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Sammy for me12 team, ppr
Gave: Jordy, two mid-late 2nd's
Got: Sammy Watkins
Sammy for me12 team, ppr
Gave: Jordy, two mid-late 2nd's
Got: Sammy Watkins
I will take Sammy14 team, ppr:
Gave: Sammy Watkins
Got: Jordan Matthews, 2018 1st (likely mid-late)
I know I'll probably get killed for this one and I know most wouldn't have done this, but I'm pretty down on Sammy and had been trying to deal him for a while, with no one willing to pay for the upside. I'm strong at WR, think Sammy is a bit overhyped and doesn't have the top 5-10 dynasty upside that I keep hearing about, and really just wanted another liquid asset in the first rounder that I can package later to fix another area of my team. Who knows? It may even be higher than I'm projecting now. I also like Matthews still as a talent and think the dynasty community is too down on him - I think he has a chance to produce in Buffalo as the #1 target (or 1b with Zay).
Do you have any hope of competing this year?12 team, ppr
Gave: Jordy, two mid-late 2nd's
Got: Sammy Watkins
Over reactionjust now,
I moved David Johnson (IR) for Kareem Hunt (0.5 PPR)
Davis by a mile12 team .5 ppr
gave: Mike williams, Tarik cohen, buck Allen, 2 mid-late 2nds
got: Corey Davis, Eddie lacy (dropped for Kenyan Drake)
Doh! That's gonna hurt in the morning. I'll take DJ even if he misses this year and next.
I'm with you on this one. I don't think Watkins is anything special or going to be anything special and since he's still hyped as this amazing prospect for some reason I'd love to cash in. That being said I think you could of gotten a better WR than Matthews, who I actually semi-like, but he isn't the WR I'd target along with the 1st. Still like it for you though.14 team, ppr:
Gave: Sammy Watkins
Got: Jordan Matthews, 2018 1st (likely mid-late)
I know I'll probably get killed for this one and I know most wouldn't have done this, but I'm pretty down on Sammy and had been trying to deal him for a while, with no one willing to pay for the upside. I'm strong at WR, think Sammy is a bit overhyped and doesn't have the top 5-10 dynasty upside that I keep hearing about, and really just wanted another liquid asset in the first rounder that I can package later to fix another area of my team. Who knows? It may even be higher than I'm projecting now. I also like Matthews still as a talent and think the dynasty community is too down on him - I think he has a chance to produce in Buffalo as the #1 target (or 1b with Zay).
Kelce side12 Tm PPR - QRRWWWTF
A gave up: Bryant, Dez DAL WR;Clay, Charles BUF TE; Year 2018 Round 2 Draft Pick from A
B gave up: Kizer, DeShone CLE QB;Cohen, Tarik CHI RB;Kelce, Travis KCC TE
C gave up: Johnson, David ARI RB;Golladay, Kenny DET WR;Pryor, Terrelle WAS WR
D gave up: Cutler, Jay MIA QB;Lynch, Marshawn OAK RB;Beckham, Odell NYG WR
All 4 teams in the hunt.
I think it's pretty fair, myself. Maybe Gollady is a bit much, but he doesn't really move the needle much when talking about OBJ and DJ. I'm not counting on his week 1 production holding.DJ side easily
This trade really needs to be evaluated 2 ways, short vs long term. Short term in a championship window, I think I'm ok with giving up DJ+ for that it it nets me the title. If they win, the trade is a win. Long term, the side giving up OBJ for DJ is the clear and overwhelming winnerConcept Coop said:12 Tm PPR - QRRWWWTF
C gave up: Johnson, David ARI RB;Golladay, Kenny DET WR;Pryor, Terrelle WAS WR
D gave up: Cutler, Jay MIA QB;Lynch, Marshawn OAK RB;Beckham, Odell NYG WR
I don't usually root for anyone to fail, but part of me almost wants Hunt to be the next Quentin Griffin. The problem is when trades like this bust that owner leaves the league after the year is over. Last year we had a guy in one of my leagues trade Dez and his 2017 1st for Diggs and Bradford after his 1st game against Green Bay. He end up with the 4th overall pick and left the league.just now,
I moved David Johnson (IR) for Kareem Hunt (0.5 PPR)
Pretty even in value, but give me the Kelce side pretty easily. Not a big believer in Dez as wr1Concept Coop said:12 Tm PPR - QRRWWWTF
A gave up: Bryant, Dez DAL WR;Clay, Charles BUF TE; Year 2018 Round 2 Draft Pick from A
B gave up: Kizer, DeShone CLE QB;Cohen, Tarik CHI RB;Kelce, Travis KCC TE
C gave up: Johnson, David ARI RB;Golladay, Kenny DET WR;Pryor, Terrelle WAS WR
D gave up: Cutler, Jay MIA QB;Lynch, Marshawn OAK RB;Beckham, Odell NYG WR
All 4 teams in the hunt.
DezConcept Coop said:12 Tm PPR - QRRWWWTF
A gave up: Bryant, Dez DAL WR;Clay, Charles BUF TE; Year 2018 Round 2 Draft Pick from A
B gave up: Kizer, DeShone CLE QB;Cohen, Tarik CHI RB;Kelce, Travis KCC TE
C gave up: Johnson, David ARI RB;Golladay, Kenny DET WR;Pryor, Terrelle WAS WR
D gave up: Cutler, Jay MIA QB;Lynch, Marshawn OAK RB;Beckham, Odell NYG WR
All 4 teams in the hunt.
