***Official*** Chargers vs. Broncos MNF Thread (1 Viewer)

[Doctor Detroit]

I used to kind of like the Chargers, but they are beginning to wear on me...

Nice use of the ellipsis. Merry Christmas...and...

 

[Despyzer]

Chargers have been punks for the last few years.

This is what I am saying. Notice how they have only been winning the last few years as well. Which would you rather have - wins or gentlemen?

 

[HoTnickZ]

Chargers have been punks for the last few years.

This is what I am saying. Notice how they have only been winning the last few years as well. Which would you rather have - wins or gentlemen?

Winning without acting like tools down?

 

[Despyzer]

Chargers have been punks for the last few years.

This is what I am saying. Notice how they have only been winning the last few years as well. Which would you rather have - wins or gentlemen?

Winning without acting like tools down?

Very few teams have any lasting success without someone thinking they are being jerks. The Broncos have enjoyed a tradition of great success, but only under the shadow of illegal blocking techniques and violating the salary cap, for example.

 

[Footballg]

Chargers have been punks for the last few years.

This is what I am saying. Notice how they have only been winning the last few years as well. Which would you rather have - wins or gentlemen?

Why does it have to be a choice?Nobody has won more than the Pats this year and they're loaded with good attitude.

 

[HoTnickZ]

Chargers have been punks for the last few years.

This is what I am saying. Notice how they have only been winning the last few years as well. Which would you rather have - wins or gentlemen?

Winning without acting like tools down?

Very few teams have any lasting success without someone thinking they are being jerks.

I assure you the latter has little to do with the former. Sure the former might have something to do with the latter but the Chargers aren't even that great to begin with so that just makes the tool factor that much greater. Can't believe I'm semi-defending the classless Broncos.

 

[Despyzer]

Chargers have been punks for the last few years.

This is what I am saying. Notice how they have only been winning the last few years as well. Which would you rather have - wins or gentlemen?

Why does it have to be a choice?Nobody has won more than the Pats this year and they're loaded with good attitude.

You mean the Pats who rubbed it in the Chargers' faces after the playoff game last year? The ones caught illegally filming other teams signals? The ones that get accused every week of bad sportsmanship for running up the score? Was this the best example you could come up with?

 

[Courtjester]

Sure the Chargers are better this year but when was the last time they won a playoff game or a Superbowl? like 15 years ago and never.

Someone's feelings are hurt.

Just a little ticked and dissapointed in Rivers act. I'm going to laugh when Asante Samual picks it and takes it to the house in a blowout this post season. That's if the chargers even get to that game. Last year they went 14-2 and what good was that.

I agree. Absolutely stupid by Rivers tonight. Right now Denver doesn't have a team that can compete with SD. SD is playing great ball this second half of the season. There is no reason to act that way. BTW as a Denver fan, there was no reason for Lynch to do what he did either--that was pretty dumb too throwing LT's helmet.SD has a decent team, but who are they kidding? They will get knocked off by Indy, NE or possibly even Jax. and the only difference between them and the Broncos will be they are playing an extra week and they will be drafting later in the 1st round. I am frankly just glad to have this season over next week

 

[Despyzer]

the Chargers aren't even that great to begin with so that just makes the tool factor that much greater.

I agree that the Chargers have won nothing of value, but there aren't too many teams that have won more than 46 games in the last four years and have had as many as 19 players chosen for the Pro Bowl in the last two. "Not that great" doesn't really seem fair.

 

[To commish is my wish]

Is it just me or have Gates stats really dropped since the arrival of Chambers Rivers?

Fixed.

 

[Despyzer]

Absolutely stupid by Rivers tonight.

Honestly, I missed it. I think I was getting a snack or something. What did Rivers do that got everyone so upset? I watched the highlights on ESPN to see if they made some mention of it, but they didn't. Someone clue me in. Rivers does get very emotional, so I don't put too much past him.

 

[Footballg]

You mean the Pats who rubbed it in the Chargers' faces after the playoff game last year? The ones caught illegally filming other teams signals? The ones that get accused every week of bad sportsmanship for running up the score? Was this the best example you could come up with?

That's on the accusers, not them.The filming thing was petty bs, as testified to by about 90% of the people in the business, and I don't really see how mocking some jackass's lights out dance loses them any points. The Chargers are the last ones who should be crying about being taunted. That was just a case of pimp slapping some punks who had it coming.

 

[Footballg]

the Chargers aren't even that great to begin with so that just makes the tool factor that much greater.

