**** Official Aaron Rodgers injury thread ***** (1 Viewer)

[Raider Nation]

Eli.

:X

 

[Phenix]

Eli.

:X

I feel the same way about Alex Smith all of a sudden. I would of felt better if Aaron was announced on Sunday and given a Q tag, less time to simmer on the fact that Smith is actually my starting QB for week 14. Ugh.

 

[Macdaddy_2004]

Thanks Erin

 

[rjv]

Well, he is clearly not a fast healer, count is up to 5 weeks.

If Pack do not win this week, I think it is a given his season is over.

To all who traded for him in hopes he will be back, we have officially lost that gamble.

Not if you have a competent backup like Culter who will start week 15

 

[rjv]

Whats everyone doing for their QB this week or who was the backup plan?

Or should that be another thread?

have a bye but would be playing McCown

 

[Raider Nation]

That's quite a sig you have there.

 

[Koya]

Whats everyone doing for their QB this week or who was the backup plan?

Or should that be another thread?

Case Keenum... whom I sat for Le'Veon Bell (super flex, Peyton's my other QB). Who'da thunk losing Sam Bradford could hurt so bad?

 

[meatwad1]

ERIN!!!!

 

[cstu]

Whats everyone doing for their QB this week or who was the backup plan?

Or should that be another thread?

My only backup was Manuel so I traded for Rivers just before the deadline.

 

[Insein]

Whats everyone doing for their QB this week or who was the backup plan?

Or should that be another thread?

Mine is a 2qb league. I have Foles and Alex Smith going.

 

[ghostguy123]

Not a fast healer,lol. No, he isnt Wolverine. 5 weeks isn't exactly some prolonged period of time.

50-50 next week, and that is assuming he would play even if they lose this week. 6 weeks would be right on the edge for a marginal fracture there. But since I didn't see his cray, can only go by the report it is a minor fracture.

I do know this though. He can practice 22 hours a day, but he won't play till the bone is cleared.

 

[Phenix]

Not a fast healer,lol. No, he isnt Wolverine. 5 weeks isn't exactly some prolonged period of time.

50-50 next week, and that is assuming he would play even if they lose this week. 6 weeks would be right on the edge for a marginal fracture there. But since I didn't see his cray, can only go by the report it is a minor fracture.

I do know this though. He can practice 22 hours a day, but he won't play till the bone is cleared.

So if average is 4-6 and he is at 5, that would put him at average and not a fast healer. So yes, thats a fact, he is not a fast healer.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Not a fast healer,lol. No, he isnt Wolverine. 5 weeks isn't exactly some prolonged period of time.

50-50 next week, and that is assuming he would play even if they lose this week. 6 weeks would be right on the edge for a marginal fracture there. But since I didn't see his cray, can only go by the report it is a minor fracture.

I do know this though. He can practice 22 hours a day, but he won't play till the bone is cleared.

So if average is 4-6 and he is at 5, that would put him at average and not a fast healer. So yes, thats a fact, he is not a fast healer.

Im pretty sure a broken bone heals at the same rate for every human.

 

[Phenix]

Not a fast healer,lol. No, he isnt Wolverine. 5 weeks isn't exactly some prolonged period of time.

50-50 next week, and that is assuming he would play even if they lose this week. 6 weeks would be right on the edge for a marginal fracture there. But since I didn't see his cray, can only go by the report it is a minor fracture.

I do know this though. He can practice 22 hours a day, but he won't play till the bone is cleared.

So if average is 4-6 and he is at 5, that would put him at average and not a fast healer. So yes, thats a fact, he is not a fast healer.

Im pretty sure a broken bone heals at the same rate for every human.

So human beings are all the same and not different, they all heal at the same rate?

None the less, 5 weeks is average, so therefore it is not fast.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Not a fast healer,lol. No, he isnt Wolverine. 5 weeks isn't exactly some prolonged period of time.

50-50 next week, and that is assuming he would play even if they lose this week. 6 weeks would be right on the edge for a marginal fracture there. But since I didn't see his cray, can only go by the report it is a minor fracture.

I do know this though. He can practice 22 hours a day, but he won't play till the bone is cleared.

So if average is 4-6 and he is at 5, that would put him at average and not a fast healer. So yes, thats a fact, he is not a fast healer.

Im pretty sure a broken bone heals at the same rate for every human.

So human beings are all the same and not different, they all heal at the same rate?

None the less, 5 weeks is average, so therefore it is not fast.

broken bones yes.

this isnt a sprained ankle

 

[Phenix]

Not a fast healer,lol. No, he isnt Wolverine. 5 weeks isn't exactly some prolonged period of time.

