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cubd8 said:
Is he doing any illegal by doing this?

If he is repaying himself (not really sure how any of this works), how is he pulling the wool over the rubes? Are you saying that by paying himself back vs. re-investing into this campaign in the form of advertisement that this would show he is doing everything possible to win?

From that perspective, I would love to see evidence of TV Commercials making a difference in races. I can't tell you the last time I watched a commercial with DVR. Saying that, I'm sure there are other ways to get directly to the voters that he needs to win. Is he waiting until after Labor Day to do this? Does he think large crowds at his rallies are indicative of how the polling will turn out? To have no outreach is very odd.
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"Believe me folks, they're false ads," he recently told supporters in California. "They are so false. Ah, some of them aren't so false. Mostly."
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If he filed an FEC form in which he said he was forgiving his $50 million loan to the campaign, and then raised a bunch of money based upon emailed solicitations that contained any mentio of the possible use for that money, and then instead turned around and used the small donation money to pay back the $50 million - at the very least I have to think that would be grounds for one massive class action suit.  With the knowledge that there is no way on the site to cancel recurring donations (unless that has since been fixed), this all would appear to be one massive swindle.  Shocking, I know.

 
elbowrm said:
If he filed an FEC form in which he said he was forgiving his $50 million loan to the campaign, and then raised a bunch of money based upon emailed solicitations that contained any mentio of the possible use for that money, and then instead turned around and used the small donation money to pay back the $50 million - at the very least I have to think that would be grounds for one massive class action suit.  With the knowledge that there is no way on the site to cancel recurring donations (unless that has since been fixed), this all would appear to be one massive swindle.  Shocking, I know.
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“It’s very possible that I could be the first presidential candidate to run and make money on it.”

 
Clinton still up around 7 points -- so things seem to have settled in right here for the time being.  Still expect it to tighten to 4 or 5, but it hasn't happened yet.

 
cstu said:
“It’s very possible that I could be the first presidential candidate to run and make money on it.”
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I have little doubt that he will profit from this. I also have little doubt that others have in some form as well. Politicians can donate leftover funds to charity, PACs, etc. Wonder how much Trump Foundation will get?

 
Whole thing is worth a read:

Advisers who once hoped a Pygmalion-like transformation would refashion a crudely effective political showman into a plausible American president now increasingly concede that Mr. Trump may be beyond coaching. He has ignored their pleas and counsel as his poll numbers have dropped, boasting to friends about the size of his crowds and maintaining that he can read surveys better than the professionals.

In private, Mr. Trump’s mood is often sullen and erratic, his associates say. He veers from barking at members of his staff to grumbling about how he was better off following his own instincts during the primaries and suggesting he should not have heeded their calls for change.

He broods about his souring relationship with the news media, calling Mr. Manafort several times a day to talk about specific stories. Occasionally, Mr. Trump blows off steam in bursts of boyish exuberance: At the end of a fund-raiser on Long Island last week, he playfully buzzed the crowd twice with his helicopter.

But in interviews with more than 20 Republicans who are close to Mr. Trump or in communication with his campaign, many of whom insisted on anonymity to avoid clashing with him, they described their nominee as exhausted, frustrated and still bewildered by fine points of the political process and why his incendiary approach seems to be sputtering.

He is routinely preoccupied with perceived slights, for example raging to aides after Senator Marco Rubio of Florida, in his re-election announcement, said he would stand up to the next president regardless of party. In a visit to Capitol Hill in early July, Mr. Trump bickered with two Republican senators who had not endorsed him; he needled Representative Peter T. King of New York for having taken donations from him over the years only to criticize him on television now.

And Mr. Trump has begun to acknowledge to associates and even in public that he might lose. In an interview on CNBC on Thursday, he said he was prepared to face defeat.

“I’ll just keep doing the same thing I’m doing right now,” he said. “And at the end, it’s either going to work, or I’m going to, you know, I’m going to have a very, very nice, long vacation.”
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3C's said:
Speaking of the "failing NYT" (as Trump likes to call them), I might buy a digital subscription to thank them for all the work they've done this election cycle. Maybe Donald could actually make something great again, their bottom line.
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Also, Trump calls them "corrupt" or something similar because they used unnamed sources in the article. :lmao: And he's going to blacklist them now too. Sad!

http://money.cnn.com/2016/08/13/media/donald-trump-new-york-times/

 
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wdcrob said:
Clinton still up around 7 points -- so things seem to have settled in right here for the time being.  Still expect it to tighten to 4 or 5, but it hasn't happened yet.
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The overall lead isn't nearly as important as the numbers in the battleground states. The election comes down to a few states and Clinton is beginning to pull ahead in all of them.  With the debate coming up, I can only see the separation getting greater. Trump is going to look like a buffoon up there on stage with her.

 
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Whole thing is worth a read:
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It's hilarious that he is upset that the media has turned on him. As if that wasn't one of the most predictable things to happen. 

