Official Donald Trump for President thread (2 Viewers)

[SaintsInDome2006]

Lewandowski out as campaign manager.

BOOM.

Wow.

 

[TobiasFunke]

Lewandowski out as campaign manager.

This is amazing enough on its own.  But the fact that it happened on a Monday morning when the story could've easily been buried behind Father's day/US Open/Game 7 if they'd done it or leaked it yesterday?  That says something about what a total ####show this has been since he attempted to pivot to the general election.  Dumping bad news on Friday afternoon or when the nation is otherwise preoccupied is Politics 101.

 

[Don Quixote]

This is amazing enough on its own.  But the fact that it happened on a Monday morning when the story could've easily been buried behind Father's day/US Open/Game 7 if they'd done it or leaked it yesterday?  That says something about what a total ####show this has been since he attempted to pivot to the general election.  Dumping bad news on Friday afternoon or when the nation is otherwise preoccupied is Politics 101.

Yeah, as well as the time wasted spent defending Lewandowski, and defaming a reporter, from the battery stuff when he could have just cut him loose a couple of months ago.

Also interesting to see the anon quotes on Twitter from staff calling it "bedlam" and no one knows what's going on.  Meanwhile, Trump is on his way to Scotland to open a golf course in a couple of days.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Getting the most out of the star requires keeping him informed. While Trump nurses an obvious addiction to cable news, the reading that's put in front of him is largely confined to a topic he already knows well. Every morning, staffers print out 30 to 50 Google News results for “Donald J. Trump.” He then goes at the sheaf with a marker, making circles and arrows and annotating things he likes or doesn't like. The defaced article gets scanned and e-mailed to the journalist or the person quoted who has drawn Trump's attention, under the subject line “From the office of Donald J. Trump.”

http://www.gq.com/story/hope-hicks-mystifying-triumph-donald-trump

 

[Lutherman2112]

Lewandowski out as campaign manager.

Hope he got paid in cash.

 

[Apple Jack]

Lewandowski out as campaign manager.

"I like the Campaign Managers that run campaigns for sane people."

 

[Mario Kart]

Now that's just crazy talk!  Much better to stop the gays from marrying and to ensure gun ownerships rights are limitless just in case the gobmint needs to be overthrown. 

Given what most likely will happen in November and the fact Obama/Clinton will have at minimum 2 Supreme Court justices to nominate, some of these gun nuts might just see a reason to overthrow the government. Which is scary.

 

[GROOT]

This is amazing enough on its own.  But the fact that it happened on a Monday morning when the story could've easily been buried behind Father's day/US Open/Game 7 if they'd done it or leaked it yesterday?  That says something about what a total ####show this has been since he attempted to pivot to the general election.  Dumping bad news on Friday afternoon or when the nation is otherwise preoccupied is Politics 101.

And people are voting for him because of this. He's not politics 101.

 

[Apple Jack]

And people are voting for him because of this. He's not politics 101.

People are voting for him because they are either racist or idiots. Or in many cases, both. HTH.

 

[GROOT]

People are voting for him because they are either racists or idiots. HTH.

Trump has voters of all races, are they idiots too?

 

[Apple Jack]

Trump has voters of all races, are they idiots too?

Clearly.

 

[GROOT]

Clearly.

why?

 

[TobiasFunke]

And people are voting for him because of this. He's not politics 101.

"Politics 101" is not the same thing is "politics as usual."  Trump has been rewarded for rejecting some aspects "politics as usual," which some people understandably embrace.  But what he's doing here is rejecting basic common sense about when to release bad news. Nobody's voting for him because he bungles obvious PR and strategy decisions.

 

[Apple Jack]

why?

Gee, I dunno. There's really not a lot known about him, I guess it's just a gut feeling.

 

[msommer]

Given what most likely will happen in November and the fact Obama/Clinton will have at minimum 2 Supreme Court justices to nominate, some of these gun nuts might just see a reason to overthrow the government. Which is scary.

