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The General said:
:lol: I'll take it back he's not a tax cheat, I was just teasing your orange hero. Glad to see he didn't have to pay taxes at least for a few years wouldn't want to see him being held back by the feds. 

Hopefully he releases them so we get a look at all his stuff. 
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I'm just using him as a protest vote against the establishment. If Bernie could overtake the fat assed, old pear shaped, lying sack of ####, I'd vote for him. It really doesn't matter to me what his income tax statements show unless he's busted for tax evasion. It's comical that they focus on it.

They are looking to do this: 'Aha, you don't pay any taxes'. ....um...we don't care, I would do the same if I was in his position as would anyone with a brain.
'Aha, you only donated this much to charity'. Who cares.
Or the lamest of the lame:  'Aha, you don't make as much as you say'! :yawn:

 
lod01 said:
I'm just using him as a protest vote against the establishment. If Bernie could overtake the fat assed, old pear shaped, lying sack of ####, I'd vote for him. It really doesn't matter to me what his income tax statements show unless he's busted 

They are looking to do this: 'Aha, you don't pay any taxes'. ....um...we don't care, I would do the same if I was in his position as would anyone with a brain.
'Aha, you only donated this much to charity'. Who cares.
Or the lamest of the lame:  'Aha, you don't make as much as you say'! :yawn:
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The Obama/Hillaryguys are in for a rude awakening if they think that ####s gonna work again.  They better toss out there playbook for beating complete ##### Republicans quick and get some new material.  

 
lod01 said:
I'm just using him as a protest vote against the establishment. If Bernie could overtake the fat assed, old pear shaped, lying sack of ####, I'd vote for him. It really doesn't matter to me what his income tax statements show unless he's busted for tax evasion. It's comical that they focus on it.

They are looking to do this: 'Aha, you don't pay any taxes'. ....um...we don't care, I would do the same if I was in his position as would anyone with a brain.
'Aha, you only donated this much to charity'. Who cares.
Or the lamest of the lame:  'Aha, you don't make as much as you say'! :yawn:
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Protest vote? Does that mean Donald isn't making America great again?

 
lod01 said:
I'm just using him as a protest vote against the establishment. If Bernie could overtake the fat assed, old pear shaped, lying sack of ####, I'd vote for him. It really doesn't matter to me what his income tax statements show unless he's busted for tax evasion. It's comical that they focus on it.

They are looking to do this: 'Aha, you don't pay any taxes'. ....um...we don't care, I would do the same if I was in his position as would anyone with a brain.
'Aha, you only donated this much to charity'. Who cares.
Or the lamest of the lame:  'Aha, you don't make as much as you say'! :yawn:
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So, to protest politicians stacking the deck in favor of a select few that buy influence, your solution is basically to cut out the middleman and just elect someone that is in the habit of buying influence?

 
lod01 said:
I'm just using him as a protest vote against the establishment. If Bernie could overtake the fat assed, old pear shaped, lying sack of ####, I'd vote for him. It really doesn't matter to me what his income tax statements show unless he's busted for tax evasion. It's comical that they focus on it.

They are looking to do this: 'Aha, you don't pay any taxes'. ....um...we don't care, I would do the same if I was in his position as would anyone with a brain.
'Aha, you only donated this much to charity'. Who cares.
Or the lamest of the lame:  'Aha, you don't make as much as you say'! :yawn:
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It's only lame because this jackass thinks it's so important that he's worth 10 Billion or whatever and if someone questions it he gets all pissy and holds a press conference with his steaks and magazine on a table. 

The donation thing is only important because it seems he has a problem saying things that are accurate. Combined with a knack for saying whatever people want to hear and not really having positions.

Sounds like another loser politician.

 
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Pedro Cerrano Fan said:
I don't know if anyone reads Vox here, but I thought this was a decent article.  Extremely short answer to the "Is Donald Trump a fascist" question is no.
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The best description I've heard (from Robert O. Paxton who wrote 'The Anatomy of Fascism') is that he 'uses the rhetoric of fascism'.

 
Dexter said:
So I had to look it up. People pledged 6 million which is the number he quoted but only actually gave 4.5 million. of which 2.7ish million has already been paid out.

How much did Hillary raise? How much did Bernie raise?  

Listen to yourselves. Yeah it sucks the people who pledged didn't donate but that's not Trumps fault. He still raised MILLIONS OF DOLLARS! Which is more than any of you or the other candidates have done.

Shame on you. SHAME! SHAME! SHAME!
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2.7 given out...and the rest?

What does Hillary or Bernie have to do with it? Just the usual pointless deflection.

 
Dexter said:
It takes real balls to attack someone who's actually doing something for people. It's that attitude that put me on Trumps team. I'm tired of people who are doing nothing cry about someone who is. 

