in another direction.

Didn't mean to imply or direct that post at you. Sorry if you took it that way. It was a general statement, hence the use of the words us and we. Appreicated your links.

 

[The Football Freak]

http://tracking.si.com/2013/12/12/aaron-rodgers-playing-week-15-cowboys-injury/

http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2013/12/12/aaron-rodgers-still-holding-out-hope-hell-play-sunday-for-packers/

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10126641/aaron-rodgers-green-bay-packers-gets-some-snaps-not-cleared

I don't know about that Thursday scan report. Here are three other reports that contradict that, which include more information than the article I posted yesterday from NFL.com. Is anyone other than Wilde reporting that? It certainly changes my opinion of the situation a bit if he is right and the rest of the reports are wrong.

I guess it depends on who you choose to believe. Wilde has a very good reputation and also hosts Erin's weekly radio show. Could be accurate, could be inaccurate. The fact that we just don't know should keep us from forming an opinion one way or the other. The Packers have always been tight-lipped about injuries, regardless of the importance or talent level of the player. So why now, when they are being very vague about Rodger's injury, are we surprised or making judgements about Erin's toughness or the Packer's commitment to winning this year? That's what I would call being obtuse.

I never made any such comments. Honestly, I was just trying to help with some reports, and pointing out how they differ from Wilde. I think you may have me confused with someone else that you were debating with in this thread. I'm assuming you didn't just call me obtuse, and meant to aim that in another direction.

Didn't mean to imply or direct that post at you. Sorry if you took it that way. It was a general statement, hence the use of the words us and we. Appreicated your links.

No worries. I was mostly sure, hence my use of assumed, but wanted to be completely sure since you were responding to me and sounded a bit peeved.

The Packers are so conservative with their players, and cagey with information, I find myself working double time to parse out little pieces of statements here and there. Wilde's was out of left field, especially considering what Rodgers said himself about those scans while being interviewed on Thursday, so I'm trying to suss the situation out.

For me, if no scan was done, I think the conservative medical staff has no intention of letting him play next week; however, if a scan was done, and they debated it a bit, that gives me a smidge of hope for next week--if I can make it past this week. So ends my cool story, bro.

 

[General Tso]

http://tracking.si.com/2013/12/12/aaron-rodgers-playing-week-15-cowboys-injury/

http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2013/12/12/aaron-rodgers-still-holding-out-hope-hell-play-sunday-for-packers/

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10126641/aaron-rodgers-green-bay-packers-gets-some-snaps-not-cleared

I don't know about that Thursday scan report. Here are three other reports that contradict that, which include more information than the article I posted yesterday from NFL.com. Is anyone other than Wilde reporting that? It certainly changes my opinion of the situation a bit if he is right and the rest of the reports are wrong.

I guess it depends on who you choose to believe. Wilde has a very good reputation and also hosts Erin's weekly radio show. Could be accurate, could be inaccurate. The fact that we just don't know should keep us from forming an opinion one way or the other. The Packers have always been tight-lipped about injuries, regardless of the importance or talent level of the player. So why now, when they are being very vague about Rodger's injury, are we surprised or making judgements about Erin's toughness or the Packer's commitment to winning this year? That's what I would call being obtuse.

I never made any such comments. Honestly, I was just trying to help with some reports, and pointing out how they differ from Wilde. I think you may have me confused with someone else that you were debating with in this thread. I'm assuming you didn't just call me obtuse, and meant to aim that in another direction.

Yea that was at general tso. He used the obtuse word.

My use of the word obtuse was directed at the coach, just so we are clear.

 

[General Tso]

That is what we call being obtuse.

At least now you're in your area of expertise.

Hey CalBear, I've had it up to here with the personal attacks and unprovoked name calling in here. If you want to go down that route with me, please send me a pm. I can guarantee you're internet tough guy routine won't last face to face with me.

 

[sho nuff]

There's a lot of stupid in this thread.

And it seems to keep getting worse.

 

[sho nuff]

That is what we call being obtuse.

