Official Donald Trump for President thread (5 Viewers)

[GROOT]

Yes. And a GOP congress who won't do a damn thing bc they are scared of refugees.

And neighboring muslims especially

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

The Dems are helpless to stop anything. 

The Democrats are not powerless. Every time they/we let something like this slide, it entitles and encourages future corruption. If the Democrats stand up for principle and learn to enunciate that language they can gain a toe hold on a return to political power. If there is a nested egg in this electoral wipe-out it is that. I think people wanted good government when Obama ran in 08 and I think they want it now.

 

[Joe Summer]

But do people really want good government? Seems like the voters would gladly sacrifice good government if it meant A) the illusion of feeling slightly safer, B) fewer immigrants, and C) tough talk about bringing back manufacturing jobs (even if the jobs never actually come).

Or maybe the voters don't care about good government as long as the Democrats aren't running it?

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Anyway, here's a $150,000 donation to the much much smaller Trump Foundation from Ukranian oligarch Victor Pinchuk in 2015.

Fyi on this, and it's not a snipe about Hillary this is more background on what Pinchuk is interested in and who he is. This is from April 2015 btw, I recall this story about him.

The fourth richest man in Ukraine, Pinchuk owns Interpipe Group, a Cyprus-incorporated manufacturer of seamless pipes used in oil and gas sectors.

Newsweek has seen declarations and documents from Ukraine that show a series of shipments from Interpipe to Iran in 2011 and 2012, including railway parts and products commonly used in the oil and gas sectors.

Among a number of high-value invoices for products related to rail or oil and gas, one shipment for $1.8m (1.7m) in May 2012 was for “seamless hot-worked steel pipes for pipelines” and destined for a city near the Caspian Sea.

Both the rail and oil and gas sectors are sanctioned by the US, which specifically prohibits any single invoice to the Iranian petrochemical industry worth more than $1m.

However, US sanctions laws are complex and, in certain areas, ill-defined. Interpipe may qualify for penalties due to the mere presence on American soil of North American Interpipe Inc, its United States subsidiary.

The US authorities can also penalise non-American companies with no base in the US at all which it judges to be working counter to its foreign policy, as happened to Zhuhai Zhenrong, a Chinese oil company, in 2012.

Being denied access to US markets and the US banking system could prove catastrophic to Interpipe, given that accountancy giant Ernst & Young has raised questions over its viability.

...

In November 2014, the now-retired Republican congressman, Steve Stockman, wrote to the US Department of the Treasury, questioning Interpipe’s dealings with Iran.

Newsweek has seen a copy of that letter, in which Stockman refers to a “body of evidence” detailing “exports from Interpipe to Iranian entities” that “may have contravened US sanctions to Iran”. ...

- I don't know how or if this has been affected by the Iran deal.

 

[TobiasFunke]

But do people really want good government? Seems like the voters would gladly sacrifice good government if it meant A) the illusion of feeling slightly safer, B) fewer immigrants, and C) tough talk about bringing back manufacturing jobs (even if the jobs never actually come).

Or maybe the voters don't care about good government as long as the Democrats aren't running it?

Worth remembering once again here that Clinton is going to end up with approximately 2 million more votes than Trump.  He won with strategy (mostly Clinton's bad strategy) and good luck as much as popularity.  If our Mexican-American population resided mostly in swing states rather than mostly in California, Texas, Arizona and New Mexico I'm fairly certain he would have lost.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

But do people really want good government? Seems like the voters would gladly sacrifice good government if it meant A) the illusion of feeling slightly safer, B) fewer immigrants, and C) tough talk about bringing back manufacturing jobs (even if the jobs never actually come).

Or maybe the voters don't care about good government as long as the Democrats aren't running it?

I say that based on the fact that Obama partly ran on reform. I think that message resonated.

 

[Statorama]

Speaking of SQUIRREL!, let's talk about Hamilton some more.

Can we get the cast of Hamilton down to Taco Bell to tell them that we will no longer accept only one sauce per taco through the drive-thru

 

[Grace Under Pressure]

But do people really want good government? Seems like the voters would gladly sacrifice good government if it meant A) the illusion of feeling slightly safer, B) fewer immigrants, and C) tough talk about bringing back manufacturing jobs (even if the jobs never actually come).

