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[3C's]

Just enforce the law of the land and I'd be happy


ICE releases 19,723 criminal illegals, 208 convicted of murder, 900 of sex crimes




The U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency in 2015 decided not to deport but release 19,723 criminal illegal immigrants, including 208 convicted of murder, over 900 convicted of sex crimes and 12,307 of drunk driving, according to new government numbers.

Overall, those released into virtually every state and territory of America had a total of 64,197 convictions among them, for an average of 3.25 convictions each, according to an analysis by the Center for Immigration Studies. ICE also said that the group were convicted of 8,234 violent crimes.


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Meanwhile, ICE said that it has also slashed the number of criminals arrested in local communities, according to the Center's Director of Policy Studies, Jessica M. Vaughan. "In 2015, ICE made 119,772 arrests, or just half the number of arrests made in 2013, 232,287," she said in her analysis that also included a map of the releases.

The reason: Under President Obama's immigration policy changes, many criminal immigrants are being ignored even though local police and sheriff have urged ICE to take control of criminals in their jails and deport them.

She said that the slash of arrests is why the number of releases by ICE is down. In 2014, 30,000 criminal illegals were released.

The House Oversight and Government Reform Committee on Thursday is holding a hearing on the issue of the releases. In a preview of the issues in the hearing, the committee said, "Each year, Immigration and Customs Enforcement releases tens of thousands of criminal aliens eligible for deportation. After release, many go on to commit additional crimes. With new restrictions on immigration enforcement through the president's executive actions, only narrow classes of removable aliens are priorities for arrest, questioning, detention, or removal. Therefore, millions of removable aliens will be able to remain in the country."

ICE for the first time explained why the illegals were released, with more than half ordered free by courts and in over 2,100 cases because their home countries didn't want them back.


 
Also from the Washington Examiner





The issue of released criminal illegal immigrants has erupted on the presidential campaign trail and in Congress, especially because several have gone on to commit further crimes, including murder. Republican front runner Donald Trump, for example, refers to the 2015 murder of Kate Steinle by a released criminal undocumented immigrant on a popular San Francisco pier.

It's a typical story, according to Vaughan, who wrote:

"When ICE releases criminal aliens instead of deporting them, the chances are high that the aliens will re-offend. According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, approximately 71 percent of violent offenders, 77 percent of drug offenders, and 82 percent of property offenders will be arrested for a new crime within five years of release from jail or prison. Drunk drivers are especially prone to offend repeatedly. According to an FBI statistic cited by Mothers Against Drunk Driving, the average drunk driver has driven drunk 80 times before ever being arrested."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2016/08/23/trump-just-admitted-his-entire-immigration-posture-is-a-big-scam/

Trump added:


“The first thing we’re gonna do, if and when I win, is we’re gonna get rid of all the bad ones. We have gang members, we have killers, we have a lot of bad people that have to get out of this country…they’re gonna be out of this country so fast your head will spin. We have existing laws that allow you to do that. As far as everybody else, we’re going to go through the process. What people don’t know is that Obama got tremendous numbers of people out of the country. Bush, the same thing. Lots of people were brought out of the country with the existing laws. Well, I’m going to do the same thing.”



2) Trump tacitly admitted that Obama’s enforcement priorities are correct.

 

[The General]

I think everyone is underestimating the number of independents and normally non-political people who are piling on Trump.  

Long time conservatives are piling on him as well. 

 

[Courtjester]

I think that's what I said

I have done my best to limit my posts in this thread  because frankly nobody is interested in discussing issues.  

But Trump's initial comments about "illegal" immigration were:

“They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.”

 And naturally the Left made the jump that Trump hates all Mexicans. 

 So how is deport all violent criminals a huge departure from the above statement? 

 

[urbanhack]

I have done my best to limit my posts in this thread  because frankly nobody is interested in discussing issues.  

But Trump's initial comments about "illegal" immigration were:

“They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.”

 And naturally the Left made the jump that Trump hates all Mexicans. 

 So how is deport all violent criminals a huge departure from the above statement? 

