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Official Donald Trump for President thread (3 Viewers)

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Turned on the Trump live stream and heard "We're not going to have that crap anymore"  Who wants to watch boring speakers at the DNC when you can hear that?

 
:lmao:  why bother responding 
I've never seen you post an intelligent thought, meanwhile I'm dropping knowledge left and right.

If you recall, I've been calling Trump for President for months now pal. Why bother responding? Because I have my finger on the pulse unlike most others in here.

 
Are you trying to say that it's OK to put someone who is un-intelligent in charge?

Sorry EM, but your argument is non-sensical. Even dumb people generally want smart people making decisions...that might well be a big part of WHY there's a anti-intellectual push to begin with...it's someone (relatively) smart pulling a fast one on folks who are (relatively) dumb but not COMPLETE idiots, convincgin them that intelligence is not nearly as important as it is. Sorry EM...but intelligence might well be the single most important trait the leader of the free world must have, and when Joe plumber thinks about that, he generally agrees.
I don't think you get what I'm saying or are at least dragging a ridiculous layer of hyperbole all over it.

 
I honestly don't think anyone who is truly of above average intelligence would waste their times insulting strangers over the Internet.

If so, they're clearly sociopathic and nobody should value their opinion anyway.

 
I'll do whatever I want. You gonna pick on strangers again you little sociopath?

Go get banned again, loser.
Sadly, that has been your attitude from the start and the reason why you will never succeed even if you get your degree in Florida.

 
I don't think you get what I'm saying or are at least dragging a ridiculous layer of hyperbole all over it.
I get what you're saying, and while I did drag a little hyperbole over it, you're clearly NOT getting what I am saying. The railing against intellectuals is a HUGE part of Trump's shtick, and it's disturbing.

I can't help but wonder if Trump is just hitting at the perfect time for his "brand". People are sick of political correctness in general, and he's taking complete advantage of that.

 
Sadly, that has been your attitude from the start and the reason why you will never succeed even if you get your degree in Florida.
Yeah, because you know me. You're just another internet tough guy trying to hurt feelings.

Makes me wonder what your own shortcomings are.

:lmao:

 
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I get what you're saying, and while I did drag a little hyperbole over it, you're clearly NOT getting what I am saying. The railing against intellectuals is a HUGE part of Trump's shtick, and it's disturbing.

I can't help but wonder if Trump is just hitting at the perfect time for his "brand". People are sick of political correctness in general, and he's taking complete advantage of that.
Trump was in the perfect place at the perfect time.

 
What's going on in here? A lot of non excellence being posted.
A couple of sociopaths are taking shots at me because their hobbies include being rude on the internet because the rest of their lives lack substance I assume.

 
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I get what you're saying, and while I did drag a little hyperbole over it, you're clearly NOT getting what I am saying. The railing against intellectuals is a HUGE part of Trump's shtick, and it's disturbing.

I can't help but wonder if Trump is just hitting at the perfect time for his "brand". People are sick of political correctness in general, and he's taking complete advantage of that.
I think you're right to a degree but that's not what his appeal to everyone is. What draws me and others I know to Trump is:

1.) He is tough on immigration and we are sick of the millions of tax dollars that go to non-residents. We feel taken advantage of.

2.) He is claiming to take ISIS head-on and take their oil. Bomb the oil, cut off their money supply.

3.) He is going to do his best to bring jobs back from overseas (China, Mexico, Japan).

4.) He frequently attacks what many feel is a failed administration (Barack Obama).

5.) He denounces poor foreign policy like the terrible Iran deal and failure like Hilary Clinton in Benghazi.

I don't think it's so much anti-intellectuals as much as it is nationalism. But I'd be lying if I said it didn't play a role. I think for the most part those on the left disagree with points 1-5 and denounce it is stupidity and racism.

 
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My friend knows someone who's close to Trump--Trump came to the third parties wedding.  3rd told my friend that Donald has no intention of implementing his "crazy" ideas:  Mexico wall, withdrawing from NATO, NAFTA etc.  It's all a ploy to get votes and get elected. 

Take it FWIW.

 
My friend knows someone who's close to Trump--Trump came to the third parties wedding.  3rd told my friend that Donald has no intention of implementing his "crazy" ideas:  Mexico wall, withdrawing from NATO, NAFTA etc.  It's all a ploy to get votes and get elected. 

Take it FWIW.
I'll be the first person signing a petition for impeachment if he backtracks on this wall position.

We gotta build that wall. Otherwise, what good is he for me in there?

 
I'll be the first person signing a petition for impeachment if he backtracks on this wall position.

We gotta build that wall. Otherwise, what good is he for me in there?


He has already backtracked on plenty of it...you talk about the Iran deal...he has already said he wouldn't get rid of it.

And don't give me that BS line that he will renegotiate it.

 
I think you're right to a degree but that's not what his appeal to everyone is. What draws me and others I know to Trump is:

1.) He is tough on immigration and we are sick of the millions of tax dollars that go to non-residents. We feel taken advantage of.

2.) He is claiming to take ISIS head-on and take their oil. Bomb the oil, cut off their money supply.

3.) He is going to do his best to bring jobs back from overseas (China, Mexico, Japan).

4.) He frequently attacks what many feel is a failed administration (Barack Obama).

5.) He denounces poor foreign policy like the terrible Iran deal and failure like Hilary Clinton in Benghazi.

