Official Donald Trump for President thread (2 Viewers)

[Ramsay Hunt Experience]

Love it that the trumpkins are on board with pence now.  A religious blowhard was there in the primary and we know how that ended. 

Didn't look like a mildly constipated Roger Sterling, though. 

 

[Koya]

Not sure where you are coming from. They were your words that started this and it appears many seem to agree with my stance.

FWIW this is not at all a personal attack on you nor admonishment for beliefs current past or whatever - merely a comment the the very language you use has contributed to the very problem (Trump) you are #####ing about.

As I said, can't have that both ways. Nothing more than that

 

[Man in the yellow hat]

Not supporting Trump doesn't mean the media leans left. He has zero newspaper endorsements, and there are many right-leaning newspapers.

I would guess sites like Breitbart were created because FOX News showed there was a large market for that type of news. When that became obvious, lots of people looking to make money and/or power took it to extremes.

No. Sites like Breitbart exist because sites like Huffington exist. So, why is one OK and not the other? 

 

[Koya]

Didn't look like a mildly constipated Roger Sterling, though. 

He's Roger Sterling who doesn't believe in extra marital affairs. Not much depth left after that, let's be honest.

PS: including their views on tobacco

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

The great thing is we're getting to the point where it's too late for a Trump rebound. Votes are being cast.

Me and my wife voted today.

 

[HeavyMatt04]

The key is what the ground looks like on November 8th, not today.

A bloody, orange mess that won't stop sniffing. 

 

[Nick Vermeil]

Me and my wife voted today.

Excellent.  How many more times does the DNC have you voting between now and election day?

 

[Clayton Gray]

No. Sites like Breitbart exist because sites like Huffington exist. So, why is one OK and not the other? 

I never said they were. If you get all of your news from the Huffington Post and Mother Jones, then you're likely to be incorrect on many issues as well.

 

[Clayton Gray]

He's Roger Sterling who doesn't believe in extra marital affairs. Not much depth left after that, let's be honest.

PS: including their views on tobacco




 

How much does he not believe in them?

 

[Clayton Gray]

Excellent.  How many more times does the DNC have you voting between now and election day?

Hopefully, if he's in a swing state, every day.

 

[culdeus]

So can we get garland confirmed asap?

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

Excellent.  How many more times does the DNC have you voting between now and election day?

Hopefully enough to make up for all the times Ann Coulter votes

 

[Coeur de Lion]

And why do you think this is Mr. Gray? Could is possibly be because it's been proven time and time again that most mainstream media hates Donald Trump and would love nothing more than to destroy him? Name one mainstream media outlet that has come out in support of Trump? The fact is, the mainstream media leans left. It's been proven time and time again.

In addition, you now have sites like Huffington Post that have long ceased even trying to be impartial. http://www.poynter.org/2016/why-every-huffpost-article-about-donald-trump-calls-him-a-liar/394021/

In addition it's also common knowledge that Facebook has censored right leaning stories news feeds.

These aren't conspiracy theories. If the 'media' is going to go that hard at Trump, with no journalistic integrity, then expect there to be push back from other 'media' outlets. It only makes sense doesn't it?

I guess it depend on which version of the truth you want to believe doesn't it, because I don't see anyone 'reporting' the news at this time. 

Those damn liberal rags like The Wall Street Journal and The National Review obviously have no journalistic integrity because they hate Trump. 

 

[Blick]

Like when he endorsed Ted Cruz for president, right?

Why I was just saying to all my friends the other day, ''Remember how Pence endorsed Ted Cruz?  Wasn't that presidential?  That's the kind of unwavering strngth the people of this country need....''

So you expected him to turn down the Vice Presidency since his guy didn't win?  He knows he's the exact guy this country needs.

 

[CBus Alex]

Any online polls we can look at?

ALL OF THEM

 

[Clayton Gray]

Those damn liberal rags like The Wall Street Journal and The National Review obviously have no journalistic integrity because they hate Trump. 




 

Speaking of, the National Review could not be more crestfallen at the current state of their party. There is a perpetual WTF feeling in every story.

 

[CBus Alex]

All I am saying is this: 

Those that call out Hillary in hyperbolic and vitriolic ways (which you did) are the very root of the problem that produced Trump.

if you are upset that we are at a place where Trump is the GOP nominee (as same can be said for many Liberals who bought into the vilification of Hillary especially Bernard) yet spew the same language that is part of the problem, then you have no right to complain about the result.