Or maybe the voters don't care about good government as long as the Democrats aren't running it?

It seems the electorate voted for all of the above, because a con-man full of promises and vengeance was willing to go there on all of these pipe dreams. 

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

Worth remembering once again here that Clinton is going to end up with approximately 2 million more votes than Trump.  He won with strategy (mostly Clinton's bad strategy) and good luck as much as popularity.  If our Mexican-American population resided mostly in swing states rather than mostly in California, Texas, Arizona and New Mexico I'm fairly certain he would have lost.

If my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle 

 

[moleculo]

Here's the storified version of Simpson's tweets. Its very, very well worth reading about Trump's potential corruption.

I know, of course, that Trump supporters don't care. At all. So ... sigh.

Hey there, Trumpkins who tracked Clinton Foundation donations from foreign entities- particularly objectionable ones- as evidence of conflicts of interest and attempts by foreigners to curry favor.  Remember all that? 

Anyway, here's a $150,000 donation to the much much smaller Trump Foundation from Ukranian oligarch Victor Pinchuk in 2015.

Thoughts?

For me, the biggest knock on Clinton was the perception of quid pro quo corruption surrounding the Clinton Foundation.  That bothered me a lot, and in a normal race should have disqualified her, imo.

Here we have ACTUAL evidence of quid pro quo, and Trump has only been PEOTUS for what...12 days?

Impeachment hearings should start before the man is even sworn in.  This is ridiculous.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Who's The New Philippine Envoy? The Man Building Trump Tower Manila


Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte has had a strained relationship with the U.S. since taking office in June, mainly because of U.S. criticism of his controversial — and often brutal — war on drugs. But he says he's hoping to get along with President-elect Donald Trump.

Toward that end, Duterte appointed real estate magnate Jose E.B. Antonio as a special trade envoy to the U.S. — and Antonio happens to be the man building Trump Tower Manila.

"Donald Trump himself is an icon of real estate," Antonio says on the website for the project. "He has been my reference for a lot of projects; he exudes luxury, he exudes quality, he exudes a standard that most real estate developers should emulate if they want to enter the game of luxury."

...

Wwwwhhheeeee....

 

[Statorama]

 I think people wanted good government when Obama ran in 08 and I think they want it now.

That was the sell, that he would have the most transparent and least corrupt administration of all time.  Oofa

 

[Gr00vus]

 


Wwwwhhheeeee....

We're proper ####ed.

 

[Slapdash]

For me, the biggest knock on Clinton was the perception of quid pro quo corruption surrounding the Clinton Foundation.  That bothered me a lot, and in a normal race should have disqualified her, imo.

Here we have ACTUAL evidence of quid pro quo, and Trump has only been PEOTUS for what...12 days?

Impeachment hearings should start before the man is even sworn in.  This is ridiculous.

Going to wait until I see this in a real new source like Infowars to pass judgement

 

[jonessed]

 


Wwwwhhheeeee....

What's the problem here? He's essentially a lobbyist.  Why wouldn't they hire someone with experience working with Trump?

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

What's the problem here? He's essentially a lobbyist.  Why wouldn't they hire someone with experience working with Trump?

He's not a lobbyist.

He's a business partner.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Did i just hear right?  The ceo of the Dakota pipeline project donated $100,000 to trump campaign and that trump has $500k-$1mm invested in the company??

 

[jonessed]

He's not a lobbyist.

He's a business partner.

Duterte is hiring him as a lobbyist.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Did i just hear right?  The ceo of the Dakota pipeline project donated $100,000 to trump campaign and that trump has $500k-$1mm invested in the company??

Now might be a good time to read up on the Teapot Dome scandal.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Duterte is hiring him as a lobbyist.

To "lobby" his own business partner, Trump.

 

[jonessed]

To "lobby" his own business partner, Trump.

Yes.  Seems pretty smart on their part.

 

[Gr00vus]

Yes.  Seems pretty smart on their part.

Do you see the potential for conflict of interest on the part of any people involved in this relationship?

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Yes.  Seems pretty smart on their part.

