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Tim and trump actually share several personality traits. Both are blowhards that are quick to denounce people that disagree with them. They are also just as quick to turn on a dime and pretend to be  a martyr if someone attacks them and will say the attacks are unfair. 

 
renesauz said:
What you're missing and overlooking is the fact that NPOs that we do in fact NEED operate far more efficiently with public dollars then they ever could with private dollars. Look at the average efficiency of any major charity...if more than 30-40% of their money is spent on the actual charitable work instead of on RAISING MORE MONEY, they are deemed to be efficient! The fact of the matter is that many people simply don't donate, but pretty much anyone can be made to pay taxes. Conservatives are forever telling us they prefer service provided for by non-governmental entities, that those entities are more responsive and efficient. Put together with the facts presented in my first paragraph, it it should naturally follow that taxpayer support of certain NPOs (like planned parenthood) would be an attractive compromise, no?
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This is...dumb.  You are conflicting NPOs with charities.  Many NPOs do charitable work, but not all are charities.  Almost half of all hospitals are NPOs; they are mostly not charities, and they don't fit your model of how to define efficiency.  Many NPO

I'd be interested to know where you came up the "fact" that "if more than 30-40% of their money is spent on the actual charitable work instead of on RAISING MORE MONEY, they are deemed to be efficient."  Perhaps that applies to some NPOs, but that is a horrible bogey for most charities that rely heavily on private donations (not direct government payment or selling of goods).

Charity - Fundraising Efficiency - Charitable Commitment
United Way - 91% - 86%
Salvation Army - 90% - 82%
Feeding America - 99% - 99%
Task Force for Global Health - 100% - 100%
YMCA - 86% - 85%
Goodwill - 97% - 89%
Food for the Poor - 96% - 96%
Direct Relief - 100% - 99%
American Cancer Society - 79% - 74%
http://www.forbes.com/top-charities/

Some of those listed above receive no government support whatsoever; the ones that do receive it primarily in the form of not paying taxes (not a cash payment of some sort), and it accounts for a small portion of their total revenue.

Now you might be referring to NPOs in general.  If whatever ones you are referring to only spend 30-40% of their funding on charitable work, then I can see why the government has to step in and fund them - BECAUSE THEY ARE HORRIBLY INEFFICIENT AND THE ONLY WAY THEY STAY ALIVE IS BY GOVERNMENT FUNDING.  "Hey, look at me!  I am a non for profit organization!  I mostly serve myself and may or may not provide much of a benefit to society.  Give me some money!  What's that, you don't believe in my cause and don't want to give me money?  That's not fair!  The government should make you give me money, because.....because I'm an NPO!  I've got 501(c) status and everything!"

You don't have enough money to donate to charities, so the government should forcibly take your money and give it to charities, so that charities can take care of the people who don't have enough money to donate to charities...  That's asinine.

You donate to charities that you believe do well at serving the common good, but Uncle Sam thinks he knows better (because his lobbyists tell him so), so he's going to take your money, paying all sorts of people along the way, and give it groups that may or may not serve the common good effectively (or at all).  That's extortion.

Just to state my position again - I do not think any NPOs should receive direct monetary donations from the government (I am fine with not paying taxes as long as they maintain their 501(c)(3) status - meaning they cannot be involved in politics).

 
RBM said:
I really hope he wouldn't make something like that up. I mean from his posts he is clearly off upstairs but this would be way beyond that. 

But yeah, if true, that's a huge no no. 
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So on the last page of a thread over there he posts about oral with a posters wife and anal with the same posters mother.  :crazy:

 
RBM said:
I really hope he wouldn't make something like that up. I mean from his posts he is clearly off upstairs but this would be way beyond that. 

But yeah, if true, that's a huge no no, and honestly something I'd expect from his side not ours. 
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Did Donald Trump write this response for you?  

''Umm that's not a good thing, assuming that he's telling the truth, many people are saying that General Malaise in insane, and you know, in general I would say that it just sounds like Chauncey is really passionate about what he believes in, but no, that's not a tremendous thing to say--assuming General Malaise didn't just make it up, as he and the rest of the libtards are known to all the time, believe me.''

 
Tim and trump actually share several personality traits. Both are blowhards that are quick to denounce people that disagree with them. They are also just as quick to turn on a dime and pretend to be a martyr if someone attacks them and will say the attacks are unfair.
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THEY ALSO BOTH WORK IN REAL ESTATE!!!!111111 :shock:

 
massraider said:
Did Donald Trump write this response for you?  