Because maybe the opposite of what he said is actually the truth?   It was a stupid ####### comment.

 

[Courtjester]

Because maybe the opposite of what he said is actually the truth?   It was a stupid ####### comment.

 OK but he's calling for is enforcement of what is the current law. Do you believe the current law is bigoted or wrong? 

If so, then that's fine.  There's nothing wrong with that, it gives us a place to start from. 

 

[BigSteelThrill]

 OK but he's calling for is enforcement of what is the current law. Do you believe the current law is bigoted or wrong? 

If so, then that's fine.  There's nothing wrong with that, it gives us a place to start from. 

We are spending more on border enforcement then we ever have in our history. That's while we were getting out of a financial crash, mind you.

 

[Insomniac]

Doesn't matter if they are a popular winner IMO. Obama crushed it in the first election and struggled.

I have slim hopes that Clinton will be able to navigate things better because she has been around so long and has Bubba.

Abandon that hope. There's no way the GOP will change their strategy of total obstruction. It's worked very well for them except at the Presidential election level.

If anything they hate Hillary Clinton even more than they hate President Obama. They're going to retain control of the House and even if they lose the Senate the filibuster allows them to block anything they care about.

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

Abortions for all!
BOOO!!! BOOO!!
Very well, no abortions for anyone!
BOOO!!! BOO!!!!
Hmmmmmm…..abortions for some….miniature American flags for others!

 

[3C's]

according to an analysis by the Center for Immigration Studies.

Also: https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/individual/john-tanton

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/05/15/inside-the-center-for-immigration-studies-the-immigration-false-fact-think-tank.html

http://www.cato.org/blog/center-immigration-studies-exaggerates-immigrant-welfare-use

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/intelligence-report/2010/fudging-facts-look-cis-studies

http://www.redstate.com/neil_stevens/2016/05/10/center-immigration-studies-publishing-alt-right-racist/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/mark-krikorian-the-provocateur-standing-in-the-way-of-immigration-reform/2013/06/17/dff0bd52-d75e-11e2-a9f2-42ee3912ae0e_story.html

 

[randall146]

Isn't that a giant waste of money?

Theoretically it serves as a deterrent to people coming here to commit crimes without facing consequences. If alien drug dealers didn't face consequences they could be much more brazen and violent than their domestic competitors

 

[randall146]

I have done my best to limit my posts in this thread  because frankly nobody is interested in discussing issues.  

But Trump's initial comments about "illegal" immigration were:

“They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.”

 And naturally the Left made the jump that Trump hates all Mexicans. 

 So how is deport all violent criminals a huge departure from the above statement? 

Because between the Mexican rapist comment and today he talked about deporting all illegals, not just violent criminals. He said he'd deport everyone and then allow good ones back in

 

[squistion]

I have done my best to limit my posts in this thread  because frankly nobody is interested in discussing issues.  

Sounds just like the Hillary thread.

 

[cosjobs]

Also: https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/individual/john-tanton

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/05/15/inside-the-center-for-immigration-studies-the-immigration-false-fact-think-tank.html

http://www.cato.org/blog/center-immigration-studies-exaggerates-immigrant-welfare-use

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/intelligence-report/2010/fudging-facts-look-cis-studies

http://www.redstate.com/neil_stevens/2016/05/10/center-immigration-studies-publishing-alt-right-racist/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/mark-krikorian-the-provocateur-standing-in-the-way-of-immigration-reform/2013/06/17/dff0bd52-d75e-11e2-a9f2-42ee3912ae0e_story.html

more like the center for eugenics and anglo superiority, amirite?

Neat that Trump's first political ad used their research as a source

 

[Courtjester]

Sounds just like the Hillary thread.

Truer words have not been spoken, squis. 

Sad but it is dead on.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

I have done my best to limit my posts in this thread  because frankly nobody is interested in discussing issues.  

But Trump's initial comments about "illegal" immigration were:

“They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.”

 And naturally the Left made the jump that Trump hates all Mexicans. 

 So how is deport all violent criminals a huge departure from the above statement? 