Seems pretty corrupt as well.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

One more tidbit on the Argentine call:

Argentine President Mauricio Macri says he spoke with President-elect Donald Trump’s daughter Ivanka during his recent phone call to America’s new leader.

“In the call, I also talked with his daughter,” Macri told The Asashi Shimbun in an interview published Monday. "I have known her since her infant days."

http://thehill.com/homenews/news/307143-argentine-leader-ivanka-joined-my-call-with-trump

- So even if we pretend really hard that Trump is disconnected in some imaginary way from TrumpOrg his imaginary replacement as director was in on the call too.

 

[jonessed]

Do you see the potential for conflict of interest on the part of any people involved in this relationship?

Yes, but that's naturally inherent in lobbying.  They get paid a lot because they have the connections.

There is potential quid pro quo everywhere.

 

[Gr00vus]

Yes, but that's naturally inherent in lobbying.  They get paid a lot because they have the connections.

There is potential quid pro quo everywhere.

Yes, I dislike lobbying in general. But can you admit that this might be a more exaggerated than normal version of conflict of interest?

 

[moleculo]

Yes, but that's naturally inherent in lobbying.  They get paid a lot because they have the connections.

There is potential quid pro quo everywhere.

Unless Trump divorces himself and his immediate family from his businesses, quid pro quo is inevitable.

 

[Wrighteous Ray]

Yes, I dislike lobbying in general. But can you admit that this might be a more exaggerated than normal version of conflict of interest?

No..he wouldn't be able to do that.

 

[Skoo]

Listen, for a businessman like Trump, a little corruption is inevitable.

For a politician, like say Hillary Clinton, it's deserving of a firing squad.

 

[3C's]

Can we get the cast of Hamilton down to Taco Bell to tell them that we will no longer accept only one sauce per taco through the drive-thru

WHAT?! That's insane. Whenever wife goes through drivethru and asks for fire sauce for me they drop about 10 of them in the bag.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Listen, for a businessman like Trump, a little corruption is inevitable.

For a politician, like say Hillary Clinton, it's deserving of a firing squad.

Giuliani: "Mr. President-Elect, sir, we are ready to proceed with investigating the global pay to play scandal like we promised your followers. All systems are go come January."

Trump: "Hmmmm..... naaahhh. On second thought that doesn't sound like a great idea."

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

U.S. President-elect Donald Trump will meet on Tuesday with journalists from The New York Times, a spokeswoman said hours after his posts on Twitter canceling the meeting.

Trump planned to travel to the Times building, spokeswoman Hope Hicks told reporters without elaborating.

The president-elect confirmed in a tweet the meeting was to take place, saying "The meeting with @nytimes is back on at 12:30 today. Look forward to it!"

... In a statement, the Times said, "We were unaware that the meeting was cancelled until we saw the President Elect's tweet this morning.  ...

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/11/22/hes-tweeting-again-trump-cancels-meeting-with-new-york-times.html

 

[Dr Oadi]

What a circle jerk. 

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

What a circle jerk. 

You said it.

 

[Sand]

I saw this video on CNN yesterday. Absolutely heartbreaking. Donald Trump supporters, take part in knowing that these scary refugee terrorist children will continue to victims of war. And, they have no place to go. You supported Trump, and closing our borders to refugees. F U

You're crying at the wrong president, bud.  The mistake was on the current president's plate.  Settlement camps over there were the way to go and this opportunity was not really exploited well.

That and the fact that I think still the major arab powers over there (Iran, Egypt, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia) have taken zero refugees, from my memory.  That's abominable.  Want someone to blame?  Blame them.

 

[GrandpaRox]

What a circle jerk. 

This thread has become their "Cry Room". Kind of funny to watch.

Thank you for voting Donald Trump as our new president.

Making America great again.

Law and Order and Border Security top priorities.

Back to your crying, whining and general slapping each other on the back as you watch your America go away.

 

[Grace Under Pressure]

Just like Brexit in so many ways. From the misleading polls to the regrets. So much of the stuff they promised the Brexiters was impossible, and once Brexit passed the Brexit leaders admitted as much the very next day, and they all went into hiding.