"On one hand, I think Clinton is a vile, corrupt, treasonous #### who deserves to be in jail. On the other hand, I have no idea why the GOP nominated the candidate who was most vocal about calling Clinton a vile, corrupt, treasonous #### who deserves to be in jail."

 

[Willie Neslon]

It's not over yet but if he loses and starts talking about a rigged election and crooked Hillary during his concession speech it's going to cause some serious problems on top of the damage his rhetoric has already done. We've got a woman at a Pence rally yesterday talking about revolution if Hillary wins. Trump's followers have believed all of his nonsense so far, if he goes way off the deep end on Nov 8th you're going to have nitwits taking to the streets looking for justice.

 

[Koya]

Excellent.  How many more times does the DNC have you voting between now and election day?

Oh the irony. FWIW, this is another comments that undercuts the legitimacy of our democracy - but people would rather serve their own selfish partisan desires as "true patriots" 

I know for a fact that in my area, it's the GOP that quite literally has organized voter fraud efforts (virtually meaningless for national elections, but for local judges or school boards where a dozen votes can swing things it does).

they have local people at the polling places. They have voter lists.  When their buddies at the polling place show them who voted an hour before polls close, they take a roaming band of cheats to go in and pretend to be those people.  So, if voter ID is needed, certainly in this swing county that is locally controlled by republicans, it's to address the purposeful and worse yet, systematic attempt to vote multiple times.

But again, why let facts get in the way of your political agenda?

 

[cstu]

I also think its wishful thinking that people understand how to split their ticket and vote R and not Trump.  My bet is people just punch straight D or just Clinton. 

My vote for Senator is between a Democrat and a Democrat.

 

[culdeus]

My vote for Senator is between a Democrat and a Democrat.

Strangely, so is the presidential election.

 

[Coeur de Lion]

Speaking of, the National Review could not be more crestfallen at the current state of their party. There is a perpetual WTF feeling in every story.

Yeah -- it's the same feeling that you get at times reading the endorsements of Hillary from the pillars of the conservative newspaper industry. They actually have some integrity, unlike the current sitting batch of GOP elected officials who have just gone along with Trump.

 

[JerseyToughGuys]

No. Sites like Breitbart exist because sites like Huffington exist. So, why is one OK and not the other? 

are you claiming there is a rough equivalency here?

This is a very unscientific study, but ... take a look and compare:

http://www.breitbart.com/

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/

 

[Clayton Gray]

So you expected him to turn down the Vice Presidency since his guy didn't win?  He knows he's the exact guy this country needs.

Someone who has built his political career around morality should not be the running mate of Donald Trump.

 

[Coeur de Lion]

Strangely, so is the presidential election.

Trump isn't a Democrat. He doesn't have consistent and well developed views on enough stuff to really tell exactly WTF he is outside of a white nationalist and authoritarian.

 

[Nick Vermeil]

 

[JerseyToughGuys]

ALL OF THEM

this should get more likes /throwback

 

[Blick]

Someone who has built his political career around morality should not be the running mate of Donald Trump.

Disagree.  Maybe he feels God put him in this position to act as Trump's moral compass.

 

[Statorama]

The GOP wasn't "cornered into" or "forced" to nominate Trump.  Trump isn't the result of policy decisions or rhetoric attributed to the GOP or its candidates.  It was simply a numbers game. 20% of GOP voters liked Trump's soapbox antics and voted for him in the primary.  80% absolutely hated the MFer and thought it was ridiculous that he was even being considered.  The problem that occurred, and one that the GOP absolutely needs to address, is that the 80% of the vote that hated Trump was split between the other 892* Republican Primary candidates.  

By the time people realized Trump might actually win, they started to coalesce around Cruz.  Now people hate Cruz too, but next to Trump he's a preferable candidate.  So why didn't he pull forward?  Because John Freakin Kasich kept hanging around (even when he was mathematically eliminated from getting the nomination) and stealing 10% of the anti-Trump vote from Cruz.  F that guy.  It's pretty obvious he and Trump had some kind of deal, since Kasich dropped out the day after Cruz dropped out.  Hilariously, Kasich and Trump are feuding, so it's kind of obvious Trump went back on whatever deal they had.

Conversely, the Democratic Candidate achieved her nomination with the help of DNC leadership.  GOP leadership didn't nominate (or help nominate) Trump.  He was just an unfortunate combination of GOP leadership being asleep at the wheel, not taking the possibility that Trump could win the nomination seriously until it was too late, and not doing the legwork behind the scenes to get the Carly Fiorina's of the world to get the heck out of the way.