Guys there is no policy or issue discussion here or in the Hillary thread because Trump does not bring serious policies to discuss. Hillary does across the board - you or I or many may or may not disagree with many of them but they are actual policies. On the other side there is either ridiculousness or incoherence or nothing.

That some illegal aliens are criminals is a fact, however that is NOT a policy.

 

[badmojo1006]

Still some discrepancies as to whether Trump donated $100K to a Louisiana Church and whether he donated the truck he was seen unloading

Hope Hicks, a spokeswoman for Trump's presidential campaign, did not respond to questions about this promise.

 

[msommer]

Still some discrepancies as to whether Trump donated $100K to a Louisiana Church and whether he donated the truck he was seen unloading

oopsy

 

[apalmer]

So rather than discuss the information you decide to take a pot shot at the poster to make yourself look??? Better?

You folks need fresh air, fresh water, and some fresh sun rays, that's all I can tell you 

Just say that Republicans stood watch at the door while Sandusky was busy enriching the student body while you're at it. They withhold the secrets of cancer to the general public and rape women and children...no need to sugarcoat your real feelings and intentions, even on a message board.

 

[massraider]

Two things are really starting to bother me about this thread:

Lots of victory laps being taken by the left. I love where we are and have great hopes we avoid a catastrophic presidency, but in my experience, third quarter victory celebrations are regretted fairly often.

There is a distinct lack of class in how the left is interacting with the Trumpers. Back in the 60's, one reason the left lost power was by their cavalier, superior attitude. Even if you are correct, no one like you when you act like a ####. That "they do it" or "do it worse/more" is neither a justification nor an excuse.

Please do not misunderstand, I support and adore the Trump bashing when he says stupid things, I just think we might be a bit more charitable to his supporters.
 

I've thought about this a bit, as I am not here to troll other posters.  Also, I am not a bully.  

It might seem funny that I have thought about this, as I am front and center when it comes to mocking his supporters, as opposed to guys like Tobias and Saints who know significantly more about politics than I ever will, and have much more informed statements than I can. Although I will say I am more likely to mock his supporters in the abstract, as opposed to personal attacks on his supporters in here.  Partly because the Trump supporters here are brighter than the collective Trumpallo IMO, and partly because we won't see most of them when they slink away in a few months, so who cares?

But I have thought about it.  I've thought about the concept that there is nothing happening constructive when I mock his supporters.  I've thought that we'll never get anything done if someone does't extend a hand across the aisle.  I've thought about it more than once.  

And I have dismissed it.  

There is no talking to these people.  There is no reaching across the aisle with these people (who aren't on the other side of the aisle in WAS anyway).  They don't deserve our charity, or our willingness to stand in their shoes, and see things from their side. Not every stance is worthy of thoughtful, polite opposition. There is nothing, not a thing, polite or thoughtful about Trump or his supporters.  Two wrongs doesn't make a right, but here's the news: A lot of the insults hurled at Trumpallos are just observations.  They get upset about a lot of the insults, because they are a bit too on the nose.  I don't get angry when someone calls me a libtard, because I am not actually mentally challenged.  

You are saying take the high road.  I totally get that.  Emapthy is natural. But it's not always pragmatic. Consider two guys in a duel. Pistols at dawn, 20 paces, witnesses, the whole deal. And one guy immediately grabs two chainsaws, and attacks the other guy. At that point, standing on the sideline saying, ''Sir, just because your opponent has decided to abandon his honor is no reason for you to do the same'', isn't realistic.  

They are angry about things?  Well, me too.  I am angry that there are this many stupid people in our country. I am angry that Republicans for the next two national elections, at least, are going to be thinking about how they can reach the Trump voter.  Yeah, you think he's going to be an embarrassing footnote?? That's a dangerous stance. Once this hall of fame narcissist exits the political arena, his fans will remain, the angry white toolbox vote, who just wants to see things smashed, and has no time for nuanced policy discussion.    Republicans will be planning for months how to say enough angry things denouncing political correctness, slamming their opponent in a childish manner, and then doing a massive pivot (what a nice word for what it actually is) for the general. Trump has shown how to get the nomination.  Wait until an actual politician with a brain in his head starts using Trumpisms. That will be a dangerous character. Trump might very well have lowered the level of political discourse in this country for decades. He has lowered the bar so dramatically.