You're counting replacements for Scalia and Thomas? Don't forget Kennedy is pushing 80 as well. Ginsburg, though liberal is also pretty old and might just step down. And Breyer will turn 80 in two years

So the next president will likely get to install a 7-2 liberal majority, with the three or four  or even five new nominees to sit for at least 20+ years

If the down ticket woes of the GOP are as bad as they might appear, this could a pretty major shift for a generation - or at least until Alito, Sotomayor and Roberts retires 

 

[GROOT]

Gee, I dunno. There's really not a lot known about him, I guess it's just a gut feeling.

Give me facts, not your gut feeling

 

[Apple Jack]

Give me facts, not your gut feeling

Can't really put my finger on it.

 

[CBusAlex]

why?

Have a look

 

[dparker713]

People are voting for him because they are either racist or idiots. Or in many cases, both. HTH.

Ignorant is an option too.

 

[timschochet]

Ignorant is an option too.

Racist, stupid, or ignorant...

seems like I offered these three possible options back in September. Now, however, there is a 4th option, which I have encountered a lot lately: 

"I'm voting for Trump because I'm a Republican and he's the nominee." 

These are the folks who weren't paying attention during the primaries or who voted for somebody else earlier, like Cruz. They don't pay attention on a daily basis, but when push comes to shove they vote Republican because they always have. There's a lot of these people. 

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Racist, stupid, or ignorant...

seems like I offered these three possible options back in September. Now, however, there is a 4th option, which I have encountered a lot lately: 

"I'm voting for Trump because I'm a Republican and he's the nominee." 

These are the folks who weren't paying attention during the primaries or who voted for somebody else earlier, like Cruz. They don't pay attention on a daily basis, but when push comes to shove they vote Republican because they always have. There's a lot of these people. 

Well to be fair that's a good part of the party system. How about we take the party off the ballot altogether, agree?

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Hope he got paid in cash.

Just wait for the book. 

 

[Blick]

Racist, stupid, or ignorant...

seems like I offered these three possible options back in September. Now, however, there is a 4th option, which I have encountered a lot lately: 

"I'm voting for Trump because I'm a Republican and he's the nominee." 

These are the folks who weren't paying attention during the primaries or who voted for somebody else earlier, like Cruz. They don't pay attention on a daily basis, but when push comes to shove they vote Republican because they always have. There's a lot of these people. 

Isn't that the same for both parties?  The Bernie supporters are expected to come around and vote for Hilary even though they are miles apart on most issues?

 

[Grace Under Pressure]

I think there's a category of voters that will vote for Trump, then when he loses they will blame Clinton for their problems, and then point to the fact that they voted for Trump who would have solved all of their problems. 

 

[Coeur de Lion]

Hope he got paid in cash.

Heard he got a very generous severance package -- the best, really -- that included steaks, vodka, and airline tickets.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

A 42-year-old operative who'd worked for the Tea Party group Americans for Prosperity, Lewandowski was now the campaign manager. Hicks was told she couldn't work for both the political and corporate branches of the Trump team. She had to choose: Join the campaign or go back to the kids' floor of Trump Tower. Hicks, who hates to disappoint, nonetheless told Lewandowski he'd have to find a new press secretary, which apparently set him off. “He made her cry a bunch of times,” Nunberg said. In Nunberg's telling, Lewandowski said to Hicks, “You made a big ####### mistake; you're ####### dead to me.” Lewandowski declined to either confirm or correct Nunberg's recollection. “I don't recall the specifics of that,” he told me. “I can say definitively that I don't recall the specific incident that you're referring to.”
Hicks reconsidered when Trump told her to stay. As she traveled with him and a tiny band of staffers around the country, things with Lewandowski eventually mended. Meanwhile, Lewandowski was consolidating power. Racist Facebook posts Nunberg had made beginning in 2007 surfaced and prompted his firing. (He trashed everyone from Al Sharpton to Marxist Muslims to Louis Farrakhan.) Nunberg believes it was Hicks and Lewandowski who petitioned Trump for his ouster and drafted a brutal statement that characterized him as a “low-level part-time consultant.”
Nunberg still seemed wounded eight months later, when we met. “Of course she ratf**ked me, which makes me proud,” he told me. Nunberg maintains no feelings of warmth for Lewandowski. “I literally will suck the f**king blood out of his skull by the time I'm done with him,” he said like a screwball gangster. Not long after Nunberg's firing, his mentor, Stone, left. (Stone says he quit, but the campaign claims he was fired.) The circle was getting smaller, and Hicks, the only staffer without a bald spot or a tough-guy lilt, had apparently learned how to hang on.