 

[Nick Vermeil]

Oh the irony. FWIW, this is another comments that undercuts the legitimacy of our democracy - but people would rather serve their own selfish partisan desires as "true patriots" 

I know for a fact that in my area, it's the GOP that quite literally has organized voter fraud efforts (virtually meaningless for national elections, but for local judges or school boards where a dozen votes can swing things it does).

they have local people at the polling places. They have voter lists.  When their buddies at the polling place show them who voted an hour before polls close, they take a roaming band of cheats to go in and pretend to be those people.  So, if voter ID is needed, certainly in this swing county that is locally controlled by republicans, it's to address the purposeful and worse yet, systematic attempt to vote multiple times.

But again, why let facts get in the way of your political agenda?

It was sarcasm GB. I live in Brooklyn for crying out loud.  I haven't voted Republican since I voted twice in the same election for Bloomberg.

 

[kface]

are you claiming there is a rough equivalency here?

This is a very unscientific study, but ... take a look and compare:

http://www.breitbart.com/

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/

This is the thing I just have trouble understanding the most this election.  The complete lack of sanity with a lot of the trump supporters.  They are literally standing in a square in the middle of the day screaming it's the middle of the night while everyone tells them it's not yet they keep arguing for it.  

 

[JerseyToughGuys]

This is the thing I just have trouble understanding the most this election.  The complete lack of sanity with a lot of the trump supporters.  They are literally standing in a square in the middle of the day screaming it's the middle of the night while everyone tells them it's not yet they keep arguing for it.  

This is probably the one and only time this will be appropriate but...

THANKS OBAMA!@~!@~!@~@

 

[culdeus]

Trump isn't a Democrat. He doesn't have consistent and well developed views on enough stuff to really tell exactly WTF he is outside of a white nationalist and authoritarian.

Take his personality out of the equation and look at his public policies, discounting his hawkish anti-immigrant agenda, and he's dramatically left of any GOP top ticket guy in history and easily left of Bill Clinton.  But he hates mooslims so he gathered a coalition.

 

[culdeus]

The GOP wasn't "cornered into" or "forced" to nominate Trump.  Trump isn't the result of policy decisions or rhetoric attributed to the GOP or its candidates.  It was simply a numbers game. 20% of GOP voters liked Trump's soapbox antics and voted for him in the primary.  80% absolutely hated the MFer and thought it was ridiculous that he was even being considered.  The problem that occurred, and one that the GOP absolutely needs to address, is that the 80% of the vote that hated Trump was split between the other 892* Republican Primary candidates.  

By the time people realized Trump might actually win, they started to coalesce around Cruz.  Now people hate Cruz too, but next to Trump he's a preferable candidate.  So why didn't he pull forward?  Because John Freakin Kasich kept hanging around (even when he was mathematically eliminated from getting the nomination) and stealing 10% of the anti-Trump vote from Cruz.  F that guy.  It's pretty obvious he and Trump had some kind of deal, since Kasich dropped out the day after Cruz dropped out.  Hilariously, Kasich and Trump are feuding, so it's kind of obvious Trump went back on whatever deal they had.

Conversely, the Democratic Candidate achieved her nomination with the help of DNC leadership.  GOP leadership didn't nominate (or help nominate) Trump.  He was just an unfortunate combination of GOP leadership being asleep at the wheel, not taking the possibility that Trump could win the nomination seriously until it was too late, and not doing the legwork behind the scenes to get the Carly Fiorina's of the world to get the heck out of the way.

I think the word you were looking for is Super Delegates.  GOP should consider finding some.  DNC knew what was coming with Sanders and engineered the election such that an unelectable person couldn't reach the top of the ticket.  

 

[cstu]

The GOP wasn't "cornered into" or "forced" to nominate Trump.  Trump isn't the result of policy decisions or rhetoric attributed to the GOP or its candidates.  It was simply a numbers game. 20% of GOP voters liked Trump's soapbox antics and voted for him in the primary.  80% absolutely hated the MFer and thought it was ridiculous that he was even being considered.  The problem that occurred, and one that the GOP absolutely needs to address, is that the 80% of the vote that hated Trump was split between the other 892* Republican Primary candidates.  

By the time people realized Trump might actually win, they started to coalesce around Cruz.  Now people hate Cruz too, but next to Trump he's a preferable candidate.  So why didn't he pull forward?  Because John Freakin Kasich kept hanging around (even when he was mathematically eliminated from getting the nomination) and stealing 10% of the anti-Trump vote from Cruz.  F that guy.  It's pretty obvious he and Trump had some kind of deal, since Kasich dropped out the day after Cruz dropped out.  Hilariously, Kasich and Trump are feuding, so it's kind of obvious Trump went back on whatever deal they had.