I'm angry that people continue to treat this guy like a real politician, and continue to take his statements at their face value. People continue to overestimate his intelligence, and continue to think he has thought any of this through. He's making it up as he goes along, has been for and against just about everything and people continue to discuss his platform, as if there is any substance there whatsoever. It's absurd, in the truest sense of the meaning. 

I'm angry that anyone recognizing Trump for what he is, and voicing their offended, horrified opinion is so easily labeled as some sort of intellectual condescending elite. You know what, compared to Trump,almost everyone is a god#### intellectual elite.  I'm not kidding (this is a fun video to watch). He's speaking at a 4th grade level, pretty much anyone speaking against him is going to come across as an elitist.  

I'm angry that Trumpallos are voting for Trump as a vote against Hillary. That's where we are with politics in this country, they would rather vote for the dumbest, most dangerous candidate we have ever had (not really debatable), who doesn't even want the damn job. 

The only Trumpallo who I respect because at least he is aware and being honest with himself is the illustrious  @FavreCo, @lod001, @lod01.  He's under no pretense that Trump is a decent candidate, he just wants to have a beer while the whole thing falls apart.  He's Slim Pickens riding the bomb to hell.  

 

[igbomb]

Two things are really starting to bother me about this thread:

Lots of victory laps being taken by the left. I love where we are and have great hopes we avoid a catastrophic presidency, but in my experience, third quarter victory celebrations are regretted fairly often.

There is a distinct lack of class in how the left is interacting with the Trumpers. Back in the 60's, one reason the left lost power was by their cavalier, superior attitude. Even if you are correct, no one like you when you act like a ####. That "they do it" or "do it worse/more" is neither a justification nor an excuse.

I don't think this thread is a great surrogate for the real world. At least not in my interactions. I've tried to be relatively civil in here, but there are no supporters visiting this thread offering anything approaching reasoned arguments for their candidate. The supporters in here are all just screaming untrue platitudes or slinging campaign slogans. Hard to treat people as reasonable adults in that instance.

 

[TobiasFunke]

I have done my best to limit my posts in this thread  because frankly nobody is interested in discussing issues.  

But Trump's initial comments about "illegal" immigration were:

“They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.”

 And naturally the Left made the jump that Trump hates all Mexicans. 

 So how is deport all violent criminals a huge departure from the above statement? 

This isn't true.  Plenty of people have tried to discuss the issues.  We've demanded explanation as to why someone might be inclined to support Trump over and over and over again. The problem is that Trump himself makes it impossible to discuss the issues.  He dramatically shifts his position over and over again on virtually every issue, has no real concrete proposals or ideas to discuss, and turns into a blubbering, virtually incoherent mess any time anyone asks him for details about anything.

I'm happy to talk about any issues you'd like, as soon as you can explain to us where he stands on it.

 

[massraider]

 and turns into a blubbering, virtually incoherent mess any time anyone asks him for details about anything.

Jesus.

Bill O'Reilly, exposing the GOP presidential candidate.  

Is there video of this latest proof of this clown's complete lack of anything resembling a clue?

 

[Sammy3469]

If anyone can figure out Trump's policy on immigration, I'd love to discuss it.  

 

[massraider]

Jesus.

Bill O'Reilly, exposing the GOP presidential candidate.  

Is there video of this latest proof of this clown's complete lack of anything resembling a clue?

Oh, here we are.  Lord.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBrhsv2KWI4&spfreload=10

 

[Lehigh98]

ICE releases 19,723 criminal illegals, 208 convicted of murder, 900 of sex crimes

Is @Arizona Ron aware of this?

 

[massraider]

Oh, here we are.  Lord.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBrhsv2KWI4&spfreload=10

O'Reilly speaks to him like he's 8 years old.  