''Umm that's not a good thing, assuming that he's telling the truth, many people are saying that General Malaise in insane, and you know, in general I would say that it just sounds like Chauncey is really passionate about what he believes in, but no, that's not a tremendous thing to say--assuming General Malaise didn't just make it up, as he and the rest of the libtards are known to all the time, believe me.''
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As a father of Ds I can't imagine anyone making a claim like this up. That said he's been a very naughty boy himself but that's not an excuse to escalate and post about kids

 
timschochet said:
Personally I don't think Trump compares to Hitler, but from the beginning I've thought that Trump's supporters compare to Hitler's supporters, and it's probably the scariest aspect of this whole mess. 

I was listening this morning to an interview with a Latino Trump supporter in Nevada- he's getting 30% Latino support in that state- and this guy explained that Trump was good for small businesses and would bring new jobs. When asked about Trump's anti-Latino comments, this guy said, "I don't like that but I don't care. Don't care about anything but jobs." 

What got Hitler into power was the German public wanting jobs and to be proud of Germany again. To get that they were willing to give up on democracy and their Constitution. I think many Trump fans are willing to give up our constitution. 
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Jamelle Bouie nicely summarizes Umberto Eco's list of the qualities necessary to be a proper fascist.


They are: A cult of “action for action’s sake,” where “thinking is a form of emasculation”; an intolerance of “analytical criticism,” where disagreement is condemned; a profound “fear of difference,” where leaders appeal against “intruders”; appeals to individual and social frustration and specifically a “frustrated middle class” suffering from “feelings of political humiliation and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups”; a nationalist identity set against internal and external enemies (an “obsession with a plot”); a feeling of humiliation by the “ostentatious wealth and force of their enemies”; a “popular elitism” where “every citizen belongs to the best people of the world” and underscored by contempt for the weak; and a celebration of aggressive (and often violent) masculinity.
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LOL, look at these losers posting all the time in this thread.  I'm gonna post all the time in this thread, telling them what losers they are.  LOL

 
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/09/29/lawsuit-donald-trump-is-the-illuminati-king.html

We gotta stop this guy!!

Donald Trump is a communist, a member of the New World Order, and may have been tangentially involved in a plot to use wireless brainwave technology to coerce a Disney World alligator into killing a toddler—if the lawsuits against him are to be believed, that is.
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Maybe that's the answer, to get through to the Trumpallos, make up crazy theories/stories that can be hardly believed, if not disproven.  Fight fire with fire.  In fairness, I cannot prove that Trump definitely was NOT tangentially involved in a plot to use wireless brainwave technology to coerce a Disney World alligator into killing a toddler.  

I'm in favor of using mind control chemicals in any tattoo ink used in a tribal tattoo, but that's gonna take too long.  

 
WheelsUp said:
Are Trump supporters ignorant or do they just have bad in their heart?
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Not ignorant.  

What it really is, IMO, is everyone has gotten smarter about disguising their beliefs and hatred.  It's slick, and if you pull back the curtain, they yell that you are oppressing them as they try and push their oppressive agenda.  

But that's all a red herring.  It doesn't matter what stupid reason, bigotry, hatred, ignorance Trumpallos have for voting for him.  It only matters that they are.  Because 'anyone but Hillary' doesn't (or shouldn't) apply here.

 Someone created a test, and created the worst political candidate this country has ever seen.  Maybe it was a joke, a bunch of MIT pranksters.  Wouldn't surprise me.  Whole bunch of people are failing the test.  

What's it take? What does it take for Trump to lose these people's votes? He's an internet troll, a FFA alias come to life.  And millions of people want him to run the most powerul country in the world.  

 
Apple Jack said:
They fall into at least one of the following three categories: racist, idiot, and/or insane.
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i don't agree anymore.  i've met too many that are none of the three.  they are just so blinded by their hatred of anything from the other side it doesn't matter who the Rs run.  I don't think that falls into the "idiot" category.  they're otherwise intelligent people.

 
joffer said:
i don't agree anymore.  i've met too many that are none of the three.  they are just so blinded by their hatred of anything from the other side it doesn't matter who the Rs run.  I don't think that falls into the "idiot" category.  they're otherwise intelligent people.
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Plenty of tone deaf people in Mensa. It's about perspective, not "intelligence."

 
massraider said:
 What's it take? What does it take for Trump to lose these people's votes? He's an internet troll, a FFA alias come to life.  And millions of people want him to run the most powerul country in the world.  
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The majority of the people voting for him in the general will be people that don't want Hillary nominating another know-nothing liberal rubber-stamp justice to the Supreme Court.

