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[scooter] said:
What commercials???

And Hillary has twice as much money as Trump. If he ever gets around to putting a commercial campaign together (i.e., as soon as one of his kids sets up a TV commercial production company so he can funnel your campaign contributions directly to them), Hillary could just buy ad space before and after every one of his commercials.
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Obviously Her commercials are money well spent. She is dropping in every poll. 

As for Trump, I don't know where you live but we have had Trump commercials in my swing state since the DNC. They are the best commercials too, believe me.

I'm guessing most of the posters in this thread live in a blue state bubble, or are heavily medicated on IPAs, dank buds, and/or pharmaceuticals. 

It is okay to admit that you were wrong. You don't have to like Trump, but if you are not aware that he is destroying Her right now while spending a fraction of the money, and fighting a three pronged attack from the left, the media, and the GOPe cucks, then you need to sober up. 

Illary has had quite possibly the worst 2 week stretch of any presidential candidate in history. And she has only been seen in public twice during that stretch. Once to attack a cartoon frog, and once to go unconscious and have to be rag doll dragged from the 9/11 memorial service into her Ambulance Van One.

As the sikhs say:

538!

 
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So now I've got friends saying nuclear war is a viable means of taking out Muslims.  What the actual #### is wrong with people?  It's crazy how the cult mentality has taken hold.  

 
Report: Ivanka Trump wrong about Trump Organization's leave policy

http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/14/politics/ivanka-trump-wrong-family-leave-policy/

Asked about the Huffington Post report on Wednesday, Rosen said in a new statement that "the policies and practices allowing employees to enjoy a healthy work-life balance vary from property to property."

"We take an individualized approach to helping employees manage family and work responsibilities," Rosen said in the statement.
 
A spokeswoman for the Trump Organization declined to explain which Trump Organization employees are not eligible for the eight-week paid parental leave.
 
The Trump campaign did not respond to requests for comment about whether Ivanka Trump mischaracterized the Trump Organization's parental leave policy.
 
Keith Olbermann
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/keith-olbermann-donald-trump_us_57d930fee4b0aa4b722d6e90
 
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The writer of the Newsweek  article said on the radio yesterday that, probably because his name sounds Jewish (he isn't) he's been subject to really ugly anti-Semitic messages and tweets from Trump supporters. I have heard other reporters say similar stuff. The amount of hate that has been unleashed by Trump's candidacy is truly frightening....

 
Bob Magaw said:
Report: Ivanka Trump wrong about Trump Organization's leave policy

http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/14/politics/ivanka-trump-wrong-family-leave-policy/

Asked about the Huffington Post report on Wednesday, Rosen said in a new statement that "the policies and practices allowing employees to enjoy a healthy work-life balance vary from property to property."

"We take an individualized approach to helping employees manage family and work responsibilities," Rosen said in the statement.
 
A spokeswoman for the Trump Organization declined to explain which Trump Organization employees are not eligible for the eight-week paid parental leave.
 
The Trump campaign did not respond to requests for comment about whether Ivanka Trump mischaracterized the Trump Organization's parental leave policy.
 
Keith Olbermann
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/keith-olbermann-donald-trump_us_57d930fee4b0aa4b722d6e90
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"Individually we tell them they are fired if they don't come into work."

 
TobiasFunke said:
I hope this will be the media's focus over the next few weeks. Nate Silver was making a good point over twitter yesterday- Trump has so many scandals, and is so evasive in speaking on them, that the media can't cover them the way it would cover a normal politician's scandal. They have to choose between focusing on a few of them in depth or just throwing up their hands and hoping the public can sort through it.  But I think using a charity that collects donations from other people to further you own interests is something that is easy to understand and report, and should hopefully clue reasonable people in on what we're dealing with.

The work David Fahrentholtd of the Washington Post has been doing on Trump's charity scam is amazing, and people should check it out just as an example of journalism at its finest, if for no other reason.

But if you've only got time for one article, read this Atlantic piece that came out yesterday.  No matter what you think of Trump right now, you'll think less of him when you're done. I hated the guy before and even I was surprised at what an utter POS he is when it comes to charity and his foundation. I challenge any Trump supporter to read that and then defend his actions and character.
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The Post writer has been making the rounds. He was on CNN Tuesday night, and tried to cut through the clutter of excuses about an audit preventing release of Trump's tax records (his surrogate/CNN employee and former campaign manager, who was fired after assaulting a female reporter, was throwing out the de rigueur, stock, party line excuses). He suggested two things:

1) Produce the IRS audit letter. Zero reasons he can't produce one (unless of course he doesn't actually have one).

2) Release previous years tax records no longer under audit. Again, by his own excuse, there should be nothing that prevents this.

Surrogate dissembled/deflected/obfuscated, but there was no lucid, coherent intelligible answer. What could he say?

 
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Dissecting Trump's support (surprised to see, with all the talk about older white men without a degree being his main constituency, to an even larger extent his BASE is comprised of white WOMEN without a degree). Clearly Trump's voters are highly motivated. But Clinton has a much more organized ground game in the battle ground states, so ultimately, the fate of the election likely hinges on how effective her organization is in turning them out. Anyway, I found the below a good visual/graphical breakdown of the polling data.