I don't think it's so much anti-intellectuals as much as it is nationalism. But I'd be lying if I said it didn't play a role. I think for the most part those on the left disagree with points 1-5 and denounce it is stupidity and racism.
A key frustration to many though is the fact that he is far from clear on HOW he means to do some of these things, and when he does put something out there it's all too often ludicrous and utterly unworkable (like building a giant wall and making Mexico pay for it).

Many of us strongly disagree with some of the points you've made here though. Calling Obama's administration a failure is a HIGHLY subjective statement (which, big surprise, I strongly disagree with). His foreign policy plans are difficult to take seriously when he's so poorly informed on the current policies (Nuclear triad anyone?). The Iran deal is a tough one, but is nowhere near as simple as is claimed. The technology to build a nuclear weapon is 70 years old now. It's unrealistic to expect that we can keep third world countries from developing the ability forever. A far better approach is to make friends among those who are getting close, and you don't make friends with long term sanctions. The Iranian people are more liberal than their government, and there is a very real opportunity there if approached correctly. (IE: I happen to think the deal a good one....buying a few more years without the capability of building a nuke while also opening some avenues of trade to build a better rapport and obtain some more good will from the Iranian people. Trump and many like him seem to think we could prevent Iran from building a nuke forever...and that's not just a pipe dream, it's a potentially very dangerous one!)

More, some of your points are very generic...they are things EVERY candidate wants to do (bring back jobs from overseas). But simply saying that's what you want doesn't make it happen. Trump seems woefully ill-prepared to work with others to make progress towards these goals.

 
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I'm so emotionally invested in the wall at this point that it would be a disgrace and a fraud if it doesn't happen.
That's interesting. I read a long article the other day about how the ranchers living along the border stated it wouldn't work

 
I'm so emotionally invested in the wall at this point that it would be a disgrace and a fraud if it doesn't happen.
Good grief you are naive, and sorry to say you are a bit clueless. One unintended consequences if we ever do figure a way to keep cheap labor from coming into this country. Here is a link that help inform you about one of those consequences: http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2011/06/georgias-harsh-immigration-law-costs-millions-in-unharvested-crops/240774/

And what of the cost of said wall? Washington Post estimated Trump's wall would cost $42B: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/02/11/trumps-dubious-claim-that-his-border-wall-would-cost-8-billion/ 

This also might be a good time to remind you about how proficient the Mexicans are at building tunnels?  

 
Good grief you are naive, and sorry to say you are a bit clueless. One unintended consequences if we ever do figure a way to keep cheap labor from coming into this country. Here is a link that help inform you about one of those consequences: http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2011/06/georgias-harsh-immigration-law-costs-millions-in-unharvested-crops/240774/

And what of the cost of said wall? Washington Post estimated Trump's wall would cost $42B: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/02/11/trumps-dubious-claim-that-his-border-wall-would-cost-8-billion/ 

This also might be a good time to remind you about how proficient the Mexicans are at building tunnels?  
Yeah, but the amount of Mexicans coming in through tunnels is going to be much less than them just flooding over like water.

The cost of the wall is pennies to what we are going to spend over the next 10 years on immigration.

 
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Good grief you are naive, and sorry to say you are a bit clueless. One unintended consequences if we ever do figure a way to keep cheap labor from coming into this country. Here is a link that help inform you about one of those consequences: http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2011/06/georgias-harsh-immigration-law-costs-millions-in-unharvested-crops/240774/

And what of the cost of said wall? Washington Post estimated Trump's wall would cost $42B: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/02/11/trumps-dubious-claim-that-his-border-wall-would-cost-8-billion/ 

This also might be a good time to remind you about how proficient the Mexicans are at building tunnels?  
As far as that graph, that's his interpretation of the curve. It's speculation.

The market will either adjust or go away completely. Government subsidies would be a possibility if his doomsday scenario plays out. I have no problem using tax money on saving American business, especially if it's in result to a government action.

 
You Trump supporters do understand that everything Trump has said goes against the "core" values of the Republican party, right? If you guys want small government, limited government, protection of Constitutional rights, then Trump is not the one that is going to do that. You do know this, correct? Everything he is campaigning on will increase the governments size greatly and quick. The expansion of government and government overreach is going to be swift, alarming, and something many will want back as soon as it happens (Patriot Act 2.0). And, to top it off, how is this all going to be paid for? Sure, taxes may not be raised but all of this is not going to be funded. "Cut social programs" is not going to fly either as there will be more people out of work and so on.

Some of you are walking down a very dangerous path and either you're not willing to see it or you're not looking three steps ahead of you. All of you are playing Pokemon Go and walking into a highway during rush hour. Good luck.

 
So what are the main concerns if Trump has a good relationship with Putin?

I thought one of the great accomplishments of Obama was mending relationships with foreign countries.

What is the problem if the US and Russia are on good terms? Keep your enemies closer right?

 
So what are the main concerns if Trump has a good relationship with Putin?

I thought one of the great accomplishments of Obama was mending relationships with foreign countries.

What is the problem if the US and Russia are on good terms? Keep your enemies closer right?
I thought the concern with Obama was we abandon our allies. Are we standing with Russia or are we standing with Poland, the Baltics and Eastern Europe? We haven't heard one word of support from Trump for our allies, just excuse making for Putin and equivocating on our commitments.

 
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