50-50 next week, and that is assuming he would play even if they lose this week. 6 weeks would be right on the edge for a marginal fracture there. But since I didn't see his cray, can only go by the report it is a minor fracture.

I do know this though. He can practice 22 hours a day, but he won't play till the bone is cleared.

So if average is 4-6 and he is at 5, that would put him at average and not a fast healer. So yes, thats a fact, he is not a fast healer.

Im pretty sure a broken bone heals at the same rate for every human.

So human beings are all the same and not different, they all heal at the same rate?

None the less, 5 weeks is average, so therefore it is not fast.

broken bones yes.

this isnt a sprained ankle

Bones heal the same way in everyone. Got it.

Some links and quotes below to dispute your claim...

Accelerated bone healing therapy

Various studies (citations needed) have found that pulsed electromagnetic fields (PEMF) have increased the rate of bone healing.

Low intensity pulsed ultrasound, applied twenty minutes per day, increases the rate of bone healing (citations needed).

Daryl Rosenbaum, M.D., Director, Sports Medicine Fellowship, Wake Forest University Baptist Medical Center

Question: How long does it take for a fracture to heal, and when can I return to sports after such an injury?
Answer: Well, it really varies for how long a fracture is going to take to heal depending on how bad the original fracture was and sometimes which body part. Fractures that are in our weight-bearing bones, especially in the legs, sometimes require a little bit longer before you can get back to the normal activities that you would. Sometimes stress fractures take a little bit longer to heal. But as a general rule of thumb, we sort of pick four weeks as a general range for most fractures to heal, but that's just for the bone to heal itself back together. It can be a little bit longer after that before that you're actually able to do those physical activities or sports that you're used to doing.

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/MensHealthQuestions/story?id=7931648

Ideally, different bones will take from 3 to 24 weeks to recover. The time that is takes to heal a broken bone will highly depend on the bone and the age of an individual. Some bones heal faster than others due to supply of blood and children bones recover faster than adult bones.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Not a fast healer,lol. No, he isnt Wolverine. 5 weeks isn't exactly some prolonged period of time.

50-50 next week, and that is assuming he would play even if they lose this week. 6 weeks would be right on the edge for a marginal fracture there. But since I didn't see his cray, can only go by the report it is a minor fracture.

I do know this though. He can practice 22 hours a day, but he won't play till the bone is cleared.

So if average is 4-6 and he is at 5, that would put him at average and not a fast healer. So yes, thats a fact, he is not a fast healer.

Im pretty sure a broken bone heals at the same rate for every human.

So human beings are all the same and not different, they all heal at the same rate?

None the less, 5 weeks is average, so therefore it is not fast.

broken bones yes.

this isnt a sprained ankle

Bones heal the same way in everyone. Got it.

Some links and quotes below to dispute your claim...

Accelerated bone healing therapy

Various studies (citations needed) have found that pulsed electromagnetic fields (PEMF) have increased the rate of bone healing.

Low intensity pulsed ultrasound, applied twenty minutes per day, increases the rate of bone healing (citations needed).

Daryl Rosenbaum, M.D., Director, Sports Medicine Fellowship, Wake Forest University Baptist Medical Center

Question: How long does it take for a fracture to heal, and when can I return to sports after such an injury?
Answer: Well, it really varies for how long a fracture is going to take to heal depending on how bad the original fracture was and sometimes which body part. Fractures that are in our weight-bearing bones, especially in the legs, sometimes require a little bit longer before you can get back to the normal activities that you would. Sometimes stress fractures take a little bit longer to heal. But as a general rule of thumb, we sort of pick four weeks as a general range for most fractures to heal, but that's just for the bone to heal itself back together. It can be a little bit longer after that before that you're actually able to do those physical activities or sports that you're used to doing.

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/MensHealthQuestions/story?id=7931648

Ideally, different bones will take from 3 to 24 weeks to recover. The time that is takes to heal a broken bone will highly depend on the bone and the age of an individual. Some bones heal faster than others due to supply of blood and children bones recover faster than adult bones.

too bad rodgers didnt have children bones.

maybe GB should of used PEMF on him?

 

[Phenix]

I wonder what they did try if anything.

 

[ghostguy123]

Broken bones absolutely do NOT all heal at the same rate for everyone. Yikes.

 

[Interseptopus]

Not a fast healer,lol. No, he isnt Wolverine. 5 weeks isn't exactly some prolonged period of time.