At least now you're in your area of expertise.

Hey CalBear, I've had it up to here with the personal attacks and unprovoked name calling in here. If you want to go down that route with me, please send me a pm. I can guarantee you're internet tough guy routine won't last face to face with me.

Funny...you are the one making the face to face comment and posting what amounts to a threat here.

It is you who has constantly trolled this thread with things and you keep trying to play the victim.

 

[The Football Freak]

I found this on ESPN, also alluding to no scans.

http://m.espn.go.com/general/blogs/blogpost?blogname=green-bay-packers&id=4964&src=desktop

Between this, and Rodgers and the reporters words in the articles I posted earlier today, I'm leaning towards no scan having been done. I may be beating this drum by myself, but I feel that may be significant.

 

[General Tso]

I found this on ESPN, also alluding to no scans.

http://m.espn.go.com/general/blogs/blogpost?blogname=green-bay-packers&id=4964&src=desktop

Between this, and Rodgers and the reporters words in the articles I posted earlier today, I'm leaning towards no scan having been done. I may be beating this drum by myself, but I feel that may be significant.

Thanks for the info. You're not banging the drum by yourself. I'm with you. Sometimes it feels more like banging heads against the wall though.I'm a Red Sox fan and I learned a couple years ago NOT to blindly trust the team medical staff. In this case I find it bizarre they would let Rodgers practice all week, have him feel good and ready to play, and then not clear him without giving him a simple scan. At face value it looks like conservatism bordering on incompetence.

 

[sho nuff]

I found this on ESPN, also alluding to no scans.

http://m.espn.go.com/general/blogs/blogpost?blogname=green-bay-packers&id=4964&src=desktop

Between this, and Rodgers and the reporters words in the articles I posted earlier today, I'm leaning towards no scan having been done. I may be beating this drum by myself, but I feel that may be significant.

Maybe more is posted somewhere and my browser is not liking your link.

All I see is a mailbag question with no answer?

 

[The Football Freak]

I found this on ESPN, also alluding to no scans.

http://m.espn.go.com/general/blogs/blogpost?blogname=green-bay-packers&id=4964&src=desktop

Between this, and Rodgers and the reporters words in the articles I posted earlier today, I'm leaning towards no scan having been done. I may be beating this drum by myself, but I feel that may be significant.

Maybe more is posted somewhere and my browser is not liking your link.

All I see is a mailbag question with no answer?

It's a question being asked by the ESPN Packers reporter on his blog at the site. It loaded up verrry slowly for me, too.

The question is the important part, because he finds it a little odd, too, I would guess. Just putting what I'm finding out there, hoping it can help some of you guys looking for clarity.

 

[The Kerminator]

I found this on ESPN, also alluding to no scans.

http://m.espn.go.com/general/blogs/blogpost?blogname=green-bay-packers&id=4964&src=desktop

Between this, and Rodgers and the reporters words in the articles I posted earlier today, I'm leaning towards no scan having been done. I may be beating this drum by myself, but I feel that may be significant.

Thanks for the info. You're not banging the drum by yourself. I'm with you. Sometimes it feels more like banging heads against the wall though.I'm a Red Sox fan and I learned a couple years ago NOT to blindly trust the team medical staff. In this case I find it bizarre they would let Rodgers practice all week, have him feel good and ready to play, and then not clear him without giving him a simple scan. At face value it looks like conservatism bordering on incompetence.

Please explain how it is incompetent. Scan or no scan (we really don't know) Rodgers reportedly felt better this week than last week but still felt minor discomfort and pain. Packers are choosing not to put their franchise QB at risk. How is that incompetent? I'm not sure why anybody is getting hung up on whether a scan was done or not. If he is still feeling slight pain then why risk it?

 

[General Tso]

I found this on ESPN, also alluding to no scans.

http://m.espn.go.com/general/blogs/blogpost?blogname=green-bay-packers&id=4964&src=desktop

Between this, and Rodgers and the reporters words in the articles I posted earlier today, I'm leaning towards no scan having been done. I may be beating this drum by myself, but I feel that may be significant.