Meanwhile...Brexit slashes U.K. household wealth by $1.5 trillion

Keep in mind the source is money.cnn.com, so it's probably a hoax. 

 

[beavers]

You're crying at the wrong president, bud.  The mistake was on the current president's plate.  Settlement camps over there were the way to go and this opportunity was not really exploited well.

That and the fact that I think still the major arab powers over there (Iran, Egypt, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia) have taken zero refugees, from my memory.  That's abominable.  Want someone to blame?  Blame them.

using the words of your guy... WRONG.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

 

Evan O'Connell ‏@evanoconnell


Russia is "in no way a threat" according to French presidential frontrunner and Putin ally @FrancoisFillon. Insane. Unreal.

- This is the likely matchup for the French presidency, Fillon vs LePen.

Well America, it was a nice run.

 

[GrandpaRox]

Really looking forward to Supreme Court Justice Cruz. 

And especially the day one removal of Obama's Executive Orders.

 

[jonessed]

Yes, I dislike lobbying in general. But can you admit that this might be a more exaggerated than normal version of conflict of interest?

Maybe.  It all depends on how he handles distancing himself from his business empire prior to taking office.

 

[bigbottom]

Really looking forward to Supreme Court Justice Cruz. 

And especially the day one removal of Obama's Executive Orders.

Any indication regarding which ones will be removed day one?

 

[GrandpaRox]

Trump said he would cancel some restrictions on producing energy in the United States on his first day in office, particularly shale oil and "clean coal," which he said would create "many millions of high-paying jobs."

 

[GrandpaRox]

He promised to direct the Labor Department to investigate abuses of visa programs for immigrant workers. The main U.S. visa program for technology workers could face tough scrutiny under Trump and his proposed attorney general, U.S. Senator Jeff Sessions, a longtime critic of the program.

 

[Grace Under Pressure]

This thread has become their "Cry Room". Kind of funny to watch.

Thank you for voting Donald Trump as our new president.

Making America great again.

Law and Order and Border Security top priorities.

Back to your crying, whining and general slapping each other on the back as you watch your America go away.

Actually, I'm waiting for my tax cut, my Wall paid for by Mexico, and my head-spinning greatness, but I'm giving him until 1/20/17 to be fair.

 

[TobiasFunke]

Possibly my favorite Trump victory reaction quote yet:

A former Goldman Sachs executive’s emotions veered from gloom over Clinton’s loss to enthusiasm in the course of one phone call. He described his grief, then said he accepted Trump’s win and perked up about his rising bank stock and more government spending. What Trump does and says might hurt Muslims, immigrants and women, he said, but he and his family will be in good shape.

link

 

[jonessed]

Unless Trump divorces himself and his immediate family from his businesses, quid pro quo is inevitable.

Certainly any family members with official positions in his administration.

 

[GrandpaRox]

Monday evening outlining some of his plans for his first day in office, including formally declaring his intent to withdraw from the Trans-Pacific Partnership, or TPP, trade deal, which he called "a potential disaster for our country."

 

[Sand]

True, then start calling for an independent prosecutor. Using official capacity to hook up a business deal for his own company and profit is straightforward stuff. Look I don't think this will be "the" thing but there will be more such instances because Trump seriously does not see a problem with this, he may even admit to this belief at some point.

Interesting question - what is his official capacity right now?  He has taken no salary from the government coffers ever.  He is still a private citizen until January 20th.  His legal status right now on a private phone call is... what?

Not defending the guy.  He should have already firewalled himself off to any of his real estate dealings.

Hey there, Trumpkins who tracked Clinton Foundation donations from foreign entities- particularly objectionable ones- as evidence of conflicts of interest and attempts by foreigners to curry favor.  Remember all that? 

Anyway, here's a $150,000 donation to the much much smaller Trump Foundation from Ukranian oligarch Victor Pinchuk in 2015.

Thoughts?

What public office did he hold at this point?  (Remembering the Clintons have done nothing but hold public office for the last 3 decades).

 

[IvanKaramazov]

Possibly my favorite Trump victory reaction quote yet:

link

 at a Goldman Sachs employee doing his best to reinforce every negative stereotype of people in the finance industry.