Conversely, the Democratic Candidate achieved her nomination with the help of DNC leadership.  GOP leadership didn't nominate (or help nominate) Trump.  He was just an unfortunate combination of GOP leadership being asleep at the wheel, not taking the possibility that Trump could win the nomination seriously until it was too late, and not doing the legwork behind the scenes to get the Carly Fiorina's of the world to get the heck out of the way.

Kasich was doing what was best for the country, which was keeping Cruz out of the White House.

 

[Statorama]

After the death of Andrew Breitbart, who was a true visionary for the conservative cause, the website that bears his name has become a joke.  HuffPo knows what it is and I kind of respect that.  When I want my news with a direct left slant I prefer Daily Kos, where I do a left wing version of what I do on the right side here.

A fun site with a rightward slant is Ace of Spades (ace.mu.nu).  They have regular features on chess, guns, books, etc.  It's kind of the right wing FFA for me.  Give it a shot.

 

[Coeur de Lion]

Take his personality out of the equation and look at his public policies, discounting his hawkish anti-immigrant agenda, and he's dramatically left of any GOP top ticket guy in history and easily left of Bill Clinton.  But he hates mooslims so he gathered a coalition.

Ehhhh...

He is an odd blend of the loony far-right on the immigration / white nationalism stuff, and the loony far left with the economic protectionism and anti-free trade nonsense. The rest seems a blend of pure pandering (punish women for abortions, guns), and just plain old made up idiocy that neither party would ever be on board with (his entire foreign policy "platform," the authoritarian stuff).

 

[Statorama]

After the death of Andrew Breitbart, who was a true visionary for the conservative cause, the website that bears his name has become a joke.  HuffPo knows what it is and I kind of respect that.  When I want my news with a direct left slant I prefer Daily Kos, where I do a left wing version of what I do on the right side here.

A fun site with a rightward slant is Ace of Spades (ace.mu.nu).  They have regular features on chess, guns, books, etc.  It's kind of the right wing FFA for me.  Give it a shot.

And to that point, if you're more of a liberal and you know of a kind of cool FFA-type left wing site let me know.  

 

[The General]

Strangely, so is the presidential election.

How's that now?

 

[Statorama]

Take his personality out of the equation and look at his public policies, discounting his hawkish anti-immigrant agenda, and he's dramatically left of any GOP top ticket guy in history and easily left of Bill Clinton.  But he hates mooslims so he gathered a coalition.

Culdeus on fire today.  Great stuff dude.

Trumpers gonna Trump

 

[3C's]

Kinda troubling that it took his campaign co-chair to adequately convey that to the American people.  Guess the candidate is unable to articulate a proper explanation.  Wonder what happened to all of the best words his knows?

He's currently consulting the 2 Corinthians.

 

[tipsy mcstagger]

The other guy decided t make a mockery of Trump's campaign so this is the official thread for his supporters.

You mean Trump decided.    We miss you Em...hope you didn't die or anything.

 

[tonydead]

Let's give this thing 2 more days to get the rolling average from the debate included, which Trump appears to have won.  Those claiming the Rasmussen was up yesterday to +7 after the debate don't understand how the survey works.  That +7 came from one day of post tape leakage, Friday night, included in the survey and didn't include the debate at all.  It's already down to +5 with just one night of surveying post debate included.  

The polling numbers continue to show that Trump must have handily won the debate.  Reuters and NBC/SM unchanged despite the locker room leak.  Rasmussen down again with another day added.  

Rasmussen: 

Monday +7 (Pre-Debate)

Tuesday +5 (1 of 3 Days Post-Debate)

Today +4 (2 of 3 Days Post-Debate)

NBC/Wall St Journal:

Monday +11 (Pre-Debate)

Tuesday +9 (Post-Debate)

Reuters:

Wednesday +6 (Pre-Locker Room & Pre-Debate)

Wednesday +7 (Post-Locker Room & Post-Debate)

NBC/SM

Tuesday Last Week +6 (Pre-Locker Room & Pre-Debate)

Tuesday +6 (Post-Locker Room & Post-Debate)

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

From the link:

Separately, BuzzFeed News reported Wednesday that four women in the 1997 Miss Teen USA beauty pageant said Trump walked into their dressing room while they were changing. Some were as young as 15, BuzzFeed reported.