Donald Trump has won over many working-class white voters. But does he have anyone else?

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/09/dissecting-donald-trumps-support/499739/

Trump Blasts Auto Industry Without Knowing Anything About It

http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidkiley5/2016/09/14/trump-blasts-auto-industry-without-knowing-anything-about-it/#4acd3c455d35

 
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timschochet said:
The writer of the Newsweek  article said on the radio yesterday that, probably because his name sounds Jewish (he isn't) he's been subject to really ugly anti-Semitic messages and tweets from Trump supporters. I have heard other reporters say similar stuff. The amount of hate that has been unleashed by Trump's candidacy is truly frightening....
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Is this really the first you've heard of this?  It's been going on for many months, and it's not a small number of people doing it.

Trump Supporters Flooded Me with Anti-Semitic Death Threats

Surge of Trump-fueled anti-Semitism

Journalist faces barrage of anti-Semitic attacks after profiling Melania Trump

Trump-inspired Anti-Semitism prompts fear, police reports ... and a gun purchase

If this were a small handful of people and an isolated incident, that wouldn't be a problem.  But it's neither. And Trump has an anti-Semite running his campaign, a guy who once told his ex-wife he was worried there were too many Jews at their daughter's school and who one tried to insult anti-Trump conservative Bill Kristol by calling him a "renegade Jew" in a  headline.  Trump picked this man to run his campaign. This stuff ain't coming out of nowhere. Any decent human being who found themselves aligned with these people would make it their #1 priority to distance themselves, but google "Trump condemns anti-Semitic supporters" and tell me what you find. Spoiler alert- silence.

This is one of the reasons I'm so frustrated by our otherwise well-meaning and intelligent posters who are planning to sit out this election or vote third party.  Trump voters are Trump voters- they don't mind this stuff, and in more cases than we realize they like it. We need the people who know better to help us fight it. I'm pleading with them for their help.  Instead they're wasting their time whining about emails on a private server and other crap.

 
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Trump gaining in the polls now is probably the best thing for Clinton. Too many out there who think/thought it was over (complacency). Recent polls should be a wake up call to her supporters.

 
TobiasFunke said:
Is this really the first you've heard of this?  It's been going on for many months, and it's not a small number of people doing it.

Trump Supporters Flooded Me with Anti-Semitic Death Threats

Surge of Trump-fueled anti-Semitism

Journalist faces barrage of anti-Semitic attacks after profiling Melania Trump

Trump-inspired Anti-Semitism prompts fear, police reports ... and a gun purchase

If this were a small handful of people and an isolated incident, that wouldn't be a problem.  But it's neither. And Trump has an anti-Semite running his campaign, a guy who once told his ex-wife he was worried there were too many Jews at their daughter's school and who one tried to insult anti-Trump conservative Bill Kristol by calling him a "renegade Jew" in a  headline.  Trump picked this man to run his campaign. This stuff ain't coming out of nowhere. Any decent human being who found themselves aligned with these people would make it their #1 priority to distance themselves, but google "Trump condemns anti-Semitic supporters" and tell me what you find. Spoiler alert- silence.

This is one of the reasons I'm so frustrated by our otherwise well-meaning and intelligent posters who are planning to sit out this election or vote third party.  Trump voters are Trump voters- they don't mind this stuff, and in more cases than we realize they like it. We need the people who know better to help us fight it. I'm pleading with them for their help.  Instead they're wasting their time whining about emails on a private server and other crap.
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This is just what the Trumpies call "honest talk."

 
 

Donald Trump Wants Peter Thiel On The Supreme Court, Sources Say



The eccentric billionaire endorsed Trump in a speech at the Republican National Convention this summer.

onald Trump has made it clear he will nominate Peter Thiel to the Supreme Court if he wins the presidency, Thiel has told friends, according to a source close to the PayPal co-founder.

Trump “deeply loves Peter Thiel,” and people in the real estate mogul’s inner circle are talking about Thiel as a Supreme Court nominee, a separate source close to Trump told The Huffington Post.

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-peter-thiel-supreme-court_us_57d80d57e4b09d7a687f9b03

 
If Trump just shuts up for another month and a half (more people than not get disgusted when he speaks), doesn't completely suck in the debate, he will probably win Florida and Ohio IMO. :shudder:

 
So this morning we have:

  • Trump attacking the minister from yesterday
  • his son saying they won't release his taxes because people will actually analyze them; and
  • his daughter saying you need to be married to get the leave after giving birth 
This really is the denial of service campaign

 
Well, I have to think that the debates will shine the light on the cockroach Trump is.  If he somehow miraculously comes across as a well informed person, or the "independents" aren't swayed even if he's his typical uninformed, boorish self, then we just have to prepare for four years of having an embarrassing president.  We survived GWB, we can survive Trump.

