*** OFFICIAL Blue Jays vs. Royals ALCS thread: Is it 1985 already? *** (1 Viewer)

[tjnc09]

Let's say I actually did believe in Royals magic and Jays offense miraculously drying up because they hit too many home runs, doubles and singles, and tjnc thinks that's not how teams win in the playoffs... I still need someone to explain to me in what world Chris Young is expected to fair well against Toronto tomorrow. Was there debate in KC land about someone else (Duffy/Medlen) getting that start?

My comment about power hitting teams was a secondary point in my post about how I thought Vegas lined playoff series. Toronto opened -150 (KC +130) which translates to a 58% chance to advance. I have always felt that number is inflated because of the public's perception about teams who are "power hitting".I would have been happy to explain myself why I thought KC was much better for the postseason if Cliff simply asked instead of having a meltdown. I didn't really prepare my post in anticipation someone would have an issue with it.

Did you read what I posted about post season myths, or just disappear and show up when the Royals were up 3-1?

That doesn't even make sense. It would make sense if I said the Royals were better and then disappeared because the Jays were up 3-1. I haven't really seen anything yet to suggest I was wrong, so no, I have no reason to disappear.I have read that Grantland article before. I personally think it is dumb.

Well, you do post on a message board, so it stands to reason you know better than Joe Sheehan, Ben Lindbergh and Russel Carleton...

I have a degree in statistics and profitably wager on baseball. I am confident I can critique their articles better than someone who simply posts on a message board. I also posted I liked the Mets over the Cubs because of their arms and (not) surprisingly the Cubs only have five runs so far in the series. Furthermore, I noted I was backing the Mets in the "Who do you root for" thread. My apologies for upsetting Toronto fans because I said they weren't that good. Meanwhile after KC/TOR game 1, TOR has lost by 3, won by 3, and lost by 12.

After watching the Giants win three World Series in five years, I am fairly confident I have a good understanding of what components a team needs to be successful in the postseason. I did not believe Toronto had them and they were lucky to have played Texas in the first round to advance.

 

[Dentist]

Is there a real Royaks fan on this board? Dickinson made it crystal clear to me he's a St. Louis fan. Tjnc has a SF Giants avatar. The dentist maybe? But true to his profession, he only showed up to collect the spoils.

I guess I'll go with bud29... at least he has a KC Chiefs avatar.

True blue Royals 20 game package holder since 1996.I just don't think to come to the baseball forum much and I'm at a lot of games so I can't post during them.

This is exciting especially after being on the brink of elimination a week ago.

Baseball is so random sometimes. They need longer series

 

[Nugget]

Let's say I actually did believe in Royals magic and Jays offense miraculously drying up because they hit too many home runs, doubles and singles, and tjnc thinks that's not how teams win in the playoffs... I still need someone to explain to me in what world Chris Young is expected to fair well against Toronto tomorrow. Was there debate in KC land about someone else (Duffy/Medlen) getting that start?

My comment about power hitting teams was a secondary point in my post about how I thought Vegas lined playoff series. Toronto opened -150 (KC +130) which translates to a 58% chance to advance. I have always felt that number is inflated because of the public's perception about teams who are "power hitting".I would have been happy to explain myself why I thought KC was much better for the postseason if Cliff simply asked instead of having a meltdown. I didn't really prepare my post in anticipation someone would have an issue with it.

Did you read what I posted about post season myths, or just disappear and show up when the Royals were up 3-1?

That doesn't even make sense. It would make sense if I said the Royals were better and then disappeared because the Jays were up 3-1. I haven't really seen anything yet to suggest I was wrong, so no, I have no reason to disappear.I have read that Grantland article before. I personally think it is dumb.

Well, you do post on a message board, so it stands to reason you know better than Joe Sheehan, Ben Lindbergh and Russel Carleton...

I have a degree in statistics and profitably wager on baseball. I am confident I can critique their articles better than someone who simply posts on a message board. I also posted I liked the Mets over the Cubs because of their arms and (not) surprisingly the Cubs only have five runs so far in the series. Furthermore, I noted I was backing the Mets in the "Who do you root for" thread. My apologies for upsetting Toronto fans because I said they weren't that good. Meanwhile after KC/TOR game 1, TOR has lost by 3, won by 3, and lost by 12. After watching the Giants win three World Series in five years, I am fairly confident I have a good understanding of what components a team needs to be successful in the postseason. I did not believe Toronto had them and they were lucky to have played Texas in the first round to advance.