Three spoke anonymously, and one allowed her name to be used. “I remember putting on my dress really quick because I was like, ‘Oh my god, there’s a man in here,'” Mariah Billado, a former Miss Vermont Teen USA, told BuzzFeed.

Trump, she told BuzzFeed News, said “something like ‘Don’t worry, ladies, I’ve seen it all before.'”

Pretty much definition skeevy old guy perv. I give this about 48 hours when the media brings this front and center.

 

[Mile High]

I'm pulling for the White Walkers to win at this point.

 

[cstu]

After the death of Andrew Breitbart, who was a true visionary for the conservative cause, the website that bears his name has become a joke.  HuffPo knows what it is and I kind of respect that.  When I want my news with a direct left slant I prefer Daily Kos, where I do a left wing version of what I do on the right side here.

A fun site with a rightward slant is Ace of Spades (ace.mu.nu).  They have regular features on chess, guns, books, etc.  It's kind of the right wing FFA for me.  Give it a shot.

Nice site:

236 Personally Never Trump, since forever, and a life long republican, except for voting Carter in his first race. I see no difference between the two major candidates. Both are dishonest, corrupt and incompetent for the job they're seeking, although there is a matter of degree. As someone who has been involved in rebuilding Haiti since the quake, I've seen first hand how the Clintons enriched themselves on the backs of people who have absolutely nothing. they will do the same to the American people. But Trump is repugnant on every level...
Posted by: macleod at October 12, 2016 01:07 PM (5NEuS)

253 Posted by: macleod at October 12, 2016 01:07 PM (5NEuS)

#### off, you worm. You are enabling evil. I hate you worse than I hate any leftist.
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at October 12, 2016 01:10 PM (u0lmX)

 

[cstu]

And to that point, if you're more of a liberal and you know of a kind of cool FFA-type left wing site let me know.  

FWIW, I can't stand discussing politics at any other site.

 

[Coeur de Lion]

Pretty much definition skeevy old guy perv. I give this about 48 hours when the media brings this front and center.

You think he's gonna bail? No effing way, IMO.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

The GOP wasn't "cornered into" or "forced" to nominate Trump.  Trump isn't the result of policy decisions or rhetoric attributed to the GOP or its candidates.  It was simply a numbers game. 20% of GOP voters liked Trump's soapbox antics and voted for him in the primary.  80% absolutely hated the MFer and thought it was ridiculous that he was even being considered.  The problem that occurred, and one that the GOP absolutely needs to address, is that the 80% of the vote that hated Trump was split between the other 892* Republican Primary candidates.  

By the time people realized Trump might actually win, they started to coalesce around Cruz.  Now people hate Cruz too, but next to Trump he's a preferable candidate.  So why didn't he pull forward?  Because John Freakin Kasich kept hanging around (even when he was mathematically eliminated from getting the nomination) and stealing 10% of the anti-Trump vote from Cruz.  F that guy.  It's pretty obvious he and Trump had some kind of deal, since Kasich dropped out the day after Cruz dropped out.  Hilariously, Kasich and Trump are feuding, so it's kind of obvious Trump went back on whatever deal they had.

Conversely, the Democratic Candidate achieved her nomination with the help of DNC leadership.  GOP leadership didn't nominate (or help nominate) Trump.  He was just an unfortunate combination of GOP leadership being asleep at the wheel, not taking the possibility that Trump could win the nomination seriously until it was too late, and not doing the legwork behind the scenes to get the Carly Fiorina's of the world to get the heck out of the way.

Worst math ever. 

 

[Clayton Gray]

The polling numbers continue to show that Trump must have handily won the debate.  Reuters and NBC/SM unchanged despite the locker room leak.  Rasmussen down again with another day added.  

Rasmussen: 

Monday +7 (Pre-Debate)

Tuesday +5 (1 of 3 Days Post-Debate)

Today +4 (2 of 3 Days Post-Debate)

NBC/Wall St Journal:

Monday +11 (Pre-Debate)

Tuesday +9 (Post-Debate)

Reuters:

Wednesday +6 (Pre-Locker Room & Pre-Debate)

Wednesday +7 (Post-Locker Room & Post-Debate)

NBC/SM

Tuesday Last Week +6 (Pre-Locker Room & Pre-Debate)

Tuesday +6 (Post-Locker Room & Post-Debate)




 




 

There are too many variables - including variance - in these numbers to determine an isolated event. The only way to see who won a debate is to look at polling on that exact question.