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this whole idea that we have the second amendment now to protect against a tyrannical government is noble, but ludicrous.  you're going to use commercially available weapons to fight against a government with access to the world's largest military (and ####### nuclear weapons, by the way)?  it may have been what the founding fathers had in mind when they wrote it, but modern combat weaponry has uh, advanced a bit since the late 1700s.    
It isn't what the Founding Fathers had in mind.  If the 2nd Amendment was intended to make it easier to stage an armed rebellion that levies war on the United States, the Constitution wouldn't have specified that Congress had the power to set the punishment for treason (defined as levying war on the United States). 

 
But, the people who propose the use of lawful, constitutional means to effect amendments to the Constitution don't have any freedoms?

John Wilkes Booth thought Lincoln had abolished his "right" to own slaves.  Lee Harvey Oswald thought JFK was trying to abolish his right to support Castro.  I guess in your book both of them were merely patriots.
Lol, what? 

 
Come on. There are legal ways to fight against politicians that want to change the Constitution. If the will of the people is for the Constitution to change than it can be done and we have to accept that. Rule of law, social contract and all that. We shouldn't be going down some rabbit hole of threatening to engage in terrorism on US citizens and politicians. 

 
I know it's stupid but in the hypothetical Trump gives, fighting for our 2nd Amendment with said guns would be the course of action to take.

He's just trying to fire up his supporters, that's all.
second amendment fans being fired up to "do something" about Hillary appointing judges scares the #### out of me.

 
I usually don't jump on gaffes but this takes the cake. Completely outrageous, irresponsible, dangerous. Especially given the rise of right-wing militia kooks out there.

 
A major party candidate for president just said we should maybe shoot the other major party candidate and Em has you all debating the permanence of the 2nd Amendment. Get off the line, fellas. The 2nd Amendment's got nothing to do with this.

 
We should use gun violence if any politician tried to abolish any amendment in the Bill of Rights.

Those rights protect our freedoms, freedoms which many Patriots died so we can have.
So if I wanted to own a nuclear weapon I should have the right to do so?  What if I am mentally ill like yourself?

 
Dude, he said "Hilary wants to abolish the 2nd Amendment and if she appoints judges there's nothing you to do. Then again maybe there is something you can do, I don't know."

I don't think it's an extreme position to use the threat of guns against those trying to abolish the second amendment.

Way to completely misquote and misrepresent what Trump said.
Wtf

 
Homer: But I have to have a gun. It's in the Constitution.
Lisa: Dad, the 2nd Amendment is just a remnant from revolutionary days. It has no meaning today.
Homer: You couldn't be more wrong Lisa. If I didn't have this gun, the King of England could just walk in here any time he wants and start shoving you around. Do you want that? (Pokes Lisa) Huh? (Shoves her) Do ya!?
 
A major party candidate for president just said we should maybe shoot the other major party candidate and Em has you all debating the permanence of the 2nd Amendment. Get off the line, fellas. The 2nd Amendment's got nothing to do with this.
He never said that, he said something could be done if the 2nd Amendment was abolished.

It has everything to do with the 2nd amendment. It was the first thing Trump said.

 
Trump believes he does a good job of straddling the line between covert and overt racism/bigotry/misogyny and etc. with his rhetoric even though most people see it for what it is. Now he's alluding to taking care of Clinton via the 2nd amendment? What the #### is wrong with this dude?

He probably thought that was a clever way to imply that someone should assassinate his political opposition too. 

 
Which part of the Bill of Rights would you people have to lose before you decided your government had gone too far and Revolution was needed?
Probably the first one. The one you and your candidate would like to trample over while hiding behind it.

 
Trump believes he does a good job of straddling the line between covert and overt racism/bigotry/misogyny and etc. with his rhetoric even though most people see it for what it is. Now he's alluding to taking care of Clinton via the 2nd amendment? What the #### is wrong with this dude?

He probably thought that was a clever way to imply that someone should assassinate his political opposition too. 
No, he's alluding that if Hilary were to abolish the 2nd amendment. Something could be done about it.

Do you not believe in the Bill of Rights?

 
Trump did say he could shoot someone on 5th ave and not lose a single vote. They better check him for weapons before every debate.

 
I asked you before...do you feel there are limits to freedoms protected by the Bill of Rights?
Rationale limits, yes. Everything should be interpreted to modern day standards.

But if anyone wants to abolish any of our rights listed in the Bill of Rights, we have the right to fight to keep those rights.

 
A major party candidate for president just said we should maybe shoot the other major party candidate and Em has you all debating the permanence of the 2nd Amendment. Get off the line, fellas. The 2nd Amendment's got nothing to do with this.




 
Interesting. I actually took it to mean we should shoot the other major party's candidate's nominations.

 
So if she, entirely within the constitution, works to pass legislation legally changing the constitution, you think you have the right to shoot her?
Nobody has a right to shoot anybody. Nobody has a right to take away our rights.

 
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So if she, entirely within the constitution, works to pass legislation legally changing the constitution, you think you have the right to shoot her?
Not to mention it would take 2/3rds vote in both House and Senate.  Even with Trump ruining down ballot elections for the GOP, there wouldn't be close to that kind of support..  It's just stupid anyway you look it.

 
He never said that, he said something could be done if the 2nd Amendment was abolished.

It has everything to do with the 2nd amendment. It was the first thing Trump said.
I know exactly what he said and didn't say.  And you either know it too (which means you're fishing), or you don't (which means you're too ignorant and delusional to engage in conversation on the subject).  Either way, I'm not playing your stupid game.

 
Rationale limits, yes. Everything should be interpreted to modern day standards.

But if anyone wants to abolish any of our rights listed in the Bill of Rights, we have the right to fight to keep those rights.
So, what well regulated militia are you part of?

 
There's nothing wrong with that. The 2nd Amendment is what allows us to protect ourselves from tyranny of big government.

If we lose that right, it will be easier for the government to take away our other rights. So yeah, what's wrong with using gun violence against someone if they truly are trying to take away our right to bear arms?
This is utterly pointless but...

what if our elected officials vote to repeal the 2nd amendment. Kill em all?

 
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