 

[Sammy3469]

O'Reilly speaks to him like he's 8 years old.  

I had to laugh at some of the clips of the Hannity town hall.  Hannity's trying the best he can to lead Trump to a understandable statement on immigration multiple times and Trump just won't follow.

 

[randall146]

Is @Arizona Ron aware of this?

Aware of? He's had shower sex with 1,376 of them. Jealous!

 

[The General]

Oh, here we are.  Lord.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBrhsv2KWI4&spfreload=10

 donald can stop violence in Chicago because he talked to some guy in Chicago who said he can stop it all in one week by being tough. He literally said that over and over again while O'Reilly tried to hold his hand through the interview. 

How did this guy win. We are a nation of idiots.

 

[renesauz]

Honestly I didn't see that and I kinda liked Quayle - I liked Bush Senior also. I just do not see the viciousness that is directed toward Obama. 

I don't remember even Bush Jr receiving the type of vicious attacks Obama has gotten. And it seems like Hillary has/will get.

It's as if the far right has gotten more and more desperate as the opinions of the country have shifted steadily leftward.

 

[3C's]

Two things are really starting to bother me about this thread:

Lots of victory laps being taken by the left. I love where we are and have great hopes we avoid a catastrophic presidency, but in my experience, third quarter victory celebrations are regretted fairly often.

There is a distinct lack of class in how the left is interacting with the Trumpers. Back in the 60's, one reason the left lost power was by their cavalier, superior attitude. Even if you are correct, no one like you when you act like a ####. That "they do it" or "do it worse/more" is neither a justification nor an excuse.

Interesting timing. These popped up in FB today.

http://www.vox.com/2016/4/21/11451378/smug-american-liberalism

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/nikki-johnsonhuston-esq/the-culture-of-the-smug-w_b_11537306.html

 

[massraider]

 donald can stop violence in Chicago because he talked to some guy in Chicago who said he can stop it all in one week by being tough. He literally said that over and over again while O'Reilly tried to hold his hand through the interview. 

How did this guy win. We are a nation of idiots.

''I spoke to a top guy, he can clean it up in a week''

''Did you ask him how?''

''No''

''Why not?''

''Well, I'm not the mayor of Chicago!''

This ####ing guy.

 

[randall146]

Subtle point from the O'Reilly interview: he keeps saying he talked to a top guy in the Chicago police who could solve the Chicago violence problem in a week. "Didn't ask him how, but he was very tough". Then at the end trump says "he was very tough and smart. I called them and said 'you should hire this guy'". 

If tough secret plan supercop was a top guy in the Chicago police, why would you call them and say they should hire him? Probably because there is no such guy. 

Puzzling!

 

[3C's]

Subtle point from the O'Reilly interview: he keeps saying he talked to a top guy in the Chicago police who could solve the Chicago violence problem in a week. "Didn't ask him how, but he was very tough". Then at the end trump says "he was very tough and smart. I called them and said 'you should hire this guy'". 

If tough secret plan supercop was a top guy in the Chicago police, why would you call them and say they should hire him? Probably because there is no such guy. 

Puzzling!

Or, if this tough smart top chicago police guy knows how to solve it in a week why isn't he doing it?

 

[randall146]

The trump household must be a whirlwind of action with everything happening so fast your heads will spin

 

[The General]

Subtle point from the O'Reilly interview: he keeps saying he talked to a top guy in the Chicago police who could solve the Chicago violence problem in a week. "Didn't ask him how, but he was very tough". Then at the end trump says "he was very tough and smart. I called them and said 'you should hire this guy'". 

If tough secret plan supercop was a top guy in the Chicago police, why would you call them and say they should hire him? Probably because there is no such guy. 

Puzzling!

Yeah. I heard that as well. It was probably some guy in a Trump hat at a rally or just a fantasy in his head that he is some tough guy, bad ### that can fix things by being "tough".

He then proceeds to go on twitter and cry about how the media is so mean.

 

[randall146]

"When I'm president there will be two hits. Me hitting ISIS and ISIS hitting the floor!"