50-50 next week, and that is assuming he would play even if they lose this week. 6 weeks would be right on the edge for a marginal fracture there. But since I didn't see his cray, can only go by the report it is a minor fracture.

I do know this though. He can practice 22 hours a day, but he won't play till the bone is cleared.

So if average is 4-6 and he is at 5, that would put him at average and not a fast healer. So yes, thats a fact, he is not a fast healer.

Im pretty sure a broken bone heals at the same rate for every human.

So human beings are all the same and not different, they all heal at the same rate?

None the less, 5 weeks is average, so therefore it is not fast.

broken bones yes.this isnt a sprained ankle

Bones heal the same way in everyone. Got it.

Some links and quotes below to dispute your claim...

Accelerated bone healing therapy

Various studies (citations needed) have found that pulsed electromagnetic fields (PEMF) have increased the rate of bone healing.

Low intensity pulsed ultrasound, applied twenty minutes per day, increases the rate of bone healing (citations needed).

Daryl Rosenbaum, M.D., Director, Sports Medicine Fellowship, Wake Forest University Baptist Medical Center

Question: How long does it take for a fracture to heal, and when can I return to sports after such an injury?

Answer: Well, it really varies for how long a fracture is going to take to heal depending on how bad the original fracture was and sometimes which body part. Fractures that are in our weight-bearing bones, especially in the legs, sometimes require a little bit longer before you can get back to the normal activities that you would. Sometimes stress fractures take a little bit longer to heal. But as a general rule of thumb, we sort of pick four weeks as a general range for most fractures to heal, but that's just for the bone to heal itself back together. It can be a little bit longer after that before that you're actually able to do those physical activities or sports that you're used to doing.

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/MensHealthQuestions/story?id=7931648

Ideally, different bones will take from 3 to 24 weeks to recover. The time that is takes to heal a broken bone will highly depend on the bone and the age of an individual. Some bones heal faster than others due to supply of blood and children bones recover faster than adult bones.

too bad rodgers didnt have children bones.maybe GB should of used PEMF on him?

I'd be confident they did use PEMF. That's basically called a bone stimulator (no one calls it pemf). It uses electrical waves to accelerate bone growth/healing. Often used as a treatment of nonunion fractures before surgery is considered as well as after surgery to heal bone in procedures such as a spinal fusion or bunionectomyFun fact: studies have shown that when you cut your skin even, there is an electrical charge that extends across the break in skin (one side negative, the other positive). It is one way our skin heals together and finds its way to the other end of the cut, magnetic fields. We utilize this to our advantage when treating some bad wounds or bone breaks to help accelerate healing.

Ultrasound does not enhance bone growth.

Wikipedia is not a real credible source. In fact, it's the worst. Good for little bits of info regarding something you might not be familiar with, but not much else. However, it got us on this topic, which is worth discussing.

They likely used a bone stimulator and that's about it, regular rehab for flexibility and strength, probably wearing the stimulator at all hours of the day with exception of practice

Unless, they can dig up some of that deer antler spray. It was just gun deer season here in wi...

If anyone sees Aaron Rodgers rubbing his head against a tree, I think we will have our answer on that one

A side note: broken bones do not heal the same for all people. People who smoke, or who are osteoporotic, or who do too much while they are healing... All slows the process down considerably. Also, some people may heal faster than others. This applies to post op, broken bones, sprained ankles, blistered pinky toe. However, I would not classify Rodgers as a slow, average, or fast healer by his length in recovering from this.

 

[ghostguy123]

However, I would not classify Rodgers as a slow, average, or fast healer by his length in recovering from this.

Yeah, I think we will have our answer to this question once he is actually healed.

If he were to be fully healed right now, I would consider him a very fast healer. What are we at right now, pretty much exactly 5 weeks? I could see the simplest of simple breaks being fully healed at that point. But as mentioned 1000 times, I didn't see his xray.

 

[Interseptopus]

However, I would not classify Rodgers as a slow, average, or fast healer by his length in recovering from this.

Yeah, I think we will have our answer to this question once he is actually healed.

If he were to be fully healed right now, I would consider him a very fast healer. What are we at right now, pretty much exactly 5 weeks? I could see the simplest of simple breaks being fully healed at that point. But as mentioned 1000 times, I didn't see his xray.