If SC Justices were elected, I would likely vote for Hillary.  There is an unending number of issues that the left has just been sitting on, waiting for a rubber-stamp left wing SC to happen. Four years (minimum) of that would just be unfathomable.  Job crippling EPA regulations and pro-union cases, gun-grabs and other anti personal freedom decisions...oy vey!  Granted, Trump's pick will likely be center-left, but at least there's a chance they might turn into an Anthony Kennedy.

I can't be party to having the court shape this nation to reflect the Obama/Clinton radical left wing vision.  If the best I can do is a Center-Left Supreme Court, I guess I'll vote Trump.

 
Statorama said:
The majority of the people voting for him in the general will be people that don't want Hillary nominating another know-nothing liberal rubber-stamp justice to the Supreme Court.

If SC Justices were elected, I would likely vote for Hillary.  There is an unending number of issues that the left has just been sitting on, waiting for a rubber-stamp left wing SC to happen. Four years (minimum) of that would just be unfathomable.  Job crippling EPA regulations and pro-union cases, gun-grabs and other anti personal freedom decisions...oy vey!  Granted, Trump's pick will likely be center-left, but at least there's a chance they might turn into an Anthony Kennedy.

I can't be party to having the court shape this nation to reflect the Obama/Clinton radical left wing vision.  If the best I can do is a Center-Left Supreme Court, I guess I'll vote Trump.
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:no:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/elliot-mincberg/new-trump-supreme-court-l_b_12196556.html

New Trump Supreme Court List Makes Even Clearer The Dangers Of A Trump Court

Much has already been written about the dangers that a Supreme Court, with even one or two Trump-appointed justices, would pose to all our rights and liberties. Trump’s latest list of ten more possible Court nominees makes that even more clear. In making his announcement last Friday, Trump proclaimed he was using the late Justice Scalia as a model for his picks, delighting the far Right. A quick look at these potential nominees’ records shows that they would, in fact, swing the court far to the right, maybe even further than Justice Scalia, on issues like the environment, voting rights, money in politics, consumer rights, gun violence, LGBT and reproductive rights, and more. For the sake of all our rights and liberties, Trump cannot be given the opportunity to nominate Supreme Court justices.
Most of the attention so far has focused on Trump’s naming of Senator Mike Lee as a potential Supreme Court nominee.  Among his many other radical positions, Lee has denounced Supreme Court decisions upholding marriage equality and a woman’s right to choose, and has claimed that Social Security, Medicare, the Affordable Care Act, minimum wage and child labor laws, and many more are unconstitutional. Although Lee has indicated he is satisfied with his current job, at least for now, the prospect of Lee on the Court has excited the far Right.
The lesser-known candidates on Trump’s list are similarly alarming. Florida Supreme Court Justice Charles Canady, who as a member of the House helped lead the fight to impeach President Clinton in the Senate, has been dubbed  one of the Florida Court’s “Scalia-Thomas duo” because of far-right dissents he and one other conservative have written. These included one dissent that would have invalidated state restrictions on soliciting campaign contributions by state judges, and another that would have reversed a decision protecting vulnerable seniors from mandatory arbitration rules by nursing homes.
Another new Trump candidate, Neil Gorsuch of the Tenth Circuit Court of Appeals, recently argued that the Supreme Court’s Chevron decision, under which courts defer to environmental and other agency interpretations of ambiguous laws and which even Justice Scalia had supported, is unconstitutional and should be overruled. Tim Tymkovich, another 10th Circuit judge on Trump’s new list, argued in a dissent that a federal regulation banning the carrying and storing of guns on U.S. Postal Service property should be partially struck down as unconstitutional. [...]
 
Statorama said:
The majority of the people voting for him in the general will be people that don't want Hillary nominating another know-nothing liberal rubber-stamp justice to the Supreme Court.

If SC Justices were elected, I would likely vote for Hillary.  There is an unending number of issues that the left has just been sitting on, waiting for a rubber-stamp left wing SC to happen. Four years (minimum) of that would just be unfathomable.  Job crippling EPA regulations and pro-union cases, gun-grabs and other anti personal freedom decisions...oy vey!  Granted, Trump's pick will likely be center-left, but at least there's a chance they might turn into an Anthony Kennedy.

I can't be party to having the court shape this nation to reflect the Obama/Clinton radical left wing vision.  If the best I can do is a Center-Left Supreme Court, I guess I'll vote Trump.
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Using this reasoning, let me ask:

If Obama had named the most recent Justice, as he clearly should have, and shame on Republicans for trampling on the Constitution, MOST of these voters would not be voting or Trump, is that your belief?