McCain and Romney both got lots of positive media coverage in the years before their nominations and were both routinely hailed as moderates, but when each of them officially won the Republican nomination, the media treated them as if they were the next Hitler. 

It was obvious to anyone with a brain that as soon as Trump won the nomination, the kid gloves would come off and the media would go from protecting him to shredding him to pieces. Unfortunately for Trump, he has extra ego in place of a brain and so he was blindsided.

 
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GroveDiesel said:
It's hilarious that he is upset that the media has turned on him. As if that wasn't one of the most predictable things to happen. 

McCain and Romney both got lots of positive media coverage in the years before their nominations, but when each of them officially won the Republican nomination, the media treated them as if they were the next Hitler. 

It was obvious to anyone with a brain that as soon as Trump won the nomination, the kid gloves would come off and the media would go from protecting him to shredding him to pieces.
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It's extra absurd because of all the free tv time and softball treatment  he got in the primary and how he thought he could live off of that in the general.

 
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SaintsInDome2006 said:
It's extra absurd because of all the free tv time and softball treatment  he got in the primary and how he thought he could live off of that in the general.
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Many in the news media think they are King makers instead of journalists.  They are doing a disservice to their industry because they lose the one thing that justifies heir existence.

 
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i'm not a Hillary fan but the whole "Crooked Hillary" slogan sounds like something a second grader would say. The fact that it's the backbone of Trump's campaign is pretty telling and definitely reveals a lot about the demographic he's appealing to.    

 
packersfan said:
i'm not a Hillary fan but the whole "Crooked Hillary" slogan sounds like something a second grader would say. The fact that it's the backbone of Trump's campaign is pretty telling and definitely reveals a lot about the demographic he's appealing to.    
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Yes, it is a defining character of Hillary and a fact that even a second grader can understand.

 
GroveDiesel said:
It's hilarious that he is upset that the media has turned on him. As if that wasn't one of the most predictable things to happen. 

McCain and Romney both got lots of positive media coverage in the years before their nominations and were both routinely hailed as moderates, but when each of them officially won the Republican nomination, the media treated them as if they were the next Hitler. 

It was obvious to anyone with a brain that as soon as Trump won the nomination, the kid gloves would come off and the media would go from protecting him to shredding him to pieces. Unfortunately for Trump, he has extra ego in place of a brain and so he was blindsided.
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Wait, was I living in a different universe during the primaries?

The media was always against him.  Not because of his party affiliation but because of the things he was saying, as is seen by his own party's news network at the time being against him too.  All that free TV time he got was usually them blasting him.  His 2nd grade supporters were never going to let a bunch of facts get in the way of catchy slogans though so it didn't really affect him.

The only difference now is that Fox is actually kind of supporting him somewhat, whereas during the primaries both the liberal AND conservative networks were constantly against him.

 
Rohn Jambo said:
The media blew things out of proportion, but a lot of people are easily manipulated.
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Dude, it's constant. He sounds like a sullen middle schooler every time he opens his mouth or touches a keyboard.

Are all of the establishment Republicans slamming him and distancing themselves just easily manipulated too?

 
FreeBaGeL said:
Wait, was I living in a different universe during the primaries?

The media was always against him.  Not because of his party affiliation but because of the things he was saying, as is seen by his own party's news network at the time being against him too.  All that free TV time he got was usually them blasting him.  His 2nd grade supporters were never going to let a bunch of facts get in the way of catchy slogans though so it didn't really affect him.

The only difference now is that Fox is actually kind of supporting him somewhat, whereas during the primaries both the liberal AND conservative networks were constantly against him.
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Eh I disagree. Mainstream tv news media (mostly) just nodded their head and laughed and treated it like a reality show. CNN and MSNBC had him on often and showed nearly whole rallies, including his veterans "charity" rally which gave him an out from the debate. The serious news pieces about his business, personal histories and his bizarre statements and policy positions they largely did not raise.

Fox has always been split between the pundits and the news. The pundits have 75+% supported him from the beginning. Trump just gets aggravated because the news folks haven't groveled at his feet.

 
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SaintsInDome2006 said:
Eh I disagree. Mainstream tv news media just nodded their head and laughed and treated it like a reality show. CNN and MSNBC had him on often and showed nearly whole rallies, including his veterans "charity" rally which gave him an out from the debate. The serious news pieces about his business, personal histories and his bizarre statements and policy positions they largely did not raise.

Fox has always been split between the pundits and the news. The pundits have 75+% supported him from the beginning. Trump just gets aggravated because the news folks haven't groveled at his feet.
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Yeah if the media was truly against him from the start I don't think he would've gotten this far. He's been saying truly outrageous #### right from the very beginning. That's why I laugh whenever people are outraged by the stuff he's saying now. He's been saying this stuff all along. Republicans are shocked now? Where the hell were you months ago? Same with the media. Where was the outrage then? I think the media treated him with kid gloves early on and that's why it's gotten this far. Now they have to take him more seriously which, unfortunately, has allowed this nonsense to get to a very dangerous stage for the country we live in.   

 
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