http://www.gq.com/story/hope-hicks-mystifying-triumph-donald-trump

 

[Captain Cranks]

I think there's a category of voters that will vote for Trump, then when he loses they will blame Clinton for their problems, and then point to the fact that they voted for Trump who would have solved all of their problems. 

This is the worst part about Clinton winning, IMO.  We'll have four more years of the these people complaining that the government is the cause of all their problems.  

 

[massraider]

Hope he got paid in cash.

He received,  free of charge, the complete platinum package,  including all books,  from Trump University. 

 

[3C's]

Never happen they say, Trump is a lock. Okay

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Never happen they say, Trump is a lock. Okay

It would be better if they went and objected at the convention rather than stay home. On the other hand if they are not replaced then that is the same as an abstention or a vote against.

 

[culdeus]

I think you go to the convention and abstain you could be in fear of your life.  I would stay home.

 

[cstu]

Any coincidence that MST3K is produced by "Best Brains"? I think not.

 

[Statorama]

You guys know "Muslim" and "Mexican" aren't races, right?

 

[Coeur de Lion]

Biggest clown show in the entire history of US politics -- and it's not particularly close. I think that there is a real chance that the Republican Party turns to someone else at the convention at this point. What happens from there would be anyone's guess, but it'll surely make for some must see TV. 

 

[Henry Ford]

You guys know "Muslim" and "Mexican" aren't races, right?

You know that a lot of racists use "Mexican" to refer to any brown people who speak Spanish or Portuguese, right?

 

[3C's]

You guys know "Muslim" and "Mexican" aren't races, right?

Question is, does Trump?

 

[shader]

People are voting for him because they are either racist or idiots. Or in many cases, both. HTH.

 

[Joe Summer]

You guys know "Muslim" and "Mexican" aren't races, right?

 

[dfsguy]

You know that a lot of racists use "Mexican" to refer to any brown people who speak Spanish or Portuguese, right?

Speaking from experience? I don't know anyone in real life that actually does that.

 

[joffer]

You guys know "Muslim" and "Mexican" aren't races, right?

 

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

"Politics 101" is not the same thing is "politics as usual."  Trump has been rewarded for rejecting some aspects "politics as usual," which some people understandably embrace.  But what he's doing here is rejecting basic common sense about when to release bad news. Nobody's voting for him because he bungles obvious PR and strategy decisions.




 




 

Trump is releasing good news -- the best, really -- on Monday. That is Politics 101.

I think firing Lewandwoski is good news all the way around. For people who already dislike Trump, they probably realize that Lewandowski is an idiot clown, and firing him probably increases the probability that they'll vote for Trump -- from one in a million to two in a million or something. For Trump's fans, everything that has the word "Trump" in it is good news. The only people who are likely to consider this bad news are Lewandowski's immediately family. That's a pretty small voting bloc -- and they were likely to hear about it even if it were released on Friday instead of Monday, so they don't really figure into that calculus.

 

[dfsguy]

Trump is releasing good news -- the best, really -- on Monday. That is Politics 101.

I think firing Lewandwoski is good news all the way around. For people who already dislike Trump, they probably realize that Lewandowski is an idiot clown, and firing him probably increases the probability that they'll vote for Trump -- from one in a million to two in a million or something. For Trump's fans, everything that has the word "Trump" in it is good news. The only people who are likely to consider this bad news are Lewandowski's immediately family. That's a pretty small voting bloc -- and they were likely to hear about it even if it were released on Friday instead of Monday, so they don't really figure into that calculus.

yeah right now people that dislike Trump have a 2 in a million chance to vote for him. Do you actually read what you type out? This is silly.