I agree that the Chargers have won nothing of value, but there aren't too many teams that have won more than 46 games in the last four years and have had as many as 19 players chosen for the Pro Bowl in the last two. "Not that great" doesn't really seem fair.

You forgot their preseason record......How many playoff games have they won in the last 4 years?

 

[kwantam]

That's on the accusers, not them.The filming thing was petty bs, as testified to by about 90% of the people in the business, and I don't really see how mocking some jackass's lights out dance loses them any points. The Chargers are the last ones who should be crying about being taunted. That was just a case of pimp slapping some punks who had it coming.

The majority of players---as opposed to talking heads---who talk about either running up the score or the question of taping signals will tell you the same thing: the former is not poor sportsmanship, and is less insulting than pity no-scores or FGs; and the latter practice, if not the particular method by which it was accomplished, is commonplace bordering on universal....and if Merriman can't take some needling regarding his celebration, he's just a little #####.-=kwantam

 

[Despyzer]

Fine... some Broncos fans are a little upset that their team lost tonight and choose to get upset over some classless moves by the Chargers. That's fine. I'd probably do the same thing. I agree that the Chargers haven't been acting very gentlemanly lately, and I'm not really keen on it, but you simply aren't going to find a team without any blemishes. Feel free to get worked up over it as a way of compensating for your loss, but when you come down, I wouldn't mind re-visiting this idea that winning breeds contempt.

 

[Footballg]

Yeah....I'm not a Broncos fan, but don't let reality get in your way. The Chargers are classless punks, who will get their probowl asses beat in the playoffs as usual when they actually have to play a quality team.

 

[Zaxxon]

Need 21 more passing yards for Cutler or a SD sack.

Can you keep us up to date here? I'm seriously on the edge of my seat waiting for the update.

 

[Footballg]

It'll probably be in the audible week 16 recap.

 

[mad sweeney]

You mean the Pats who rubbed it in the Chargers' faces after the playoff game last year? The ones caught illegally filming other teams signals? The ones that get accused every week of bad sportsmanship for running up the score? Was this the best example you could come up with?

That's on the accusers, not them.The filming thing was petty bs, as testified to by about 90% of the people in the business, and I don't really see how mocking some jackass's lights out dance loses them any points. The Chargers are the last ones who should be crying about being taunted. That was just a case of pimp slapping some punks who had it coming.

So petty the team got fined and knocked their 1st round pick and the coach was given the maximum fine. In other news, littering (a petty offense) is now punishable by a $10K fine and jaywalking is a 30 day mandatory jail sentence. Get real guys, you don't get that busted for something petty.I personally do not like how Brees was run out of town, I don't like AJ Smith or Rivers and several of the Bolts D are less than savory. It can make them hard to like. But no more than a coach and team getting up in front of the mic shovelling BS and expecting us to believe them when they say they aren't going for records.

And BTW, I don't see many Pats fans talking about Seau being a jackass for his dances.

 

[mad sweeney]

Yeah....I'm not a Broncos fan, but don't let reality get in your way. The Chargers are classless punks, who will get their probowl asses beat in the playoffs as usual when they actually have to play a quality team.

Yeah, McRee goes to a knee and the Pats would've flown to Boston losers. Hardly "getting their asses beat". The Chargers had the Pats done and made one mental error that turned into a worst case scenario. NE needed more than a little luck to win that game, so I wouldn't go bragging about beating anyone's ### in that game. The Pats won, but didn't beat anyone's ###.

 

[Footballg]

Actually, the Chargers needed a little luck to keep it that close, but didn't get enough to win --- except in your fantasies, I guess. Look up the score and let me know who won, if you aren't too busy typing up excuses.

 

[Neil Beaufort Zod]

Sure the Chargers are better this year but when was the last time they won a playoff game or a Superbowl?

like 15 years ago and never.

Someone's feelings are hurt.

Just a little ticked and dissapointed in Rivers act. I'm going to laugh when Asante Samual picks it and takes it to the house in a blowout this post season. That's if the chargers even get to that game. Last year they went 14-2 and what good was that.

I agree. Absolutely stupid by Rivers tonight. Right now Denver doesn't have a team that can compete with SD. SD is playing great ball this second half of the season. There is no reason to act that way. BTW as a Denver fan, there was no reason for Lynch to do what he did either--that was pretty dumb too throwing LT's helmet.SD has a decent team, but who are they kidding? They will get knocked off by Indy, NE or possibly even Jax. and the only difference between them and the Broncos will be they are playing an extra week and they will be drafting later in the 1st round.