Want "free" College? Join the Military

Want to live in a nice neighborhood? Start by cleaning up your own yard.

Want your kids to go to a good school? Join the PTA and make it good.

But no that's too hard it's just easier to demand it from the people who put in the hard work. 

I hope the people who are on the fence are reading this thread. What they'll see is two sides. 

Team Trump: Leave us alone and let us make america great again. We want the freedom to lift ourselves up by our boot straps and go to work MAGA

Team Cry Baby: Wakes up looking to be a victim, wants to take from others, and offended when people love their country. 
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You seem to cry more than anyone else.  Poor Donald getting criticized for being a liar.

And want free education... join the Military.  Great...just don't ask your boy Trump about the GI Bill.

 
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Dexter said:
sho nuff said:
How dare people nitpick about him lying...about $1.5mil he claimed to give to vets to pander to voters.
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So I had to look it up. People pledged 6 million which is the number he quoted but only actually gave 4.5 million. of which 2.7ish million has already been paid out.

How much did Hillary raise? How much did Bernie raise?  

Listen to yourselves. Yeah it sucks the people who pledged didn't donate but that's not Trumps fault. He still raised MILLIONS OF DOLLARS! Which is more than any of you or the other candidates have done.

Shame on you. SHAME! SHAME! SHAME!
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And it doesn't bother you that Donald hid the truth for months and lied about how much money was actually raised?

 
[scooter] said:
And it doesn't bother you that Donald hid the truth for months and lied about how much money was actually raised?
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Also both Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders have spent years speaking and donating their time for countless charities and on behalf of causes they believe in, and Bernie in particular has done more for veterans than nearly anybody else in Washington. This is just total ignorance, but unfortunately it's what I've come to expect from certain Trump supporters. 

 
lod01 said:
Then blame yourself for putting them in office. Blame yourself some more for keeping them in office.
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Why should I blame myself for putting no one in office?  The problem with the world is it is filled with control freaks.  From the right follow the circle to the left and they all want desire and vote for those who will control. 

Every soulution ion to your problem politicians will solve involves force from the government to control someone else  

Every ####### year you see thousands of new laws passed. 

Because 90% of people can not live their lives without controlling or desiring to control the way others live theirs. 

America can should have set the example to the world about individual rights but from the time she was born into this world America was a lie  

Freedom Liberty and Independence   

Hollow words from hollow people   

I I am not to blame. Blame yourself for needing to vote for someone to rule you. 

 
timschochet said:
Also both Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders have spent years speaking and donating their time for countless charities and on behalf of causes they believe in, and Bernie in particular has done more for veterans than nearly anybody else in Washington. This is just total ignorance, but unfortunately it's what I've come to expect from certain Trump supporters. 
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Bernie acts like an angel but has a lot of energetic wolves shoving their anti racist tolerance down Trump supporters throat not so tolerantly ( aka violently )

Hillary I'm sure does a lot of work for veteran charities.  I'm also sure her and Bubbas good friends run them as well.

 
Dr Oadi said:
Bernie acts like an angel but has a lot of energetic wolves shoving their anti racist tolerance down Trump supporters throat not so tolerantly ( aka violently )

Hillary I'm sure does a lot of work for veteran charities.  I'm also sure her and Bubbas good friends run them as well.
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So you're critical of Bernie's supporters for being intolerant of racism? 

 
[scooter] said:
Safest war in history? :unsure:
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1500 dead in Afghanistan during the Obama presidency, though deaths are way down this year, I believe 5 or so for this year but we're still obviously bombing Taliban in Afghanistan and Pakistan. Actually more dead in Iraq this year (6) than Afghanistan.

 
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Civilian Casualties in Afghan War Are Unabated in 2016


KABUL, Afghanistan — With nearly 2,000 civilians killed or wounded and more than 80,000 people displaced this year already, the Afghan conflict continues to affect lives in record numbers, the United Nations said on Sunday.

The report came as fighting raged across several provinces. For a third day, government forces repelled Taliban attacks across several districts of Kunduz and were trying to prevent the insurgents from taking the provincial capital, as they did in the fall.

The United Nations mission in Afghanistan documented 600 civilian deaths and 1,343 wounded in the first three months of 2016, which by most accounts is expected to be a bloody year as the Taliban rejected the latest efforts to bring them to peace talks. While the death toll fell 13 percent from the same period last year, the number of wounded increased 11 percent, the report said, with a high rise among children.