 

[massraider]

Subtle point from the O'Reilly interview: he keeps saying he talked to a top guy in the Chicago police who could solve the Chicago violence problem in a week. "Didn't ask him how, but he was very tough". Then at the end trump says "he was very tough and smart. I called them and said 'you should hire this guy'". 

If tough secret plan supercop was a top guy in the Chicago police, why would you call them and say they should hire him? Probably because there is no such guy. 

Puzzling!

Why wouldn't he say his name?  He never names any of the top people he speaks to.  

I wish he would, I bet they all have 'Barron' in their name somehow.  

He manufactures conversations/people in his mind, no one even disputes this, and his fans want to have serious discussion about issues.  Come on now.  

 

[randall146]

"NATO's budget so fat, when it sits around the house it sits around the house"

 

[timschochet]

"I'll be the cop's biggest cheerleader!"

Well that should keep people from shooting them. After all, terrorists cringe whenever a politician is brave enough to yell "radical Islam!" This is an effective strategy. 

 

[renesauz]

I hope it's a done deal. The whole gracious in defeat in 08 got us the tea party and a crappy healthcare bill. Pretty sure Donald and his family only have so many votes, so how is it not on his supporters? The ones that call me cuck, libtard and I'm supposed to be nice? I try to be well reasoned and entertain the other side of the argument, but there is no coherent argument, just hate.

I've had that from more than a few Conservatives, including one sister that I've barely spoken to in a couple of years. But there are others that can be reasoned with...to a point.

 

[badmojo1006]

"We've discredited this claim months ago," CPD spokesperson Frank Giancamilli said in a statement. "No one in the senior command at CPD has ever met with Donald Trump or a member of his campaign."

 

[massraider]

"We've discredited this claim months ago," CPD spokesperson Frank Giancamilli said in a statement. "No one in the senior command at CPD has ever met with Donald Trump or a member of his campaign."

This freaking guy.  

 

[timschochet]

Roger Stone has some interesting ideas about Huma Abedin: 

https://www.google.com/amp/www.someecards.com/news/politics/roger-stone-alex-jones-trump-surrogate-huma-abedin-genitals/amp?client=safari

 

[MattFancy]

This freaking guy.  

Many people were telling Trump this though. MANY people.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Alzheimers. He has it. 

 

[The General]

Lying Donald.

Makes Hillary look like George Washington

 

[TheMagus]

Oh, here we are.  Lord.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBrhsv2KWI4&spfreload=10

"All I know is this - I went to a top police officer in Chicago who is not the police chief and he, I could see by the way he was dealing with his people, he was a rough tough guy, they respected him greatly. I said, "How do you think you do it?" He said, "Mr. Trump, within one week we could stop much of this horror show that's going on." 

Trump policy: doesn't know how, and he's not the mayor of Chicago, but a rough top cop he talked to said it could be done so huzzah! Be rough tough. 

Who the #### is voting for this guy? It really is appalling.

 

[HellToupee]

Some pruning just went down in here , I smell a rat . A Twitter rat

 

[Coeur de Lion]

I know it makes you sleep well at night thinking that all people who support Trump live in trailers and whatever, but there is an amazing stupidity in a poster who claims a certain group is bigoted by then generalizing every person who supports said candidate. Talk about 

Yeah, well, the bigotry and nativism is literally the only thing that has been consistently articulated by his campaign throughout the entire past year. I am well aware that racism and bigotry extend across all social classes, but at the end of the day, it is a FACT that Trump's base of support is uneducated older white men. There is no substance at all to any of his "policy positions." His economic and foreign policy ideas, at least as far as they've been articulated, have been blasted as dangerous and unrealistic by pretty much every expert on both sides of the isle. I don't care whether you live in a trailer or in a penthouse in Manhattan -- if you think that nuclear proliferation is good and that defaulting on our national debt is an idea worth looking in to, then you're not worthy of respect or the time it would take to educate you on why those are really, really bad ideas. Same applies if you think that immigration is the number one issue facing this country today.