I am frankly just glad to have this season over next week

And they have the best running back in football, and they have a better defense, and they own the series over the past couple of years. Other than that, yeah. That's the only difference.

 

[Neil Beaufort Zod]

Yeah....I'm not a Broncos fan, but don't let reality get in your way. The Chargers are classless punks, who will get their probowl asses beat in the playoffs as usual when they actually have to play a quality team.

Perhaps, but they're back in the playoffs-- where 10 other AFC teams (and their fans) wish they were.

 

[mad sweeney]

Actually, the Chargers needed a little luck to keep it that close, but didn't get enough to win --- except in your fantasies, I guess. Look up the score and let me know who won, if you aren't too busy typing up excuses.

I already know who won, I just don't remember the Chargers getting their asses kicked as you pointed out. In fact, I remember the Chargers handing it to the Pats in the first half and then losing on a fluke double turnover. But hey, if being an arrogant jerk and exaggerating SD losses are ywhat you need to feel good, have at it. And I didn't make up any excuses for why they lost, in fact I clearly stated that it was a mental error that lost it for them in the end. I fail to see how that is making an excuse, oh that's right, facts, reading comprehension and reality don't matter to you. The Chargers were too busy getting their asses kicked by a great team. I must remember the game wrong.

 

[pizzatyme]

Chargers have been punks for the last few years.

This is what I am saying. Notice how they have only been winning the last few years as well. Which would you rather have - wins or gentlemen?

Winning without acting like tools down?

Very few teams have any lasting success without someone thinking they are being jerks. The Broncos have enjoyed a tradition of great success, but only under the shadow of illegal blocking techniques and violating the salary cap, for example.

The Colts seem to fit the description of classy winning team?

 

[Courtjester]

Sure the Chargers are better this year but when was the last time they won a playoff game or a Superbowl?

like 15 years ago and never.

Someone's feelings are hurt.

Just a little ticked and dissapointed in Rivers act. I'm going to laugh when Asante Samual picks it and takes it to the house in a blowout this post season. That's if the chargers even get to that game. Last year they went 14-2 and what good was that.

I agree. Absolutely stupid by Rivers tonight. Right now Denver doesn't have a team that can compete with SD. SD is playing great ball this second half of the season. There is no reason to act that way. BTW as a Denver fan, there was no reason for Lynch to do what he did either--that was pretty dumb too throwing LT's helmet.SD has a decent team, but who are they kidding? They will get knocked off by Indy, NE or possibly even Jax. and the only difference between them and the Broncos will be they are playing an extra week and they will be drafting later in the 1st round.

I am frankly just glad to have this season over next week

And they have the best running back in football, and they have a better defense, and they own the series over the past couple of years. Other than that, yeah. That's the only difference.

And they will end up with one (maybe 2 more games) this season ending up in the same basic position as the Broncos (well, their players will have some extra $$$ from the playoff games)I guess if you are in to moral victories, then you are right.

 

[Footballg]

Actually, the Chargers needed a little luck to keep it that close, but didn't get enough to win --- except in your fantasies, I guess. Look up the score and let me know who won, if you aren't too busy typing up excuses.

I already know who won, I just don't remember the Chargers getting their asses kicked as you pointed out. In fact, I remember the Chargers handing it to the Pats in the first half and then losing on a fluke double turnover. But hey, if being an arrogant jerk and exaggerating SD losses are ywhat you need to feel good, have at it. And I didn't make up any excuses for why they lost, in fact I clearly stated that it was a mental error that lost it for them in the end. I fail to see how that is making an excuse, oh that's right, facts, reading comprehension and reality don't matter to you. The Chargers were too busy getting their asses kicked by a great team. I must remember the game wrong.

I think when the juvenile name calling starts that pretty much tells me what kind of case you've got. You wouldn't be a Chargers fan by any chance...? What kind of dances will you be doing when the Chargers get beat this year?

 

[pizzatyme]

Actually, the Chargers needed a little luck to keep it that close, but didn't get enough to win --- except in your fantasies, I guess. Look up the score and let me know who won, if you aren't too busy typing up excuses.