Thanks for the info. You're not banging the drum by yourself. I'm with you. Sometimes it feels more like banging heads against the wall though.I'm a Red Sox fan and I learned a couple years ago NOT to blindly trust the team medical staff. In this case I find it bizarre they would let Rodgers practice all week, have him feel good and ready to play, and then not clear him without giving him a simple scan. At face value it looks like conservatism bordering on incompetence.

Please explain how it is incompetent. Scan or no scan (we really don't know) Rodgers reportedly felt better this week than last week but still felt minor discomfort and pain. Packers are choosing not to put their franchise QB at risk. How is that incompetent? I'm not sure why anybody is getting hung up on whether a scan was done or not. If he is still feeling slight pain then why risk it?

What's your source?

 

[sho nuff]

I found this on ESPN, also alluding to no scans.

http://m.espn.go.com/general/blogs/blogpost?blogname=green-bay-packers&id=4964&src=desktop

Between this, and Rodgers and the reporters words in the articles I posted earlier today, I'm leaning towards no scan having been done. I may be beating this drum by myself, but I feel that may be significant.

Maybe more is posted somewhere and my browser is not liking your link.

All I see is a mailbag question with no answer?

It's a question being asked by the ESPN Packers reporter on his blog at the site. It loaded up verrry slowly for me, too.

The question is the important part, because he finds it a little odd, too, I would guess. Just putting what I'm finding out there, hoping it can help some of you guys looking for clarity.

Looks like a question...whether by him or someone else as he is soliciting questions to answer over the weekend.

 

[Mile High]

Why would a team that's a half game out of a playoff spot, the same team that has won a SB as a 6th seed not want to play Rodgers if he is healthy?

 

[The Kerminator]

Why would a team that's a half game out of a playoff spot, the same team that has won a SB as a 6th seed not want to play Rodgers if he is healthy?

Exactly. Which indicates to me he's not healthy. Scan or no scan.

 

[General Tso]

Why would a team that's a half game out of a playoff spot, the same team that has won a SB as a 6th seed not want to play Rodgers if he is healthy?

Exactly. Which indicates to me he's not healthy. Scan or no scan.

It's not black and white. This is a highly subjective area. You won't even find two doctors that will see things exactly the same way. What we do know is that the Green Bay medical staff has historically been criticized for being too conservative. Why would they bee too conservative? Who knows. It's a big responsibility making such a call and if something bad happens it could end up costing you your job with the team. For years I worked in a career that required making huge gambles with millions of dollars of corporate assets on a daily basis. I quickly observed that some people just couldn't operate in such an environment. They'd find every reason under the sun NOT to take a risk so they wouldn't get burned. It's an interesting thing to observe, I've got tot tell you. These were usually older employees with fat salaries and more to lose. And while its true that the conservative approach means never having to explain bad losses, it isn't necessarily the best thing for the business.

You have to manage risk when it comes to decision making, weighing the potential costs with the potential rewards. Rule number one in good decision making is to gather all the facts and evaluate each one. If you do that we'll it's hard to ever get criticized for your decision, as you always have a good fact base to fall back to. We don't know for certain, but right now it looks like the Packers made their decision about Rodgers on Friday without doing a follow up scan from the previous week. I was sharply critical of this when the decision was made - insulted in here by countless internet punks for doing so, yet we see that even the Packers media guy is now getting peppered with questions from Packers fans asking the same thing. Another thing you want to do in decision making, particularly controversial ones, is to communicate your decision clearly. The Packers have not done this. Part of this is silly gamesmanship, but I do believe that part of it is also just plain old bad corporate communications. Anyone who has worked in a corporation knows how this works, when one area goes down one track thinking the other has "bought in", only to have the carpet pulled out from beneath them.

It's definitely a worthy debate. This is a huge decision and you are more than within your rights to be critical of the way it was administered and communicated.