Even after this I wouldn't use it to generalize Rodgers as a fast or slow. I wouldn't use someone's recovery from a broken bone to make that opinion. A strained hamstring or a sprained ankle, sure, but not a bone. Bones have so many other factors - which is why I felt compelled to enter this thread in the first place. Some people were making false claims in relation to his heart and that he should play and "it's just a collar bone." They didn't realize that this isn't a sprained ankle, it isn't a separated shoulder or a torn labrum, something he could play with; it's something that needs to heal, period. I think, for the most part, people get it now. If he took 6 weeks to come back from a strained hamstring then yes he would be a slow healer.

If he was back this week or last week, I wouldn't classify him as a fast healer. I'd be curious about the medical staffs decision, but that's hard to criticize if you don't have first hand access to his scans. Maybe it was a very tiny break and he was good to go, I couldn't say. If he came back I'd think that would say more about the severity of the break rather than his healing abilities, for me at least.

I am guessing he is having CT scans... Given the rumors of it being a very small fracture, and they are looking at specific healing, I am guessing they are doing CT scans since this is the only thing that can see this much detail. X-rays are good but they don't see this much detail and hairline fractures are hard to really assess with a standard X-ray. Which is also why they only do 1 a week... That's a lot of radiation (one CT scan is equal to ~200 X-rays! And the average person can safely have 300 X-rays a year before worrying about their long term health) Maybe that explains why earlier this week I was very skeptical that they would do another one prior to today's game.

 

[rjv]

DET loose GB wins and if CHI looses god I hope he plays

 

[Raider Nation]

Yep, step 1 to him possibly coming back is complete: Green Bay winning.

 

[Phenix]

I feel more strongly of DET ####ting the bed the last few games then Rodgers going on IR

this is a nonsequitur. somebody is going to back into the playoffs in the NFC North. Rodgers going IR is right there with death and taxes.

It is not a non sequitur. If the Lions lose it increases the odds that Rodgers comes back this season.

And your last sentence is also not true. Rodgers to IR is probable but not certain at this point.

it is based on my belief that Rodgers is done. Whatever the Lions do or don't do has no bearing on that. I'd be shocked if Rodgers risks his career over some short term playoff run.

Don't you play to get to the playoffs? They have a good chance if only the Lions stand in their way.

Lions are gonna lose in Philly this week, if Rodgers comes back and they win against Atlanta, how does it look then?

Can you PM the numbers for mega millions.

Sure thing!

When you want them?

 

[Insein]

Gotta think Aaron is back this week.

 

[ghostguy123]

Yeah, CRAZY to think GBs best chance at a super bowl was to wait till Rodgers is actually cleared and go try and beat crappy Atlanta at home, then have him healthy for the stretch run.

What WAS i thinking??

 

[Raider Nation]

Yeah, CRAZY to think GBs best chance at a super bowl was to wait till Rodgers is actually cleared and go try and beat crappy Atlanta at home, then have him healthy for the stretch run.

What WAS i thinking??

You are slightly annoying.

 

[ghostguy123]

Yeah, CRAZY to think GBs best chance at a super bowl was to wait till Rodgers is actually cleared and go try and beat crappy Atlanta at home, then have him healthy for the stretch run.

What WAS i thinking??

You are slightly annoying.

Says the Raider fan.

At least you think I am only SLIGHTY annoying. I can accept that.

Question now is, will he actually be cleared??

 

[Raider Nation]

Yeah, CRAZY to think GBs best chance at a super bowl was to wait till Rodgers is actually cleared and go try and beat crappy Atlanta at home, then have him healthy for the stretch run.

What WAS i thinking??

You are slightly annoying.

Says the Raider fan.

Good one.

 

[shadyridr]

Today was good for all us GB fantasy owners

 

[fantasycurse42]

Gotta think Aaron is back this week.

Man I hope so!!

 

[Interseptopus]

So assuming he plays next week- do you start him?

My options are rivers or luck.... I'm tempted to go with rivers over rodgers

 

[rjv]

You have to go Rodgers vs DAL my god he will have a field day

 

[Raider Nation]

So assuming he plays next week- do you start him?

 

[Interseptopus]

You have to go Rodgers vs DAL my god he will have a field day

Yes, a 100% healthy Rodgers in the groove would be amazing. But what about Rodgers who has missed over a month of football and could be one hit away from being done? (Yes, I know every player is one hit away)

If this were the regular season I'd trot him out there without hesitation, but with it being the semi finals of the playoffs... Can't make any errors

 

[Raider Nation]

If he's ready to start, he's ready to play.

If he's ready to play, you start him.

 

[shadyridr]

So assuming he plays next week- do you start him?

My options are rivers or luck.... I'm tempted to go with rivers over rodgers

the only way you dont start him is if you dont play fantasy football

 

[Interseptopus]

So assuming he plays next week- do you start him?