I already know who won, I just don't remember the Chargers getting their asses kicked as you pointed out. In fact, I remember the Chargers handing it to the Pats in the first half and then losing on a fluke double turnover. But hey, if being an arrogant jerk and exaggerating SD losses are ywhat you need to feel good, have at it. And I didn't make up any excuses for why they lost, in fact I clearly stated that it was a mental error that lost it for them in the end. I fail to see how that is making an excuse, oh that's right, facts, reading comprehension and reality don't matter to you. The Chargers were too busy getting their asses kicked by a great team. I must remember the game wrong.

I think when the juvenile name calling starts that pretty much tells me what kind of case you've got. You wouldn't be a Chargers fan by any chance...? What kind of dances will you be doing when the Chargers get beat this year?

I think the room for trolls fishing for an argument is down the hall>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

 

[mad sweeney]

Actually, the Chargers needed a little luck to keep it that close, but didn't get enough to win --- except in your fantasies, I guess. Look up the score and let me know who won, if you aren't too busy typing up excuses.

I already know who won, I just don't remember the Chargers getting their asses kicked as you pointed out. In fact, I remember the Chargers handing it to the Pats in the first half and then losing on a fluke double turnover. But hey, if being an arrogant jerk and exaggerating SD losses are ywhat you need to feel good, have at it. And I didn't make up any excuses for why they lost, in fact I clearly stated that it was a mental error that lost it for them in the end. I fail to see how that is making an excuse, oh that's right, facts, reading comprehension and reality don't matter to you. The Chargers were too busy getting their asses kicked by a great team. I must remember the game wrong.

I think when the juvenile name calling starts that pretty much tells me what kind of case you've got. You wouldn't be a Chargers fan by any chance...? What kind of dances will you be doing when the Chargers get beat this year?

Another fact filled, well thought out argument. I can tell when I'm over my head. You start off about asses getting kicked and move on to posts like the one above, then when someone calls you out as a jerk for that stuff THEY'RE the ones being juvenile. Gotcha. Sugar plum dreams sweetie pie.

 

[BoltBacker]

Wow, what a crappy thread. Almost had forgotten why I can't stand the broncos and their fans.

The win was nice but I'm just glad none of the broncos OLman dove at the knees of a DLman during a dead ball like last season. Maybe they're just bent the broncos haven't taken out nearly as many players in prime time as they have in years past. Please continue to lecture the Charger organization on "class" bronco fans.... carry on.

 

[Despyzer]

The Colts seem to fit the description of classy winning team?

I would probably agree. My hat is off to Dungy, possibly the classiest coach in the league.

 

[Workhorse]

Chargers have been punks for the last few years.

This is what I am saying. Notice how they have only been winning the last few years as well. Which would you rather have - wins or gentlemen?

Winning without acting like tools down?

Very few teams have any lasting success without someone thinking they are being jerks. The Broncos have enjoyed a tradition of great success, but only under the shadow of illegal blocking techniques and violating the salary cap, for example.

The Colts seem to fit the description of classy winning team?

Bill Polian down?

 

[Mr. PadresLakers]

Wow, what a crappy thread. Almost had forgotten why I can't stand the broncos and their fans.The win was nice but I'm just glad none of the broncos OLman dove at the knees of a DLman during a dead ball like last season. Maybe they're just bent the broncos haven't taken out nearly as many players in prime time as they have in years past. Please continue to lecture the Charger organization on "class" bronco fans.... carry on.

Taking out Jamal Williams with an illegal block down?Brandon Marshall running his mouth about how the Broncos own the West down?Bailey running his mouth pregame about how Rivers is nothing without LT? (Check the stats Champ, he lights up the Broncos more than any other team)

 

[BoltBacker]

Wow, what a crappy thread. Almost had forgotten why I can't stand the broncos and their fans.The win was nice but I'm just glad none of the broncos OLman dove at the knees of a DLman during a dead ball like last season. Maybe they're just bent the broncos haven't taken out nearly as many players in prime time as they have in years past. Please continue to lecture the Charger organization on "class" bronco fans.... carry on.

Taking out Jamal Williams with an illegal block down?Brandon Marshall running his mouth about how the Broncos own the West down?Bailey running his mouth pregame about how Rivers is nothing without LT? (Check the stats Champ, he lights up the Broncos more than any other team)

No, ending Jamal Williams season some 20 yards away from the action was several years ago. I'm talking about last season when den is in the hurry up at the end of the game, Cutler runs up to the LOS, the ball is snapped, Cutler spikes the ball to stop the clock.... one-one-thousand.... wait for it... den OL dives at Igor Olshansky knee wayyyyy after the ball has been snapped, spiked and the play is dead. All C-L-A-S-S. But really since they ended Jamal Williams season there was another game vs CIN on MNF when George Foster ended Tony Williams season. That year, '04 I believe, they(Lepsis) had already ended Spicer(JAX)'s season by breaking his leg.For those of you scoring at home...(ending a guys season and endangering his career) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (talking trash from the sidelines)... on the "chippy"-meter.