 

[Henry Ford]

Speaking from experience? I don't know anyone in real life that actually does that.

https://forums.footballguys.com/forum/topic/743317-you-guys-ever-get-too-drunk-at-the-bar-and-end-up-being-mean-to-strangers/

1. How did you know he was Mexican?

He may not have been, lol. He definitely fills in that check box that asks if you're Hispanic though.

 

[TobiasFunke]

Trump is releasing good news -- the best, really -- on Monday. That is Politics 101.

I think firing Lewandwoski is good news all the way around. For people who already dislike Trump, they probably realize that Lewandowski is an idiot clown, and firing him probably increases the probability that they'll vote for Trump -- from one in a million to two in a million or something. For Trump's fans, everything that has the word "Trump" in it is good news. The only people who are likely to consider this bad news are Lewandowski's immediately family. That's a pretty small voting bloc -- and they were likely to hear about it even if it were released on Friday instead of Monday, so they don't really figure into that calculus.

I disagree- I think it feeds the narrative that he can't run a smooth campaign.  Apparently his kids did it now, and security escorted Lewandowski out of the building like a scene in a movie or something.

Don't get me wrong, I think it's ultimately a good thing for his campaign to get rid of this clown and presumably let Manafort and Ivanka run the show.  But it would have been even better if it had been done without many people noticing, especially since part of his pitch is how his skills at running businesses and managing people will translate outside the "business" world.

 

[BowieMercs]

"Noland, Mary Anne Allfriend. Faced with the prospect of voting for either Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton, Mary Anne Noland of Richmond chose, instead, to pass into the eternal love of God on Sunday May 15, 2016 at the age of 68."

 

[dfsguy]

https://forums.footballguys.com/forum/topic/743317-you-guys-ever-get-too-drunk-at-the-bar-and-end-up-being-mean-to-strangers/

Em isn't a racist, nor does he actually do that IRL, he is a troll looking to get a reaction from you, and apparently he succeeded.

 

[massraider]

Em isn't a racist, nor does he actually do that IRL, he is a troll looking to get a reaction from you, and apparently he succeeded.

He gave you an example of someone doing exactly what you said no one does. 

Was Em doing this because he knew in the future you would claim ignorance of such a practice?

That's some quality trolling. 

 

[Henry Ford]

Em isn't a racist, nor does he actually do that IRL, he is a troll looking to get a reaction from you, and apparently he succeeded.

Okay.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Trump is releasing good news -- the best, really -- on Monday. That is Politics 101.

I think firing Lewandwoski is good news all the way around. For people who already dislike Trump, they probably realize that Lewandowski is an idiot clown, and firing him probably increases the probability that they'll vote for Trump -- from one in a million to two in a million or something. For Trump's fans, everything that has the word "Trump" in it is good news. The only people who are likely to consider this bad news are Lewandowski's immediately family. That's a pretty small voting bloc -- and they were likely to hear about it even if it were released on Friday instead of Monday, so they don't really figure into that calculus.

The Trumpians who defended Lewandowski to the HILT are all gone or hiding under a rock. It was to the battlements for Corey not long ago.

 

[Coeur de Lion]

Trump is releasing good news -- the best, really -- on Monday. That is Politics 101.

I think firing Lewandwoski is good news all the way around. For people who already dislike Trump, they probably realize that Lewandowski is an idiot clown, and firing him probably increases the probability that they'll vote for Trump -- from one in a million to two in a million or something. For Trump's fans, everything that has the word "Trump" in it is good news. The only people who are likely to consider this bad news are Lewandowski's immediately family. That's a pretty small voting bloc -- and they were likely to hear about it even if it were released on Friday instead of Monday, so they don't really figure into that calculus.

Wat? You used to be a pretty thoughtful, rational guy. Now you're trying to spin the firing of his campaign manager less than a month before the convention as a positive? Maybe my snark detector is off -- I certainly hope it is, anyway.