I am fairly confident that you are better at statistics than you are at dealing with people.

 

[Northern Voice]

I built a WIS team around contact hitters once and it's probably the best team I've ever had in terms of success, so there's that too.

 

[Northern Voice]

Alright, comeback starts this afternoon.

 

[Bruce Dickinson]

Don't like any of the pitching matchups the rest of the way. Doubt Volquez can mirror his Game 1 performance in a smaller park. Ventura was propped up by shadows and glare in Game 2 and Price still out pitched him. And if it goes 7? Cueto is capable of recreating his masterpiece against Houston, or doing a solid LaTroy Hawkins impression, or anywhere in between.

I guess you could say I don't think this series is over.

 

[Nugget]

I don't think the Jays can rally. KC took the momentum end of game 3. Think it ends today.

 

[Nugget]

Sit down JD.

 

[Northern Voice]

Jays need to start swinging at these pitches that are only an inch or so off the plate, it's been a strike all series. If umpires are expanding the zone, need to adjust and do the same.

 

[Nugget]

Great at bat by JBats

 

[bud29]

Ugh

 

[Zigg]

Don't bring Price in please. If you lose with a 5 run lead, so be it. Price and Stroman 6 & 7 is all you can ask for.

 

[Northern Voice]

Well, game 6 here we come. Price gets another chance to shake the postseason doubters.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Incidentally, Lindbergh has an article up today on Grantland about whether high-contact gives a team an edge in the playoffs:

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/2015-mlb-playoffs-kansas-city-royals-fastball-velocity-contact/

 

[Bruce Dickinson]

Incidentally, Lindbergh has an article up today on Grantland about whether high-contact gives a team an edge in the playoffs:

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/2015-mlb-playoffs-kansas-city-royals-fastball-velocity-contact/

There's also an element of zigging when others are zagging. The trend is finding hitters who can run up pitch counts; even if they make an out, making an out in a deep count shortens the life span of the pitcher. It's why the Astros weren't worried about being a wind farm at the plate. Haven't studied the numbers in the depth, but this shift to high-contact for the Royals seems to have come with more freedom and encouragement to hack away early in counts. Not sure if that's true or not, but there's definitely been less working counts with a runner on first to give the running game a chance to breathe. Their stolen base attempts were way down.

 

[Northern Voice]

Westboro Baptist Church picketing tonight's game because apparently "God Hates Canada". I'm not making this up.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Westboro Baptist Church picketing tonight's game because apparently "God Hates Canada". I'm not making this up.

Drake's new video is trash so I am inclined to believe this.

 

[Peyton Marino]

Westboro Baptist Church picketing tonight's game because apparently "God Hates Canada". I'm not making this up.

Drake's new video is trash so I am inclined to believe this.

i got enemies gotta lotta enemies...

 

[Cliff Clavin]

Westboro Baptist Church picketing tonight's game because apparently "God Hates Canada". I'm not making this up.

Haven't we apologized enough for Beiber and Nickleback?

 

[Northern Voice]

I feel way better about this series than I probably should, I know the odds are still stacked against Toronto...

That said, Jeff Sullivan wrote about the bullpens and doesn't see one as significantly better than the other.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

I feel way better about this series than I probably should, I know the odds are still stacked against Toronto...

That said, Jeff Sullivan wrote about the bullpens and doesn't see one as significantly better than the other.

Favorites tonight.

 

[Northern Voice]

I feel way better about this series than I probably should, I know the odds are still stacked against Toronto...

That said, Jeff Sullivan wrote about the bullpens and doesn't see one as significantly better than the other.

Favorites tonight.

I assume that's starting pitcher based?

 

[Cliff Clavin]

I feel way better about this series than I probably should, I know the odds are still stacked against Toronto...

That said, Jeff Sullivan wrote about the bullpens and doesn't see one as significantly better than the other.

Favorites tonight.

They have been for every game (based on the line posted on theScore app).

 

[tjnc09]

I feel way better about this series than I probably should, I know the odds are still stacked against Toronto...

That said, Jeff Sullivan wrote about the bullpens and doesn't see one as significantly better than the other.

Favorites tonight.