 

[pizzatyme]

Chargers have been punks for the last few years.

This is what I am saying. Notice how they have only been winning the last few years as well. Which would you rather have - wins or gentlemen?

Winning without acting like tools down?

Very few teams have any lasting success without someone thinking they are being jerks. The Broncos have enjoyed a tradition of great success, but only under the shadow of illegal blocking techniques and violating the salary cap, for example.

The Colts seem to fit the description of classy winning team?

Bill Polian down?

What has Polian done to be less than classy as a winner? Second, and more important, are you disqualifying the Colts organization based on 1 person?No team is above reproach if that is the measuring stick.

 

[Workhorse]

Chargers have been punks for the last few years.

This is what I am saying. Notice how they have only been winning the last few years as well. Which would you rather have - wins or gentlemen?

Winning without acting like tools down?

Very few teams have any lasting success without someone thinking they are being jerks. The Broncos have enjoyed a tradition of great success, but only under the shadow of illegal blocking techniques and violating the salary cap, for example.

The Colts seem to fit the description of classy winning team?

Bill Polian down?

What has Polian done to be less than classy as a winner? Second, and more important, are you disqualifying the Colts organization based on 1 person?No team is above reproach if that is the measuring stick.

When the Colts finally defeated New England, 40-21, at Gillette Stadium in November of '05, Polian, according to nbcsports.com's Tom Curran, watched then-New England backup quarterback Doug Flutie scramble on the last play and blurted out, "Break his leg."

Last season, during an October game between the Colts and Jets at Giants Stadium, Polian went even further, quite literally taking matters into his own hands. According to a report on FOX's pre-game show by Jay Glazer, Polian became upset before the game that loudspeakers had been set up too close to the field and began arguing with a New York Jets operations employee. At one point, Glazer reported, Polian grabbed the employee by the lapels of his suit jacket and jacked him up against the wall of a tunnel underneath the stands. According to Glazer, Jets general manager Mike Tannenbaum raised the issue with a league office, and Polian was later forced to write a written apology.

Stay classy, Bill.

 

[Ghost Rider]

Bailey running his mouth pregame about how Rivers is nothing without LT? (Check the stats Champ, he lights up the Broncos more than any other team)

Rivers has had Tomlinson for all of those games, so how does that make what Bailey said wrong? Let's face it, Cutler is already a better QB than Rivers, and he will likely get better as time goes on, while Rivers already seems to be regressing.

 

[BoltBacker]

Bailey running his mouth pregame about how Rivers is nothing without LT? (Check the stats Champ, he lights up the Broncos more than any other team)

Rivers has had Tomlinson for all of those games, so how does that make what Bailey said wrong? Let's face it, Cutler is already a better QB than Rivers, and he will likely get better as time goes on, while Rivers already seems to be regressing.

I agree with regard to Cutler. He is one of the most exciting young QB's out there and right now I'd say he has a higher ceiling than Rivers. That's not even so much a knock on Rivers as much as it is effusive praise of Cutler. After Roeth/Romo, if I was choosing any NFL player to start my franchise it would be Cutler.Rivers was playing pretty poorly the first half of this season(don't forget he had a new OC) but since his slow start he has improved. I'm not sure if he'll ever play at the pro-bowl level he did with Cam Cameron. With Parcells arriving in MIA and so many dolphin fans calling for the head of Cam who knows? Rivers was a pro-bowl QB in Cams offense and it wouldn't surprise me if he went back to the pro-bowl if Cam came back.

 

[Tau837]

Let's face it, Cutler is already a better QB than Rivers, and he will likely get better as time goes on, while Rivers already seems to be regressing.

I don't think this is clear cut at all. They are very close statistically, as shown by their career QB ratings - Cutler's is 87.0, Rivers' is 86.2. Cutler has been better than Rivers this year, though not by a significant margin. Rivers' season last year was better than anything Cutler has done so far. Obviously, Rivers has regressed this year, but I don't think that means he cannot regain his from from last season or even improve beyond that... that is what I expect from him.