My options are rivers or luck.... I'm tempted to go with rivers over rodgers

the only way you dont start him is if you dont play fantasy football

Good one. Just over thinking. A lot of money on the line for me. I could use it

 

[The Kerminator]

You have to go Rodgers vs DAL my god he will have a field day

Yes, a 100% healthy Rodgers in the groove would be amazing. But what about Rodgers who has missed over a month of football and could be one hit away from being done? (Yes, I know every player is one hit away)

If this were the regular season I'd trot him out there without hesitation, but with it being the semi finals of the playoffs... Can't make any errors

Packers ain't rolling him out unless they are 100% sure he's ready.

 

[General Tso]

After seeing guys laying it out today it would be total sissyville if Rodgers doesn't play next week. What do you think Gronk and AP are thinking about Rodgers resting another week because a perfect hit on him could possibly rebrake his non-throwing collar bone? Seriously. If Erin doesn't play next week he should never ever ever step on the same field with Adrian Peterson. Ever.

 

[The Kerminator]

After seeing guys laying it out today it would be total sissyville if Rodgers doesn't play next week. What do you think Gronk and AP are thinking about Rodgers resting another week because a perfect hit on him could possibly rebrake his non-throwing collar bone? Seriously. If Erin doesn't play next week he should never ever ever step on the same field with Adrian Peterson. Ever.

You're trying way to hard.

 

[rjv]

You have to go Rodgers vs DAL my god he will have a field day

Yes, a 100% healthy Rodgers in the groove would be amazing. But what about Rodgers who has missed over a month of football and could be one hit away from being done? (Yes, I know every player is one hit away)

If this were the regular season I'd trot him out there without hesitation, but with it being the semi finals of the playoffs... Can't make any errors

Packers ain't rolling him out unless they are 100% sure he's ready.

I totally agree with this but when is Rodgers not ready? I know he missed time but he has been practicing in pads and throwing darts from what I read. Rodgers is that rare type of QB that will always be ready to go and perform at a high lvl.

 

[General Tso]

After seeing guys laying it out today it would be total sissyville if Rodgers doesn't play next week. What do you think Gronk and AP are thinking about Rodgers resting another week because a perfect hit on him could possibly rebrake his non-throwing collar bone? Seriously. If Erin doesn't play next week he should never ever ever step on the same field with Adrian Peterson. Ever.

You're trying way to hard.

And Erin and the Packers ain't trying hard enough.

 

[Raider Nation]

It hasn't been easy navigating through all of the stupid in this thread.

 

[The Kerminator]

You have to go Rodgers vs DAL my god he will have a field day

Yes, a 100% healthy Rodgers in the groove would be amazing. But what about Rodgers who has missed over a month of football and could be one hit away from being done? (Yes, I know every player is one hit away)

If this were the regular season I'd trot him out there without hesitation, but with it being the semi finals of the playoffs... Can't make any errors

Packers ain't rolling him out unless they are 100% sure he's ready.

I totally agree with this but when is Rodgers not ready? I know he missed time but he has been practicing in pads and throwing darts from what I read. Rodgers is that rare type of QB that will always be ready to go and perform at a high lvl.

Ready as in healthy. When he does hit the field I expect him to return as if he never missed any time.

 

[ghostguy123]

It has to take a lot of effort to radiate so much ignorance.

 

[ghostguy123]

You have to go Rodgers vs DAL my god he will have a field day

Yes, a 100% healthy Rodgers in the groove would be amazing. But what about Rodgers who has missed over a month of football and could be one hit away from being done? (Yes, I know every player is one hit away)

If this were the regular season I'd trot him out there without hesitation, but with it being the semi finals of the playoffs... Can't make any errors

Packers ain't rolling him out unless they are 100% sure he's ready.

Very true, but this has nothing to do with fantasy football.

I am off the opinion Rodgers plays unless you pretty much have Brees or Manning or something, but a guy coming back after a month or more off can lead to the occasional dud of a game. Even a guy like Rodgers.

It's at least worth thinking about based on your option.

 

[Smack Tripper]

from my own perspective, Since Keenum's nice 1st week, I have had:

Keenum Pulled

Tolzien Pulled

Flynn -2 on Thanksgiving

Keenum Pulled

I would guess 20 total points

So I'lll roll the damn dice on Rodgers getting back, lets go kid!

 

[MattFancy]

Well the Packers needed that win yesterday to make me feel confident Rodgers will play next week. I think he's got a really good chance. Plus he has a great matchup against the Dallas secondary.