You can use the series price to deduce that Toronto will be a slightly bigger favorite tomorrow night if they win, but you probably want to have Northern or Bruce confirm that.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

5D has TOR -130/KC +110 for G7. That seems somewhat surprising.

 

[Bruce Dickinson]

5D has TOR -130/KC +110 for G7. That seems somewhat surprising.

Vote of No Confidence in Cueto.

 

[shadyridr]

Ah David Price in the playoffs is always fun

 

[Capella]

Is this price thing legitimate or just SSS? Someone is bout to give him gobs of money.

 

[Bruce Dickinson]

Gump - Academy has been running radio spots all day letting folks know they will open the doors after the game tonight if the Royals win. They've got your back.

 

[Nugget]

Ventura dealing. Cautiously optimistic.

 

[shadyridr]

Is this price thing legitimate or just SSS? Someone is bout to give him gobs of money.

i don't know why some people don't think some players put more pressure on themselves and maybe let it get to them mentally.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

Is this price thing legitimate or just SSS? Someone is bout to give him gobs of money.

SSS?

He certainly hasnt pitched well at all this post season. As Bruce said, the sun may have played a big role in his first outing in KC.

 

[shadyridr]

Is this price thing legitimate or just SSS? Someone is bout to give him gobs of money.

SSS?He certainly hasnt pitched well at all this post season. As Bruce said, the sun may have played a big role in his first outing in KC.

he hasn't pitched well in the postseason his whole career

 

[Capella]

Is this price thing legitimate or just SSS? Someone is bout to give him gobs of money.

SSS?He certainly hasnt pitched well at all this post season. As Bruce said, the sun may have played a big role in his first outing in KC.

Small sample size.

He dominated some team (Rangers or Indians, I forget) in a one-game playoff in 2013.

 

[shadyridr]

Ventura is such a #####

 

[Cliff Clavin]

Is this price thing legitimate or just SSS? Someone is bout to give him gobs of money.

SSS?He certainly hasnt pitched well at all this post season. As Bruce said, the sun may have played a big role in his first outing in KC.

Small sample size. He dominated some team (Rangers or Indians, I forget) in a one-game playoff in 2013.

I'm guessing it's a bit of both. Small sample and going against better teams. He's been good tonight after the 1st two innings.

 

[bud29]

Gonna be sweating bullets if we can't get at least 1 insurance run here.

 

[belljr]

What a grab

 

[bud29]

"So that means David Price will enter free agency with a 0-7 postseason record."

That confident in the Royals, Joe?

 

[shadyridr]

Lmao did they just show a Mets vs Royals Game 1 graphic and then quickly take it away?

 

[shadyridr]

"So that means David Price will enter free agency with a 0-7 postseason record."

That confident in the Royals, Joe?

huh they're just saying he can't get a win today. And i thought he had a 2-7 record going into today

 

[Nugget]

He will likely be 0-8. I'd rather see Davis for 2 innings than Madson at all.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

"So that means David Price will enter free agency with a 0-7 postseason record."

That confident in the Royals, Joe?

huh they're just saying he can't get a win today. And i thought he had a 2-7 record going into today

As a starter.

 

[belljr]

"So that means David Price will enter free agency with a 0-7 postseason record."

That confident in the Royals, Joe?

huh they're just saying he can't get a win today. And i thought he had a 2-7 record going into today

0 -7 as a starter in postseason If they lose tonight hell be 0 - 8

 

[belljr]

"So that means David Price will enter free agency with a 0-7 postseason record."

That confident in the Royals, Joe?

He can't get the win

 

[bud29]

"So that means David Price will enter free agency with a 0-7 postseason record."

That confident in the Royals, Joe?

huh they're just saying he can't get a win today. And i thought he had a 2-7 record going into today

He corrected himself after the commercial break. The initial quote was something like "And there goes David Price, can't get the win tonight meaning he'll hit free agency with a 0-7 postseason record."

 

[Cliff Clavin]

Think any Jays fan would be happy with only giving up 3 through 7.

And Harold says that as I'm posting... I feel dirty.

 

[shadyridr]

Jose

 

[Limp Ditka]

YOSTED

 

[bud29]

"So that means David Price will enter free agency with a 0-7 postseason record."

That confident in the Royals, Joe?

He can't get the win

The Jays do still have a chance of winning this series though, meaning he'd get another shot against the Mets. Buck was talking like KC had this thing locked up already.