“In the first quarter of 2016, almost one-third of civilian casualties were children,” said Danielle Bell, the United Nations human rights director in Afghanistan. ...
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http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/18/world/middleeast/civilian-casualties-in-afghan-war-are-unabated-in-2016.html?_r=0

 
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Loan Sharks said:
Why just limit it to Afghanistan? 
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Because that was the topic at hand, the attack on the Taliban leader. Didn't mean to exclude anything. For the record we are supplying proxies and/or bombing in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Libya, Yemen, Syria, and Iraq. And we have troops in Afghanistan, Syria and Iraq. So yeah that's all happening.

 
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SaintsInDome2006 said:
1500 dead in Afghanistan during the Obama presidency, though deaths are way down this year, I believe 5 or so for this year but we're still obviously bombing Taliban in Afghanistan and Pakistan. Actually more dead in Iraq this year (6) than Afghanistan.
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Nobody likes it but what is the alternative? If we leave Afghanistan the Taliban is going to come back. If they come back, they threaten Pakistan, which is a weak government with nuclear weapons. Then what? I'm not saying we should be there forever, but I know that we can't leave anytime soon. 

Even so, killing the leader of the Taliban is a big deal. It's a win for us. 

 
timschochet said:
Nobody likes it but what is the alternative? If we leave Afghanistan the Taliban is going to come back. If they come back, they threaten Pakistan, which is a weak government with nuclear weapons. Then what? I'm not saying we should be there forever, but I know that we can't leave anytime soon. 

Even so, killing the leader of the Taliban is a big deal. It's a win for us. 
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I'm not even sure I disagree with you, I was just responding to the point about being the 'safest' war, add in the Bush years it's another 640 deaths or so. Obviously not the 'safest' anything for anyone.

 
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SaintsInDome2006 said:
I'm not even sure I disagree with you, I was just responding to the point about being the 'safest' war, add in the Bush years it's another 640 deaths or so. Obviously not the 'safest' anything for anyone.
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One day in the Battle of Antietam cost 22,000+ dead, wounded, or missing.  Afghanistan seems damn safe relatively speaking.

 
timschochet said:
So you're critical of Bernie's supporters for being intolerant of racism? 
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By being violent? Um yeah if someone calls you a racist name or believes they are superior to you because they have not the same skin tone. That doesn't give you the right to vandalize their property or assault them.  

Which has has happened to Trump supporters and well the excuse is because they are racists. 

Wow. 

Wow. ####### wow You support Trump you are a racists I can #### up your car and #### you up and out one ####### cares because of the magical word racists

yeah let's all watch the remake of ####a Kinte next week and then go punch out a conservative white person because they all racists. 

Its all justified because they are all racists.

I wonder if if this remake will represent who owned all those poor enslaved Africans who made their way to this Nation. 

But it who cares about that?

 
timschochet said:
Nobody likes it but what is the alternative? If we leave Afghanistan the Taliban is going to come back. If they come back, they threaten Pakistan, which is a weak government with nuclear weapons. Then what? I'm not saying we should be there forever, but I know that we can't leave anytime soon. 

Even so, killing the leader of the Taliban is a big deal. It's a win for us. 
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No its totally fine that Obama kills the families and children of terrorists because you don't know what the alternative is? How about we stop? 

 
Loan Sharks said:
No its totally fine that Obama kills the families and children of terrorists because you don't know what the alternative is? How about we stop? 
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America can stop killing the families of Children in Afghanistan Iraq Syria.  I'm sure most will agree here

America can stop killing the families and children's in Spain Germany The powers that be May forbid Americans killing the children of France and England but I'm sure they have no problem with killing the yellow man that never called the 20 year old white boy racist. 

So if Saigon wasn't worth it why are 30 some k American sitting ducks in a neutral zone protecting Seoul 31 years after America left?

Trump foreign policy scares the World because it makes sense. 

 
timschochet said:
I just discussed what might happen if we simply stop. I don't think we can afford the risk. 
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The question is not if we can willingly stop. The question is can America be stopped?  

Maybe it just isn't enough American blood to be spilled in Europe and Asia that CAN stop whatever YOU don't want America to STOP. 

 
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Dr Oadi said:
The question is not if we can willingly stop. The question is can America be stopped?  

Maybe it just isn't enough American blood to be spilled in Europe and Asia that CAN stop whatever YOU don't want America to STOP. 
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If not for the racism I would have you confused with my hippie uncle. 

 
So let's see if I have this right. The Trump supporters want: 

1. The US to end all of its international commitments.

2. The US to build big walls around it's borders. 

3. The forced deportation of all illegal immigrants. 

4. High tariffs against Mexico, China, and our other trading partners. 

This is what apparently half of America truly wants? 

 
timschochet said:
If not for the racism I would have you confused with my hippie uncle. 
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You are an open borders give me your unwanted. 

