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Official Donald Trump for President thread (2 Viewers)

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Jackstraw said:
And everywhere they gain power people hate them intensely. We are nearly to torches and pitchforks in Kansas. My priorities are getting my son through college and retiring decently and Brownback has basically wiped his ### with my hopes and dreams. 
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Not sure about Kansas but here in MA in a heavily D state both parties are to blame .

My D enters college in the fall 

 
Gary Coal Man said:
Hard to disagree with most of what you wrote.  I agree that we won't be seeing anymore Reaganesque landslide wins.  Certainly never again by the Republicans.  Perhaps by the Democrats a few decades from now as America's demographics continue to shift, but by then I'd expect that we'd see some splintering within the Democrat Party among competing groups who feel like the Democrats no longer best represent their interests.

I'd disagree, though, that Trump is causing the Republicans to lose a significant number of minority votes.  Trump is certainly alienating minority groups, but if you graph the minority vote over the past three Presidential elections it has been steadily increasing toward the Democrats among all minority groups.  Romney, in particular, got trounced among blacks, Hispanics, and Asians and he didn't say anything that could be considered specifically racially or ethnically divisive.
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That is because the democrats give them free #### and doesn't require them to earn it...

 
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Ditka Butkus said:
That is because the democrats give them free #### and doesn't require them to earn it...
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Only minorities like free stuff?  That seems like a weird argument.  I'm a straight white guy and I love free stuff.  Maybe it's because I'm Jewish and you're still counting me as a minority?  Do straight white Christian men not like free stuff?

 
TobiasFunke said:
Only minorities like free stuff?  That seems like a weird argument.  I'm a straight white guy and I love free stuff.  Maybe it's because I'm Jewish and you're still counting me as a minority?  Do straight white Christian men not like free stuff?
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Proud Men like to earn their stuff..

 
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bueno said:
Not if they're women.
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I'm just trying to figure out what my man Ditka Butkus is getting at here.  He said minorities vote for Dems because "the democrats give them free #### and doesn't require them to earn it..."

That seemed odd to me since I thought everyone loved free ####, but Ditka Butkus corrected me and told me that proud men like to earn their stuff.  So if proud men like to earn their stuff, and minorities vote Democrat because the Dems give them free stuff, that sure sounds like he's saying that minorities (or male members of minority groups, at least) are not "proud men."

Is that about right, DB?

 
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Ditka Butkus said:
Men not willing to work and pull their own weight are not proud men....Minority or otherwise.
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But you said minorities vote Democrat "because the democrats give them free #### and doesn't require them to earn it."  Are you saying that minorities tend not to be as proud as white folk?  If not, why would they tend to vote for the free ####-granting Democrats any more than anyone else?

 
I need to be the exact opposite of everything Ditka Butkis is. I want to be a pinko pansy ### bleeding heart.

I'm going to change my alias name to Beyoncé Rupaul. 

 
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TobiasFunke said:
I'm just trying to figure out what my man Ditka Butkus is getting at here.  He said minorities vote for Dems because "the democrats give them free #### and doesn't require them to earn it..."

That seemed odd to me since I thought everyone loved free ####, but Ditka Butkus corrected me and told me that proud men like to earn their stuff.  So if proud men like to earn their stuff, and minorities vote Democrat because the Dems give them free stuff, that sure sounds like he's saying that minorities (or male members of minority groups, at least) are not "proud men."

Is that about right, DB?
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Everybody should earn their ####. That way they own their #### and the government can't #### all over them.

 
This train is going 10MPH faster

The wall is getting 10 feet higher

Hillary is going to jail for 10 days longer

MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!!

 
SoBeDad said:
He has the same philosophy when it comes to policy, where he's also visceral and a mile-wide and an inch deep. By his own admission, he just needs to consult himself.

On foreign policy: "I know what I’m doing and I listen to a lot of people, I talk to a lot of people and at the appropriate time I’ll tell you who the people are... But my primary consultant is myself and I have a good instinct for this stuff."
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HFS, that's a real quote?

 
It's amusing when he calls her Crooked (not that it's necessarily incorrect) considering his fraudulent/scam MLM "university".

 
Trump says over and over again, “The world is laughing at us.” He’s been saying this for decades, he didn’t just start this year. He bought full-page ads in newspapers across the country back in 1987, when Ronald Reagan was President, saying that America lacked a backbone and the world was – you guessed it – laughing at us. He was wrong then, and he’s wrong now – and you’ve got to wonder why somebody who fundamentally has so little confidence in America, and has felt that way for at least 30 years, wants to be our President.
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- So that is the Democratic nominee defending Ronald Reagan and his legacy from attack by the GOP nominee.

Really something, folks.

 
Text of Hillary's speech here.

http://time.com/4355797/hillary-clinton-donald-trump-foreign-policy-speech-transcript/?xid=tcoshare

This is basically old fashioned Scoop Jackson stuff and what strikes me is that Hillary - who IMO does well when she has a foil (which maybe she initially thought Sanders would be...) - has maybe found someone to bounce off of with Trump and seem normal. I can't quite explain the remarkable turn of events in which the GOP has managed to find the one candidate that will allow Hillary to speak passionately about ethics and defending America's commitment and virtue abroad but gosh they seem to have done the impossible.

Good speech textually, I didn't hear it so if the treble broke on your speaker well maybe I missed that.

 
Some guy on CNN said it was her best speech ever. Or something like that. Good line from it was like "I'm sure Donald is tweeting about me right now." Which he was, because he can't help himself. "CROOKED HILLARY!!"

 
These are great!

Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 6h6 hours ago
Wow, USA Today did todays cover story on my record in lawsuits. Verdict: 450 wins, 38 losses. Isn't that what you want for your president?
Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 7h7 hours ago

Do you ever notice that @CNN gives me very little proper representation on my policies. Just watched-nobody knew anything about my foreign P
(does anyone know anything about his foreign P?)

Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 6h6 hours ago
After the litigation is disposed of and the case won, I have instructed my execs to open Trump U(?), so much interest in it! I will be pres.
 
Yep, they've had him on numerous times, at times daily. Why not give this "proper representation" himself?

Matter of fact, rather than being the Clinton News Network i've been thinking they should call it the Trump News Network.

 
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As for his campaign, the last FEC report said he had $2.4 million in his account, and $44 million in debt. That debt, by the way, is to one Donald J. Trump, which is proof he’s not even self-funding the red-hats-and-tweeting phase of the campaign.

The RNC had about $17 million on hand and $4 million in debt.  They’re only about $970 million dollars short of the combined Romney/RNC/SuperPAC total for 2012.
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http://heatst.com/politics/donald-trumps-money-is-a-myth-will-he-bankrupt-the-rnc-too/?mod=sm_tw_post

- I don't even know if I'm reading this right.

Am I reading this right?

Holy shytez.

 
It’s not coming from the RNC, either. They simply don’t have the money to do it, and never will. Part of the reason Preibus rolled over so quickly was the thought Trump would stroke a massive check to the RNC, when Trump never intended to do so.  I can imagine the Titanic sinking sensation in the pit of Reince’s stomach when stories hit this weekend that Trump’s campaign was broke. Even though Trump has farmed out all the voter contact, data and research operations of a normal campaign to the RNC, a national campaign (outside of the media buys) is going to cost at minimum $250 million dollars. This is for the invisible operational underpinnings of voter contact, data, targeting, legal compliance, field staff, headquarters, and so on, and the RNC has no path to raise that money independently.
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What a read.

 
bueno said:
Not necessarily. Most of Trump's money is likely in real estate, not "cash, securities, and bonds."  All Cubans is saying is he has more of one kind of wealth than Trump does. Just an attack piece with half-truths.
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David Mullin ‏@RD_Mullin Jun 1
@TheRickWilson @realDonaldTrump's FEC OGE Form 278e => <$165M in liquid assets. Gen Election financial disaster.
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- This is coming into focus. The figure I've read before is a 500 million campaign is typical, in spending and cash on hand.

- Altogether campaigns cost like a billion to a billion and a half. Before the campaign season started Hillary was talking about 2 billion because the GOP was going to break all records.

Now the GOP has a candidate has less money on hand in his whole existence than a cost of a campaign, he rejects data altogether, he's turned off the GOP donor class, and the cupboard is empty. Wow.
 
SoBeDad said:
He has the same philosophy when it comes to policy, where he's also visceral and a mile-wide and an inch deep. By his own admission, he just needs to consult himself.

On foreign policy: "I know what I’m doing and I listen to a lot of people, I talk to a lot of people and at the appropriate time I’ll tell you who the people are... But my primary consultant is myself and I have a good instinct for this stuff."
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This quote is from MSNBC's Morning Joe Wednesday back in March. He has flip-flopped on the nuclear issue, which calls into question his good instincts.

 
3C's said:
Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 6h6 hours ago
Wow, USA Today did todays cover story on my record in lawsuits. Verdict: 450 wins, 38 losses. Isn't that what you want for your president?
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This article also says this:

• Trump distances himself from deals that sour.

When projects struggle, Trump doesn’t hesitate to cut ties, even those that relied on his name to secure investments. That was the case in condo projects that were never completed in Fort Lauderdale, Tampa, Panama and Baja, Mexico.

Condo buyers who sued to get their deposits back often said they believed Trump was a full partner in the buildings. Trump was shielded by disclaimers in sales agreements explaining his branding-only role, though plaintiffs and their lawyers argued in court that fine print didn’t sync with marketing materials that made it appear these were Trump properties.

In depositions and court filings in the condo cases and similar branding deals, Trump's team appears to try to have it both ways in depicting his involvement. On one hand, Trump contends deep influence over even the smallest details to ensure Trump-branded products and developments are up to his standard, and he places high importance on the influence of his marketing muscle in such deals — usually as the lead name, face and voice behind a project.

On the other hand, his team argues in court that he's not liable for the deals that fail because he's simply lent his name.

Trump himself walked lawyers through the difference between a brander and a developer in a 2013 deposition in one of the Fort Lauderdale condo cases.

“Well, the word ‘developing,’ it doesn't mean that we're the developers,” Trump said, arguing he’s not accountable when a project he lends just his name to goes under. “We worked on the documents, we worked on the room sizes and the things, but we didn't give out the contracts, we didn't get the financing, we weren't the developer, but we did work with the developer.”

In lawsuits over his Trump University, he testified that he had never met instructors who were described in the university’s promotional materials as being “handpicked” by him. “It depends on the definition of what that means, handpicked,” Trump said during an exchange with a lawyer in a sworn deposition last December.

When attorneys representing plaintiffs pointed out some instructors had criminal pasts and had been accused of berating seniors who signed up for the program, Trump replied: “In every business, people slip through the cracks.”

Florida attorney Sherri Simpson, who defends homeowners in foreclosure actions, said she signed up for Trump University classes because she hoped to capitalize on low prices during the housing downturn. She wanted to turn to a trusted real-estate name to learn how.

“I’m aggravated that I lost all that money,” she said in an interview. “He promised to hire the best, to handpick the instructors, make sure everyone affiliated with the program was the best. But he didn’t do that.”
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http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/06/01/donald-trump-lawsuits-legal-battles/84995854/

- My guess is that after he fails in November after he finishes blaming the press, his enemies, and the RNC, he will likely blame his followers.

 
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