As always:  LOL 'gun-grab'.  Thought this was going to happen when the commie Obama got into office?

 
squistion said:
:no:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/elliot-mincberg/new-trump-supreme-court-l_b_12196556.html

New Trump Supreme Court List Makes Even Clearer The Dangers Of A Trump Court

Much has already been written about the dangers that a Supreme Court, with even one or two Trump-appointed justices, would pose to all our rights and liberties. Trump’s latest list of ten more possible Court nominees makes that even more clear. In making his announcement last Friday, Trump proclaimed he was using the late Justice Scalia as a model for his picks, delighting the far Right. A quick look at these potential nominees’ records shows that they would, in fact, swing the court far to the right, maybe even further than Justice Scalia, on issues like the environment, voting rights, money in politics, consumer rights, gun violence, LGBT and reproductive rights, and more. For the sake of all our rights and liberties, Trump cannot be given the opportunity to nominate Supreme Court justices.
Most of the attention so far has focused on Trump’s naming of Senator Mike Lee as a potential Supreme Court nominee.  Among his many other radical positions, Lee has denounced Supreme Court decisions upholding marriage equality and a woman’s right to choose, and has claimed that Social Security, Medicare, the Affordable Care Act, minimum wage and child labor laws, and many more are unconstitutional. Although Lee has indicated he is satisfied with his current job, at least for now, the prospect of Lee on the Court has excited the far Right.
The lesser-known candidates on Trump’s list are similarly alarming. Florida Supreme Court Justice Charles Canady, who as a member of the House helped lead the fight to impeach President Clinton in the Senate, has been dubbed  one of the Florida Court’s “Scalia-Thomas duo” because of far-right dissents he and one other conservative have written. These included one dissent that would have invalidated state restrictions on soliciting campaign contributions by state judges, and another that would have reversed a decision protecting vulnerable seniors from mandatory arbitration rules by nursing homes.
Another new Trump candidate, Neil Gorsuch of the Tenth Circuit Court of Appeals, recently argued that the Supreme Court’s Chevron decision, under which courts defer to environmental and other agency interpretations of ambiguous laws and which even Justice Scalia had supported, is unconstitutional and should be overruled. Tim Tymkovich, another 10th Circuit judge on Trump’s new list, argued in a dissent that a federal regulation banning the carrying and storing of guns on U.S. Postal Service property should be partially struck down as unconstitutional. [...]
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Seriously, raise your hand if you think Trump could pick these guys out of a lineup.

 
Statorama said:
The majority of the people voting for him in the general will be people that don't want Hillary nominating another know-nothing liberal rubber-stamp justice to the Supreme Court.

If SC Justices were elected, I would likely vote for Hillary.  There is an unending number of issues that the left has just been sitting on, waiting for a rubber-stamp left wing SC to happen. Four years (minimum) of that would just be unfathomable.  Job crippling EPA regulations and pro-union cases, gun-grabs and other anti personal freedom decisions...oy vey!  Granted, Trump's pick will likely be center-left, but at least there's a chance they might turn into an Anthony Kennedy.

I can't be party to having the court shape this nation to reflect the Obama/Clinton radical left wing vision.  If the best I can do is a Center-Left Supreme Court, I guess I'll vote Trump.
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Clinton radically left wing :lol:

 
joffer said:
i don't agree anymore.  i've met too many that are none of the three.  they are just so blinded by their hatred of anything from the other side it doesn't matter who the Rs run.  I don't think that falls into the "idiot" category.  they're otherwise intelligent people.
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There's a lot of greed and/or fear embodied in his support as well. And Trump plays to those sentiments expertly (if not eloquently).

 
massraider said:
I wonder why Trumpallos are so proud of Trump for gaming the system, but don't have the same respect for welfare cheats.

Any rightys got the answer here?  

Are they not stealing enough?  That's it, right?  
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"steal a little & they throw you in jail, steal a lot & they make you king"

 
massraider said:
Using this reasoning, let me ask:

If Obama had named the most recent Justice, as he clearly should have, and shame on Republicans for trampling on the Constitution, MOST of these voters would not be voting or Trump, is that your belief?

As always:  LOL 'gun-grab'.  Thought this was going to happen when the commie Obama got into office?
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Garland is a confirmed anti-gun judge.  As much as President Obama would like to take away the right to have guns, he can't do it without a complicit Supreme Court.  With Garland, he would have had that.

If Obama had actually nominated a Center-Left judge without any anti-gun baggage, they would probably have been nominated and this would be a non-issue in the general election.  I wish he would have nominated someone reasonable so this would be off the table.

 
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