How aboutgiving America the 58 million unwanted Americans you have giving your blessing not to exist today. 

There is that magical word again Racists

lets say I am white

lets say I am a male

i am everything you learned in africanamerican studies was evil

and this means what?

Is the foundation of liberalism in America screaming racist at everyone?

If only America did have the Worlds unwanted. If you aren't wanted in America.  You sure the #### aren't wanted in the World. 

58 million 40 and under ( mostly white and black America ) Americans could do a lot of damage stoping again what is it that you do not want to risk America stop doing?

 
timschochet said:
So let's see if I have this right. The Trump supporters want: 

1. The US to end all of its international commitments.

2. The US to build big walls around it's borders. 

3. The forced deportation of all illegal immigrants. 

4. High tariffs against Mexico, China, and our other trading partners. 

This is what apparently half of America truly wants? 
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All American voters, whether they are pro Hillary or for Trump, are looking for someone to protect their interests.

 
Dr Oadi said:
You are an open borders give me your unwanted. 

How aboutgiving America the 58 million unwanted Americans you have giving your blessing not to exist today. 

There is that magical word again Racists

lets say I am white

lets say I am a male

i am everything you learned in africanamerican studies was evil

and this means what?

Is the foundation of liberalism in America screaming racist at everyone?

If only America did have the Worlds unwanted. If you aren't wanted in America.  You sure the #### aren't wanted in the World. 

58 million 40 and under ( mostly white and black America ) Americans could do a lot of damage stoping again what is it that you do not want to risk America stop doing?
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Nah forget it. You don't sound like Uncle Barry anymore. He was just a Berkeley hippie who liked to march in protest. Pretty harmless though. 

 
timschochet said:
If not for the racism I would have you confused with my hippie uncle. 
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If not for the racism....

This is why the democrats will lose. 

The the reason why commies  like MLK ( yes the reparations wealth redistribution MLK has been ignored ) Yes the Martin Luther you all worship is worshiped as a god today is because of white America

The reason why there was a MLK to come down to Selma was because a lot of dead white people fresh off the boat paved a way to burn Atlanta. 

The Yankees won. 

Trump is a yankee. 

The racists name calling that always worked on republicans don't sound just right to a Yankee Union worker. 

Maybe something is off here.  Surely there is some poor oppressed African American who has been treated unjustly by this 21rst century Hitler. 

Must be saving that for an October surprise.  

Racist!

Im white. Yes I'm White.  I don't really care. I'm white in America with a ####.   I'm supposed to watch Roots this weekend and cry. YES WHITE BOY YOU ARE. 

 
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Dr Oadi said:
If not for the racism....

This is why the democrats will lose. 

The the reason why commies  like MLK ( yes the reparations wealth redistribution MLK has been ignored ) Yes the Martin Luther you all worship is worshiped as a god today is because of white America

The reason why there was a MLK to come down to Selma was because a lot of dead white people fresh off the boat paved a way to burn Atlanta. 

The Yankees won. 

Trump is a yankee. 

The racists name calling that always worked on republicans don't sound just right to a Yankee Union worker. 

Maybe something is off here.  Surely there is some poor oppressed African American who has been treated unjustly by this 21rst century Hitler. 

Must be saving that for an October surprise.  

Racist!

Im white. Yes I'm White.  I don't really care. I'm white in America with a ####.   I'm supposed to watch Roots this weekend and cry. YES WHITE BOY YOU ARE. 
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Is this even English?

 
timschochet said:
I KNEW there was yet another reason to dislike him. 

Hey, maybe even the Red Sox fans will vote for Hillary once they learn this news...
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Maybe after 165 years even the Yankees are tried of doing what you believe America can't risk stop doing.  

That is simply put shedding blood on land that is not their own.  

Tell me me non racist Tim   What land will you shed blood for defending?

 
Dr Oadi said:
If not for the racism....

This is why the democrats will lose. 

The the reason why commies  like MLK ( yes the reparations wealth redistribution MLK has been ignored ) Yes the Martin Luther you all worship is worshiped as a god today is because of white America

The reason why there was a MLK to come down to Selma was because a lot of dead white people fresh off the boat paved a way to burn Atlanta. 

The Yankees won. 

Trump is a yankee. 

The racists name calling that always worked on republicans don't sound just right to a Yankee Union worker. 

Maybe something is off here.  Surely there is some poor oppressed African American who has been treated unjustly by this 21rst century Hitler. 

Must be saving that for an October surprise.  

Racist!

Im white. Yes I'm White.  I don't really care. I'm white in America with a ####.   I'm supposed to watch Roots this weekend and cry. YES WHITE BOY YOU ARE. 
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It sure as hell is.

 
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