Oof. I think that's really bad for you.just now,
I moved David Johnson (IR) for Kareem Hunt (0.5 PPR)
Huntjust now,
I moved David Johnson (IR) for Kareem Hunt (0.5 PPR)
Sammy.12 team, ppr
Gave: Jordy, two mid-late 2nd's
Got: Sammy Watkins
Not enough for Sammy.14 team, ppr:
Gave: Sammy Watkins
Got: Jordan Matthews, 2018 1st (likely mid-late)
I know I'll probably get killed for this one and I know most wouldn't have done this, but I'm pretty down on Sammy and had been trying to deal him for a while, with no one willing to pay for the upside. I'm strong at WR, think Sammy is a bit overhyped and doesn't have the top 5-10 dynasty upside that I keep hearing about, and really just wanted another liquid asset in the first rounder that I can package later to fix another area of my team. Who knows? It may even be higher than I'm projecting now. I also like Matthews still as a talent and think the dynasty community is too down on him - I think he has a chance to produce in Buffalo as the #1 target (or 1b with Zay).
I hear you and it's easy to say but what are people giving at this point? In my leagues he's simply not valued as high as his "market value" seems to be in articles, podcasts etc. It's league dependent of course but I think it's very hard to get 2 firsts value for him.Not enough for Sammy.
Interesting trade. Corey Davis looked legit as hell, but so did Cohen.12 team .5 ppr
gave: Mike williams, Tarik cohen, buck Allen, 2 mid-late 2nds
got: Corey Davis, Eddie lacy (dropped for Kenyan Drake)
I don't know his price. I own him one place and just think it's a bad time to move him so I don't check. He is new to the offense and it might take some time, I'd rather hold him then sale low. Now if you think this is his new reality that is your call and it's a fair price, I just think he's going to see better days.I hear you and it's easy to say but what are people giving at this point? In my leagues he's simply not valued as high as his "market value" seems to be in articles, podcasts etc. It's league dependent of course but I think it's very hard to get 2 firsts value for him.
I will take the pick16 team, ppr. Cohen was traded for a 2018 1st. Mid pick, prolly in the 1.08-1.10 range.
So, Bryant for free.....sweet.14 team..no ppr..sstandard scoring
Gave: JReed
Got: MBryant, Eifert, 2018 2nd Round - probably #23-28
This is awful14 team with 0.5 PPR for RB and 1 PPR for WR:
Team A received: C. Hyde/D. Parker
Team B received: Fournette/Smallwood
That's about what it would take to get Cohen from me. Maybe it's a complete overreaction to one game but he has the potential to be great and you kick yourself for selling for less.16 team, ppr. Cohen was traded for a 2018 1st. Mid pick, prolly in the 1.08-1.10 range.
Lucky you....someone offered me a 4th for him in another league the other day and thought I was mad when I said it was doubtful I'd give him up for a 2nd!That's about what it would take to get Cohen from me. Maybe it's a complete overreaction to one game but he has the potential to be great and you kick yourself for selling for less.
I was offered a mid 2nd, going to reject. I'm considering offering him for a good WR.
I like Parker, but this is really light for Fournette. Needs to have another early to mid 2018 1st rookie or player equal to that to even it out.14 team with 0.5 PPR for RB and 1 PPR for WR:
Team A received: C. Hyde/D. Parker
Team B received: Fournette/Smallwood
I don't know if fournette is that much better than Hyde. (Parker plus an early 1st better) but I would take fournette in this deal. Maybe add another wr2 type or something at most.I like Parker, but this is really light for Fournette. Needs to have another early to mid 2018 1st rookie or player equal to that to even it out.
Hyde's next 1,000 season will be his first. His next healthy 16 game season will be his first. I wouldn't be surprised to see Fournette score as many TDs this season as Hyde has in his career, to this point. Hyde will be 27 in a few days. I'm with MSU on this one. Bad trade.I don't know if fournette is that much better than Hyde. (Parker plus an early 1st better) but I would take fournette in this deal. Maybe add another wr2 type or something at most.
I had this pretty even.I don't know if fournette is that much better than Hyde. (Parker plus an early 1st better) but I would take fournette in this deal. Maybe add another wr2 type or something at most.
I'm not arguing whether Hyde equals fournette. I might not be as big on LF as others (and I like Hyde more than others here) but objectively he's obviously worth more. I'm just saying Parker makes up most of the difference, a mid 1st added to that side would be an overpay. I'm not putting much value on smallwood, but that might be a mistake.Hyde's next 1,000 season will be his first. His next healthy 16 game season will be his first. I wouldn't be surprised to see Fournette score as many TDs this season as Hyde has in his career, to this point. Hyde will be 27 in a few days. I'm with MSU on this one. Bad trade.
I believe he is.I don't know if fournette is that much better than Hyde. (Parker plus an early 1st better) but I would take fournette in this deal. Maybe add another wr2 type or something at most.
Yeah--maybe we just see Fournette's value differently. I've got him in the dynasty RB4-5 range.I'm not arguing whether Hyde equals fournette. I might not be as big on LF as others (and I like Hyde more than others here) but objectively he's obviously worth more. I'm just saying Parker makes up most of the difference, a mid 1st added to that side would be an overpay. I'm not putting much value on smallwood, but that might be a mistake.
You're right that we don't. he's top 10 but that's as high as I can go, at least until the jags improve.Yeah--maybe we just see Fournette's value differently. I've got him in the dynasty RB4-5 range.
I have a deep backfield although losing D. Johnson hurt but am still sufficient to be a contender, I may be regretting this trade. I still got Bosa and a 3rd for a buck but Carson looks legit.Traded Chris Carson for Joey Bosa and a 2018 3rd rd. pick which should be an early 3rd.
I guess I'm higher on Parker and lower on Fournette than most because that trade looks fair to meThis is awful