 
Bob Magaw said:
The racial rhetoric has been described as trickling down and causing conflict and tension in schools, emboldening bullying, etc.

https://www.splcenter.org/20160413/trump-effect-impact-presidential-campaign-our-nations-schools

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/the-trump-effect-is-contaminating-our-kids--and-could-resonate-for-years-to-come/2016/03/07/594a7f46-e47a-11e5-a6f3-21ccdbc5f74e_story.html
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Ties right in with my post from the last page about the appalling number of anti-Semitic Trump supporters and their constant harassment of Jewish journalists with holocaust memes. 

Every person who is contemplating sitting this election out or voting third party needs to be reminded every day that this is the battle they're declining to fight with us because they're worried about someone using a private email server. We're asking for your help. African-Americans are asking for your help. Latinos are asking for your help. It goes without saying that Muslims need your help.  And you're taking a pass.

 
timschochet said:
Nearly half of all Trump supporters believe blacks tend to be more lazy and violence prone than whites: 

https://www.colorlines.com/articles/poll-trump-supporters-more-likely-view-black-people-violent-and-lazy
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Nearly half of Trump's supporters described African Americans as more "violent" than whites. The same proportion described African Americans as more "criminal" than whites, while 40 percent described them as more "lazy" than whites.

In smaller, but still significant, numbers, Clinton backers also viewed blacks more critically than whites with regard to certain personality traits. Nearly one-third of Clinton supporters described blacks as more "violent" and "criminal" than whites, and one-quarter described them as more "lazy" than whites.
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They don't give it but considering Hillary has a lot of minority support I'm guessing the white Hillary supporter opinions get closer to that Trump number than anyone wants to consider.

There is nothing we can do about this. The problem IMO is that Trump legitimizing the 'alt right' fulfills a dream of turning this into normalized discourse, basically white identity politics, which seriously is a nightmare.

 
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I hate poll questions like that.  Evidence shows that black people are more likely to commit violent and criminal acts and the rate of people on welfare is highest with black people.  That doesn't mean they are genetically ingrained with violent, criminal, or lazy tendencies.

 
timschochet said:
Hillary should not be attacking Trump supporters; its a dumb move politically. But we can. 
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Charles Blow (NYTimes, CNN) was one of the more vocal reporters in stating Trump's ostensible overtures to black voters were really directed at white women (see, I'm a nice guy, inclusive and not a racist).

Though not exactly the same METHOD, possibly Clinton had a similar end game in mind - talking across the supposed target, but actually aimed and directed as a wedge to get undecided voters to think about and take a stance on how they self-identify, whether racists, sexists, homophobes, Islamophobes and/or xenophobes)? 

I thought the link immediately below was hilarious (Zebadiah? What Ma? That Hillybilly called us zenophobes, how dare her, I HATE those un-American words. We aren't Zenophobes, are we? BTW, Zebadiah, what is a zenophobe, anyway? :) ):

After Clinton remark, online dictionary searches of 'deplorable' up 50,000%

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/09/13/online-dictionary-searches-deplorable-up/90299092/  

Which reminded me of the fight scene in Mean Streets, where somebody uses the word "mook" (What's a mook? No answer. You can't call me a mook! Fists fly). 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmrQ70gJUJI

 
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TobiasFunke said:
This part of that Atlantic article was news to me and is pretty awful:
 
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This was about him scamming the Palm Beach Police Association by making it seem like he was donating his own money by passing off someone else's donations as his own and then convincing them to hold their gala (and pay thousands for it) on his property.

Here is a series of tweets from Post reporter David Fahrenthold about him doing the same thing to another charity- the Leukemia and Lymphoma Society. They honored him with awards and paid Trump to hold their gala at his property even though he never gave them a dime of his own money.

I'm surprised this isn't front page news and leading all TV coverage of the election.  Hopefully it will be soon. Fahrenthold has done amazing work in exposing this grift.

 
timschochet said:
Nearly half of all Trump supporters believe blacks tend to be more lazy and violence prone than whites: 

https://www.colorlines.com/articles/poll-trump-supporters-more-likely-view-black-people-violent-and-lazy
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And they are uppity too:

Jenna JohnsonVerified account ‏@wpjenna 46m46 minutes ago

Donald Trump calls Flint pastor a "nervous mess" and accuses her of planning to interrupt no matter what he said:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/09/15/trump-calls-flint-pastor-a-nervous-mess-accuses-her-of-planning-to-interrupt-him/
 
TobiasFunke said:
This was about him scamming the Palm Beach Police Association by making it seem like he was donating his own money by passing off someone else's donations as his own and then convincing them to hold their gala (and pay thousands for it) on his property.

Here is a series of tweets from Post reporter David Fahrenthold about him doing the same thing to another charity- the Leukemia and Lymphoma Society. They honored him with awards and paid Trump to hold their gala at his property even though he never gave them a dime of his own money.

I'm surprised this isn't front page news and leading all TV coverage of the election.  Hopefully it will be soon. Fahrenthold has done amazing work in exposing this grift.
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Apparently there's one reporter in America that cares about this sort of thing.  

 
Soootch said:
I'd like to see Hillary run with this and double down on her basket remark. Show these people for who they really are.
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she should avoid these sweeping generalizations. its ok for you to say, or a radio hosts, but not the person running for president. 

that aside, its energizing his base and driving people to vote against her.

 
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